[PATCH] Remove KDateTime limitation of 4712 BCE.

2012-10-08 Thread Jon Severinsson
QDate in Qt5 now supports dates before 4712 BCE (new limit is 12626108195557530 BCE, well outside the limit of a four digit year). --- This fixes test #12: kdecore-kdatetimetest when building on Qt5. I choose to just rip it out rather than to preserve behaviour for Qt4, as I figgured we could

Re: [PATCH] Remove KDateTime limitation of 4712 BCE.

2012-10-08 Thread Mark
On Sun, Oct 7, 2012 at 10:30 PM, Jon Severinsson j...@severinsson.net wrote: QDate in Qt5 now supports dates before 4712 BCE (new limit is 12626108195557530 BCE, well outside the limit of a four digit year). --- This fixes test #12: kdecore-kdatetimetest when building on Qt5. I choose to

Re: [PATCH] Remove KDateTime limitation of 4712 BCE.

2012-10-08 Thread David Faure
On Sunday 07 October 2012 22:30:28 Jon Severinsson wrote: This fixes test #12: kdecore-kdatetimetest when building on Qt5. Thank you! Much appreciated. I choose to just rip it out rather than to preserve behaviour for Qt4, as I figgured we could live with a bad return value from outOfRange()

Re: [PATCH] Remove KDateTime limitation of 4712 BCE.

2012-10-08 Thread Jon Severinsson
måndagen den 8 oktober 2012 12:41:21 skrev du: On Sunday 07 October 2012 22:30:28 Jon Severinsson wrote: This fixes test #12: kdecore-kdatetimetest when building on Qt5. Thank you! Much appreciated. I choose to just rip it out rather than to preserve behaviour for Qt4, as I figgured

Re: [PATCH] Remove KDateTime limitation of 4712 BCE.

2012-10-08 Thread David Faure
On Monday 08 October 2012 13:00:44 Jon Severinsson wrote: måndagen den 8 oktober 2012 12:41:21 skrev du: On Sunday 07 October 2012 22:30:28 Jon Severinsson wrote: This fixes test #12: kdecore-kdatetimetest when building on Qt5. Thank you! Much appreciated. I choose to just rip it

[PATCH] kdecore: Fix a bug in KDateTime utc offset string parsing.

2012-10-08 Thread Jon Severinsson
The sign of the UTC offset was ignored, and an offset of -0500 (New York) would be treated at +0500 (Pakistan). This commit also adds a unit test for UTC offset parsing and comparasion. --- Hi When mucking around in the frameworks branch of kdelibs I found a bug in the KDateTime string parsing,

Re: Review Request: Device notifier: show mounted device and path

2012-10-08 Thread Jonathan Marten
--- This is an automatically generated e-mail. To reply, visit: http://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/106755/ --- (Updated Oct. 8, 2012, 9:31 a.m.) Review request for KDE Base Apps and

Re: Review Request: Device notifier: show mounted device and path

2012-10-08 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
--- This is an automatically generated e-mail. To reply, visit: http://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/106755/#review20057 --- any application which expects the user to access files on disk

Re: Review Request: Device notifier: show mounted device and path

2012-10-08 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On Oct. 8, 2012, 9:52 a.m., Aaron J. Seigo wrote: any application which expects the user to access files on disk but does not provide a clear representation of mounted / removable devices is broken. there's no point in degrading our own primary UI for such fixable brokenness. can you

Re: Review Request: In Konqueror's session restore dialog, allow user to chose which sessions to restore

2012-10-08 Thread David Faure
--- This is an automatically generated e-mail. To reply, visit: http://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/106503/#review20065 --- konqueror/src/konqsessionmanager.cpp

Re: Review Request: In Konqueror's session restore dialog, allow user to chose which sessions to restore

2012-10-08 Thread Dawit Alemayehu
On Oct. 8, 2012, 10:30 a.m., David Faure wrote: konqueror/src/konqsessionmanager.cpp, line 123 http://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/106503/diff/6/?file=88345#file88345line123 Did you change this if() wrongly? Now the code says if I could find the dialog-warning icon, then

