KR> O-200

[Gary]

Thanks to all respondents.  Another method I found on the WWW was to remove 
the oil filter and back fill from there.  With a little extra in the filter, 
I hand turned the prop until I had oil flow from the oil pressure line. 
With everything put back together, cranked the starter motor and bingo, 
plenty of oil pressure.  Installed spark plugs and had first engine start on 
Saturday.

Regards,
Gary

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Gary said; "Any of you guys with O-200 engine have knowledge of how to start 
up after rebuild?  Is there a ?pre-oil? procedure?"
On the a65 we removed the oil cooler port plug, used vynal tubing and a 
funnel to gavity feed enough oil to prime the oil pump.
I hope that helps
Joe Nunley CW2 US Army RetiredBaker JROTC Instructor Baker Florida
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KR> O-200

[Jeff Scott]

The O-200 oil pump usually won't prime turning on the starter and takes nearly 
forever to prime at an idle.  You can idle the engine right up to damaging the 
bearings and still may not get oil pressure.  If you want to pre-oil the 
engine, the technique Mike describes works pretty well, and is a really good 
thing to do if you don't know how the engine was lubed when it was assembled.  
If I have had the engine apart and lost the prime on the oil pump, just a few 
seconds at 1500 rpm is enough for it to pick up it's prime again.  

When assembling any aircraft engine, I use a generous amount of Lubriplate 
Assembly Lube on all bearing, seal, and contact surfaces.  The exception is the 
cam lobes and cam followers, which get a coating of black moly cam break-in 
grease on the contact faces.  The Lubriplate grease will stay in place if the 
engine gets stored for a few years, and will protect the bearings and surfaces 
during startup until the oil pump primes and starts providing oil pressure.

The oil cooler mount is where the after market spin on oil filter mounts to the 
engine on the back left side of the case.  If you have neither, there is a 
small bypass plate mounted there on 3 studs.
?
Jeff Scott
Los Alamos, NM
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Sent:?Saturday, April 30, 2016 at 7:40 AM
From:?"Mike Sylvester via KRnet" 
To:?KRnet 
Cc:?"Mike Sylvester" 
Subject:?Re: KR> O-200
I never could get my O-200 to self prime, I had left the spark plugs out to 
take the pressure off of the rod bearings and to make her easy to spin over but 
she just would not pick up the oil. I finally pulled the side plate where the 
filter mounts and poured oil in the top hole until it would not take any more. 
I think that I even turned the prop backwards to make sure that it would enter 
the pump. I then put the plate back on. This worked, I had oil pressure. PS, It 
takes a lot of oil, you have to back fill the screen cavity.

Mike Sylvester
kr2s builder
Birmingham,AL.
Cell no.205-966-3854



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Subject: Re: KR> O-200

OK. Thank you. Now to find the oil cooler port plug.

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> up after rebuild? Is there a ?pre-oil? procedure?"
> On the a65 we removed the oil cooler port plug, used vynal tubing and a 
> funnel to gavity feed enough oil to prime the oil pump.
> I hope that helps
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KR> O-200

[Robert Pesak]

I primed my O200 buy removing the oil temp bulb, pick up a barbed fitting 
attach a plastic line to pressure container and apply ?about 5psi.?inject any 
were from 1/4to1/2 quart of oil is plenty to prime oil pump. DON'T FORGET TO 
REINSTALL TEMP PROBE!! 

On Friday, April 29, 2016 10:06 PM, Gary via KRnet  wrote:


 Any of you guys with O-200 engine have knowledge of how to start up after 
rebuild?? Is there a ?pre-oil? procedure?

Thanks,
Gary
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KR> O-200

[Mike Sylvester]

I never could get my O-200 to self prime, I had left the spark plugs out to 
take the pressure off of the rod bearings and to make her easy to spin over but 
she just would not pick up the oil. I finally pulled the side plate where the 
filter mounts and poured oil in the top hole until it would not take any more. 
I think that I even turned the prop backwards to make sure that it would enter 
the pump. I then put the plate back on. This worked, I had oil pressure. PS, It 
takes a lot of oil, you have to back fill the screen cavity.

Mike Sylvester
kr2s builder
Birmingham,AL.
Cell no.205-966-3854


From: KRnet  on behalf of Gary Hamilton via 
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OK. Thank you.  Now to find the oil cooler port plug.

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> up after rebuild?  Is there a ?pre-oil? procedure?"
> On the a65 we removed the oil cooler port plug, used vynal tubing and a 
> funnel to gavity feed enough oil to prime the oil pump.
> I hope that helps
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KR> O-200

[svd]

Hi Gary,

Assuming new rings and at least newly honed cylinders (if not new cylinders), 
then:

Engine should have straight mineral oil for the first 10hrs.
Ignition OFF
Pull one plug from each cylinder.
Spin by hand, (will pump oil thought engine)
Replace plugs and run?  
Worst part is its pretty important to run at more than 75% power for the first 
~1-4 hours.  (Not entirely compatible with testing out a new plane too!  But 
the high power (and temp) is important in seating the rings. If you baby it, 
the rings may never seat.)  Watch for oil consumption to drop and cylinder head 
temps to drop - then you?ll know the rings are seated. I?d replace the mineral 
oil at 5 and 10 hours, and replace with something like Aeroshell 100.

