Re: KR> Procedure
I used these for the basis of my procedures. Joe Nunley Baker Florida Original message From: Daniel Heath via KRnet Date: 2/15/18 3:59 PM (GMT-06:00) To: 'KRnet' Cc: Daniel Heath Subject: Re: KR> Procedure There are several documents at: http://krbuilder.org/WeightAndBalance/WB_Documents.html You are welcome to use any that suit your purpose as long as you assume responsibility for your final product. See N64KR at <http://krbuilder.org/> http://KRBuilder.org - Then click on the pics KRGathering 2018/ KMVN/ Sept 13-15 Peoples Choice at 2013 - KR Gathering in Mt. Vernon, Il - MVN Best KR at 2013 - KR Gathering in Mt. Vernon, Il - MVN Best Interior at 2013 - KR Gathering in Mt. Vernon, Il - MVN Best Paint at 2013 - KR Gathering in Mt. Vernon, Il - MVN Best Firwwall Forward at 2013 - KR Gathering in Mt. Vernon, Il - MVN Best Interior and Panel at 2008 - KR Gathering in Mt. Vernon, Il - MVN Daniel R. Heath - Lexington, SC -Original Message- From: KRnet [mailto:krnet-boun...@list.krnet.org] On Behalf Of Ken Hurley via KRnet Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2018 9:52 AM To: KRnet Cc: Ken Hurley Subject: KR> Procedure What do you have for a check list for preflight, engine start up, in flight emergencies, landing, shut down, and parking (did I list everything?)? Are they all in your head it on paper? ___ Search the KRnet Archives at https://www.mail-archive.com/krnet@list.krnet.org/. Please see LIST RULES and KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html. see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change options. To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@list.krnet.org ___ Search the KRnet Archives at https://www.mail-archive.com/krnet@list.krnet.org/. Please see LIST RULES and KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html. see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change options. To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@list.krnet.org
Re: KR> Procedure
I have a POH in word format which is available at the following link; http://www.robert7721.com/kr2oprfs.doc It has several checklists in it for normal and emergency operations. No issues if you want to modify to suit your aircraft. Rob Schmitt Sent from my iPad > On Feb 15, 2018, at 3:59 PM, Daniel Heath via KRnet > wrote: > > There are several documents at:feral checklists for use. > http://krbuilder.org/WeightAndBalance/WB_Documents.html > > > > > > You are welcome to use any that suit your purpose as long as you assume > responsibility for your final product. > > > > See N64KR at <http://krbuilder.org/> http://KRBuilder.org - Then click on > the pics > > > > KRGathering 2018/ KMVN/ Sept 13-15 > > > > Peoples Choice at 2013 - KR Gathering in Mt. Vernon, Il - MVN > > Best KR at 2013 - KR Gathering in Mt. Vernon, Il - MVN > > Best Interior at 2013 - KR Gathering in Mt. Vernon, Il - MVN > > Best Paint at 2013 - KR Gathering in Mt. Vernon, Il - MVN > > Best Firwwall Forward at 2013 - KR Gathering in Mt. Vernon, Il - MVN > > > > Best Interior and Panel at 2008 - KR Gathering in Mt. Vernon, Il - MVN > > > > > > Daniel R. Heath - Lexington, SC > > -Original Message- > From: KRnet [mailto:krnet-boun...@list.krnet.org] On Behalf Of Ken Hurley > via KRnet > Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2018 9:52 AM > To: KRnet > Cc: Ken Hurley > Subject: KR> Procedure > > > > What do you have for a check list for preflight, engine start up, in flight > emergencies, landing, shut down, and parking (did I list everything?)? Are > they all in your head it on paper? > > ___ > Search the KRnet Archives at > https://www.mail-archive.com/krnet@list.krnet.org/. > Please see LIST RULES and KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html. > see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change > options. > To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@list.krnet.org ___ Search the KRnet Archives at https://www.mail-archive.com/krnet@list.krnet.org/. Please see LIST RULES and KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html. see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change options. To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@list.krnet.org
Re: KR> Procedure
There are several documents at: http://krbuilder.org/WeightAndBalance/WB_Documents.html You are welcome to use any that suit your purpose as long as you assume responsibility for your final product. See N64KR at <http://krbuilder.org/> http://KRBuilder.org - Then click on the pics KRGathering 2018/ KMVN/ Sept 13-15 Peoples Choice at 2013 - KR Gathering in Mt. Vernon, Il - MVN Best KR at 2013 - KR Gathering in Mt. Vernon, Il - MVN Best Interior at 2013 - KR Gathering in Mt. Vernon, Il - MVN Best Paint at 2013 - KR Gathering in Mt. Vernon, Il - MVN Best Firwwall Forward at 2013 - KR Gathering in Mt. Vernon, Il - MVN Best Interior and Panel at 2008 - KR Gathering in Mt. Vernon, Il - MVN Daniel R. Heath - Lexington, SC -Original Message- From: KRnet [mailto:krnet-boun...@list.krnet.org] On Behalf Of Ken Hurley via KRnet Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2018 9:52 AM To: KRnet Cc: Ken Hurley Subject: KR> Procedure What do you have for a check list for preflight, engine start up, in flight emergencies, landing, shut down, and parking (did I list everything?)? Are they all in your head it on paper? ___ Search the KRnet Archives at https://www.mail-archive.com/krnet@list.krnet.org/. Please see LIST RULES and KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html. see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change options. To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@list.krnet.org
Re: KR> Procedure
Pete, Try it as <http://jeffsplanes.com/KR/N1213W%20POH.pdf> I put a space in the name of the file when I created it and some web browsers don't handle that well. I need to fix it. -Jeff Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2018 at 9:30 AM From: "Pete Klapp via KRnet" To: KRnet Cc: "Pete Klapp" Subject: Re: KR> Procedure Jeff I tried to access your POH pdf twice, but only got an error message?? Could there be an error in the address? Pete Klapp From: KRnet on behalf of Jeff Scott via KRnet Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2018 10:39 AM To: krnet@list.krnet.org Cc: Jeff Scott Subject: Re: KR> Procedure The DAR/FAA would like to see that you have a POH for your plane. I never had one for my KR until a few years ago when I finished the SuperCub and wrote one for it, then decided I should do the same for the KR. It's just a document and as Stephen says, you'll want to review and update it periodically, especially while you are testing/learning the plane. I copied the one Rob Schmitt had on his web site and graciously allowed me to use as a template, then rewrote it for my KR. You're welcome to do the same from mine. <http://jeffsplanes.com/KR/N1213W POH.pdf> You should be able to easily convert the .pdf back to a MSWord document. The reality is, in planes as simple as the the ones I fly, I keep the checklists in my head. In an emergency situation in a KR, things happen way too fast to be trying to read a POH. But I also find that my head apparently leaks as I have departed with the canopy unlatched and the cowl flap in the wrong position on more than one occasion, so a checklist card mounted in the cockpit wouldn't be a bad thing. -Jeff Scott Cherokee Village, AR Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2018 at 7:52 AM From: "Ken Hurley via KRnet" To: KRnet Cc: "Ken Hurley" Subject: KR> Procedure What do you have for a check list for preflight, engine start up, in flight emergencies, landing, shut down, and parking (did I list everything?)