KR> Rand Robinson Engineering: patience

2009-12-17 Thread Glenn Martin
Emory Luth wrote: > Steve Glover of nVaero is now distributing the KR plans and parts. I am > sure > The main nVaero website can be found at: www.*nvaero*.com. > > I looked at the new web site and it seems Steve is off to a good start. I would not worry about getting the plans from

KR> Rand Robinson Engineering

2009-12-17 Thread Steve Glover
Hi Jim, I just spoke with Jeanette. She said she will be shipping them out tomorrow. Regards, Steve Glover www.nvaero.com --Original Message-- From: lureloc...@aol.com Sender: krnet-boun...@mylist.net To: KR Net ReplyTo: KR Net Subject: Re: KR> Rand Robinson Engineering Sent: Dec

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2009-12-17 Thread Emory Luth
Larry Flesner said: Sorry I don't have his web address but he is on the net and will reply with > the necessary info. > Jim (and others interested in plans): Steve Glover of nVaero is now distributing the KR plans and parts. I am sure Steve will quickly take care of your situation now that he

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2009-12-17 Thread Darren Crompton
Sorry I don't have his web address but he is on the net and will reply with the necessary info. > > http://stores.homestead.com/hstrial-eglover3/-strse-Books-and-Videos/Categories.bok Cheers -- Darren Crompton AUSTRALIA My building site: www.kr-2s.com AN-BOLTS www.an-bolts.com.au

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2009-12-17 Thread lureloc...@aol.com
Thanks Larry, Hope you are right Jim Wright , Spring Hill FL

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2009-12-17 Thread Larry Flesner
At 05:15 PM 12/17/2009, you wrote: >Hi Folks > Does any one know what's going on with Rand Robinson? >Jim Wright, Spring Hill Florida + I'm guessing your plans will show up soon. The process is very slow with Rand Robinson

KR> Rand Robinson Engineering, no contact.

2009-10-23 Thread Dubi Gefen
net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net] On Behalf Of Gunnar Olsen Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 10:28 PM To: KRnet Subject: KR> Rand Robinson Engineering, no contact. I try to reach Rand Robinson Engineering for buying a set of KR-2S plans, but get no answer on neither fax nor phone. Any suggestions

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2009-10-22 Thread Pete
Ron, Hundreds of KR's have been completed with virtually no "factory" support at all. It's one of the reasons KRnet exists. For the most part, WE are the "factory" support, since we are the closest thing you'll come to a KR "factory". Steve is doing a lot towards getting all the fragmented

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2009-10-21 Thread Todd Price
Cool Steve it will be good to see what you will have to offer. Todd Price Chandler, AZ On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 8:43 AM, Stephen Glover wrote: > Hello Ron, > > I am sorry you have not been able to contact RR. Jeanette is in somewhat > of > a transition right now with some

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2009-10-21 Thread Stephen Glover
Hello Ron, I am sorry you have not been able to contact RR. Jeanette is in somewhat of a transition right now with some personal items. Our company is now providing authorized factory support and is producing all components for the KR series of aircraft. If you need anything, please don't

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2009-10-21 Thread close...@earthlink.net
n <gun...@online.no> > To: KRnet <kr...@mylist.net> > Date: 10/20/2009 8:28:14 PM > Subject: KR> Rand Robinson Engineering, no contact. > > I try to reach Rand Robinson Engineering for buying a set of KR-2S > plans, but get no answer on neither fax nor phone

KR> Rand Robinson Engineering, no contact.

2009-10-20 Thread Phillip Matheson
Gunnar. As we tell all of our new members, just post a cheque, and you will get them in the mail. If you spent weeks trying to call, then that will be extra weeks of waiting. What was the movie, build it and they will come--- well post a cheque for them and they will come. good luck. Phil

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2009-10-20 Thread Gunnar Olsen
I try to reach Rand Robinson Engineering for buying a set of KR-2S plans, but get no answer on neither fax nor phone. Any suggestions anyone ? Thanks. Gunnar

KR>Rand/Robinson Engineering

2008-10-12 Thread Wayne Israelsen
The station wagon still exists we just call it an SUV. Rings a bell doesn't it? . Trust me, you could CAD draw one, supply wonderful > drawings and advertise the fire out of it for less than the counter offer. > > Neat idea but so was the station wagon. > > > Dana Overall > 1999 & 2000 National