Re: Review Request: Fix Konqueror's MMB click to close tab option

2012-10-08 Thread Dawit Alemayehu
--- This is an automatically generated e-mail. To reply, visit: http://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/106615/ --- (Updated Oct. 8, 2012, 5:26 p.m.) Review request for KDE Base Apps and

Re: Review Request: In Konqueror's session restore dialog, allow user to chose which sessions to restore

2012-10-08 Thread Dawit Alemayehu
--- This is an automatically generated e-mail. To reply, visit: http://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/106503/ --- (Updated Oct. 8, 2012, 5:43 p.m.) Review request for KDE Base Apps and

Review Request: Make sure KPropertiesDialog inherits the 'Categories' property when creating a new desktop file from an existing one

2012-10-08 Thread Dawit Alemayehu
--- This is an automatically generated e-mail. To reply, visit: http://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/106771/ --- Review request for kdelibs and David Faure. Description --- The

Re: [PATCH] kdecore: Fix a bug in KDateTime utc offset string parsing.

2012-10-08 Thread Michael Pyne
On Sunday, October 07, 2012 22:23:56 Jon Severinsson wrote: The sign of the UTC offset was ignored, and an offset of -0500 (New York) would be treated at +0500 (Pakistan). This commit also adds a unit test for UTC offset parsing and comparasion. --- Hi When mucking around in the frameworks

Re: Requiring cmake 2.8.9 for kdelibs 4.10 ?

2012-10-08 Thread Alexander Neundorf
On Sunday 30 September 2012, Alexander Neundorf wrote: On Saturday 29 September 2012, Michael Pyne wrote: On Saturday, September 29, 2012 12:12:43 André Wöbbeking wrote: On Saturday 29 September 2012 11:59:04 Rolf Eike Beer wrote: Am Samstag 29 September 2012, 11:48:16 schrieb André

RFC: Enabling -DKDE4_BUILD_TESTS=ON by default

2012-10-08 Thread Albert Astals Cid
Hi fellow kde-core-develers, i was thinking that from time to time someone commits some code that breaks the building of the tests. This happens because people is not aware that those parts are unit tested. I think that by enabling the building of the tests by default we at least make sure the

Re: RFC: Enabling -DKDE4_BUILD_TESTS=ON by default

2012-10-08 Thread Àlex Fiestas
Anything to make developers (including myself) more unit test aware, I'm all for it, even if it helps only a little bit.

Re: RFC: Enabling -DKDE4_BUILD_TESTS=ON by default

2012-10-08 Thread Allen Winter
On Monday 08 October 2012 10:40:55 PM Albert Astals Cid wrote: Hi fellow kde-core-develers, i was thinking that from time to time someone commits some code that breaks the building of the tests. This happens because people is not aware that those parts are unit tested. I think that by

Re: RFC: Enabling -DKDE4_BUILD_TESTS=ON by default

2012-10-08 Thread Lamarque V. Souza
Em Monday 08 October 2012, Àlex Fiestas escreveu: Anything to make developers (including myself) more unit test aware, I'm all for it, even if it helps only a little bit. +1 -- Lamarque V. Souza KDE's Network Management maintainer http://planetkde.org/pt-br

Re: RFC: Enabling -DKDE4_BUILD_TESTS=ON by default

2012-10-08 Thread Ben Cooksley
On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 9:55 AM, Lamarque V. Souza lamar...@kde.org wrote: Em Monday 08 October 2012, Àlex Fiestas escreveu: Anything to make developers (including myself) more unit test aware, I'm all for it, even if it helps only a little bit. +1 +1 from me as well. -- Lamarque

Re: RFC: Enabling -DKDE4_BUILD_TESTS=ON by default

2012-10-08 Thread Andreas Hartmetz
On Monday 08 October 2012 22:40:55 Albert Astals Cid wrote: Hi fellow kde-core-develers, i was thinking that from time to time someone commits some code that breaks the building of the tests. This happens because people is not aware that those parts are unit tested. I think that by

Re: [PATCH] kdecore: Fix a bug in KDateTime utc offset string parsing.