? Are they all in your head it on paper? ___ Search the KRnet Archives at https://www.mail-archive.com/krnet@list.krnet.org/[https://www.mail-archive.com/krnet@list.krnet.org/]. Please see LIST RULES and KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html[http://www.krnet.org/info.html]. see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org[http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org] to change options. To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@list.krnet.org ___ Search the KRnet Archives at https://www.mail-archive.com/krnet@list.krnet.org/[https://www.mail-archive.com/krnet@list.krnet.org/]. Please see LIST RULES and KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html[http://www.krnet.org/info.html]. see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org[http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org] to change options. To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@list.krnet.org ___ Search the KRnet Archives at https://www.mail-archive.com/krnet@list.krnet.org/. Please see LIST RULES and KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html. see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change options. To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@list.krnet.org
Re: KR> Procedure
Jeff I tried to access your POH pdf twice, but only got an error message?? Could there be an error in the address? Pete Klapp From: KRnet on behalf of Jeff Scott via KRnet Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2018 10:39 AM To: krnet@list.krnet.org Cc: Jeff Scott Subject: Re: KR> Procedure The DAR/FAA would like to see that you have a POH for your plane. I never had one for my KR until a few years ago when I finished the SuperCub and wrote one for it, then decided I should do the same for the KR. It's just a document and as Stephen says, you'll want to review and update it periodically, especially while you are testing/learning the plane. I copied the one Rob Schmitt had on his web site and graciously allowed me to use as a template, then rewrote it for my KR. You're welcome to do the same from mine. <http://jeffsplanes.com/KR/N1213W POH.pdf> You should be able to easily convert the .pdf back to a MSWord document. The reality is, in planes as simple as the the ones I fly, I keep the checklists in my head. In an emergency situation in a KR, things happen way too fast to be trying to read a POH. But I also find that my head apparently leaks as I have departed with the canopy unlatched and the cowl flap in the wrong position on more than one occasion, so a checklist card mounted in the cockpit wouldn't be a bad thing. -Jeff Scott Cherokee Village, AR Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2018 at 7:52 AM From: "Ken Hurley via KRnet" To: KRnet Cc: "Ken Hurley" Subject: KR> Procedure What do you have for a check list for preflight, engine start up, in flight emergencies, landing, shut down, and parking (did I list everything?)? Are they all in your head it on paper? ___ Search the KRnet Archives at https://www.mail-archive.com/krnet@list.krnet.org/. Please see LIST RULES and KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html. see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change options. To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@list.krnet.org ___ Search the KRnet Archives at https://www.mail-archive.com/krnet@list.krnet.org/. Please see LIST RULES and KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html. see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change options. To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@list.krnet.org
Re: KR> Procedure
The DAR/FAA would like to see that you have a POH for your plane. I never had one for my KR until a few years ago when I finished the SuperCub and wrote one for it, then decided I should do the same for the KR. It's just a document and as Stephen says, you'll want to review and update it periodically, especially while you are testing/learning the plane. I copied the one Rob Schmitt had on his web site and graciously allowed me to use as a template, then rewrote it for my KR. You're welcome to do the same from mine. <http://jeffsplanes.com/KR/N1213W POH.pdf> You should be able to easily convert the .pdf back to a MSWord document. The reality is, in planes as simple as the the ones I fly, I keep the checklists in my head. In an emergency situation in a KR, things happen way too fast to be trying to read a POH. But I also find that my head apparently leaks as I have departed with the canopy unlatched and the cowl flap in the wrong position on more than one occasion, so a checklist card mounted in the cockpit wouldn't be a bad thing. -Jeff Scott Cherokee Village, AR Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2018 at 7:52 AM From: "Ken Hurley via KRnet" To: KRnet Cc: "Ken Hurley" Subject: KR> Procedure What do you have for a check list for preflight, engine start up, in flight emergencies, landing, shut down, and parking (did I list everything?)? Are they all in your head it on paper? ___ Search the KRnet Archives at https://www.mail-archive.com/krnet@list.krnet.org/. Please see LIST RULES and KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html. see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change options. To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@list.krnet.org
Re: KR> Procedure
"What do you have for a check list for preflight, engine start up, in flight emergencies, landing, shut down, and parking " Good morning Ken, These can be pretty airplane specific but I have attached the ones I created for my plane. You will also find that they will need revising from time to time. I just started running my engine and have already revised my "Normal Start" checklist. Stephen Teate Paradise, Texas The information in this email is confidential and may be legally privileged. If you are not an intended recipient, you should delete this message. Access to this email by anyone else is unauthorized, and any disclosure, copying, distribution or action taken or omitted in reliance on it is prohibited and may be unlawful. ___ Search the KRnet Archives at https://www.mail-archive.com/krnet@list.krnet.org/. Please see LIST RULES and KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html. see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change options. To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@list.krnet.org
KR> Procedure
What do you have for a check list for preflight, engine start up, in flight emergencies, landing, shut down, and parking (did I list everything?)? Are they all in your head it on paper? ___ Search the KRnet Archives at https://www.mail-archive.com/krnet@list.krnet.org/. Please see LIST RULES and KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html. see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change options. To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@list.krnet.org
KR> Procedure to cover glass cloth on foam.