KR>Rand/Robinson Engineering--Assumption of Liability

2008-10-12 Thread Max Hardberger
Regarding the assumption of "25 years of liability," and without offering legal advice, one would assume that if a company wanted to buy the rights to sell the plans to the KR series, and to build kits to these plans, the company would not "buy" Rand-Robinson Engineering, but would instead buy

KR>Rand/Robinson Engineering--Assumption of Liability

2008-10-12 Thread joe
, March 09, 2004 1:34 PM Subject: Re: KR>Rand/Robinson Engineering--Assumption of Liability > Regarding the assumption of "25 years of liability," and without offering > legal advice, one would assume that if a company wanted to buy the rights to > sell the plans to the KR s

KR>Rand/Robinson Engineering--Assumption of Liability

2008-10-12 Thread joe
earthlink.net> To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net> Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2004 2:44 PM Subject: Re: KR>Rand/Robinson Engineering--Assumption of Liability > There never is a connection between the previous manufacturer; plan seller > or material supplier only to the >

KR>Rand/Robinson Engineering--Assumption of Liability

2008-10-12 Thread Max Hardberger
the very real possibility of losing his shirt. > - Original Message - > From: "joe" <feg...@earthlink.net> > To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net> > Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2004 2:44 PM > Subject: Re: KR>Rand/Robinson Engineering--Assumption of Liability > >

KR>Rand/Robinson Engineering--Assumption of Liability

2008-10-12 Thread joe
Excuse me, I didn't realize a possible test in court is not allowed. - Original Message - From: "Max Hardberger" <mhardber...@admiraltyassociates.com> To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net> Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2004 3:19 PM Subject: Re: KR>Rand/Robinson E

KR>Rand/Robinson Engineering--Assumption of Liability

2008-10-12 Thread joe
Beech was sued for 6million and lost. ref: seat problem - Original Message - From: "Max Hardberger" <mhardber...@admiraltyassociates.com> To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net> Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2004 3:19 PM Subject: Re: KR>Rand/Robinson Engineering--As

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2008-10-12 Thread Jim Faughn
I've wondered why Jeanette wasn't interested in the possible sale/transfer or whatever you would want to call it, of the business. After all the plane is a good design, there are people that would like to help and many other reasons that I could see. In addition to the mention of an offer

KR>Rand/Robinson Engineering

2008-10-12 Thread Dana Overall
>From: "Jim Faughn" lets agree on 25,000 per year. Next, given the best financial >advice I've read and heard, you would figure that you should only plan >on your investment's in the near future earning between 6 & 7%. So what >figure would it take to earn 25,000 per year? I

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2008-10-12 Thread Jim Faughn
Dana, Excellent point on what it should be worth vs. what she probably thinks it is worth. Jim >From: "Jim Faughn" lets agree on 25,000 per year. Next, given the best financial >advice I've read and heard, you would figure that you should only plan >on your investment's in

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2008-10-12 Thread Ron Eason
..@socket.net> To: "'KRnet'" <kr...@mylist.net> Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2004 8:49 PM Subject: RE: KR>Rand/Robinson Engineering > I've wondered why Jeanette wasn't interested in the possible > sale/transfer or whatever you would want to call it, of the busines

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2008-10-12 Thread intrepid...@juno.com
> "Jim Faughn" writes: > I've wondered why Jeanette wasn't interested in the possible > sale/transfer or whatever you would want to call it, of the > business. --(snip)-- > can make the assumption that the profit in the worst case > is in the range of $20-30,000. Next figure

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2008-10-12 Thread joe
id...@juno.com> To: <kr...@mylist.net> Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2004 7:59 PM Subject: Re: KR>Rand/Robinson Engineering > > "Jim Faughn" <jfau...@socket.net> writes: > > I've wondered why Jeanette wasn't interested in the possible > > sale/transfe

KR>Rand/Robinson Engineering - Perceived Worth

2008-10-12 Thread Dan Heath
Many of us have offered to assist Jeanette, free of charge. I think that we already do all that she wants anyone to do. Maybe all of this has everything to do with what the KR means to her. It is hard for us to walk in her shoes. It may very well be, that it has very little to do with material

