his =
wing
man was awake and told him to break right. Well it seemed like a good =
idea
at the time. (lots of things fit that category when you happen to be =
hung
over)
Doug Rupert
Simcoe Ontario
There is no Lake Michigan to fly over but there are plenty of F-16s to =
keep
an eye
Hey Don you interested in an even up trade for my Mercury Panel truck. =
Would
be a great head turner for the business and even get to write her off on
taxes.
Doug Rupert.
Don Chisholm
Subject: Re: KR> For sale
I have a outer wing panel set that are jig built using a laser le
A small box made out of brass sheet stock comes to mind.
Doug Rupert
Simcoe Ontario
Thanks for the info. Could you explain what magnetic compass shielding
consists of?
Serge Vidal
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Now that brings back fond memories Jack. Put some poor Vietnamese fisherman
over the side of the boat one afternoon as we were coming back from a
mission. Caught hell on landing but what the hell was he doing off the end
of the active anyway
Doug Rupert
Simcoe Ontario
Roll the throttle to engine
Your local auto supply would be your best bet.
Doug Rupert
Simcoe Ontario
And a good source for buying metal brake line.
Bob Glidden
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this
isn't KR related but Bob needs all the encouragement he can get right now.
Doug Rupert
Simcoe Ontario
No the planes are good,just kind of a bummer,but I've got enough lumber
laying around to finish my shop in the barn...
Bob Glidden
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I have the book and I noticed that was the 2 not 2S. I believe the longer
tail moment of the stretch took care of that.
Doug Rupert
Simcoe Ontario
In Jack Lambie's book "Composite Construction for Homebuilt Aircraft" he
writes about flying with Ken Rand in the KR-2 - "The nose
Only reason I went with the Lowrance was the price was right. Bought the
Marine unit for 80 bucks and re-programmed the sucker for air usage. Big
screen of the 1000 was a bonus.
Doug Rupert
Simcoe Ontario
The other thing that I miss about my Garmin is the icons that represent
airports
in a large screen unit
that I don't need a magnifying glass to see. First time I get a chance =
to
hop a ride with someone I'll take her along for the ride and report back =
on
operational status. Nothing ventured nothing gained.
Doug Rupert
Simcoe Ontario
drup...@sympatico.ca
It turned out
bid
on it and it was a pretty safe gamble since the two units were so =
similar.
The operating manual has backed this up so far and all I really need to =
do
now is test it in the air. A little on the large size to be carry on for
commercial so will have to wait till the little bird is finished.
Doug
a color screen from a laptop =
grafted
on. Found a joint in Mississauga that has cases of screens both =
monochrome
and color. If I could figure out how these things hook up it might be =
worth
a shot working with those since the unit is staying with the plane all =
the
time.
Doug Rupert
Simcoe Ontario
I
out. One =
down,
controlled crash. Both quit, push stick forward, bend over and kiss your
arse good-bye unless you have the altitude to punch out. What they =
forget to
tell you though that 99% of the time you're operating too low for that.
Doug Rupert
drup...@sympatico.ca
Anybody want to give me
ordinarily wouldn't dare in order to survive. Be prepared comes =
to
mind here. Any of the old military pilots here can verify that =
statement.
Doug Rupert
drup...@sympatico.ca
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of installation =
is
a real bonus. The rest of you guys go ahead and flame away I'm wearing =
my
Nomex.
Doug Rupert
drup...@sympatico.ca
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, farm it out to =
a
pro.
Doug Rupert
drup...@sympatico.ca
I often had illusions of welding my own stuff and then one day, I found =
a
guy who has been welding aluminum irrigation pipe and many other such =
things
for many years of his life. I recently had him weld the stainless bung =
to
my steel
ctor to those of us with small panels.