Please correct me if you have experienced different +++ Stand corrected - very effective peel ply (synthetic material) is available from the drapery store at a fraction the cost and I doubt that any release agent is involved. I wish I could be more specific, but my wife found it and she is not sure what the technical name is. She did mention dress lining and other similar things. I got two 80m rolls while the going was good so it has been a while. It resembles a 3 ounce regular weave cloth, but acts like a synthetic (nylon?) when exposed to a flame. (Black smoke an makes a little black ball) I have even has success with an "ester" resin. Steve J
KR> Procedure to cover glass cloth on foam.
Make a test piece with the material you have. KRRon - Original Message - From: "Steve Jacobs" To: "'KRnet'" Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2005 12:10 AM Subject: RE: KR> Procedure to cover glass cloth on foam. > Please correct me if you have experienced different > > +++ > > Stand corrected - very effective peel ply (synthetic material) is > available from the drapery store at a fraction the cost and I doubt that > any release agent is involved. > > I wish I could be more specific, but my wife found it and she is not > sure what the technical name is. She did mention dress lining and other > similar things. I got two 80m rolls while the going was good so it has > been a while. > > It resembles a 3 ounce regular weave cloth, but acts like a synthetic > (nylon?) when exposed to a flame. (Black smoke an makes a little black > ball) > > I have even has success with an "ester" resin. > > Steve J > > > > > ___ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > >
KR> Procedure to cover glass cloth on foam.
- Original Message - From: patrusso<mailto:patru...@sover.net> To: KRnet<mailto:kr...@mylist.net> Sent: Monday, August 22, 2005 5:26 PM Subject: Re: KR> Procedure to cover glass cloth on foam. Dubi One other aspect of peel ply is that it helps to save over all weight as you pull it off it removes some of the excess epoxy that you would not other wise get just by squeege process. Mike Turner Jackson, Missouri Dubi You are correct on all counts. Other hints are: A-Using peel ply will leave a smoother finish with less sanding later on. B-If you are using urethane foam, wipe down the cured glass with a lightly dampened (with denatured alcohol) cloth to remove the waxy residue that epoxy generates in the curing process. This will make sanding easier and faster. Omit this if you are using styrene foams. Alcohol will attack/melt the foam if not totally protected. Not all foams require slurry. Some urethanes are dense enough to simply apply wet epoxy to, then lay your cloth on and stiple and squeegee off the excess. Good luck. - Original Message - From: "Dubi Gefen" mailto:dub...@maanit.org.il>> To: mailto:kr...@mylist.net>> Sent: Monday, August 22, 2005 2:01 PM Subject: KR> Procedure to cover glass cloth on foam. > Hello Krnet members! > > I would like to understanding the glassing procedure on foam. > > Follow th > Regards > Dubi Gefen. > > ___ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp<http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp> > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net<mailto:krnet-le...@mylist.net> > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html<http://www.krnet.org/info.html> ___ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp<http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp> to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net<mailto:krnet-le...@mylist.net> please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html<http://www.krnet.org/info.html>
KR> Procedure to cover glass cloth on foam.
Does the peel ply actualy soak up the resin or does the resin work through the cloth to sit ontop of the peel ply. Can you use the cloth more then once? The problem I have had is that after I work the resin into the cloth and squeege of the extra resin, the, I get a few voids on the cloth... I have to cut it out.. flox it over and then sand. Those of you that have worked with large pieces of carbon, does it really save that much weight over the standard cloth. 5.9 oz fiberglass vs 3.9 oz carbon.. the difference in the entire piece is about 10-15 oz, is it really worth the extra money? -Jeff >From: "Mike Turner" >Reply-To: KRnet >To: "KRnet" >Subject: Re: KR> Procedure to cover glass cloth on foam. >Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2005 20:52:04 -0500 >MIME-Version: 1.0 >X-Originating-IP: [65.54.161.203] >X-Originating-Email: [aviato...@msn.com] >X-Sender: aviato...@msn.com >Received: from lizard.esosoft.net ([38.118.200.18]) by mc2-f33.hotmail.com >with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Tue, 23 Aug 2005 18:53:00 -0700 >Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lizard.esosoft.net)by >lizard.esosoft.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43)id 1E7kRo-0001DR-Anfor >wilder_j...@msn.com; Tue, 23 Aug 2005 18:53:00 -0700 >Received: from bay106-dav9.bay106.hotmail.com ([65.54.161.81] >helo=hotmail.com)by lizard.esosoft.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id >1E7kQv-00013D-4Efor kr...@mylist.net; Tue, 23 Aug 2005 18:52:05 -0700 >Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft >SMTPSVC;Tue, 23 Aug 2005 18:52:04 -0700 >Received: from 65.54.161.203 by BAY106-DAV9.phx.gbl with DAV;Wed, 24 Aug >2005 01:52:04 + >X-Message-Info: JGTYoYF78jHMGSxvvqv8kPRzFwHUwmvl3BLTWq4Z1Yo= >References: ><01c5a743$828f6450$7407a8c0@privatevkzwc19><002301c5a768$9b81ce60$1ba772d8@patrusso> >X-MSMail-Priority: Normal >X-Mailer: MSN 9 >X-MIMEOLE: Produced By MSN MimeOLE V9.10.0011.1703 >Seal-Send-Time: Tue, 23 Aug 2005 20:52:04 -0500 >X-OriginalArrivalTime: 24 Aug 2005 01:52:04.0707 >(UTC)FILETIME=[6D729B30:01C5A84E] >X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.4 >X-BeenThere: kr...@mylist.net >X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.4 >Precedence: list >List-Id: KRnet >List-Unsubscribe: ><http://mylist.net/listinfo/krnet>,<mailto:krnet-requ...@mylist.net?subject=unsubscribe> >List-Archive: <http://mylist.net/private/krnet> >List-Post: <mailto:kr...@mylist.net> >List-Help: <mailto:krnet-requ...@mylist.net?subject=help> >List-Subscribe: ><http://mylist.net/listinfo/krnet>,<mailto:krnet-requ...