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2008-10-12 Thread Peter Waijenberg
Ron wrote: >The more we, as a group fly our planes to gatherings and public places >the better we sustain the KR enterprise for her, which is good for her >and the people fabricating KR parts. Just don't loose the faith, the >KR will survive. In the one hand I agree with you but in the other I

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2008-10-12 Thread Ray Fuenzalida
Agree with this analysis. The value of a business is a factor of its net cash income. Maybe she is just afraid someone will not manage it properly and thus degrade the memory of Ken. You never know. Jim Faughn wrote: Dana, Excellent point on what it should be worth vs.

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2008-10-12 Thread Mark Langford
The deal that we offered her was that we would take over the business and proceed to improve the plans and grow it as we saw fit, while still paying her what she had averaged for the previous five years, and she was no longer required to work. We offered her five years of that (and were prepared

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2008-10-12 Thread Paolo Cavazzuti
Hi everybody, just my thought about this: Dan Heath wrote "It may very well be, that it has very little to do with material wealth..." And Peter Waijenberg wrote "In the one hand I agree with you but in the other I say the best is to let the company go bankrupt..." First of all a word of

KR>Rand/Robinson Engineering - Perceived Worth

2008-10-12 Thread Ron Eason
I think your right. Ron - Original Message - From: "Dan Heath" <da...@alltel.net> To: <kr...@mylist.net> Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2004 5:15 AM Subject: RE: KR>Rand/Robinson Engineering - Perceived Worth Many of us have offered to assist Jeanette, free o

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2008-10-12 Thread Ron Eason
You don't go bankrupt with all the account payable invoices paid. She has no overhead cost because she is operating out of her residence and her own labor is free. One of the reasons she has cut back on appearances at flyins is the cash flow {sales of plans}. She operates on a cash basis [ like

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2008-10-12 Thread Ron Eason
> Dr. Dean and I tried to sell her TET wing attach fittings for the same price > we were selling them on KRnet. She said that was actually less than she was > paying for them (from Ken Brock, I believe), and she expressed some interest > in them, but we never heard anything else about them. In

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2008-10-12 Thread Bob Stone
r...@mylist.net> Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2004 10:58 AM Subject: Re: KR>Rand/Robinson Engineering > You don't go bankrupt with all the account payable invoices paid. She has > no overhead cost because she is operating out of her residence and her own > labor is free. One of

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2008-10-12 Thread Peter Waijenberg
>She is not selling many plans because of the way she >treats existing builders. Both builders and non >builders who have a problem or are interested in >building and write to her never get an answer. Her >not apearing at fly-in's with a display of what she >has to sell is only making things

KR>Rand/Robinson Engineering

2008-10-12 Thread Bob Stone
Since it is becoming more and more obvious that Mrs. Rand is not much interested in her business, have any of you guys who are on the KRNet and show the most interest in the KR line of aircraft ever thought of making her an offer to buy the company. I know there are people on the KRNet

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2008-10-12 Thread Mark Langford
Bob Stone wrote: >> have any of you guys who are on the KRNet and show the most interest in the KR line of aircraft ever thought of making her an offer to buy the company<< Dr. Dean and I did exactly that about four years ago. Gave it a lot of thought, came up with a plan, flew out to

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2008-10-12 Thread Dana Overall
>From: "Mark Langford" Dr. Dean and I did exactly that about four years ago. Gave it a lot of thought, came up with a plan, flew out to California, and made her an offer over lunch. I thought we made her an offer that she couldn't refuse, but it turns out she thought it was worth about 10 times

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2008-10-12 Thread Bob Stone
-molded parts. Bob Stone - Original Message - From: "Mark Langford" <n5...@hiwaay.net> To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net> Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2004 8:41 AM Subject: Re: KR>Rand/Robinson Engineering > Bob Stone wrote: > > >> have any

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2008-10-12 Thread Bob Stone
business is just going to die a slow death and she will end up with nothing. Bob Stone - Original Message - From: "Max Hardberger" <mhardber...@admiraltyassociates.com> To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net> Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2004 8:05 AM Subject: Re: KR