2012-10-08 Thread David Jarvie
On Sunday 07 October 2012 21:23:56 Jon Severinsson wrote: The sign of the UTC offset was ignored, and an offset of -0500 (New York) would be treated at +0500 (Pakistan). This commit also adds a unit test for UTC offset parsing and comparasion. --- Hi When mucking around in the frameworks

Re: RFC: Enabling -DKDE4_BUILD_TESTS=ON by default

2012-10-08 Thread Martin Gräßlin
On Monday 08 October 2012 22:40:55 Albert Astals Cid wrote: Hi fellow kde-core-develers, i was thinking that from time to time someone commits some code that breaks the building of the tests. This happens because people is not aware that those parts are unit tested. I think that by

Re: Online Accounts

2012-10-08 Thread Alex Fiestas
Hehe, this email couldn't arrive at better timing. We are discussing in another mailist (plasma-devel) about this. We created a PoC of our own sso called Accounts and designed how the final thing should look like at our annual meeting (Akademy). You can take a look at the PoC here:

Re: Starting the KuantifiedSelf project.

2012-10-08 Thread Sivan Greenberg
Halo Sebastian :) On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 2:17 PM, Sebastian Kügler se...@kde.org wrote: - If you need something infrastructure, the KDE sysadmin team can help you. Right, so code repository will be needed as soon as I finish the mobile client , as from there I'd like to try and have a KDE

Nepomuk - Moving away from Strigi

2012-10-08 Thread Vishesh Handa
Hey everyone For 4.10, Nepomuk will no longer depend on Strigi for file indexing. We have written our own file indexer which are based on popular libraries such as taglib, exiv, ffmpeg, etc. This allows us to better control the indexing process. If you would like to know more reasons as to why

Re: Nepomuk - Moving away from Strigi

2012-10-08 Thread Vishesh Handa
A quick clarification - All of these additional dependencies - TagLib, FFmpeg, Exiv2, Poppler and more - they are all OPTIONAL. If you don't have the required library, then we just will not extract metadata from the mimetypes that it supports. On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 7:21 PM, Vishesh Handa

Re: [Nepomuk] Nepomuk - Moving away from Strigi

2012-10-08 Thread todd rme
On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 3:51 PM, Vishesh Handa m...@vhanda.in wrote: Hey everyone For 4.10, Nepomuk will no longer depend on Strigi for file indexing. We have written our own file indexer which are based on popular libraries such as taglib, exiv, ffmpeg, etc. This allows us to better control

Re: Starting the KuantifiedSelf project.

2012-10-08 Thread Sebastian Kügler
Hi Sivan, On Monday, October 08, 2012 15:37:14 Sivan Greenberg wrote: On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 2:17 PM, Sebastian Kügler se...@kde.org wrote: - If you need something infrastructure, the KDE sysadmin team can help you. Right, so code repository will be needed as soon as I finish the mobile

Re: [Nepomuk] Nepomuk - Moving away from Strigi

2012-10-08 Thread Vishesh Handa
On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 7:33 PM, todd rme toddrme2...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 3:51 PM, Vishesh Handa m...@vhanda.in wrote: Hey everyone For 4.10, Nepomuk will no longer depend on Strigi for file indexing. We have written our own file indexer which are based on popular

Re: [Nepomuk] Nepomuk - Moving away from Strigi

2012-10-08 Thread Rex Dieter
On 10/08/2012 08:59 AM, Aleix Pol wrote: On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 3:51 PM, Vishesh Handa m...@vhanda.in wrote: Hey everyone For 4.10, Nepomuk will no longer depend on Strigi for file indexing. We have written our own file indexer which are based on popular libraries such as taglib, exiv, ffmpeg,

Re: [Nepomuk] Nepomuk - Moving away from Strigi

2012-10-08 Thread Vishesh Handa
On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 8:08 PM, Eric Hameleers al...@slackware.com wrote: On Mon, 8 Oct 2012, Aleix Pol wrote: In any case, I'm unsure that KDE can shine without ffmpeg. Aleix I am sure that ffmpeg is providing some core functionality here. But, a distribution like Slackware does not

Re: [Nepomuk] Nepomuk - Moving away from Strigi

2012-10-08 Thread Sven Burmeister
Am Montag, 8. Oktober 2012, 20:12:07 schrieb Vishesh Handa: That is the current scenario. All indexing plugin (including ffmpeg) are optional during compile time. So if you cannot have ffmpeg installed when compiling nepomuk-core you have to re-compile it in order to use the ffmpeg plug-in?