@mylist.net?subject=subscribe> >Errors-To: krnet-bounces+wilder_jeff=msn@mylist.net >Return-Path: krnet-bounces+wilder_jeff=msn....@mylist.net > > > - Original Message - > From: patrusso<mailto:patru...@sover.net> > To: KRnet<mailto:kr...@mylist.net> > Sent: Monday, August 22, 2005 5:26 PM > Subject: Re: KR> Procedure to cover glass cloth on foam. > Dubi > One other aspect of peel ply is that it helps to save over all weight as >you pull it off it removes some of the excess epoxy that you would not >other wise get just by squeege process. > > Mike Turner > Jackson, Missouri > > Dubi > You are correct on all counts. Other hints are: A-Using peel ply will >leave > a smoother finish with less sanding later on. B-If you are using >urethane > foam, wipe down the cured glass with a lightly dampened (with denatured > alcohol) cloth to remove the waxy residue that epoxy generates in the > curing process. This will make sanding easier and faster. Omit this if >you > are using styrene foams. Alcohol will attack/melt the foam if not >totally > protected. Not all foams require slurry. Some urethanes are dense enough >to > simply apply wet epoxy to, then lay your cloth on and stiple and >squeegee > off the excess. Good luck. > - Original Message - > From: "Dubi Gefen" mailto:dub...@maanit.org.il>> > To: mailto:kr...@mylist.net>> > Sent: Monday, August 22, 2005 2:01 PM > Subject: KR> Procedure to cover glass cloth on foam. > > > > Hello Krnet members! > > > > I would like to understanding the glassing procedure on foam. > > > > Follow th > > Regards > > Dubi Gefen. > > > > ___ > > Search the KRnet Archives at >http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp<http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp> > > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to >krnet-le...@mylist.net<mailto:krnet-le...@mylist.net> > > please see other KRnet info at >http://www.krnet.org/info.html<http://www.krnet.org/
KR> Procedure to cover glass cloth on foam.
The Peel Ply soaks up the excess resin. The cloth can only be used one time. Mark Jones (N886MJ) Wales, WI USA E-mail me at flyk...@wi.rr.com Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj - Original Message - From: "wilder_jeff Wilder" To: Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2005 9:42 PM Subject: Re: KR> Procedure to cover glass cloth on foam. > > Does the peel ply actualy soak up the resin or does the resin work through > the cloth to sit ontop of the peel ply. Can you use the cloth more then > once? > > The problem I have had is that after I work the resin into the cloth and > squeege of the extra resin, the, I get a few voids on the cloth... I have to > cut it out.. flox it over and then sand. > > Those of you that have worked with large pieces of carbon, does it really > save that much weight over the standard cloth. 5.9 oz fiberglass vs 3.9 oz > carbon.. the difference in the entire piece is about 10-15 oz, is it really > worth the extra money? > > -Jeff > > >From: "Mike Turner" > >Reply-To: KRnet > >To: "KRnet" > >Subject: Re: KR> Procedure to cover glass cloth on foam. > >Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2005 20:52:04 -0500 > >MIME-Version: 1.0 > >X-Originating-IP: [65.54.161.203] > >X-Originating-Email: [aviato...@msn.com] > >X-Sender: aviato...@msn.com > >Received: from lizard.esosoft.net ([38.118.200.18]) by mc2-f33.hotmail.com > >with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Tue, 23 Aug 2005 18:53:00 -0700 > >Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lizard.esosoft.net)by > >lizard.esosoft.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43)id 1E7kRo-0001DR-Anfor > >wilder_j...@msn.com; Tue, 23 Aug 2005 18:53:00 -0700 > >Received: from bay106-dav9.bay106.hotmail.com ([65.54.161.81] > >helo=hotmail.com)by lizard.esosoft.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id > >1E7kQv-00013D-4Efor kr...@mylist.net; Tue, 23 Aug 2005 18:52:05 -0700 > >Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft > >SMTPSVC;Tue, 23 Aug 2005 18:52:04 -0700 > >Received: from 65.54.161.203 by BAY106-DAV9.phx.gbl with DAV;Wed, 24 Aug > >2005 01:52:04 + > >X-Message-Info: JGTYoYF78jHMGSxvvqv8kPRzFwHUwmvl3BLTWq4Z1Yo= > >References: > ><01c5a743$828f6450$7407a8c0@privatevkzwc19><002301c5a768$9b81ce60$1ba77 2d8@patrusso> > >X-MSMail-Priority: Normal > >X-Mailer: MSN 9 > >X-MIMEOLE: Produced By MSN MimeOLE V9.10.0011.1703 > >Seal-Send-Time: Tue, 23 Aug 2005 20:52:04 -0500 > >X-OriginalArrivalTime: 24 Aug 2005 01:52:04.0707 > >(UTC)FILETIME=[6D729B30:01C5A84E] > >X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.4 > >X-BeenThere: kr...@mylist.net > >X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.4 > >Precedence: list > >List-Id: KRnet > >List-Unsubscribe: > ><http://mylist.net/listinfo/krnet>,<mailto:krnet-requ...@mylist.net?subject =unsubscribe> > >List-Archive: <http://mylist.net/private/krnet> > >List-Post: <mailto:kr...@mylist.net> > >List-Help: <mailto:krnet-requ...@mylist.net?subject=help> > >List-Subscribe: > ><http://mylist.net/listinfo/krnet>,<mailto:krnet-requ...@mylist.net?subject =subscribe> > >Errors-To: krnet-bounces+wilder_jeff=msn@mylist.net > >Return-Path: krnet-bounces+wilder_jeff=msn@mylist.net > > > > > > - Original Message - > > From: patrusso<mailto:patru...@sover.net> > > To: KRnet<mailto:kr...@mylist.net> > > Sent: Monday, August 22, 2005 5:26 PM > > Subject: Re: KR> Procedure to cover glass cloth on foam. > > Dubi > > One other aspect of peel ply is that it helps to save over all weight as > >you pull it off it removes some of the excess epoxy that you would not > >other wise get just by squeege process. > > > > Mike Turner > > Jackson, Missouri > > > > Dubi > > You are correct on all counts. Other hints are: A-Using peel ply will > >leave > > a smoother finish with less sanding later on. B-If you are using > >urethane > > foam, wipe down the cured glass with a lightly dampened (with denatured > > alcohol) cloth to remove the waxy residue that epoxy generates in the > > curing process. This will make sanding easier and faster. Omit this if > >you > > are using styrene foams. Alcohol will attack/melt the foam if not > >totally > > protected. Not all foams require slurry. Some urethanes are dense enough > >to > > simply apply wet epoxy to, then lay your cloth on and stiple and > >squeegee > > off the excess. Good luck. > > - Original Message - > > From: &quo
KR> Procedure to cover glass cloth on foam.