The which oil conversation seems one of the strongest breezes flapping aviation 
gums out there.  
I?m no expert, but I have read that most oils start breaking down very close to 
~450F.  Seems like everything goes to hell about there.   High temps around the 
exhaust valve stems cause a lot of problems, compound by oil breakdown.  

I?m a sucker for technical mumbo-jumbo marketing info and some time ago Castrol 
Aviator 100AD used to market their oils as having a higher breakdown temp than 
Aeroshell.   I have no idea, but I tend to get the Castrol when I can find it.


Cheers,
Owen

KR> O-200

[Gary Hamilton]

OK. Thank you.  Now to find the oil cooler port plug.

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> 
> 
> Gary said; "Any of you guys with O-200 engine have knowledge of how to start 
> up after rebuild?  Is there a ?pre-oil? procedure?"
> On the a65 we removed the oil cooler port plug, used vynal tubing and a 
> funnel to gavity feed enough oil to prime the oil pump.
> I hope that helps 
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KR> O-200

[bjoenunley]

Gary said; "Any of you guys with O-200 engine have knowledge of how to start up 
after rebuild?? Is there a ?pre-oil? procedure?"
On the a65 we removed the oil cooler port plug, used vynal tubing and a funnel 
to gavity feed enough oil to prime the oil pump.
I hope that helps?
Joe Nunley?CW2 US Army RetiredBaker JROTC Instructor?Baker Florida?

KR> O-200

[Gary]

Any of you guys with O-200 engine have knowledge of how to start up after 
rebuild?  Is there a ?pre-oil? procedure?

Thanks,
Gary

KR> O 200

[Randy Smith]

 There are a couple of Con ?O200 engines?on Barnstormers. Look a couple of 
pages in on Experimental.? From past experience you will speed about $6000 for 
just about any engine you pick. I tried 4 VW engines 1 Con 85?and I finally 
installed an?O200. Should have down that in the beginning.?

KR> O-200

[laser147 at juno.com]

Nice engine.  

The KR was designed for a VW though . . . and sure have been a lot of us
that have had great good luck with the chugger.  Whether with GP or
Revmaster, keep the oil and cylinder head temps under control and they
run reliably and forever.  Parts are inexpensive.  The best single key to
running them cool is not so much perfect baffling and a big oil cooler -
although these help.  The best single key to running a VW in such a way
that it will fun forever without problems is simply to keep the RPM
between 2900 and 3200.  Heat is the killer.

Some of the nicest KR's have the 0-200 though.  Troy Pettaway's, Larry
Flesner's, Jeff Scott's  . . . who am I forgetting?

Mark's immaculate installation of his Corvair always has me drooling when
I go through his pictures.  

I think Dan Heath still has an almost brand new fully-converted Corvair
with all the trimmings for sale, keep in mind.  

Just some engine thoughts.   You can't go wrong with a Type 1 if you run
it as Steve Bennett recommended.  It's an amazing little engine.  Type IV
would seem to be even better - but as with all the other choices, cost
becomes more of a factor.  

Mike
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KR> O-200 for sale

[brian.kraut at eamanufacturing.com]

I have a friend that has an O-200 for sale.  This engine was
professionally overhauled and has zero time since overhaul.  I am told
that most parts were replaced with new parts, not just reconditioned.  I
think he was asking about $12K, but call him for details.  He is also
selling a very nice Midget Mustang project and a brand new Stratomaster
Enigma.  Contact Milford Shirley at 904-333-1098.  Engine is near
Jacksonville, FL.  I am just posting this for him so don't contact me.  

KR> O-200 exhaust flanges

[Phillip Matheson]

Tom the email most likely go to your junk mail file, mine do and I have to 
add them to my secure list ,that fixes the problem.

Phil.

-Original Message- 
From: craneman11 at juno.com
Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2013 7:52 AM
To: Krnet at list.krnet.org
Subject: KR> O-200 exhaust flanges

Larry,
   I think I will take you up on your offer as I probably won't start the 
project until after the gathering anyway. Please let me know what I can do 
for you. I'd like to give you something for this. Thank you very much.
   I have one more question if anybody can help me out. How is it that 
before I ever even see my question on the forum it's already answered? Is 
this posted somewhere else before I get the emails?
Thanks for all your help.

Tom

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KR> O-200 exhaust flanges

[craneman11 at juno.com]

Larry,
   I think I will take you up on your offer as I probably won't start the 
project until after the gathering anyway. Please let me know what I can do for 
you. I'd like to give you something for this. Thank you very much.
   I have one more question if anybody can help me out. How is it that before I 
ever even see my question on the forum it's already answered? Is this posted 
somewhere else before I get the emails?
Thanks for all your help.

Tom

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KR> O-200 exhaust flanges

[Larry Flesner]

>  How is it that before I ever even see my question on the forum 
> it's already answered?
++


Hey,  we're just good !!!  What else can I say.