Re: [Nepomuk] Nepomuk - Moving away from Strigi

2012-10-08 Thread todd rme
On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 4:42 PM, Vishesh Handa m...@vhanda.in wrote: On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 8:08 PM, Eric Hameleers al...@slackware.com wrote: On Mon, 8 Oct 2012, Aleix Pol wrote: In any case, I'm unsure that KDE can shine without ffmpeg. Aleix I am sure that ffmpeg is providing some

Re: [Nepomuk] Nepomuk - Moving away from Strigi

2012-10-08 Thread Vishesh Handa
On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 8:17 PM, Sven Burmeister sven.burmeis...@gmx.netwrote: Am Montag, 8. Oktober 2012, 20:12:07 schrieb Vishesh Handa: That is the current scenario. All indexing plugin (including ffmpeg) are optional during compile time. So if you cannot have ffmpeg installed when

Re: [Nepomuk] Nepomuk - Moving away from Strigi

2012-10-08 Thread Eric Hameleers
On Mon, 8 Oct 2012, Aleix Pol wrote: Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2012 15:59:12 +0200 From: Aleix Pol aleix...@kde.org To: Vishesh Handa m...@vhanda.in Cc: kde-devel@kde.org, Nepomuk mailing list nepo...@kde.org, kde-packag...@kde.org Subject: Re: [Nepomuk] Nepomuk - Moving away from Strigi On Mon,

Re: [Nepomuk] Nepomuk - Moving away from Strigi

2012-10-08 Thread Kevin Kofler
On Monday 08 October 2012 at 16:03:26, todd rme wrote: What do you mean by separate repository? Do you mean people would be able to build and install the plugins independently of nepomuk-core? Certainly for the legally questionable ones this would be nice. For us in Fedora, this would be

Re: [Nepomuk] Nepomuk - Moving away from Strigi

2012-10-08 Thread Kevin Kofler
On Monday 08 October 2012 at 15:59:12, Aleix Pol wrote: In any case, I'm unsure that KDE can shine without ffmpeg. It can, and it must. FFmpeg (or Libav which is basically the same thing) is not acceptable for Fedora and will not be in Fedora any time soon. (Maybe in something like 20 years

Re: [Nepomuk] Nepomuk - Moving away from Strigi

2012-10-08 Thread Vishesh Handa
On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 8:19 PM, todd rme toddrme2...@gmail.com wrote: Out of curiosity, what is the functionality that depends on ffmpeg? I am not sure it is really possible to know the best approach unless we know what we are losing by not having it. Extracting the metadata from video

Re: [Nepomuk] Nepomuk - Moving away from Strigi

2012-10-08 Thread Sven Burmeister
Am Montag, 8. Oktober 2012, 20:28:14 schrieb Vishesh Handa: yes. That is the current scenario. I'm not sure how the packagers handle this. It would be better if the user would just need to install the plug-in and not a re-compiled nepomuk-core, i.e. make e.g. ffmpeg just a dependency of the

Re: [Nepomuk] Nepomuk - Moving away from Strigi

2012-10-08 Thread Sven Burmeister
Am Montag, 8. Oktober 2012, 16:52:48 schrieb Kevin Kofler: For us in Fedora, this would be not just nice, but REQUIRED. We cannot ship anything depending on FFmpeg in Fedora. So it's either shipping the offending indexers in RPM Fusion in a separate package (which will obviously NOT be

Re: Nepomuk - Moving away from Strigi

2012-10-08 Thread Allan Sandfeld Jensen
On Monday 08 October 2012, Vishesh Handa wrote: Hey everyone For 4.10, Nepomuk will no longer depend on Strigi for file indexing. We have written our own file indexer which are based on popular libraries such as taglib, exiv, ffmpeg, etc. This allows us to better control the indexing