Be sure there is enough resin to get the peel ply wet, even if you have to add some back. You must be getting your layup too dry. Carbon fiber is 5 times lighter and 5 times more expensive. It is also stronger and more brittle. It also blocks radio waves. Used in the right places for the right reasons, it is well worth it. We used it for our seats because that weight is aft CG and we knew that anything aft would be a problem. But then we had to install the radio antenna on top of the plane instead of behind the seat which was the intended place for it. See you in Mt. Vernon - 2005 - KR Gathering See N64KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Then click on the pics There is a time for building and a time for FLYING and the time for building has expired. Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC ---Original Message--- I get a few voids on the cloth Those of you that have worked with large pieces of carbon, does it really save that much weight is it really worth the extra money?
KR> Procedure to cover glass cloth on foam.
Here is how the process works. 1. Resin is less dense that fiberglass or any other cloth. 2. Therefore the cloth floats on top of the resin layer, [W/O peel ply] and forms a thick layer of cure resin just below the cloth making a heavier lay-up that is less strong because of the layer of resin.[as you add more resin the under-layer gets thicker] 3. By using the peel ply, capillary action draws the resin from under the cloth up to the layer between the peel ply and cloth, forcing the cloth closer to the structure being covered. You should add just enough resin to wet the cloth and peel ply. When you remove the peel ply you see the thin layer of resin.[ If the cloth wave is present, you didn't add enough resin]. KRRon - Original Message - From: "wilder_jeff Wilder" To: Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2005 9:42 PM Subject: Re: KR> Procedure to cover glass cloth on foam. > > Does the peel ply actualy soak up the resin or does the resin work through > the cloth to sit ontop of the peel ply. Can you use the cloth more then > once? > > The problem I have had is that after I work the resin into the cloth and > squeege of the extra resin, the, I get a few voids on the cloth... I have > to > cut it out.. flox it over and then sand. > > Those of you that have worked with large pieces of carbon, does it really > save that much weight over the standard cloth. 5.9 oz fiberglass vs 3.9 oz > carbon.. the difference in the entire piece is about 10-15 oz, is it > really > worth the extra money? > > -Jeff > >>From: "Mike Turner" >>Reply-To: KRnet >>To: "KRnet" >>Subject: Re: KR> Procedure to cover glass cloth on foam. >>Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2005 20:52:04 -0500 >>MIME-Version: 1.0 >>X-Originating-IP: [65.54.161.203] >>X-Originating-Email: [aviato...@msn.com] >>X-Sender: aviato...@msn.com >>Received: from lizard.esosoft.net ([38.118.200.18]) by mc2-f33.hotmail.com >>with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Tue, 23 Aug 2005 18:53:00 -0700 >>Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lizard.esosoft.net)by >>lizard.esosoft.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43)id 1E7kRo-0001DR-Anfor >>wilder_j...@msn.com; Tue, 23 Aug 2005 18:53:00 -0700 >>Received: from bay106-dav9.bay106.hotmail.com ([65.54.161.81] >>helo=hotmail.com)by lizard.esosoft.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id >>1E7kQv-00013D-4Efor kr...@mylist.net; Tue, 23 Aug 2005 18:52:05 -0700 >>Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft >>SMTPSVC;Tue, 23 Aug 2005 18:52:04 -0700 >>Received: from 65.54.161.203 by BAY106-DAV9.phx.gbl with DAV;Wed, 24 Aug >>2005 01:52:04 + >>X-Message-Info: JGTYoYF78jHMGSxvvqv8kPRzFwHUwmvl3BLTWq4Z1Yo= >>References: >><01c5a743$828f6450$7407a8c0@privatevkzwc19><002301c5a768$9b81ce60$1ba772d8@patrusso> >>X-MSMail-Priority: Normal >>X-Mailer: MSN 9 >>X-MIMEOLE: Produced By MSN MimeOLE V9.10.0011.1703 >>Seal-Send-Time: Tue, 23 Aug 2005 20:52:04 -0500 >>X-OriginalArrivalTime: 24 Aug 2005 01:52:04.0707 >>(UTC)FILETIME=[6D729B30:01C5A84E] >>X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.4 >>X-BeenThere: kr...@mylist.net >>X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.4 >>Precedence: list >>List-Id: KRnet >>List-Unsubscribe: >><http://mylist.net/listinfo/krnet>,<mailto:krnet-requ...@mylist.net?subject=unsubscribe> >>List-Archive: <http://mylist.net/private/krnet> >>List-Post: <mailto:kr...@mylist.net> >>List-Help: <mailto:krnet-requ...@mylist.net?subject=help> >>List-Subscribe: >><http://mylist.net/listinfo/krnet>,<mailto:krnet-requ...@mylist.net?subject=subscribe> >>Errors-To: krnet-bounces+wilder_jeff=msn@mylist.net >>Return-Path: krnet-bounces+wilder_jeff=msn@mylist.net >> >> >> - Original Message - >> From: patrusso<mailto:patru...@sover.net> >> To: KRnet<mailto:kr...@mylist.net> >> Sent: Monday, August 22, 2005 5:26 PM >> Subject: Re: KR> Procedure to cover glass cloth on foam. >> Dubi >> One other aspect of peel ply is that it helps to save over all weight >> as >>you pull it off it removes some of the excess epoxy that you would not >>other wise get just by squeege process. >> >> Mike Turner >> Jackson, Missouri >> >> Dubi >> You are correct on all counts. Other hints are: A-Using peel ply will >>leave >> a smoother finish with less sanding later on. B-If you are using >>urethane >> foam, wipe down the cured glass with a lightly dampened (with denatured >> alcohol) cloth to remove the waxy residue that epoxy generates in the >> curing pr
KR> Procedure to cover glass cloth on foam.
