ave good control harmony.
Elevator "feedback" pressure is VERY light as it is.
Larry Flesner
the first flight on the day before I did the first flight on my KR.
Larry Flesner
truly fun machine to
>"play" with.
>Doug Rupert
>Simcoe Ontario.
++
Doug,
If that's what you're looking for and both project handle like my
KR, you won't be disappointed !!
How close are you to completion on either/both projects?
Larry Flesner
Doug,
Are you going to need someone to fly that "Spit" to the KR Gathering
someday? I think I could adjust my schedule to open a time slot
to help you out! :-)
Larry Flesner
sville, Alabama
I hope you guys don't leave me and my 0-200 powered "PIG" too
far behind! :-)
Larry Flesner
CG is usually
located in the forward portion of the wing would suggest a
relationship to the lead edge.
Larry Flesner
>Doug Rupert
++
Doug,
The credit for N56ML goes to Mark Langford, not me. :-)
Larry Flesner
o and any
tailwheel with approx a 200 pound rating should handle the load.
This is very unscientific but it's the best I can do.
Larry Flesner
el
with my SmartLevel the next time at the airport.
Larry Flesner
ide in a low pressure is going to give
you a good static source. The objective is to find a location
that is neither high or low pressure, hence the term "static"
pressure.
Larry Flesner
of the
"cheapies" found at the local discount auto parts store. I found
mine at an auto stereo shop.
And Dan, you should listen to Jerry, and Tony. :-)
Larry Flesner
setup seems to work
just fine for me. The only thing I'd add is keep the tubes at
least 2 1/2 to 3 inches below the wing surface and out of the
propeller slipstream or other "disturbed" air.
Larry Flesner
tailwheel arms are approx the same length as the rudder horns
and I don't notice any "transition" from tailwheel to rudder control
and back on T.O. or landing. I'm using a 4" steerable/full swivel
tailwheel unit and my KR drives just like a "real airplane" around
the ramp and hangar area. :-)
Larry Flesner
h me
left hand. I would guess that having a single center stick
would make this even more critical.
Given all that I just said, each time I shut down after a flight
I'm looking forward to going back up the next time. I hope
everyone has a much fun flying their KR as I'm having with mine.
Larry Flesner
'd hate to be riding with you if you
drop it in hard enough to break the tailwheel assy !!! :-)
Larry Flesner
that some are
using would be closer to what is needed. At 95 mph IAS on
climbout it was reading in the +8 degree range if that means
anything to anybody.
Two more days of laying tile and then it's KR time again!
YEE HAA..
Larry Flesner
At 03:24 PM 4/15/04 +0200, you wrote:
>At 155 indicated my KR, standard wing built to plans, appears to fly
>with the nose down at a -2 degrees.
>(Larry Flesner)
>
>Good info Larry - do you recall the elevator trim under those
>co
don't know. Maybe a mercury switch on a bi-metal
strip from another thermostat could be used to control a relay
and that control the heater if you need something higher. Alter
the assembly to work in the heat range you need, i.e., mount
it at an angle, bend something, etc. :-) :-)
Larry Flesner
e wing attach point.
I'm running a 60 inch prop and I'm not seeing any problems.
My only concern is that my gear is so wide that it will be
within 6 inch of the wheel pant when I get them mounted. I may
have to remove the pitot/static to get the pant on and off.
Larry Flesner
lass at the spar for some distance on one side,
clamped the trail edge at both ends and floxed. I then removed the
aileron and repaired the cut in the glass.
This procedure is only required for those builders that are dreaming
about flying the bird while they are building it. :-)
Larry Flesner
>>At 155 indicated my KR, standard wing built to plans, appears to fly
>>with the nose down at a -2 degrees.
>>(Larry Flesner)
>>
>>Good info Larry - do you recall the elevator trim under
eft main tire this morning and get in
some quality KR time. It's forcasted to be windy so maybe the
Tripacer will get some sun today. :-)
Larry Flesner
us a switch box $2 to mount it in. The kind you
suggested would be a whole lot easier to use.
Larry Flesner
th ends to match, floxed the cut and later reglassed.
Larry Flesner
me
scales that measured the 180mph cruise, the 350 feet T.O. and
900 feet landing distance ? :-)
Larry Flesner
d I had 3000 feet. Perhaps some
of the fliers that operate off grass more could jump in here. Anyone
operating on less than 1500 feet I'd like to hear about. I plan to
work on some shorter strip here soon.