Larry Flesner

KR> O-200 exhaust flanges

[brian.kraut at eamanufacturing.com]

   When I did the exhaust for my Midget Mustang I bought all my parts from
   Custom Aircraft Parts.  [1]http://www.customaircraft.com/

    Original Message 
   Subject: KR> O-200 exhaust flanges
   From: "[2]craneman11 at juno.com" <[3]craneman11 at juno.com>
   Date: Tue, September 03, 2013 7:15 pm
   To: [4]krnet at list.krnet.org
   Can anyone tell me where to find the exhaust flanges for a Continental
   O-200? I'd like to build a new exhaust but can't seem to find them
   anywhere.
   I'm looking forward to meeting all of you at the gathering.
   Tom
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KR> O-200 exhaust flanges

[Larry Flesner]

>Can anyone tell me where to find the exhaust flanges for a 
>Continental O-200?  I'd like to build a new exhaust but can't seem 
>to find them anywhere.
>I'm looking forward to meeting all of you at the 
>gathering.
>Tom
+

Go with a 4 tube exhaust over a 2 into 1 on each side.  The 
difference in performance is quite noticeable.  I think I have four 
flanges with a short ( 3 inch ? ) pipe on them in my hangar I'd give 
you at the Gathering but that's still a month off.

Larry Flesner

KR> : O 200 on KR 2 S

[Larry Flesner]

>It' my intention to fit the O 200 on my KR 2 S.
>   Has somebody a suggestion to modify the oil tank so they not 
> interfere with the lower cowlig?
>   Thanks
>   Franco Bucci
++

Great choice of engines.  The oil tank is not so much a problem as 
the carburetor and intake.  The oil tank requires only few inches of 
drop in the lower cowl.  If the cowl is already fabricated, just 
remove material until it will mount to the airframe and then 
reconstruct to clear the tank and 
carburetor.  http://www.krnet.org/krs/lflesner/101009203m.jpg  The 
extra bump in the cowl is well worth the small penalty for the 
reliability you get from keeping the engine setup as stock and 
reliable as possible.  My 0-200 is stock, the way it came the C-150, 
and has not given me a single maintenance issue in 475 hours to date 
on the carb or intake area.

Larry Flesner

KR> O-200-8 for sale

[Jeff Scott]

One important thing to keep in mind when buying an O-200 is how many times the 
crank has been ground. ?There is a limit of two grinds at .010" each. ?I had an 
engine that already had the crank ground twice and had a worn crank that was 
giving low oil pressure due to the excessive bearing clearance. ?If it had 
another grind left it would have been something like $500 for a magnaflux, 
grind, and new bearings, but since it had been ground twice it required a new 
crank for over $2,000. ?(going on my best memory of prices several years ago, 
might be off, but you get the idea) ?Used cranks that are serviceable are hard 
to come by and expensive on the O-200 since new cranks are not available for 
the C-85 and lots of the remaining O-200 cranks are used up in C-85 to O-200 
conversions.

That also brings up another very good option of using a C-85 with the O-200 
crank. ?That makes and engine with the power of the O-200, but the weight of 
the C-85.
---

The costs have gone up a bit. ?Last time I checked a new O-200 crank was up to 
$3300. Regrinding, nitriding, cad plating the flange, and new bearings runs 
somewhere around $700 - $750. The -.020 bearing set is kind of pricey as well 
if you're down to the last grind. ?

One thing to remember about using the C-85 as the core to build an O-200 is 
that you would also want to change the camshaft to make the same HP as an 
O-200. ?The C-85 cam has a shorter duration and is designed for a lower RPM 
than the O-200 cam. ?I flew my KR behind a stock C-85 for it's first 350 hours. 
?It's a good engine. ?With the O-200 crank and pistons, it does produce more 
torque and is a desirable upgrade to the C-85, but unless you change the cam, 
it's not quite the same thing.

Craig's O-200 is a great candidate for a Cub, Champ, or T-craft project as the 
-8 non-electric version of the engine is highly desirable for those planes. 
?However, it is not a desirable engine for the KRs due to the lack of 
electrics. ?The Lycoming ring gear and starter are a work around that could be 
implemented, but the engine really isn't configured to mount the starter up 
front and the prop bushings should be swapped out for a longer set of bushings 
to support the ring gear if they are available. ?Hand propping a KR can be 
done, but is less than ideal due to the short stature of the KR, which leaves 
you bending over into the prop when it starts. ?I have propped mine a number of 
times when the battery was down. ?Even though I have owned a number of hand 
propped planes and have twisted props on just about every GA engine out there, 
I am really uncomfortable propping the KR due to the reason cited above.

-Jeff Scott
Los Alamos, NM

KR> O-200-8 for sale

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KR> O-200-8 for sale

[Adam Tippin]

That's good. Then when im ready, I can shoot for one.
On May 8, 2013 6:49 PM, "Randy Smith"  wrote:

> $4500. on Barnstormers
>
>
>
>
> 
> From: Craig Williams 
> To: KRnet 
> Sent: Wed, May 8, 2013 5:42:27 PM
> Subject: Re: KR> O-200-8 for sale
>
> It varies but half of the value here is in the extras.  The engine is in
> Martinsburg, WV
>
>
>
> 
> From: Adam Tippin 
> To: KRnet 
> Sent: Wednesday, May 8, 2013 6:33 PM
> Subject: Re: KR> O-200-8 for sale
>
>
> What's the going rate for an O-200?
> On May 8, 2013 4:35 PM,  wrote:
>
> > Craig,
> > Where are you located?  I am in Tulsa, OK and I'd like an O-200 to play
> > with.
> > Mike Ladigo
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KR> O-200 cost?