1. Resin is less dense that fiberglass or any other cloth. 2. Therefore the cloth floats on top of the resin layer, That does not make sense, the less dense material should be what floats! i.e.: wood is less dense than water so it floats. Steel is denser than water so it sinks. Joachim
KR> Procedure to cover glass cloth on foam.
OK it's the reverse. You got the Idea. Ron - Original Message - From: "Joachim Saupe" To: "Ron Eason , KRnet" Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2005 3:39 PM Subject: Re: KR> Procedure to cover glass cloth on foam. > > 1. Resin is less dense that fiberglass or any other cloth. > 2. Therefore the cloth floats on top of the resin layer, > > That does not make sense, the less dense material should be what floats! > > i.e.: wood is less dense than water so it floats. Steel is denser than > water so it sinks. > > Joachim > > > > ___ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > >
KR> Procedure to cover glass cloth on foam.
- Original Message - From: Robert Morrissey<mailto:cam...@earthlink.net> To: KRnet<mailto:kr...@mylist.net> Sent: Monday, August 22, 2005 8:40 PM Subject: Re: KR> Procedure to cover glass cloth on foam. Dubi, see # 8 Mike Turner Jackson, Missouri > Hello Krnet members! > > I would like to understanding the glassing procedure on foam. > > Follow the procedure as I understanding. > > 1. Sending the foam. > 2. Cover/squeegee over the foam with slurry (Micro + epoxy) > 3. Cover the wet slurry with glass cloth. > 4. Cover over the glass cloth with pure epoxy and squeegee off any > excess epoxy. > 5. Wait two day, when all the slurry/epoxy is dry. > 6. Sending the surface area. > 7. Use macro slurry to fill in unsmooth area. > *8 keep the micro off the wood spars this requires pure epoxy > > Waiting to confirmation or correction. > > Regards > Dubi Gefen. > > ___ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp<http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp> > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net<mailto:krnet-le...@mylist.net> > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html<http://www.krnet.org/info.html> ___ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp<http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp> to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net<mailto:krnet-le...@mylist.net> please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html<http://www.krnet.org/info.html>
KR> Procedure to cover glass cloth on foam.
Insert this between 4. and 5. Apply Peel Ply to the epoxied glass cloth and roll out to ensure there are no voids. When dry (after step 5) remove Peel Ply and minimal sanding will be required. Bernie McLean Poplar Grove IL > Hello Krnet members! > > I would like to understanding the glassing procedure on foam. > > Follow the procedure as I understanding. > > 1. Sending the foam. > 2. Cover/squeegee over the foam with slurry (Micro + epoxy) > 3. Cover the wet slurry with glass cloth. > 4. Cover over the glass cloth with pure epoxy and squeegee off any > excess epoxy. > 5. Wait two day, when all the slurry/epoxy is dry. > 6. Sending the surface area. > 7. Use macro slurry to fill in unsmooth area. > *8 keep the micro off the wood spars this requires pure epoxy
KR> Procedure to cover glass cloth on foam.
Hello Krnet members! I would like to understanding the glassing procedure on foam. Follow the procedure as I understanding. 1. Sending the foam. 2. Cover/squeegee over the foam with slurry (Micro + epoxy) 3. Cover the wet slurry with glass cloth. 4. Cover over the glass cloth with pure epoxy and squeegee off any excess epoxy. 5. Wait two day, when all the slurry/epoxy is dry. 6. Sending the surface area. 7. Use macro slurry to fill in unsmooth area. My question: A. This process is correct? If not please correct me. B. This process suitable to all area with foam like: Wings, Horizontal stabilizer, Elevator, Vertical stab and so on? C. Within the "Book Plan" of the KR-2 mentioned, Micro beads is totally non structural. How this instruction related to the cover of the wings foam with Micro beads and then covers with glass cloth? Waiting to confirmation or correction. Regards Dubi Gefen.
KR> Procedure to cover glass cloth on foam.
your layup list looks good to me&there are vairiations to the layup , cut & layup a layer at a time on the foam or stack all layers on some plastic sheet,wet them, then apply the layer buildup to the foam,happy sanding. steve jones,venice fl, n212kr
KR> Procedure to cover glass cloth on foam.