Say hello to Bill. He used to fly his C-150 to the Gatherings. A real
trooper.
Larry Flesner
Different problems have different solutions and different answers. Some
might be fixable, some might not (glass coming off spar, re-do it!).
Larry Flesner
th my hour meter reading 40.2 !!!
Come on guys, get to building. There's fun to be had !!!!
Larry Flesner
P.S. I wish I had a standard KR2 narrowed down to a single place
with a hopped up Corvair cranking out about 120 hp. I bet I could
dust him good! :-)
. In all three cases you get
maybe +/- 1/16" of foam.
So, to answer your question, I'd say yes to the resin and weight
routine. Anything to get the glass to lay flat and bond to the
foam should work. A glass to structure (spar, fuselage, etc.)
bubble would be a whole different bag of worms.
Larry Flesner
At 10:47 AM 4/26/04 -0300, you wrote:
>Is it someting bad with the link ???or it is already sold ??...
>Danny
++
try the following:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem=63677=
2475624695=1=WDVW
Larry Flesner
arry A Capps
Were there reasons given for "not recommending" that process?
It seems to have worked quite well for me.
Larry Flesner
was an unacceptable process. Some of my glass
work is 10+ years old now and has 40 hours in the air with no
noticable problems.
Larry Flesner
s deep as the resin or slurry
penetrated. I would hold this same opinion even if some of
my glass work was not ten years old and still no defects, my
KR did not have 40 hours on it with 75+ takeoffs and landing,
flown in 35F weather and been to 7500 feet several times.
YOUR RESULTS MAY VARY. DO YOUR OWN TEST.
Larry Flesner
it side up and another on a painted surface. Can you tell what's
under the glass cloth without looking. Your process requires you
to "finish" two surfaces when only the top surface of the glass
needs to be finished smooth for paint.
As always, go with what makes you feel good and what works
for you.
Larry Flesner
d like to take out before he has a chance
to get airborne. :-) :-)
Larry Flesner
sconnects at the wing attach point.
Larry Flesner
apps
++++++++
So what keeps the micro balloons in the filler from falling out all over the
shop floor? :-)
Larry Flesner
++
>"Good judgment comes from bad experience, and a lot of that comes fr
n your epoxy/fiber layup cured you were ready for primer/paint.
I personally would not suggest "hard-shelling" as the method to cure
irregularities in the foam. The best way to eliminate irregularities in
the foam is with a new piece of foam.
Larry Flesner
ing the foam with whatever method
you chose and glassing it. How many KRs have flown before us using
that method and how many have fallen from the sky because of the
epoxy/fiber delaminating from the foam?
It's a beautiful morning out and I need to run by the hangar. I think I'll
take my ol' "hard
>few seconds.
>Steve J
+
Steve,
I think you're being an optimist if you think the test will bring an end to
anything but I'll do my best to try it on my next flight. It may be later
this weekend before my next flight as we have some weather moving
in.
Larry Flesner
each side, or should I say had
one on each side. I did replace it several weeks later when I got tired
of the glass falling on my head. :-) I doubt that even two of them would
be strong enough though for a forward hinged canopy.
Larry Flesner
etter measure. I'll let you interpret the results and whatever it is
I'm sure there will be opinions to the contrary. The only opinion that
can't be argued with is my opinion on how much fun I'm having flying
my KR !! :-) 41.1hours and counting..
Larry Flesner
>
>As I brought the power back the nose simply dropped.
>Larry Flesner
+++
I guess I should have given some additional info. My KR is
basiclly plans built except it is 24"s longer than plans.
I was probably in the mid C.G.rang
the whole range of
possibilities from one extreem to the other will not make a 3 to 5 mph
difference in the outcome. Throw in the new wing and you've
changed the game.
This is all too much to contemplate! I need a "flight fix"!! :-)
Larry Flesner
racing paper. :-)
Larry Flesner
ants but I running
at 2600rpm so I'm probably getting 90 hp at cruise.
Ken's 180mph cruise was up high with a VW turbo and a claimed
480 lbs empty wt. To my knowledge, no one else in the history of
the KR2 has made such optimistic claims. That doesn't mean the
"average" KR isn't a show stopper. I'm having a ball in mine.