[Larry Flesner]

At 05:49 PM 5/8/2013, you wrote:
>$4500. on Barnstormers
+++

Never use a single ad as a guide to what an engine is worth.  The 
price on any given 0-200 can vary by $10,000 high to low.  The low 
end is a run out engine with worn out accessories and the high end is 
a complete overhaul from a reliable shop.  You can spend several 
thousand dollars just replacing or rebuilding missing or worn out 
accessories.  Watch the market for months, checking out every engine 
for sale, comparing total time, accessories, condition, and 
accessories and their condition.  When it comes to $800 cylinders 
(each), carbs, starters, etc, a good deal might turn into a boat 
anchor in a heart beat.

Larry Flesner

KR> O-200-8 for sale

[Craig Williams]

It varies but half of the value here is in the extras.? The engine is in 
Martinsburg, WV




 From: Adam Tippin 
To: KRnet  
Sent: Wednesday, May 8, 2013 6:33 PM
Subject: Re: KR> O-200-8 for sale


What's the going rate for an O-200?
On May 8, 2013 4:35 PM,  wrote:

> Craig,
> Where are you located?? I am in Tulsa, OK and I'd like an O-200 to play
> with.
> Mike Ladigo
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KR> O-200-8 for sale

[Jeff Carney]

Looking to re-power my KR2.  Would like an 0-200 or 0-235.  Can anyone help.  
Currently flying behind an 1835 VW.
Tanks Jeff

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On May 8, 2013, at 8:52 AM, Craig Williams  wrote:

> 
> 
> 
> I am buying a PA22-108 with an O-235 that will be replaced with an 
> O-320 soon.  Gonna put the O-235 in my KR so I don't need the O-200 ...I 
> bought this from a gentleman that bought it at an estate sale, I have NO 
> Logs, pistons are shinny which seems to indicate it's been apart 
> already.  It was sealed.  I opened 
> and re-fogged the motor and re-sealed,  turns over easy. Has the -8 STC 
> completed so I planned on installing a Lycoming flywheel and starter.  
> Those are included in the sale.  Also comes with 2 Bendix S6RN-23 mags, 
> new harnesses, SS exhaust system,  new Ellison EFS-3A TBI unit, 3"prop 
> extention,  prop flange runout checks good,  Warp Drive 3 bladed HP hub, 
> manuals and misc other items.  Pictures are on my website @ 
> 
> 
> http://kr2seafury.com/6.html
> 
> Craig
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KR> O-200-8 for sale

[Craig Williams]

I am buying a PA22-108 with an O-235 that will be replaced with an 
O-320 soon.? Gonna put the O-235 in my KR so I don't need the O-200 ...I 
bought this from a gentleman that bought it at an estate sale, I have NO Logs, 
pistons are shinny which seems to indicate it's been apart 
already.? It was sealed.? I opened 
and re-fogged the motor and re-sealed,? turns over easy. Has the -8 STC 
completed so I planned on installing a Lycoming flywheel and starter.? 
Those are included in the sale.? Also comes with 2 Bendix S6RN-23 mags, 
new harnesses, SS exhaust system,? new Ellison EFS-3A TBI unit, 3"prop 
extention,? prop flange runout checks good,? Warp Drive 3 bladed HP hub, 
manuals and misc other items.? Pictures are on my website @ 


http://kr2seafury.com/6.html

Craig

KR> O-200 piston.

[Mike Sylvester]

Hello everyone, I am in need of an Continental o-200 or c90 piston with the 
number  530348 on the inside. A used one would be good and if not, I'll just 
have to order a new one. This piston has two notches in the top opposite the 
pin to help identify it. Thanks. 

Mike Sylvester 
kr2s builder 
Birmingham,AL.

Cell no.205-966-3854  

KR> O-200 questoin

[pk.sm...@bigpond.net.au]

The sender unit that came with my Dynon was exactly the right fit, no reducer 
required. Check to find their sources.

Paul. (Brisbane, Australia)
=

rkp...@comcast.net wrote: 
I need the reducer for the sending unit. Anyone know where I can get one? 

KR> O-200 questoin

[Tim]

look for tube thread not pipe thread...thread pitch is closer & 
straight/square.CldLk-Tim


At 03:07 PM 11/28/2010, you wrote:
>I need the reducer for the sending unit.
++

Any chance you could pick up a brass fitting (reducer) at the
hardware or auto parts store?

Larry Flesner

KR> O-200 questoin

[Larry Flesner]

At 03:07 PM 11/28/2010, you wrote:
>I need the reducer for the sending unit.
++

Any chance you could pick up a brass fitting (reducer) at the 
hardware or auto parts store?

Larry Flesner

KR> O-200 questoin

[rkp...@comcast.net]

Hi Everyone, 

The question I have is in regards to the oil temperature senders. I need the 
reducer for the sending unit. Anyone know where I can get one? The one Wicks 
sells is with the sender for a Mitchell oil temp gauge, not sure if it will 
work on my ISS gauge. Any help will be appreciated. 