Their is some variations to the following procedure but basically it's standard. I have added the following steps in my practice. 2a. I allow the slurry to cure. 2b. Sand and fill voids, sand and smooth out surfaces to near final finish. 4a.Add peal-ply cloth over the fiberglass. If you want to have a superior finish these my help. You will eventually find what is best for your taste after a few tries. KRRon - Original Message - From: "Dubi Gefen" To: Sent: Monday, August 22, 2005 1:01 PM Subject: KR> Procedure to cover glass cloth on foam. > Hello Krnet members! > > I would like to understanding the glassing procedure on foam. > > Follow the procedure as I understanding. > > 1. Sending the foam. > 2. Cover/squeegee over the foam with slurry (Micro + epoxy) > 3. Cover the wet slurry with glass cloth. > 4. Cover over the glass cloth with pure epoxy and squeegee off any > excess epoxy. > 5. Wait two day, when all the slurry/epoxy is dry. > 6. Sending the surface area. > 7. Use macro slurry to fill in unsmooth area. > > My question: > A. This process is correct? If not please correct me. > B. This process suitable to all area with foam like: > Wings, Horizontal stabilizer, Elevator, Vertical stab and so on? > C. Within the "Book Plan" of the KR-2 mentioned, Micro beads is > totally non structural. > How this instruction related to the cover of the wings foam > with Micro beads and then covers with glass cloth? > > Waiting to confirmation or correction. > > Regards > Dubi Gefen.
KR> Procedure to cover glass cloth on foam.
Dubi You are correct on all counts. Other hints are: A-Using peel ply will leave a smoother finish with less sanding later on. B-If you are using urethane foam, wipe down the cured glass with a lightly dampened (with denatured alcohol) cloth to remove the waxy residue that epoxy generates in the curing process. This will make sanding easier and faster. Omit this if you are using styrene foams. Alcohol will attack/melt the foam if not totally protected. Not all foams require slurry. Some urethanes are dense enough to simply apply wet epoxy to, then lay your cloth on and stiple and squeegee off the excess. Good luck. - Original Message - From: "Dubi Gefen" To: Sent: Monday, August 22, 2005 2:01 PM Subject: KR> Procedure to cover glass cloth on foam. > Hello Krnet members! > > I would like to understanding the glassing procedure on foam. > > Follow the procedure as I understanding. > > 1. Sending the foam. > 2. Cover/squeegee over the foam with slurry (Micro + epoxy) > 3. Cover the wet slurry with glass cloth. > 4. Cover over the glass cloth with pure epoxy and squeegee off any > excess epoxy. > 5. Wait two day, when all the slurry/epoxy is dry. > 6. Sending the surface area. > 7. Use macro slurry to fill in unsmooth area. > > My question: > A. This process is correct? If not please correct me. > B. This process suitable to all area with foam like: > Wings, Horizontal stabilizer, Elevator, Vertical stab and so on? > C. Within the "Book Plan" of the KR-2 mentioned, Micro beads is > totally non structural. > How this instruction related to the cover of the wings foam > with Micro beads and then covers with glass cloth? > > Waiting to confirmation or correction. > > Regards > Dubi Gefen. > > ___ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html
KR> Procedure to cover glass cloth on foam.
Hello KR net members, I would like to add one question to what Dubi Gefen is asking. It relates to what he calls step 1. Sanding the foam. With the thicker spars of the new airfoil is it possible to put relief cuts into the structure of the wing, both foam and wood, so that when all the plies are in place the finished surface is one constant glass layer thickness above the airfoil and will require less filling before finishing/sanding? Reference is "MOLDLESS COMPOSITE HOMEBUILT SANDWICH AIRCRAFT CONSTRUCTION, 3rd edition-September, 1983 page 3-9 step 3: Prepare Surfaces the third paragraph. Thanks Bob Morrissey, New bern NC - Original Message - > Hello Krnet members! > > I would like to understanding the glassing procedure on foam. > > Follow the procedure as I understanding. > > 1. Sending the foam. > 2. Cover/squeegee over the foam with slurry (Micro + epoxy) > 3. Cover the wet slurry with glass cloth. > 4. Cover over the glass cloth with pure epoxy and squeegee off any > excess epoxy. > 5. Wait two day, when all the slurry/epoxy is dry. > 6. Sending the surface area. > 7. Use macro slurry to fill in unsmooth area. > > My question: > A. This process is correct? If not please correct me. > B. This process suitable to all area with foam like: > Wings, Horizontal stabilizer, Elevator, Vertical stab and so on? > C. Within the "Book Plan" of the KR-2 mentioned, Micro beads is > totally non structural. >How this instruction related to the cover of the wings foam > with Micro beads and then covers with glass cloth? > > Waiting to confirmation or correction. > > Regards > Dubi Gefen. > > ___ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html
KR> Procedure to cover glass cloth on foam.
I have seen "peel-ply" mentioned several times. What is it? Peter - Original Message - From: "Ron Eason" To: "KRnet" Sent: Monday, August 22, 2005 9:51 PM Subject: Re: KR> Procedure to cover glass cloth on foam. > Their is some variations to the following procedure but basically it's > standard. > I have added the following steps in my practice. > 2a. I allow the slurry to cure. > 2b. Sand and fill voids, sand and smooth out surfaces to near final > finish. > 4a.Add peal-ply cloth over the fiberglass. > If you want to have a superior finish these my help. > You will eventually find what is best for your taste after a few tries. > KRRon >
KR> Procedure to cover glass cloth on foam.
RELEASE FABRIC BLB1 Ply B peel ply coated with a release agent that releases all aircraft resins up to 400 degrees F. Use with R300 sensitive tape as all coated peel plies have the potential to transfer. 60" wide, 2 oz. nylon peel ply is .004 - 005 thickness. Grab tensile: warp - 110 LBS. filling - 140 LBS. minimum. >From Wicks on line catalog. See you in Mt. Vernon - 2005 - KR Gathering See N64KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Then click on the pics There is a time for building and a time for FLYING and the time for building has expired. Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC ---Original Message--- I have seen "peel-ply" mentioned several times. What is it?
KR> Procedure to cover glass cloth on foam.