Larry Flesner
ng done.
42.7 HOURS AND LOVIN' IT !!!
Larry Flesner
ne sweet bird. In 500 hours I've
never had to cancel a flight or been left stranded anywhere because
of mechanical reasons. I'll sure miss her if sold and can only hope
my KR is that dependable. Look how many great KR air shots
she has given us to enjoy.
Larry Flesner
t's
about what I expected.
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KR. I'm just giving that
impression to project an image. I hope I don't forget to pick up the
leather cap and white scarf at the cleaners this morning. I can't
let the fellows at the airport see me in just a baseball cap ! :-))
Larry Flesner
I really can't tell any noticable difference in the
way my KR handles at any fuel load other than the extra weight.
Larry Flesner
>Larry
>Don't let them talk you into testing your crash restraint!;-)
+
That's one system that each builder has to do their own testing
or lack of testing on. If I ever test mine it will not be voluntary!!
Larry Flener
At 05:14 PM 5/4/04 -0400, you wrote:
>Use 400/600 wet, chordwise strokes. Miniture wing fences, Virg
>==
Anyone silly enough to sand their wing would probably try flying
without a motor too. Ha...:-)
Larry Flesner
e day and 47 hours total. I've probably
flown my KR more in four months than some KR's fly in a lifetime!
I need to make some log entries and hit my first airshow this
weekend. YEE HAA
Larry Flesner
or anything? :-) I think I'll need considerable practice before entering
any spot landing contest. I did hit the runway both times so maybe
there's hope.
Larry Flesner
ly a KR 2 , plans built, with a 24" stretch. I did modify it
considerably from the top longerons up for more head room, the
fuel system is non-standard, and lots of little things that have nothing
to do with your question.
Larry Flesner
understandable. I'd sure love to
have one of those babies in my KR to replace the 0-200. I'd bet
I could give a few RV's a run for their money !!!
Larry Flesner
projects.
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the mold using clips and the entire unit was placed
in the oven. It took maybe 200 F to get the flat plate to start to
droop. At that point I removed it from the oven and formed it over
the mold wearing soft cloth gloves. I held it in place for a minute
of two as it cooled. Presto, lenses!!
Larry Flesner
roach.
The fact that my brake has only one attach point for the pushrod
that deployes it and that is offset from the center by approx 5 or
6 inches should give you some idea of it's strength. I built a small
ramp of foam and glass on the belly to fare the lead edge of the brake.
Larry Flesner
~langford/flesner/17.jpg (C-150 flap motor
used to actuate)
Larry Flesner
or 1.4 oz (deck
cloth) advertised in Wick's and it worked quite well. It will radius
the corners if necessary. The weave is so fine you can basiclly
start with primer.
Larry Flesner
n the fuselage
bottom on a piece of plastic, and contoured to match the bottom
of the fuselage. Contour the edges and build an air ramp at the
lead edge and you (or the air) can hardly tell it's there.
Have I mentioned it's LIGHT also.....
Larry Flesner
ost
likely will run out of fuel before you run out of battery. The failure of
a 20 amp or 60 amp alternator puts you in the same lifeboat.
As always, your results may vary..
Larry Flesner
built.
My "uneducated"guess is that I'd want it behind the center of lift
and C.G for stability reasons. I can't see any reason that trigear
or Diehl wing skins would make any difference.
Larry Flesner
is having a picnic at a private grass strip today.
We're having bar-b-que, beans and slaw from a national champion!
KR FLYING, BAR-B-QUE, GRASS STRIP...SOMEBODY
PINCH ME !!
Larry Flesner
wish I'd gotten a bit longer prop.
Larry Flesner
, although I believe that Larry Flesner used extended legs with
>good results. Larry? Care to comment?
>
++
Jeff Scott and I both have a set of the 30" Diehl gear legs and to my
knowledge neither of us have had any problems. I did add appro
n inspect or lubricate my
bolts/hinges without any problems.
Larry Flesner
light at all C.G.
locations for me but it has yet to feel over sensitive.
Larry Flesner
At 01:10 AM 5/18/04 -0400, you wrote:
>Larry: How long is your control stick?