Robert Pesak 

Hermitage, Tn. 

http://photobucket.com/robertskrs 

KR> O-200 engines for sale

[Jeff Scott]

KR Builders,

I have a pair of O-200 engines for sale.  These are 0 SMOH bottom ends, 
currently with no cylinders or accessories.  Engine #1 is eligible for 
installation on a certificated aircraft and meets new standards with the 
crankshaft ground to -.010.

Engine #2 is Experimental only.  I have no serial number for it, so the data 
plate will be stamped EXPERIMENTAL.  Also, there was some small amount of 
pitting on the prop side of the crank flange that we dressed out.  The pitting 
was deep enough that the crank is on the margin for what could be ground out 
and still pass a yellow tag inspection.  The crank is ground -.020 and meets 
specs in every other regard.  I do not consider it to be unsafe and would fly 
behind it in my plane if I had a need for another O-200.  

I have a set of rebuildable cylinders that we can overhaul and install on 
either of these engines for $2500, or install a set of new cylinders.  Both of 
these engines have no accessories, but I do have some used accessories 
available.

Engine #1 is priced at $5000.  With a new set of cylinders (roughly $3500 + 
$200 for me to install), one could own a certified O-200 meeting new specs less 
accessories for 0 SMOH for $8700. 

Engine #2 is priced at $4000.  With the set of repairable cylinders I have here 
overhauled and installed, one could have an experimental O-200 with 0 SMOH less 
accessories for $6500.

For more information on these engines, see my engine web pages at 


If interested, email me at .  I will not be responding 
to an O-200 discussion on the KRNet, so please do not blast the KRNet with 
questions regarding these engines.  I need to get these engines sold to fund 
the completion of the Super Cub project that you'll see in the background of 
the pictures on the web pages.  

Best regards,

-Jeff Scott
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KR> O 200 engine mount for KR 2 S

[Randy irons]

Paul, I'd like a copy of those drawings if possible.

Randy
randy.ir...@comcast.net

On Tue, 2010-01-19 at 18:31 +1000, Paul & Karen Smith wrote:
> Franco, I have O-200 drawings for KR-2s
> Would you like me to send to your e-mail address?
> 
> Paul Smith
> Brisbane, AUSTRALIA
> pk.sm...@bigpond.net.au
> http://kr2spacemodulator.blogspot.com/
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> An alternative solution are drawings to built my self.
> 
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KR> Re: KR O-200 in Barnstormers.

[garya...@kwic.com]

Re: KR> O-200 in Barnstormers.
 


Greg Dart resides near Lake Erie and is just next to Penn near Chattaqua Lake 
(nice country) NW NY State. He has a small airstrip and has owned a Vj22 Volmer 
and has a Cub ( last I heard) He is a knowlegeable guy and would have the info. 
As always 'caveat emptor'   Hey this is from a Canadian who loves this part of 
your country and hope to travel more and see a lot of the rest.




Gary


 


 


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From: Jeff Scott 

Subject: Re: KR> O-200 in Barnstormers.



Reread the my previous post. I ran across this ad on barnstormers.com and know 
nothing about it beyond what's in the ad. It is located somewhere in NY. An 
O-200 Continental is nominally 100 HP. I would suggest having the owner scan 
the last few years of logs and all of the overhaul information as well as 
sending a few pictures if it piques your interest.



Jeff Scott

Los Alamos, NM

KR> O-200 in Barnstormers.

[Jeff Scott]

Reread the my previous post.  I ran across this ad on barnstormers.com and know 
nothing about it beyond what's in the ad.  It is located somewhere in NY.  An 
O-200 Continental is nominally 100 HP.  I would suggest having the owner scan 
the last few years of logs and all of the overhaul information as well as 
sending a few pictures if it piques your interest.

Jeff Scott
Los Alamos, NM


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KR> O-200 in Barnstormers.

[indef...@aol.com]

Where are you located?  I'm in northern CA.  I'd like to take a  look at your 
engine.  How much horsepower?

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KR> O-200 in Barnstormers.

[Ron Vogt]

Hey Boys:
  For those of you who want a more modern engine, I've got a Subaru EJ-22 
with  a Les Palmer PSRU for sale.  It has a total of 55 hours on it and runs 
great.  It is a little heavier than an O-200, but it has some very positive 
aspects to it.  I'm asking $3,500.

Ron
(805) 455-7085> From: jscott.pi...@juno.com> Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 14:53:37 
+> To: kr...@mylist.net> Subject: KR> O-200 in Barnstormers.> > Don't know 
anything about this specific engine, but it might be worth looking over if 
you're in that part of the country. $5500 for a freshly overhauled engine would 
pique my curiosity. It's undoubtedly a field overhaul, so I would read through 
the logs very closely to see what wasn't done, but it could also be a great 
buy.> > Jeff Scott> > > > CONTINENTAL 0-200-A EXP. ? AVAILABLE FOR SALE 
? continental 0-200-a experimental 1 hour s.m.o.h. $5500. trades considered ? 
DART AIRPORT ? Contact Greg Dart located Mayville, NY USA ? Telephone: 
716-753-2160 716-397-0790 ? > > 
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KR> O-200 in Barnstormers.