Doug Rupert
Simcoe Ontario
I WILL BE USING THE ULTRA H XL IN MY BIRD.=20
JACO SWANEPOEL
PRETORIA=20
SOUTH AFRICA
KR2S, ZU-DVP
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to
find a place in the States to build the engine, cover the completed =
beast
with oil and dirt put it in the back of his truck and declare it as =
scrap to
customs. Otherwise just buy a mid-time certified engine and keep the =
change.
Doug Rupert
Simcoe Ontario
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Last time I looked Dan owned the company and was not affiliated with Rand,
just happens to make parts for KR's. He also makes accessory cases for VW's
so that mean he's part of Great Planes as well?
Doug Rupert
Simcoe Ontario
I don't think Dan would do it because the MOD is not endorsed by RR
the lighter weight of the Jab may necessitate =
using
a longer engine mount to keep the CG with range.
Doug Rupert
Simcoe Ontario
I have already tried 2 twice to acecess the information via KRnet =
Archives.=20
For both Carbon Info and Jabiru 3300 info. Nil results. ! I read the=20
instructions re
the
prospective buyer should choose. Same for the horizontal stabilizer.
Doug Rupert
Simcoe Ontario
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give you a few ideas of your own.
Doug Rupert
Simcoe Ontario
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off on the
taxiway at the entrance end of the runway. What a rush.
Doug Rupert
Simcoe Ontario
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as several other things prior to =
leaving
the refinery or bulk station. Better yet junk the engines and replace =
with
turbines and you can land at any old truckstop for fuel.
Doug Rupert
Simcoe Ontario
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detailed info.
Doug Rupert
Simcoe Ontario
-Original Message-
From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net] On Behalf
Of Tim Haynes
Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2006 9:41 AM
To: KRnet
Subject: Re: KR> Engines
Is It against the rules to ask questions ???
Tim
Austra
Take a chill pill Dan the message had already been sent before you made you
first comment and I will be the first to admit I was wrong. If that still
bothers you, tough.
Doug Rupert
Simcoe Ontario
OK, I am going to give this one more try
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a
can. This way you can regularily dip the tanks as part of pre-flight as =
well
a using the sump drain. Best to find out on the ground than in the air.
Doug Rupert
Simcoe Ontario
At least with a "Remove Before Flight" strip attached...
Frank
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, liquid, weight, volume. =
BTW
everyone has been using the metric system for flight info for years.
Remember your density altitude corrections? They have always been given =
in
degrees Celsius and the trusty E6B made the conversion for us.
Doug Rupert
Simcoe Ontario =20
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with helicopter =
flight.
Doug Rupert
Simcoe Ontario
I am not a believer in the high speed taxi training regimen. I was =
about
convinced to give it another try, by my buddies here on the KRNet, =
(crashed
my first KR doing that
Daniel R. Heath - Lexington, SC
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d up to the punishment a =
boat
in salt water is good enough for KR work in my opinion. The fact that =
they
load their finishes down with UV blockers seemed to be a bonus as well =
as
the fact that the paint is relatively cheap as paints go and available
through just about any boat dealer.
Doug Rupert
Simcoe Ont
Mark Langford has a nifty little program that gives you all the =
pertinent
data regarding spar depth/construction and strength figures. A simple
multiplication of this info against the moment arm SHOULD get you in the
ballpark. Again I'm no engineer either.
Doug
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As far as changing the spar
to
attempt such a change. If it were me I would go with the 5048 airfoil =
and
build the sucker. I would have absolutely no hesitation on taking it =
into
the air as with the added depth of the spar I think the WAF would now be =
the
weak link in such an arrangement.
Doug Rupert
Caution. Spin recovery
the =
radios
off the panel but I do have extensive experience with this layout so =
it's
quite natural for me.
Doug Rupert
Has anyone ever built or contemplated building a single seat KR2S. Ie,
narrowing the fuselage a bit, but maintaining the length, span, etc? =
Just
thinking it might be sort
No need for embarrassment. I thought that was the idea behind this list to
exchange ideas among builders and hash things out BEFORE construction and
possible costly errors.