Re: [Nepomuk] Nepomuk - Moving away from Strigi

2012-10-08 Thread Martin Sandsmark
On Monday 8. October 2012 09.34.34 Rex Dieter wrote: ffmpeg in particular is a patent mine-field indeed. echoing others... if these can be deployed in some form of separately built/deployed plugins, that would be ideal. Has there been any case at all of people trying to enforce their patents

Re: [Nepomuk] Nepomuk - Moving away from Strigi

2012-10-08 Thread Martin Sandsmark
On Monday 8. October 2012 16.52.48 Kevin Kofler wrote: For us in Fedora, this would be not just nice, but REQUIRED. We cannot ship anything depending on FFmpeg in Fedora. Why not? Don't you ship the Linux kernel (which is a much worse minefield patent-wise in practice, people have actually

Re: [Nepomuk] Nepomuk - Moving away from Strigi

2012-10-08 Thread Adrian Schröter
Am Montag, 8. Oktober 2012, 20:12:07 schrieb Vishesh Handa: On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 8:08 PM, Eric Hameleers al...@slackware.com wrote: On Mon, 8 Oct 2012, Aleix Pol wrote: In any case, I'm unsure that KDE can shine without ffmpeg. Aleix I am sure that ffmpeg is providing some

Re: [Nepomuk] Nepomuk - Moving away from Strigi

2012-10-08 Thread Alex Fiestas
Hey! let's keep the email clean about how stupid patents are, we all agree on that :p Some distributions have legal departments, distributions are our only way to make our software reach the end user, we have to work together even if we don't like their policies. Vishesh already proposed a way of

Re: [Nepomuk] Nepomuk - Moving away from Strigi

2012-10-08 Thread Martin Sandsmark
On Monday 8. October 2012 20.06.47 Reindl Harald wrote: this argumentation is invalid with this argumentation you could smoke crack everywhere as long you are not catched and call it legal Are you even trying to understand what I'm talking about? Patents are being actively enforced against

Re: [Nepomuk] Nepomuk - Moving away from Strigi

2012-10-08 Thread Martin Sandsmark
On Monday 8. October 2012 17.25.49 Adrian Schröter wrote: I think this may also harm the reputation of the KDE project as an free project. Why? ffmpeg is freely licensed. -- Martin Sandsmark KDE Visit http://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-devel#unsub to unsubscribe

Re: [Nepomuk] Nepomuk - Moving away from Strigi

2012-10-08 Thread Albert Astals Cid
El Dilluns, 8 d'octubre de 2012, a les 20:59:49, Martin Sandsmark va escriure: On Monday 8. October 2012 20.06.47 Reindl Harald wrote: this argumentation is invalid with this argumentation you could smoke crack everywhere as long you are not catched and call it legal Are you even trying

Re: [Nepomuk] Nepomuk - Moving away from Strigi

2012-10-08 Thread Sven Burmeister
Am Montag, 8. Oktober 2012, 19:44:24 schrieb Martin Sandsmark: On Monday 8. October 2012 16.52.48 Kevin Kofler wrote: For us in Fedora, this would be not just nice, but REQUIRED. We cannot ship anything depending on FFmpeg in Fedora. Why not? Don't you ship the Linux kernel (which is a

Re: [Nepomuk] Nepomuk - Moving away from Strigi

2012-10-08 Thread Thomas Lübking
On Montag, 8. Oktober 2012 21:08:02 CEST Sven Burmeister wrote: Fact is that openSUSE and Fedora do not not ship this kind of software because they want to annoy users but because there are reasons. Being to annoy users? ;-P (This is one great hypocritical delusion - as if any SuSE or RedHat

Re: [Nepomuk] Nepomuk - Moving away from Strigi

2012-10-08 Thread Vishesh Handa
On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 1:03 AM, Thomas Lübking thomas.luebk...@gmail.comwrote: On Montag, 8. Oktober 2012 21:08:02 CEST Sven Burmeister wrote: Fact is that openSUSE and Fedora do not not ship this kind of software because they want to annoy users but because there are reasons. Being to annoy

Re: [Nepomuk] Nepomuk - Moving away from Strigi

2012-10-08 Thread Thomas Lübking
On Montag, 8. Oktober 2012 21:35:43 CEST Vishesh Handa wrote: On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 1:03 AM, Thomas Lübking a) if this ffmpeg / avlib kindergarten junk does not short term stop, using a plugin system in this context will be inevitable; also because those idiots apparently still ship

Re: Nepomuk - Moving away from Strigi

2012-10-08 Thread John Layt
On 8 October 2012 14:51, Vishesh Handa m...@vhanda.in wrote: For 4.10, Nepomuk will no longer depend on Strigi for file indexing. We have written our own file indexer which are based on popular libraries such as taglib, exiv, ffmpeg, etc. This allows us to better control the indexing process.