[Jeff Scott]

Don't know anything about this specific engine, but it might be worth looking 
over if you're in that part of the country.  $5500 for a freshly overhauled 
engine would pique my curiosity.  It's undoubtedly a field overhaul, so I would 
read through the logs very closely to see what wasn't done, but it could also 
be a great buy.

Jeff Scott



CONTINENTAL 0-200-A EXP. • AVAILABLE FOR SALE • continental 0-200-a 
experimental 1 hour s.m.o.h. $5500. trades considered • DART AIRPORT  • Contact 
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KR> O-200 parts needed

[Brian Kraut]

I am in need of a servicable crankshaft and a set of tappet bodies for an
O-200.  I might also be in the market for other O-200 parts or a whole run
out engine.  If anyone has anything send me an email at br...@engalt.com.
Prop strikes need not apply.

Brian Kraut
Engineering Alternatives, Inc.
www.engalt.com

KR> O-200 parts needed

[Dan Heath]

Brian,

Are you having to rebuild the engine on the Mustang? 

See N64KR at http://KRBuilder.org - Then click on the pics 
See you in Mt. Vernon - 2006 - KR Gathering
There is a time for building and a time for FLYING and the time for building
is OVER.
Daniel R. Heath - Lexington, SC
---Original Message---

From: Brian Kraut
List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org
Date: 06/23/06 21:52:54
To: KRnet
Subject: KR> O-200 parts needed

I am in need of a servicable crankshaft and a set of tappet bodies for an
O-200.  I might also be in the market for other O-200 parts or a whole run
out engine.  If anyone has anything send me an email at br...@engalt.com.
Prop strikes need not apply.

Brian Kraut
Engineering Alternatives, Inc.
www.engalt.com


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KR> O-200 parts needed

[Dana Overall]

Brain, go to my website under O360 kit engines.  I am pulling together all 
parts and selling kit engines to the RV community.  I can also do the same 
for O200's for the KR crowd.  Just as a hint as to price, I sell a fully 
yellow tagged O360 constant speed kit with new jugs and yellow tagged 
constant speed prop and gov for around 16K.  Just new prop and gov sell for 
about 7K so you can see the price savings.

Dana Overall
1999 & 2000 National KR Gathering host
Richmond, KY i39
RV-7 slider, Imron black, "Black Magic"
O 360 A1A, C/S C2YK-1BF/F7666A4
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>From: "Brian Kraut" <brian.kr...@engalt.com>
>Reply-To: KRnet <kr...@mylist.net>
>To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net>
>Subject: KR> O-200 parts needed
>Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 21:52:18 -0400
>
>I am in need of a servicable crankshaft and a set of tappet bodies for an
>O-200.  I might also be in the market for other O-200 parts or a whole run
>out engine.  If anyone has anything send me an email at br...@engalt.com.
>Prop strikes need not apply.
>
>Brian Kraut
>Engineering Alternatives, Inc.
>www.engalt.com
>
>
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KR> O-200 parts needed

[Brian Kraut]

People keep emailing to ask if I had a prop strike.  I just found a real
good deal on an overhauled case and I have a friend giving me a bunch of
other parts free.  While I can get the deal on the case I was going to build
another engine then swap it with the one on the Mustang and overhaul that
one when I have time.  The oil pressure is getting low and I don't want to
just take that one off and be down for a month or two while I rebuild it.

Brian Kraut
Engineering Alternatives, Inc.
www.engalt.com

-Original Message-
From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net]On
Behalf Of Dan Heath
Sent: Saturday, June 24, 2006 6:27 AM
To: kr...@mylist.net
Subject: Re: KR> O-200 parts needed


Brian,

Are you having to rebuild the engine on the Mustang?

See N64KR at http://KRBuilder.org - Then click on the pics
See you in Mt. Vernon - 2006 - KR Gathering
There is a time for building and a time for FLYING and the time for building
is OVER.
Daniel R. Heath - Lexington, SC
---Original Message---

From: Brian Kraut
List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org
Date: 06/23/06 21:52:54
To: KRnet
Subject: KR> O-200 parts needed

I am in need of a servicable crankshaft and a set of tappet bodies for an
O-200.  I might also be in the market for other O-200 parts or a whole run
out engine.  If anyone has anything send me an email at br...@engalt.com.
Prop strikes need not apply.

Brian Kraut
Engineering Alternatives, Inc.
www.engalt.com


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KR> O-200 oil tank

[Oscar Zuniga]

I think I'd go with Option No. 1 that Larry Flesner posted... use the 
smaller (4 qt.) oil sump and keep on going with your cowling.  I have an 
A-65 on my Pietenpol and it has a 4 qt. sump.  I believe they all 
interchange on the small Continentals but the point is, 6 or more quarts are 
unnecessary unless you're trying to do some oil cooling via the sump or 
you're doing some transoceanic/endurance flying.