Doug
Nontheless, I would be interested to know how a KR behaves in a spin with
fuel only in the outer tanks. Anyone tried
Thanks Mark will file that number & name away for when the time comes.
Doug
Falcon Insurance (830-257-1000) insured my Corvair powered KR2S through =
AIG,
complete with hull insurance, as well as liablity. Cost was $1500 for=20
$25,000 hull insurance, and a million dollars liability. I expect
of
the Mazda rotary but that one has many more points of failure associated
with it. i.e. reduction drives and cooing systems would top the list here.
Doug Rupert
I remember a statement some time ago from someone that the Corvair engine
was bullet proof. All engines can be broke. Defining
builder to decide what they
are comfortable with. Buy the plans, make the design changes you wish =
and
get another set of plans drawn up that reflect these changes before you =
even
start ordering wood let alone cutting and gluing. My opinion only and =
worth
as much as you paid for it.
Doug Rupert
in name only now. Longer, wider, Corvair power, flaps, speed brakes, new
wing design, well you get the picture.
Insurance is a whole new ballgame and I haven't got that far so
I leave that to those that have already run the gauntlet to answer.
Doug Rupert
There is one part I held back
Thanks Oscar and no matter what others may say regarding your timely posts,
keep it up as some of us don't have the time to constantly check William's
site.
Doug Rupert
William has posted an update to his website, at
http://www.flycorvair.com/hangar.html . The new engine disassembly videos
that you =
might
want to look into that Harley powerplant currently being marketed up =
Chicago
way. If memory serves the outfit is HogAir. This little beauty has a =
very
small footprint (physical size) and is of favorable weight for KR =
useage.
Doug Rupert
I am looking for a narrower (smaller
catches fire you have at least a chance to =
run
but propane just goes bang.
Doug Rupert
-Original Message-
From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net] On =
Behalf
Of Larry Flesner
Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2006 9:30 AM
To: brokerpilot9...@earthlink.net; KRnet
Subject
Ah the good old days. I damn near got shot at Nellis one night when me =
and
an Admiral deplaned for a smoke. We were standing off the flight line =
having
a butt when the Air Police showed up yelling and jumping up & down. =
About
ready to lock me up after I told the young airman to go piss up a
I still miss it Steve ever after all these years. Flew corporate for a =
while
then freight as pax got on my nerves with all the stupid questions, =
usually
when you were on short final in high traffic area. Military flying was =
the
best, getting paid to fly on the ragged edge all the time.
Harold I'll have to contact you next time I pass that way to check on my
mother just north of you. Would really like to pick your brain and get some
shots of your KR.
Doug Rupert
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. Civilian
controllers run a close second as they suffer greatly from overwork and =
long
schedules. Rapid burn out rate at higher traffic airports and centers.
Doug Rupert
Mark
I was a controller in the USAF from 1972-76 and you would not believe =
how=20
much we enjoyed/appericated a pilot that actually
Merry Christmas to you as well. I would love a copy too.
Doug Rupert
I have a completed, flying model of the KR-2 for the X-Plane, flight
simulation program. If you would like a copy of it, let me know.
I hope all of you have a Merry Christmas and a Happy and prosperous
New Year
but =
have
lost more than a few automotive engines when the throttle return spring =
has
let go.
Doug Rupert
Be glad you do not have my carb; I have to ADD a spring to counter the
throttle return spring so that mine will stay put where I open it to or =
it
will behave like it does in the car
Very true. Any true engine out landings have been in helicopters so landing
area was a non issue. Only engine failure in fixed wing was on my
multi-engine checkride. That damn Baron was a brute to fly with left engine
out but at least the one fan still going allowed landing at the airport not
the
Joyeaux Noel
Doug Rupert
Merry Christmas to you all, happy building, happy sanding, and many, many
happy landings.