Re: Nepomuk - Moving away from Strigi

2012-10-08 Thread Vishesh Handa
On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 1:24 AM, John Layt jl...@kde.org wrote: On 8 October 2012 14:51, Vishesh Handa m...@vhanda.in wrote: For 4.10, Nepomuk will no longer depend on Strigi for file indexing. We have written our own file indexer which are based on popular libraries such as taglib, exiv,

Re: Nepomuk - Moving away from Strigi

2012-10-08 Thread Albert Astals Cid
El Dilluns, 8 d'octubre de 2012, a les 20:54:03, John Layt va escriure: On 8 October 2012 14:51, Vishesh Handa m...@vhanda.in wrote: For 4.10, Nepomuk will no longer depend on Strigi for file indexing. We have written our own file indexer which are based on popular libraries such as taglib,

Re: [Nepomuk] Nepomuk - Moving away from Strigi

2012-10-08 Thread Martin Sandsmark
On Monday 8. October 2012 21.08.02 Sven Burmeister wrote: Please do not make this a thread about things lawyers have to decide. Fact is that openSUSE and Fedora do not not ship this kind of software because they want to annoy users but because there are reasons. WTF? This is something that is

Re: [Nepomuk] Nepomuk - Moving away from Strigi

2012-10-08 Thread Sven Burmeister
Am Montag, 8. Oktober 2012, 22:15:03 schrieb Martin Sandsmark: On Monday 8. October 2012 21.08.02 Sven Burmeister wrote: Please do not make this a thread about things lawyers have to decide. Fact is that openSUSE and Fedora do not not ship this kind of software because they want to annoy

Re: Re: [Nepomuk] Nepomuk - Moving away from Strigi

2012-10-08 Thread Martin Gräßlin
On Monday 08 October 2012 22:15:03 Martin Sandsmark wrote: On Monday 8. October 2012 21.08.02 Sven Burmeister wrote: Please do not make this a thread about things lawyers have to decide. Fact is that openSUSE and Fedora do not not ship this kind of software because they want to annoy users

Re: [Nepomuk] Nepomuk - Moving away from Strigi

2012-10-08 Thread Martin Sandsmark
On Monday 8. October 2012 22.22.03 Sven Burmeister wrote: Not being allowed to question something is different from staying on-topic within a thread. I am arguing against the entire reason for having this thread. Vishesh shouldn't have to go around worrying about this crap just because RedHat

Re: [Nepomuk] Nepomuk - Moving away from Strigi

2012-10-08 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 08.10.2012 22:53, schrieb Martin Sandsmark: I am arguing against the entire reason for having this thread. Vishesh shouldn't have to go around worrying about this crap just because RedHat has bad lawyers and has double standards when it comes to the software they are shipping. not so

Re: Using KCategorizedView

2012-10-08 Thread Ben Cooksley
On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 8:27 AM, Pierre Stirnweiss pstirnwe...@googlemail.com wrote: Hello everybody, Hi Pierre, As I am new to this list, first a little introduction: My name is Pierre Stirnweiss. I am french and 37 years old and currently live in Munich, Germany. I work on Calligra Words.

Re: Re: [Nepomuk] Nepomuk - Moving away from Strigi

2012-10-08 Thread Kevin Kofler
On Monday 08 October 2012 at 22:26:30, Martin Gräßlin wrote: Neither Kevin (Fedora), Scott (Kubuntu) nor Adrian (SUSE) came up with the rules, they are just pointing out the policies. While I do not agree with their policies I can kind of understand it. What everybody can do is to bring the