Minimum operating oil level is 2 qts. on these engines and if you check oil 
level before every flight and have a decently tight engine, it will take a 
heck of a long time to blow out or burn two quarts.  And if it's spraying 
onto your windshield or into your cockpit, that's two less quarts of mess 
you'll need to clean out ;o)

Oscar Zuniga
San Antonio, TX
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KR> O-200 EGT

[Brian Kraut]

Does anyone else with an O-200 notice that the EGT gets about 100 degrees
hotter when throttled back than at full throttle?  I have noticed that when
I cruise at my normal altitude around 9,000' at full throttle (about 65%
power) that my peak EGT is a little over 1,400 degrees.  If I just pull the
throttle back to 3/4 or 1/2 it goes up around 1,500.  I have not determined
yet if the carb is just leaning out in the mid range or if it is just normal
to have hotter EGTs in the mid range.

Brian Kraut
Engineering Alternatives, Inc.
www.engalt.com

KR> O-200 EGT

[Larry Flesner]

At 09:55 PM 11/24/2005, you wrote:
>Does anyone else with an O-200 notice that the EGT gets about 100 degrees
>hotter when throttled back than at full throttle?
>Brian Kraut
++

My EGT usually runs in the 1300 to 1400 range but stays pretty
steady, depending on the mixture setting and not the throttle
setting.

Larry Flesner

KR> O-200 EGT

[Mark Langford]

Brian Kraut wrote:

I don't know Jack about 0-200 engines, but I do know that many (if not most)
aircraft carbs are set up to enrich the mixture at full throttle for
detonation resistance during takeoff.  That's my guess.  It probably depends
on your exact carburetor more than anything else.

Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama
see KR2S project N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford
email to N56ML "at" hiwaay.net
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KR> O-200 EGT

[jscott.pi...@juno.com]

On Fri, 25 Nov 2005 09:15:54 -0600 "Mark Langford" 
writes:
> 
> Brian Kraut wrote:
> 
> I don't know Jack about 0-200 engines, but I do know that many (if  not
most)
> aircraft carbs are set up to enrich the mixture at full throttle  for
> detonation resistance during takeoff.  That's my guess.  It probably 
depends
> on your exact carburetor more than anything else.
> 
> Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama
> see KR2S project N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford
> email to N56ML "at" hiwaay.net
> --

The stock Facet (Marvel Scheibler) MA-3SPA carb is set up to enrichen the
mixture at full throttle to augment cooling and, as Mark said, to help
prevent detonation.  The EGTs on my O-200 also drop at full throttle. 
Since I fly high altitude all the time (including take off), I always
lean for best performance.  When I reduce from full throttle, the engine
will run a little bit rough until I enrichen the mixture a bit.

Jeff Scott
N1213W - Los Alamos, NM

KR> O-200 EGT

[Brian Kraut]

I realize that the carb is a little richer at full throttle, but I can lean
to a higher peak EGT at half throttle than I can at full throttle.

Brian Kraut
Engineering Alternatives, Inc.
www.engalt.com

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Behalf Of jscott.pi...@juno.com
Sent: Friday, November 25, 2005 7:03 PM
To: kr...@mylist.net
Subject: Re: KR> O-200 EGT



On Fri, 25 Nov 2005 09:15:54 -0600 "Mark Langford" <n5...@hiwaay.net>
writes:
>
> Brian Kraut wrote:
>
> I don't know Jack about 0-200 engines, but I do know that many (if  not
most)
> aircraft carbs are set up to enrich the mixture at full throttle  for
> detonation resistance during takeoff.  That's my guess.  It probably
depends
> on your exact carburetor more than anything else.
>
> Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama
> see KR2S project N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford
> email to N56ML "at" hiwaay.net
> --

The stock Facet (Marvel Scheibler) MA-3SPA carb is set up to enrichen the
mixture at full throttle to augment cooling and, as Mark said, to help
prevent detonation.  The EGTs on my O-200 also drop at full throttle.
Since I fly high altitude all the time (including take off), I always
lean for best performance.  When I reduce from full throttle, the engine
will run a little bit rough until I enrichen the mixture a bit.

Jeff Scott
N1213W - Los Alamos, NM

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KR> O-200 instrument markings

[Brian Kraut]

I have been trying with no luck to find the correct engine instrument
markings to use on an O-200.  I know the oil temp and pressure and CHT red
lines from the service manual, but I don't know where to start and end the
yellow and green arcs, actually it has been a while since I have flown a
powered plane and I can't remember if I need yellow arcs.   I know this is
an item that will stop the DAR cold so if anyone knows what to use let me
know.

I did find some Cessna 150 instrument panel pictures on the net, but they
just have the arcs with no corresponding numbers I can use.  Perhaps the
numbers are in a 150 manual if someone has one handy.

Brian Kraut
Engineering Alternatives, Inc.
www.engalt.com

KR> O-200 instrument markings

[Orma]

Hello Brian
Perhaps there is a C150 owners group on the net that you could ask.

Orma

KR> O-200 instrument markings

[Kevin Jarvis]

Brian,

The correct limits will be listed on the Type Certificate Data Sheets.  
You will find that information here:

http://www.airweb.faa.gov/Regulatory_and_Guidance_Library/rgMakeModel.nsf/MainFrame?OpenFrameSet

It takes awhile to dig this information out, so be patient.  No one in a 
Cessna 150 Users group can tell you that they have the "100% correct" 
information unless they are quoting the TCDS, but this is what was used 
when the engine was certified.

Kevin

KR> O-200 instrument markings

[Kenneth B. Jones]

Brian,

Following is from a 1970 C-150 Owner's Manual.