Serge Vidal
Paris, France
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Mark, silver is a big no-no with internal antennas. The aluminum =
particles
used in the silver play hell with reception. Better to go with a light =
shade
of gray and avoid any color that's metallic.
Doug Rupert
ALMOST? My wife walked in while I was looking at the silver paint in =
the=20
from the ice this winter I just might =
look
you up. Have to get my butt down to Jack Cooper=92s to pick up the parts =
I
bought before he hands me a whopper of a storage bill.
Doug Rupert
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Longer wings, speed brake and flaps would surely do the trick by =
lowering
the stall speed to qualify under LSA. Possibly the KR motorglider wings =
with
beefed up spar BUT I have to agree with Colin on the other designs. The
Zodiac XL with a Corvair for power comes to mind.
Doug Rupert
I agree
Rotax is pricey and way out of my league. Given your desire for the KR I
would talk with Mark Langford or one of the guys that knows more about =
the
KR motorglider. The long wings will slow the top speed as well as lower =
the
landing speed but are not recommended for the KR2 due to increased =
you could find a friendly examiner with an open mind) You'd probably
have to use a smaller engine than those being currently used by most KR
builder and drivers. Could be one hell of an expensive experiment when
finished. Good luck
Doug Rupert
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that allows you to =
get
it off when all that pressure is on the outside. I know, break the =
canopy
but how long can you hold your breath. This is one of the very few
objections I have to the tilt and gull-wing designs.
Doug Rupert
Those mountains look a little scary. I remember
flying
and are rock steady in most flight maneuvers BUT this was with =
mucho
time and effort and a lot of changes to the design laid out in the =
plans.
Doug Rupert
If you want to fly a KR get a PPL. If you have medical problems that is =
one=20
thing but if you just don't want to go to the trouble
It's in the archives I believe but just in case I'll send you the sketch
taken from the old newsletter. It'll arrive off list.
Doug Rupert
Canada eh!
greetings all, has any one out there in kr land got a set of drawings
for a sliding canopy? can email off net. with thanks. steve edwards
In theory yes but running 100LL Avgas means you better carry a few
replacement oxygen sensors along for the ride. Those running automotive =
fuel
don't have to worry about it.
Doug Rupert
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Does this mean that this installed correctly ony any airplane would =
indicate
proper air/fuel
here in the frostier climates would definitely have a problem in
that department. One only need look as far as the nearest Corvette that has
encountered an immovable object during winter months. They have a tendency
to shatter at best.
Doug Rupert
. As was mentioned previously, this is also common
mechanism used would have little if
any effect on flutter. I too am opting for Dr Deans approach on all hinged
surfaces. A little costlier to build but hinge service life will be much
longer and friction a non-issue.
Doug Rupert
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the
plans type hinges, or better yet the Dr. Dean type. Both have been =
tested
perform, are in wide usage and do not have a finite lifespan with proper
maintenance and inspection. Just my opinion.
Doug Rupert
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10 refers to the size, probably 10 gauge and 32 refers to threads per inch.
Question 2 probably 12-32 which would be a machine screw not AN.
Doug Rupert
Could somebody well versed in the secrets of the Imperial system tell me:
1 - When a thread size is expressed at, say, 10-32, what do
the armored seat pan from my
arse cheeks when I managed to throw something at the bird that engineer
types don't think of. (combat gross weight is always higher than the book
says)
There are more learned than I, say Jim Ferris, and Doug Rupert that can
comment further if this thread continues
Colin
don't =
think
however I'd try this little stunt on a flight engine due to undue =
stresses
placed on all kinds of rotating masses.
Doug Rupert
He took a large rubber mallet=20
and smacked the roker arms a few times after removing the cover of =
course=20
and now that cylinder is showing 74 pounds
Ken you must have been half listening cause you missed the most =
important
part of that advice. You do as he said whether it be transmission or =
rear
end then take the beast to the nearest dealer and trade her in.
