KR> Jabiru 3300 engine mount drawing wanted

[Willie van der Walt]

This is the reply I have been waiting for! Please give me a quote to 
manufature, as close to the fire wall as possible. I'll move the battery 
inside. The cg is foreward now with the 70 litre tank. Thanks Dene

Subject: Re: KR> Jabiru 3300 engine mount drawing wanted


 I have the KR firewall template and acccess to a jabiru case for 
manufacturing the mount.
Regards
Dene Collett
Avlec Projects cc
Port Elizabeth
South Africa

KR> Bye Bye 100LL/ Swift Fuel

[Lee Parker]

Swift said they could produce their fuel for $2.00 a gallon once they good 
geared up for full production.  That is about half what I am paying for 100LL.  
 They couldn't tell me when they planned to go full blast.  They did say they 
had sent two barrels to the FAA and they liked what they liked it.  I guess we 
will just have to wait and see.  I wouldn't hesitate to invest myself.

--- On Mon, 2/8/10, Larry Flesner  wrote:


From: Larry Flesner 
Subject: Re: KR> Bye Bye 100LL/ Swift Fuel
To: "KRnet" 
List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org
Date: Monday, February 8, 2010, 3:22 PM


At 02:34 PM 2/8/2010, you wrote:
>If I heard correctly, I believe the Swift fuel would cost about 
>$62.00 per gallon right now and that the quantiy that they have been 
>able to produce to this point is laughable (as in just a few 
>gallons) I think Swifts big goal right now is to sell shares of 
>stock to suckers !!
>
>Larry Howell
+++

I listened to the interview and never heard anything about $62 a 
gallon.  That might be what it's costing them for their "test" 
batches but they claim it should be comparable to 100LL when in full 
production.  They also claim it will increase your horse power by 
allowing you to advance timing by 2 or 3 degrees.  Personally, I hope 
they succeed.  If they do, I don't expect to see it on the market for 
3 to 5 years.  Also, if I heard correctly, they have produced a 4000 
gallon batch or two for running a test engine (a big one, 540ci or 
so) to TBO and check for wear.

Larry Flesner


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KR> Bye Bye 100LL/ Swift Fuel

[Larry H.]

Dan,
I took a look at the Swift Fuel web site.   

http://www.swiftenterprises.net/Swift%20Fuel.html

Hey it all sounds Wonderful to me. I wish for them  all the success they can 
achieve in their desired final product, who wouldn't? 

The information I gave in my earlier post was according to a fellow involved in 
the chemical industry who is involved with a alternative development group 
himself, maybe Swift for all I know. He sure is Very Aware of what is happening 
with the Swift Fuel people and their lack of capability to this point. I passed 
along his statements about them and what is going on with the development of 
alternative unleaded aircraft fuels, Not my thoughts. He was not hopeful at all 
that they were going to be successful. That is all I know about it. Also 
according to him I do not think they have been able to produce very many 
gallons to test to this point. I am fairly sure that the $62.00 per gallon 
figure is what he said it would cost for that fuel based on current mfg 
capability. According to him, Swift is planning to sell shares of stock. If he 
is a big liar, then I can't help it.
I did use the term laughable because according to this fellow they have only 
produced a few gallons so far. IF he is wrong then what can I say?

One more time, all of this is according to him, not me, so please do not accuse 
me, the messenger as being the Negative One. I have seen a lot of people come 
along in my adult life time with all kinds of Fantastic ideas that never panned 
out, we can just hope, right?

Larry Howell



From: Dan Heath 
To: KRnet 
Sent: Mon, February 8, 2010 4:40:22 PM
Subject: RE: KR> Bye Bye 100LL/ Swift Fuel


 I really thought that the
KRNetters were better than this.


Daniel R. Heath - Lexington, SC


Why is it that there always has to be someone who finds it necessary to be
negative even about something that could be so good?  I don't get it. 

KR> Bye Bye 100LL/ Swift Fuel

[Dan Heath]

Why is it that there always has to be someone who finds it necessary to be
negative even about something that could be so good?  I don't get it.  As
for the stock, I asked them, and they are not selling stock.  If they were,
I would buy as much of it as I could afford.  I really thought that the
KRNetters were better than this.

See N64KR at http://KRBuilder.org - Then click on the pics 
See you at the 2010 - KR Gathering in Richmond, Ky - I39
There is a time for building and a time for FLYING and the time for Flying
has begun.
Daniel R. Heath - Lexington, SC

-Original Message-

I believe the Swift fuel would cost about
>> $62.00 per gallon right now and that the quantiy that they have been
>> able to produce to this point is laughable (as in just a few
>> gallons) I think Swifts big goal right now is to sell shares of
>> stock to suckers !!