Oil pressure
10 psi - red line
30-60 psi - green arc
100 psi - red line

Oil temp:
Values not defined for green arc
225 F - red line

Tach:
Sea level 2000-2550 - inner green arc
5000 ft 2000-2650 - middle green arc
1 ft   2000-2750 - outer green arc
max allowable2750 - red line

CHT & EGT not mentioned.

Ken Jones, kenbjo...@cinci.rr.com
Sharonville, OH
N5834, aka The Porkopolis Flying Pig


- Original Message - 
From: "Brian Kraut" 

>I have been trying with no luck to find the correct engine instrument
> markings to use on an O-200.  I know the oil temp and pressure and CHT red
> lines from the service manual, but I don't know where to start and end the
> yellow and green arcs, actually it has been a while since I have flown a
> powered plane and I can't remember if I need yellow arcs. 

KR> O-200 instrument markings

[Allen Wiesner]

For the 1973 C-150L manual that I have, the markings for the O-200-A are:

Oil Pressure:
Minimum Idling10 psi (red line)
Normal Operating Range  30 - 60 psi (green arc)
Maximum100 psi (red line)

Oil Temperature Gage:
Normal Operating Range  Green Arc (that's all it says, 
honest)
Maximum Allowable 240 degrees F (red line)

Fuel Quantity Indicators:
Empty   E  (red line)

Tachometer:
Normal Operating Range:
At sea level2000 - 2550 RPM (inner 
green arc)
At 5000 feet  2000 - 2650 RPM (middle 
green arc)
At 10,000 feet   2000 - 2750 RPM (outer 
green arc)
Maximum Allowable  2750 RPM (red line)

Suction Gage (Gyro System):
Normal Operating Range4.6 - 5.4 in. Hg (green arc)

There are also several airspeed markings, but I assume that those would not 
apply for your usage.

Allen G. Wiesner  KR-2SS/TD S/N 1118
65 Franklin Street
Ansonia, CT  06401-1240

(203) 732-0508

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KR> O-200 lean cylinder

[Brian Kraut]

I need to choose which cylinder to put the EGT on an O-200A.  I know that a
the EGT should go on the leanest cylinder and on a lot models of engines the
lean cylinder is usually the same on all of them.  Does the O-200 have one
that normally runs leaner?

Brian Kraut
Engineering Alternatives, Inc.
www.engalt.com

KR> O-200 lean cylinder

[jscott.pi...@juno.com]

On Sun, 3 Oct 2004 22:06:28 -0400 "Brian Kraut" 
writes:
> I need to choose which cylinder to put the EGT on an O-200A.  I know 
that a
> the EGT should go on the leanest cylinder and on a lot models of 
engines the
> lean cylinder is usually the same on all of them.  Does the O-200  have
one
> that normally runs leaner?
> 
> Brian Kraut
> Engineering Alternatives, Inc.
> www.engalt.com

#2 has the hottest EGT on mine, but they seem to run so evenly that they
all react the same to minor changes in mxture or throttle.  The main
difference in mine is related to not quite equal distances from the
exhaust ports of my probes due to design limitations in my exhaust.

Jeff Scott


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KR> O-200 stub exhausts

[Brian Kraut]

Someone told me that short stub exhasts only on an O-200 will ruin the
valves prematurely.  He said I should put on real 2 into 1 exhasts.  Anyone
have any comments on this?

Brian Kraut
Engineering Alternatives, Inc.
www.engalt.com

KR> O-200 stub exhausts

[Mark Langford]

> Someone told me that short stub exhasts only on an O-200 will ruin the
> valves prematurely.  He said I should put on real 2 into 1 exhasts.
Anyone
> have any comments on this?

I don't know about 0-200 engines in particular, but that's conventional
wisdom on engines in general.

And yes, I'm working.  I just have a computer in "plane" sight.  Rudder is
now working, cable is adjusted, and tailwheel will be shortly.  This is
getting pretty cool...

Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama
N56ML "at" hiwaay.net
see KR2S project at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford

KR>:O-200 Question

[larry flesner]

>On the O-200 I had the exhaust valve guide was busted up. This could cause 
>you low compression. How about the oil temp? Is it ok? On mine it was fine
in 
>humid air or in the winter months.
>Chris Theroux 
+

My oil pressure is "by the book" at 40 pounds hot, 60+ on a
cold start.  My temp will not quite reach 180 even after 30
minutes in the air so.  My cylinder head temp is around
300F after climbout and set up in cruise so I think I have
a basicly sound engine with a good setup (cowl, cooling,etc.)

I got two lengthly posts from two very knowledgeable people and
if they would give me their permission I'd like to share the info
with the group.  They know who the are and I think they both
have given me info that will solve my problem.

Right now my prop is rolling down the interstate to Florida to
Ed Sterba's house to be repitched from a 68D to a 64D.  I hope
to get at least 200 more rpm for takeoff and climbout and with
the extra rpm on top end my cruise should hold or even improve.
I'll use the downtime to "tweek" the engine and probably go
out to exercise the Tripacer. :-)

I hope everyone has a very Merry Christmas or a very happy
holiday season for whatever holiday you are celebrating.

Larry Flesner
Carterville, Illinois