Doug Rupert
Musta been the same mechanic that told me back in the day to put
Something to do with my anti-virus program I believe. Every once in a while
I get one from others on the list as well.
Doug
Why is there an attachmeni to my recieved message ?? Virg
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that it is compact and completely made from aluminum started the wheels
turning. Needless to say the complete unit, sensors and wiring harness were
carefully removed before the carcass left for the scrap yard. Maybe one day
but for now it's getting a stock Corvair built and mounted for flight.
Doug Rupert
Yes
steering servo from the boat to be used as a simple autopilot. If that servo
is strong enough to steer a 40 foot yacht I'm sure it won't have a problem
pointing a KR in the right direction.
Doug Rupert
Speaking of GPS, I saw a GPS unit that plugs into your
computer for about $80 (US) the other day. Looks
to keep =
them
from squealing since asbestos has been replaced by metal. Lasts a long =
time
and doesn't wash off readily.
Doug Rupert
Can somebody remind me what it was and where to get it (NAPA, I'm
thinking)? If all else fails, I'll probably just wax 'em, right after I
Scotchbrite 'em, but I
John Get back to me off list. Hawks have to talk
Doug Rupert drup...@sympatico.ca
519-426-2178
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John: Do you ever stay home? Where is home base and are you Sr or Junior?
Doug Rupert
By the way, I am stationed in Kuwait, and have not had a chance to
select an aircraft to build yet
Have you any knowledge of a folding wing option for the KR-2?
John
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Don:
When I get to the finishing stage figure on doing my cockpit as well as
covers for the whole bird. I put my Mercury panel truck on the line last
night to William in exchange for that completed engine he has for sale.
We'll have to see what he says. Damnest thing is the panel is worth as much
Don there is a place in Mississauga that sells aircraft grade aluminum =
just
off Dixie Road. I'll go through my receipts and see if I can get you the
address. In the meantime call Leavens and ask them where they get it
locally.
Doug Rupert
I'm looking for aluminum bar stock for landing gear legs
Orma how about columns for date started construction, finished construction,
percent complete, engine, empty weight taildragger or tri-gear.
Doug Rupert
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That boy never ceases to amaze me. He hair-balled up a fully complete (less
covering) Super Skybolt for $3500 two weeks after I bought the KR.
Doug Rupert
Darryl Gilbert from Gilbert Custom Aircraft has
a 1915 cc VW engine for sale for $2500. The
engine is complete set up for dual ignition
of the
steel unless one knows exactly what they are doing. My preference would be
to have them powdercoated and forget about corrosion for the life of the
bird.
Doug Rupert
Simcoe Ontario
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You put a KR thru the same daily pounding as a boat gets you've got bigger
problems than a broken antenna lead.
Doug Rupert
Simcoe Ontario
. It sounds like it would be a very remote
possibility, but I have seen it more times than I can count in marine
applications.
Brian Kraut
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A visit to your local evestrough installer will get you what you need and it
even comes in colors.
Doug Rupert
Roof flashing
Keith Crawford
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Larry; a couple of coats of good old Turtle wax after the paint has cured
will insure that the paint doesn't come off when removing the tape. A hair
dyer or heat gun eases the job and is double insurance.
Doug Rupert
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Keep on solving. Just got mine home today and it is now sitting on a pallet
in the barn awaiting initial teardown. Hopefully the rebuild will go better
than picking the engine up and transporting her home.
Doug Rupert
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Very true Serge. Don't forget that we can take a certificated airplane and
hang an auto conversion on the front and it now falls in the "experimental"
class as well.
Doug
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certain operating temperatures. Builders need =
to
keep in mind that ALL these factors need to be addressed when making =
changes
to any engine used for purposes other than that they were originally
designed for.
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than all this safety talk all builders and flyers should be
more intent on building and flying aircraft that are constructed with =
risk
management as the prime deciding factor before any changes are made or
deviation from specifications.
