Re: Frameworks mailing list

2011-11-22 Thread Aleix Pol
On 11/20/2011 09:57 PM, Albert Astals Cid wrote: A Dijous, 17 de novembre de 2011, Aaron J. Seigo vàreu escriure: On Wednesday, November 16, 2011 09:48:15 Thomas Friedrichsmeier wrote: On Wednesday 16 November 2011, Albert Astals Cid wrote: In case someone is interested since it has never

Re: Frameworks mailing list

2011-11-22 Thread Alex Merry
On 20/11/11 20:57, Albert Astals Cid wrote: This sounds like a If you are going to disagree we don't want you in mantra, which is kind of worrying. I think it's more of a if you're going to keep returning to decisions that have already been made, we don't want you in. I'm not sure creating

Re: Frameworks mailing list

2011-11-22 Thread Alexander Neundorf
On Tuesday 22 November 2011, Alex Merry wrote: On 20/11/11 20:57, Albert Astals Cid wrote: This sounds like a If you are going to disagree we don't want you in mantra, which is kind of worrying. I think it's more of a if you're going to keep returning to decisions that have already been

Re: Frameworks mailing list

2011-11-22 Thread Jeremy Whiting
On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 9:28 AM, Alexander Neundorf neund...@kde.org wrote: On Tuesday 22 November 2011, Alex Merry wrote: On 20/11/11 20:57, Albert Astals Cid wrote: This sounds like a If you are going to disagree we don't want you in mantra, which is kind of worrying. I think it's more

Re: Frameworks mailing list

2011-11-22 Thread Thomas Zander
On Sunday 20 November 2011 12.49.46 Thomas Friedrichsmeier wrote: so, if we're very honest with the situation, what some people are actually asking for is their feature to be released sooner, freeze and devel plans non- withstanding. [] we already have a consensus position, we already have

Re: Frameworks mailing list

2011-11-22 Thread Dario Freddi
Hello, 2011/11/16 Albert Astals Cid aa...@kde.org: In case someone is interested since it has never mentioned in this list, there is a frameworks mailing list at kde-frameworks-devel https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-frameworks-devel I won't comment on having a separate list or

Re: Frameworks mailing list

2011-11-20 Thread Thomas Friedrichsmeier
Hi, I'll start with the bottom of your mail, and only add some clarifications after that. On Saturday 19 November 2011, Aaron J. Seigo wrote: so .. to summarize: * k-c-d needs more active guidance, and that guidance needs the support of core members of the community * decisions need to

Re: Re: Frameworks mailing list

2011-11-20 Thread Albert Astals Cid
A Dijous, 17 de novembre de 2011, Aaron J. Seigo vàreu escriure: On Wednesday, November 16, 2011 09:48:15 Thomas Friedrichsmeier wrote: On Wednesday 16 November 2011, Albert Astals Cid wrote: In case someone is interested since it has never mentioned in this list, there is a frameworks

Re: Frameworks mailing list

2011-11-19 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On Thursday, November 17, 2011 16:21:55 Steven Sroka wrote: True, but then shouldnn't those interested in reviewboard patches go read what's on the reviewboard? the point of having them CC'd here is so that discussion of patches are visible to everyone involved in kdelibs development. with the

Re: Frameworks mailing list

2011-11-19 Thread Alexander Neundorf
On Saturday 19 November 2011, Aaron J. Seigo wrote: On Thursday, November 17, 2011 16:21:55 Steven Sroka wrote: True, but then shouldnn't those interested in reviewboard patches go read what's on the reviewboard? the point of having them CC'd here is so that discussion of patches are

Re: Frameworks mailing list

2011-11-19 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On Thursday, November 17, 2011 18:17:30 Alexander Neundorf wrote: If the signal to noise ratio here is considered too low, then having the KF5 discussions here * would have increased the signal, and thereby increased the SNR this assumes that the tendency to noise on this list would not

Re: Frameworks mailing list

2011-11-19 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On Saturday, November 19, 2011 12:22:33 Alexander Neundorf wrote: How about doing something similar for the frameworks stuff ? Use k-c-d, but prefix the subject with KF5 or something. that does not prevent people from derailing the discussions by sending off- topic emails. noise is,

Re: Frameworks mailing list

2011-11-19 Thread Thomas Friedrichsmeier
Hi, I don't want to play the blame-game. But I'm really worried about this tendency to take essential discussions to side-channels. So I'm sorry to continue on one of those another lengthy meta discussions. On Saturday 19 November 2011, Aaron J. Seigo wrote: On Thursday, November 17, 2011

Re: Frameworks mailing list

2011-11-19 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On Saturday, November 19, 2011 21:03:50 Thomas Friedrichsmeier wrote: I don't want to play the blame-game. But I'm really worried about this tendency to take essential discussions to side-channels. So I'm sorry to it worries me, too. we need to realize that it was our behaviour here on k-c-d

Re: Frameworks mailing list

2011-11-17 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On Wednesday, November 16, 2011 09:48:15 Thomas Friedrichsmeier wrote: On Wednesday 16 November 2011, Albert Astals Cid wrote: In case someone is interested since it has never mentioned in this list, there is a frameworks mailing list at kde-frameworks-devel

Re: Frameworks mailing list

2011-11-17 Thread Alexander Neundorf
On Thursday 17 November 2011, Aaron J. Seigo wrote: On Wednesday, November 16, 2011 09:48:15 Thomas Friedrichsmeier wrote: On Wednesday 16 November 2011, Albert Astals Cid wrote: In case someone is interested since it has never mentioned in this list, there is a frameworks mailing list at

Re: Frameworks mailing list

2011-11-17 Thread Andras Mantia
On Thursday, November 17, 2011 18:17:30 Alexander Neundorf wrote: i was not sure i agreed with that approach, but i have to say that the last few threads on this topic on k-c-d have supported their point :( I would draw exactly the opposite conclusion. If the signal to noise ratio here

Re: Frameworks mailing list

2011-11-17 Thread Steven Sroka
2011/11/17 Andras Mantia aman...@kde.org: On Thursday, November 17, 2011 18:17:30 Alexander Neundorf wrote: i was not sure i agreed with that approach, but i have to say that the last few threads on this topic on k-c-d have supported their point :( I would draw exactly the opposite

Re: Frameworks mailing list

2011-11-16 Thread Thomas Friedrichsmeier
On Wednesday 16 November 2011, Albert Astals Cid wrote: In case someone is interested since it has never mentioned in this list, there is a frameworks mailing list at kde-frameworks-devel https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-frameworks-devel So why have this discussion on a separate list,

Re: Re: Frameworks mailing list

2011-11-16 Thread Albert Astals Cid
A Dimecres, 16 de novembre de 2011, Thomas Friedrichsmeier vàreu escriure: On Wednesday 16 November 2011, Albert Astals Cid wrote: In case someone is interested since it has never mentioned in this list, there is a frameworks mailing list at kde-frameworks-devel

Re: Frameworks mailing list

2011-11-16 Thread Andras Mantia
On Wednesday, November 16, 2011 09:48:15 Thomas Friedrichsmeier wrote: So why have this discussion on a separate list, at all? Isn't that just the� sort of topic that kde-core-devel is for? I agree... Andras

Re: Frameworks mailing list

2011-11-16 Thread Alexander Neundorf
On Wednesday 16 November 2011, Andras Mantia wrote: On Wednesday, November 16, 2011 09:48:15 Thomas Friedrichsmeier wrote: So why have this discussion on a separate list, at all? Isn't that just the� sort of topic that kde-core-devel is for? I agree... Andras +1 Alex