Simply put Peel Ply is a Dacron type of cloth which has been treated with a release agent which prevents it from permanently adhering to epoxy. Immediately after you have done a fiberglass lay up and the epoxy is still very wet, lay a sheet of Peel Ply over the fiberglass and allow it to soak up excess resin. Use a squeegee to completely wet out the Peel Ply. Only add more epoxy if the Peel Ply does not completely wet out. Allow this to dry (cure) overnight or until it is not sticky to the touch. Once cured, grab the edge of the peel ply and pull it off the fiberglass lay up. The result is an almost perfectly smooth finish which will require minimal sanding. Here is a link which shows Peel Ply in use: http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/turtle.html Mark Jones (N886MJ) Wales, WI USA E-mail me at flyk...@wi.rr.com Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj - Original Message - From: "Dan Heath" To: Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2005 3:48 AM Subject: Re: KR> Procedure to cover glass cloth on foam. > RELEASE FABRIC BLB1 > > Ply B peel ply coated with a release agent that releases all aircraft resins > up to 400 degrees F. Use with R300 sensitive tape as all coated peel plies > have the potential to transfer. 60" wide, 2 oz. nylon peel ply is .004 - > 005 thickness. Grab tensile: warp - 110 LBS. filling - 140 LBS. minimum. > > >From Wicks on line catalog. > > > > See you in Mt. Vernon - 2005 - KR Gathering > > See N64KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Then click on the pics > > There is a time for building and a time for FLYING and the time for building > has expired. > > Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC > > ---Original Message--- > > I have seen "peel-ply" mentioned several times. What is it? > > > > > ___ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html
KR> Procedure to cover glass cloth on foam.
Polyester garment coat lining will do the same thing for about 1/2 or less cost of peel ply from Aircraft Spruce and others. Get it from a fabric shop. KRRon - Original Message - From: "Mark Jones" To: "KRnet" Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2005 6:01 AM Subject: Re: KR> Procedure to cover glass cloth on foam. > Simply put Peel Ply is a Dacron type of cloth which has been treated > with a release agent which prevents it from permanently adhering to epoxy. > Immediately after you have done a fiberglass lay up and the epoxy is still > very wet, lay a sheet of Peel Ply over the fiberglass and allow it to soak > up excess resin. Use a squeegee to completely wet out the Peel Ply. Only > add > more epoxy if the Peel Ply does not completely wet out. Allow this to dry > (cure) overnight or until it is not sticky to the touch. Once cured, grab > the edge of the peel ply and pull it off the fiberglass lay up. The result > is an almost perfectly smooth finish which will require minimal sanding. > Here is a link which shows Peel Ply in use: > http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/turtle.html > > Mark Jones (N886MJ) > Wales, WI USA > E-mail me at flyk...@wi.rr.com > Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at > http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj > > > - Original Message - > From: "Dan Heath" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2005 3:48 AM > Subject: Re: KR> Procedure to cover glass cloth on foam. > > >> RELEASE FABRIC BLB1 >> >> Ply B peel ply coated with a release agent that releases all aircraft > resins >> up to 400 degrees F. Use with R300 sensitive tape as all coated peel >> plies >> have the potential to transfer. 60" wide, 2 oz. nylon peel ply is .004 - >> 005 thickness. Grab tensile: warp - 110 LBS. filling - 140 LBS. minimum. >> >> >From Wicks on line catalog. >> >> >> >> See you in Mt. Vernon - 2005 - KR Gathering >> >> See N64KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Then click on the pics >> >> There is a time for building and a time for FLYING and the time for > building >> has expired. >> >> Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC >> >> ---Original Message--- >> >> I have seen "peel-ply" mentioned several times. What is it? >> >> >> >> >> ___ >> Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp >> to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net >> please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > > > ___ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > >
KR> Procedure to cover glass cloth on foam.
Yes, it will BUT it is not coated with a release agent and you MUST remove it prior to complete cure of the epoxy. At least that is what I have been told. Please correct me if you have experienced different as we need to tell the full story to these guys so they will not waste time and money. Thanks Mark Jones (N886MJ) Wales, WI Visit my web site: http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj Email: flyk...@wi.rr.com -Original Message- From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net]On Behalf Of Ron Eason Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2005 11:14 AM To: KRnet Subject: Re: KR> Procedure to cover glass cloth on foam. Polyester garment coat lining will do the same thing for about 1/2 or less cost of peel ply from Aircraft Spruce and others. Get it from a fabric shop. KRRon - Original Message - From: "Mark Jones" To: "KRnet" Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2005 6:01 AM Subject: Re: KR> Procedure to cover glass cloth on foam. > Simply put Peel Ply is a Dacron type of cloth which has been treated > with a release agent which prevents it from permanently adhering to epoxy. > Immediately after you have done a fiberglass lay up and the epoxy is still > very wet, lay a sheet of Peel Ply over the fiberglass and allow it to soak > up excess resin. Use a squeegee to completely wet out the Peel Ply. Only > add > more epoxy if the Peel Ply does not completely wet out. Allow this to dry > (cure) overnight or until it is not sticky to the touch. Once cured, grab > the edge of the peel ply and pull it off the fiberglass lay up. The result > is an almost perfectly smooth finish which will require minimal sanding. > Here is a link which shows Peel Ply in use: > http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/turtle.html > > Mark Jones (N886MJ) > Wales, WI USA > E-mail me at flyk...@wi.rr.com > Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at > http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj > > > - Original Message ----- > From: "Dan Heath" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2005 3:48 AM > Subject: Re: KR> Procedure to cover glass cloth on foam. > > >> RELEASE FABRIC BLB1 >> >> Ply B peel ply coated with a release agent that releases all aircraft > resins >> up to 400 degrees F. Use with R300 sensitive tape as all coated peel >> plies >> have the potential to transfer. 60" wide, 2 oz. nylon peel ply is .004 - >> 005 thickness. Grab tensile: warp - 110 LBS. filling - 140 LBS. minimum. >> >> >From Wicks on line catalog. >> >> >> >> See you in Mt. Vernon - 2005 - KR Gathering >> >> See N64KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Then click on the pics >> >> There is a time for building and a time for FLYING and the time for > building >> has expired. >> >> Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC >> >> ---Original Message--- >> >> I have seen "peel-ply" mentioned several times. What is it? >> >> >> >> >> ___ >> Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp >> to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net >> please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > > > ___ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > ___ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html