KR> Bye Bye 100LL/ Swift Fuel

[Ronald Piekaar]

Larry Howell,
Are you by any chance related to Harley Howell in Colville, WA?
Ron Piekaar
On Feb 8, 2010, at 1:23 PM,  wrote:

> At 02:34 PM 2/8/2010, you wrote:
>> If I heard correctly, I believe the Swift fuel would cost about
>> $62.00 per gallon right now and that the quantiy that they have been
>> able to produce to this point is laughable (as in just a few
>> gallons) I think Swifts big goal right now is to sell shares of
>> stock to suckers !!
>>
>> Larry Howell
> +++ 
> 
>
> I listened to the interview and never heard anything about $62 a
> gallon.  That might be what it's costing them for their "test"
> batches but they claim it should be comparable to 100LL when in full
> production.  They also claim it will increase your horse power by
> allowing you to advance timing by 2 or 3 degrees.  Personally, I hope
> they succeed.  If they do, I don't expect to see it on the market for
> 3 to 5 years.  Also, if I heard correctly, they have produced a 4000
> gallon batch or two for running a test engine (a big one, 540ci or
> so) to TBO and check for wear.
>
> Larry Flesner
>
>
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KR> Interesting flight

[John Martindale]

Seems appropriate given all the talk on auto fuel. It is not unusual for
Australians to do this out back when needing fuel. Just taxi up to the
bowser and walk across the road to the pub. John 


John Martindale
29 Jane Circuit
Toormina NSW 2452
AUSTRALIA

ph: 61 2 6658 4767 (H)
mob: 0403 432179
email: john_martind...@bigpond.com

-Original Message-
From: krnet-bounces+john_martindale=bigpond@mylist.net
[mailto:krnet-bounces+john_martindale=bigpond@mylist.net] On Behalf Of
Mark Langford
Sent: Monday, 8 February 2010 2:25 PM
To: KRnet
Subject: KR> Interesting flight

NetHeads, 

.. I've always wondered if I could land on a road, and now I know I can.
...

KR> Bye Bye 100LL/ Swift Fuel

[Larry Flesner]

At 02:34 PM 2/8/2010, you wrote:
>If I heard correctly, I believe the Swift fuel would cost about 
>$62.00 per gallon right now and that the quantiy that they have been 
>able to produce to this point is laughable (as in just a few 
>gallons) I think Swifts big goal right now is to sell shares of 
>stock to suckers !!
>
>Larry Howell
+++

I listened to the interview and never heard anything about $62 a 
gallon.  That might be what it's costing them for their "test" 
batches but they claim it should be comparable to 100LL when in full 
production.  They also claim it will increase your horse power by 
allowing you to advance timing by 2 or 3 degrees.  Personally, I hope 
they succeed.  If they do, I don't expect to see it on the market for 
3 to 5 years.  Also, if I heard correctly, they have produced a 4000 
gallon batch or two for running a test engine (a big one, 540ci or 
so) to TBO and check for wear.

Larry Flesner

KR> Bye Bye 100LL/ Swift Fuel

[Larry H.]

Funny that this subject has come up. At our last local EAA Chapter meeting one 
of our members who is a chemical engineer spoke on the subject of alternative 
fuels. Looks like what might be coming our way will be fuel that causes at the 
least a 5% drop in horsepower for our engines. He is involved with a group 
attempting to develop an alternative aviation fuel. He said there are 10 
refineries in our country that produce 100LL and that the total production is 
something like .02 percent of all fuel production. In other words producing 
100LL or any aviation fuel might just be a thorn in the side of most of them, 
then again if they can make enough money producing it, maybe they are happy 
doing it.
If I heard correctly, I believe the Swift fuel would cost about $62.00 per 
gallon right now and that the quantiy that they have been able to produce to 
this point is laughable (as in just a few gallons) I think Swifts big goal 
right now is to sell shares of stock to suckers !!

Larry Howell





Dan wrote:

>>There is some really good news about a replacement for 100LL, at this site.
>>The interview by AOPA, was very informative to me.



>>http://swiftenterprises.net/



>>Daniel R. Heath

Hey guys,
I signed up with swift this summer at OSH with the hopes of being part of a 
test group. This has not materialized nor does it appear that they are even 
close to being able to produce at any kind of quantity. They do send an email 
up date about every 6 weeks or so. The last information that they sent me 
indicated that they were still trying to get a refinery to try to ramp up and 
even then the quantities would be limited. They also talked about the FAA 
certification process although I don't remember the details my impression was 
that it was better than a year away at the very best. They also mentioned at 
that time that the initial costs may be more than the current costs of 100LL 
supposedly until they got to full production -- again i read into that that the 
cost and availability will not make it very desirable for a number of years. 
But, hey I've been wrong before. I may have the emails saved somewhere.
Joe Horton
Coopersburg, Pa.

