Re: KR> In-flight Fire

2017-01-29 Thread Chris Kinnaman via KRnet
Glad the pilot survived & hope he recovers fully and quickly. That's 
really scary.


Chris

On 1/29/2017 3:21 PM, Sid Wood via KRnet wrote:
Was planning for some air-to-air photos of N6242 this Spring.  An EAA 
Chapter member said he could fly the photo ship using his Tri-Pacer.  
On January 28, 2017, while attempting to return from a lunch fly-out 
at GED, Georgetown, DE, he had an in-flight fire seconds after leaving 
the runway.

Sid Wood
Tri-gear KR-2 N6242
Mechanicsville, MD, USA





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Re: KR> In-flight Fire

2017-01-29 Thread Larry Flesner via KRnet

At 06:18 PM 1/29/2017, you wrote:
Tripacer has fuel in wings. Â That was an 
electrical fire. 95% of in flight fires are not 
survivable whether fuel is in the header or wing.



It may have been electrical but what had the 
outcome been if there was a 16 gallon 
"fiberglass" tank behind the panel.  And in the 
case of a roll over / crash where airframes break 
in to pieces I don't want a fuel tank in close 
proximity or100LL soaking my cloths.  Seems like 
a very sudden and intense fire to injure the 
pilot as it did.  I hope they can figure out what 
happened and if they do, Sid, keep us posted.


In flight fires may be seldom survived but I hope 
to have improved my chances in a crash.  We each have our own comfort level.


Larry Flesner 



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Re: KR> In-flight Fire

2017-01-29 Thread Randy Smith via KRnet
Tripacer has fuel in wings.  That was an electrical fire. 95% of in flight 
fires are not survivable whether fuel is in the header or wing. I carry a small 
hellion fire extinguisher up front. I had a DME smoke a couple of weeks ago and 
my wife had the fire extinguisher out before I realized it. She pulled the pin 
before I stopped her. 

On Sunday, January 29, 2017 6:01 PM, Larry Flesner via KRnet 
 wrote:
 

 At 04:21 PM 1/29/2017, you wrote:
>Georgetown, DE, he had an in-flight fire seconds after leaving the runway.
+

That hits close to home having put 500 hours on the old TriPacer I 
had and reaffirms my decision to eliminate a header tank and put all 
fuel in the outboard wing tanks.

I wish your friend a speedy recovery.

Larry Flesner 


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Re: KR> engine progress

2017-01-29 Thread Paul Visk via KRnet
The way it's going Larry you'll be in contention for the firewall foward trophy 
in Lee Summit. 


Paul Visk Belleville Il.
618-406-4705
 Original message From: Larry Flesner via KRnet 
 Date: 1/29/17  2:59 PM  (GMT-06:00) To: 
krnet@list.krnet.org Cc: Larry Flesner  Subject: KR> 
engine progress 



I've spent the last several days cleaning and painting engine 
parts.  Progress, one piece at a time. I hope to be flying by March 1 
or I'll be out of money. :-(

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/32133949/20170129_110232.jpg

Larry Flesner


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Re: KR> In-flight Fire

2017-01-29 Thread Larry Flesner via KRnet

At 04:21 PM 1/29/2017, you wrote:

Georgetown, DE, he had an in-flight fire seconds after leaving the runway.

+

That hits close to home having put 500 hours on the old TriPacer I 
had and reaffirms my decision to eliminate a header tank and put all 
fuel in the outboard wing tanks.


I wish your friend a speedy recovery.

Larry Flesner 



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Re: KR> In-flight Fire

2017-01-29 Thread Tinyauto--- via KRnet
Well that is scary!  Lucky he didn't get to pattern altitude and then  
break out in flames.  Looks like the only thing salvageable would be the  
engine.  Thank goodness the guy will survive!
 
Kevin Golden
Streak Shadow
 
 
 
 
In a message dated 1/29/2017 4:21:37 P.M. Central Standard Time,  
krnet@list.krnet.org writes:

Was  planning for some air-to-air photos of N6242 this Spring.  An EAA  
Chapter member said he could fly the photo ship using his Tri-Pacer.   On 
January 28, 2017, while attempting to return from a lunch fly-out at  GED, 
Georgetown, DE, he had an in-flight fire seconds after leaving the  runway. 
He set it back down on the same runway and jumped out of the  Tri-Pacer 
while 
it was still rolling on the runway going about 30 miles  per hour.  He hit 
the pavement on his feet, but slammed into the  pavement face down.  He 
sustained a broken nose, broken bone on an  eye socket, throat and lung 
damage from inhaling smoke and flames, 1st and  2nd degree burns on his 
face 
and scalp. Appears he will recover from those  injuries; long term damage 
is 
unknown.  The Tri-pacer coasted to a  stop in the grass next to the runway 
fully engulfed in flames.  About  2 acres of dry grass also burned before 
the 
fire department put it  out.  The white stuff is foam from putting out the 
fire.  I  don't know any further info as to the cause.
Looks like the air-to-air  photo shoot will need to wait a bit  longer.
https://s3.amazonaws.com/expercraft/sidwood/1034235596588e630d62b66.jpg
https://s3.amazonaws.com/expercraft/sidwood/192404515588e630d67b24.jpg
https://s3.amazonaws.com/expercraft/sidwood/1088693266588e630d6a84c.jpg

Sid  Wood
Tri-gear KR-2 N6242
Mechanicsville, MD,  USA





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KR> In-flight Fire

2017-01-29 Thread Sid Wood via KRnet
Was planning for some air-to-air photos of N6242 this Spring.  An EAA 
Chapter member said he could fly the photo ship using his Tri-Pacer.  On 
January 28, 2017, while attempting to return from a lunch fly-out at GED, 
Georgetown, DE, he had an in-flight fire seconds after leaving the runway. 
He set it back down on the same runway and jumped out of the Tri-Pacer while 
it was still rolling on the runway going about 30 miles per hour.  He hit 
the pavement on his feet, but slammed into the pavement face down.  He 
sustained a broken nose, broken bone on an eye socket, throat and lung 
damage from inhaling smoke and flames, 1st and 2nd degree burns on his face 
and scalp. Appears he will recover from those injuries; long term damage is 
unknown.  The Tri-pacer coasted to a stop in the grass next to the runway 
fully engulfed in flames.  About 2 acres of dry grass also burned before the 
fire department put it out.  The white stuff is foam from putting out the 
fire.  I don't know any further info as to the cause.