Doug Rupert
Fuel injection is the cats meow for a combustion
Thanks for the first person info Mark. All I know is what I have read =
and
that has been rather hard to find. I was really looking at the setup =
towards
building a Type 4 until William=92s manual arrived. Now if I can get a =
certain
party in this area to part with one of the many vairs he has
I know what you mean there. Off the shelf items are off the planet price
wise. One could theoretically use the injection system off a V-6 Chevy =
on
the Corvair and reprogram it with one of those aftermarket black boxes.. =
but
that is theory, practice might be something else altogether. I think =
Way to go Ron I've personally been stuck between a Type 4 fuel injected =
and
supercharged and the Corvair. Looks like the vair will win out unless I =
fall
over a Type 4 cheap.
Doug
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Thanks Bev it wasn't meant as inflammatory but you know how old farts =
get. I
really enjoy the postings here and continue to learn something new every
day. You hit upon the only reason I posted in the first place, there are
some fellows on the Net that are either not pilots yet or are low time =
Mark I fail to see where that 40 pounds will make much difference in the
firewall area since the mount you have is six point (2 extra thru underside
of boat) unless very high G maneuvers are a common occurrence. What if
anything have the "Sube" guys been doing to their firewalls to accommodate
all
Point well taken Orma. The problem I had with this project however was =
that
it was built with the Subaru engine as powerplant of choice and this =
doesn't
turn my crank (no pun intended) at all. Too much weight and complicated
piping for horsepower output. Want to stay with direct drive and =
of
all things that would lend itself rather nicely for aerobatic usage.
Doug Rupert
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Mark the aluminum is nice but look at the manufacturing bit. Machined =
from
billet and 10 fins per inch verses standard 6 for increased cooling. =
Also no
cast iron insert since the heat transfer between the different metals =
does
in fact impede proper cooling. Their inside coating is a
Already do. I believe it's called Fadec on Lycoming engines but could be
wrong. Best check with one of the A's re this one.
Doug Rupert
How long will it be before we accept computer driven fuel injection in
airplanes?
Kevin.
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If you look at the Corvair mount designed my William Wynne and our very own
Mark Langford, that issue has been addressed for the tri-gear mount.
Doug
but have seen a tri-gear KR-2
tear the firewall out of the airframe on a hard landing.
-Jeff
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I've never seen the actual mount, only a picture in William's book in which
he stated that Mark and he had done the deed. Note the "L" bracket along
bottom of the firewall when using a nose gear. Don't shoot me for reading
PLEASE, been shot too many times already.
Doug
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Thanks for the clarification. I just re-checked the conversion manual =
and it
isn't in there, perhaps on his website. I know I saw that sketch as well =
as
the finished product somewhere. The picture showed a tube running back =
off
the mount to the lower center firewall area where a piece of
were
used as training bases for the reasons mentioned in earlier posts. Moffat
Field NAS still had one along with the old airship hangers in the 1960's.
Probably gone by now though.
Doug Rupert
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Just goes to show that it doesn't matter how much stick time you have,
no-one is immune to over extension of the aircraft's capabilities as =
well as
the pilot's.
Doug
Not KR, but back to crosswinds. One of the RV guys at my airport, knows =
and
fly's with the guy that flipped the RV. The guy
Thanks Joe, been a long time since I was there. In fact the last time they
still had a few airships in residence even though the base was mostly
populated by Crusader fighter/bombers.
Doug
On Behalf Of joe
Subject: Re: KR> Round Runways
Moffett NAS airship hangers(2) were still there a few
Well get them off the shelf and get building so I can get one of them Vair's
you been hording.
Doug
Gary
(my plans are still on the shelf)
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Still plenty of the old style blocks but newer ones are bringing top dollar.
Doug Rupert
.If you have tried to
find a corvair lately,you will find that the secret about the corvair is
out.It's getting hard to find a $50 or $100 engine anymore,everyone knows
what they are worth.
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