KR> Jabiru 3300 engine mount drawing wanted

[Dene Collett]

Willie,
If you ordered a motor from Len you should get a CD with it. On the CD is 
the manual for the motor and installation instructions. Amongst the 
information is the dimensions for the part of the mount that mates with the 
motor. Once you have those it should be a simple matter of calculating how 
long the mount should be, make up a dummy firewall and position the motor 
ahead of it at the correct distance. Make sure of the thrust line and start 
cutting up some 4130 tubing. If you do not have a competent welder available 
give me a call. I have a guy rated and approved  by SAA to weld just about 
anything (4130, ally, inkaloy, titanium, stainless, etc) that makes up my 
mounts. I have the KR firewall template and acccess to a jabiru case for 
manufacturing the mount.
Regards
Dene Collett
Avlec Projects cc
Port Elizabeth
South Africa
- Original Message - 
From: "Willie van der Walt" 
To: "KRnet" 
Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 9:08 PM
Subject: KR> Jabiru 3300 engine mount drawing wanted


I ordered a Jabiru 120Hp and urgently need a drawing to manufacture an
engine mounting for a standard KR2. Please help.
Regards
Willie


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KR> Interesting flight

[Ed Janssen]

On a road? - sure you could.  :o)  Reminds me of the time when my Piper Colt 
needed an annual and the little town (about 1000 pop.) that the A (an old 
cropduster from way back) lived in didn't have an airport.  So he said "just 
land on the road there, north of town.  I'll park my truck at the top of the 
hill to block any traffic that might come along".  Huh??  Gee, I never did 
that before, I said - I wondered about the local police, but he said they 
"wouldn't care - just be careful taxiing over the railroad tracks".  So, I 
gave it a shot - had to dodge a few tree branches overhanging the road as I 
taxied through downtown to the delight of a few gawkers, but no other 
problems.  We did the annual, I taxied back through town and took off from 
the road, circled once, and headed home.

Ed Janssen



NetHeads,

I hit 850 hours on the plane today flying down to Hickory Mississippi to 
visit Gene Knight and see his project.  More on that later, but the 
interesting thing was that I've always wondered if I could land on a road, 
and now I know I can.  See
http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford/flights/10020711m.jpg for a more detailed 
look, and note that the Interstate is wider than the 16' wide runway!  It 
was a great trip though, and now I have a lot more confidence about my 
ability to land on a road if I had to...

Mark Langford

KR> Interesting flight

[Randy irons]

I also have never had to land on a road.  But I think the width wouldn't
be the issue.  If you look in your picture notice those 2 very LARGE
white things rolling along!

Randy


On Sun, 2010-02-07 at 21:24 -0600, Mark Langford wrote:
> NetHeads, 
> 
> I hit 850 hours on the plane today flying down to Hickory Mississippi to 
> visit Gene Knight and see his project.  More on that later, but the 
> interesting thing was that I've always wondered if I could land on a road, 
> and now I know I can.  See 
> http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford/flights/10020711m.jpg for a more detailed 
> look, and note that the Interstate is wider than the 16' wide runway!  It was 
> a great trip though, and now I have a lot more confidence about my ability to 
> land on a road if I had to...
> 
> Mark Langford
> N56ML "at" hiwaay.net
> website at http://www.N56ML.com 
> 
> 
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KR> kr2 model on ebay

[jack.cooper2009]

The picture shown in this ad looks like Bill Capps KR 

Jack 
- Original Message - 
From: "Dann Johnson"  
To: kr...@mylist.net 
Sent: Monday, February 8, 2010 4:23:37 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: KR> kr2 model on ebay 

Maybe this is old news, but i stumbled a cross a mdodel  
 a  KR-2S ? 

Ebay item 120058142248 


Copy on the ebay item read: 
RAND ROBINSON KR-2On June 1, 1974, the KR-2, a two seat version emerged into 
the world of experimental aviation with its maiden flight. The prototype KR-2, 
N4KR, was powered by an 1834cc Revmaster, which is an otherwise stock 1600cc VW 
with 99mm cylinders. This particular engine was a single ignition version and 
used a Bendix mag and a Posa carburetor. Revmaster gives the engine a 
continuous rating of 60 hp at 3000 rpms, which is on the conservative side. Ken 
Rand, the designer/builder, obtained cruise speeds of 180mph at 3200 rpm and 
airspeeds of 200mph at higher altitudes. 
KR-2 Specifications 

Dann 
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KR> kr2 model on ebay

[Dann Johnson]

Maybe this is old news, but i stumbled a cross a mdodel  
 a  KR-2S ?

Ebay item 120058142248


Copy on the ebay item read:
RAND ROBINSON KR-2On June 1, 1974, the KR-2, a two seat version emerged into 
the world of experimental aviation with its maiden flight. The prototype KR-2, 
N4KR, was powered by an 1834cc Revmaster, which is an otherwise stock 1600cc VW 
with 99mm cylinders. This particular engine was a single ignition version and 
used a Bendix mag and a Posa carburetor. Revmaster gives the engine a 
continuous rating of 60 hp at 3000 rpms, which is on the conservative side. Ken 
Rand, the designer/builder, obtained cruise speeds of 180mph at 3200 rpm and 
airspeeds of 200mph at higher altitudes.
KR-2 Specifications

Dann

KR> magneto for Surabu

[Pete]

Kirk,
I have no idea, but these guys could.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FlySoob/
It's a Yahoo group for people building aircraft with Subaru conversions.
Cheers.
Pete.
Australia

Kirk Lacewell wrote:
> Has anyone replaced the distributor on a Subaru engine with a magneto system?
>
> Is such a conversion kit available?
>
> Thanks,
> Kirk Lacewell