Looks like the air-to-air photo shoot will need to wait a bit longer.
https://s3.amazonaws.com/expercraft/sidwood/1034235596588e630d62b66.jpg
https://s3.amazonaws.com/expercraft/sidwood/192404515588e630d67b24.jpg
https://s3.amazonaws.com/expercraft/sidwood/1088693266588e630d6a84c.jpg

Sid Wood
Tri-gear KR-2 N6242
Mechanicsville, MD, USA





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Re: KR> engine progress

2017-01-29 Thread Joe. E. Wallace via KRnet
Larry

You are going to have to fly that without a cowl just see all the pretty….. 
NICE JOB…jw

> On Jan 29, 2017, at 14:59, Larry Flesner via KRnet  
> wrote:
> 
> 


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Re: KR> AIRCRAFT INSPECTIONS

2017-01-29 Thread Larry Flesner via KRnet

At 03:15 PM 1/29/2017, you wrote:
He tells me what invariably happens is: He finds stuff that the 
builder has to correct.  So, he has to return weeks later for 
another inspection and finds stuff needing correction that the 
builder screwed up since his last visit.  That needs fixing, so then 
he has to come back a third time.  He complains "Haven't these guys 
ever heard about 41.13 or Tony Bengalis?"

++

My DAR found a couple of very minor items like a placard on the 
external canopy latch and the like.  He made a note in my log, as I 
recall, had me correct them, make a log entry of such, and send him a 
copy of the log page.  In was noted on the inspection that I was good 
to go after correction and log entry.  Your results may vary..


Larry Flesner 



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Re: KR> AIRCRAFT INSPECTIONS

2017-01-29 Thread Sid Wood via KRnet
Before my KR-2 airworthiness inspection, I had an A do a "practice" 
inspection.  He found a few minor things and I fixed these before he left. 
He never charged me anything.  He just wanted to crawl around a KR-2 for a 
nostalgia trip.  He had built a KR-2 some years ago.
I used the Washington FSDO for my KR-2 airworthiness inspection; actually 
two FSDO inspectors showed up to do the inspection.  They each wanted to do 
the inspection because they had never seen a KR-2 until I sent them the 
three-view pictures.
The DAR happens to be a member of our EAA Chapter.  He charges $500 per 
visit and goes all over the East coast.  He tells me what invariably happens 
is: He finds stuff that the builder has to correct.  So, he has to return 
weeks later for another inspection and finds stuff needing correction that 
the builder screwed up since his last visit.  That needs fixing, so then he 
has to come back a third time.  He complains "Haven't these guys ever heard 
about 41.13 or Tony Bengalis?"


Sid Wood
Tri-gear KR-2 N6242
Mechanicsville, MD, USA
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Sid, are you saying your DAR usually charges $1,500.00 for a sign off?
If so, he seems like he is taking advantage of you guys!!
Larry H


Our EAA Chapter has a member who is also a DAR.  He charges $500 per 
inspection visit and usually takes 3 visits.


Sid Wood






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From: Paul Visk <ppaul...@aol.com>
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Subject: KR> Progress!
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Finally the Rt.aileron is made. The counter wieght came out really well. 
?Once I got the lead melted I poured it into a wooden box that I made in 
about 2 minutes with my brad nailer. This weight was a little lite. ?So made 
it a little wider and it came out perfect.?



Paul Visk?Belleville Il.
618-406-4705
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KR> engine progress

2017-01-29 Thread Larry Flesner via KRnet




I've spent the last several days cleaning and painting engine 
parts.  Progress, one piece at a time. I hope to be flying by March 1 
or I'll be out of money. :-(


https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/32133949/20170129_110232.jpg

Larry Flesner


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KR> Progress!

2017-01-29 Thread Paul Visk via KRnet
Finally the Rt.aileron is made. The counter wieght came out really well.  Once 
I got the lead melted I poured it into a wooden box that I made in about 2 
minutes with my brad nailer. This weight was a little lite.  So made it a 
little wider and it came out perfect. 


Paul Visk Belleville Il.
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KR> Re AIRCRAFT INSPECTIONS

2017-01-29 Thread Larry via KRnet
Sid, are you saying your DAR usually charges $1,500.00 for a sign off?
If so, he seems like he is taking advantage of you guys!!
Larry H
> 
> Our EAA Chapter has a member who is also a DAR.  He charges $500 per 
> inspection visit and usually takes 3 visits.
> 
> Sid Wood
> 


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Re: KR> Melting lead

2017-01-29 Thread Paul Visk via KRnet
My wife says I've had it for years. 

Paul Visk Belleville Il.
618-406-4705
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》Lead poisoning sneaks up on you first as memory loss or lack of ability to 
》》》concentrate.
I think I have lead poisoning.
Joe Nunley Baker Florida 


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Re: KR> Melting lead

2017-01-29 Thread bjoenunley via KRnet
》Lead poisoning sneaks up on you first as memory loss or lack of ability to 
》》》concentrate.
I think I have lead poisoning.
Joe Nunley Baker Florida 


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