>Doug Rupert
I don't have that measurement handy so I'll have to check the
next time I'm at the hangar. In the mean time you can go to
uld
just give us the answer. I did a quick search on the web and
looked in the Tony Bingalis books but no luck.
Larry Flesner
out fine and as much fun as building was it's
a whole lot more fun flying !!! :-)
Larry Flesner
>
>RE: any web pages containing pictures of other peoples KR-1's being built
>
++=
Is this what you're looking for?
http://www.twocom.com/billskr/
Larry Flesner
bble" at just the time when you need it.
Larry Flesner
>Tried to load the video (got the pix with links attached) but only got
>pages of letters,numbers and symbols...any ideas?
>Bernie McLean.
+++
I guess some of us (I have a slow modem) will have to
wait for the book to come out. :
and each passenger has to make an entry after
a flight in his airplane. I'm in there somewhere. My daughter started
my diary today and I hope to fill the book before I quit.
YEE HAA.....
Larry Flesner
ish my KR was
100 pounds lighter and I was getting another 20 hp from my 0-200.
Even the boys "down under" would hear my YEE HAA's then. :-)
56 hours and counting
Larry Flesner
ne of mine. I did the wrap, used a couple small screws, and then
put a piece of clear packing tape over the joint.
Larry Flesner [ 50+ hours in 3 1/2 months and still grinning :-) ]
So, I'm claiming the spot next to Langford. The rest of you fight
it out. :-)
Larry Flesner
ip. You may have to consider some method
of increasing your gear leg length.
Larry Flesner
I'm officially laying claim to having the first 4 place KR. My daughter
is expecting twins in November and I took the three of them flying
last weekend. Somebody pinch me, please...
Larry Flesner
My KR is a 24" stretch with standard KR2 tail surfaces and an 0-200
engine. I have the standard KR wing less 4 inches on each tip. The longer
wings on KR's with the premolded skins should do better in the climb area.
Most KR pilots with a "standard" KR2 advise staying out of the last 2 inches
of the CG range.
Larry Flesner
the two pieces. I added several additional glue blocks
in that area to help with the 0-200 I'm using.
Larry Flesner
++
I think other posts have pretty much answered you concern. I've had fuel
in my tanks continously for over six months now with no problem. The
only thing I've noticed is the Mogas seems to make the rubber gaskets
on my fuel caps swell when exposed. Make sure you don't get fuel with
alcohol a
point
where the belt crosses you lap you won't get a very good vertical
restraint. Just my "non-engineered" opinion.
Larry Flesner
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hind the point
where the belt crosses you lap you won't get a very good vertical
restraint. Just my "non-engineered" opinion.
Larry Flesner
h bolt holding each end of the belt to the bracket.
And Phil, the wires make for VERY easy installation and removal. :-)
66 hours total !!! 60 hours since the middle of February.
Larry Flesner
er Bancks.
+ + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +
Your max takeoff weight is reduced only if you don't have enough
POWER to drag the aircraft into the air. Longer wings should help
the climb rate and the penalty for the longer wings will be felt primarily
in the cruise mode and is probably not more than a few miles
per hour.
Larr
weight in the first place.
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weight in the first place.
Larry Flesner
ittings.
As I stated in my earlier post:
" Longer wings should help
the climb rate and the penalty for the longer wings will be felt primarily
in the cruise mode and is probably not more than a few miles
per hour."
If if's a hot day or high altitude and I had to chose between longer
wings or more power I'll take more power every time. My "more
power" fix is really just an engine that would produce the same hp
at 6000 feet (or whatever) that a smaller engine would produce at
sea level, i.e. a 100hp 0-200 or Corvair instead of an 80 hp VW.
I'd bet anyone a steak dinner that you will find more "high hp"
Cessnas then "long wing" Cessnas flying in the mountains. :-) :-)
Larry Flesner
those.
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her of those.
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s from near center of the rear spar to the forward spar
at the fuselage sides. Thoughts?
Larry Flesner
Has anyone posted to the net lately only to have the post disappear
into cyber space? I've had two in as many days now.
Larry Flesner
f I ever hit an oak tree instead of the pine tree you described, I hope
someone remembers to check my seat belt attach brackets. :-)
Larry Flesner
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d/flesner/taxi.jpg
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coming quite
versed on the "pucker factors". :-)
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ome.hiwaay.net/~langford/flesner/taxi.jpg
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