KR> RE: Firewall attachment

[Mark Langford]

Stef den Boer wrote:

>>But what is the difference between the 2 and the -2S. We are building a -2 
>>with the -S tail and stab. So what need I to do in the front of the 
>>Fuselage. Prob some pics will help.<<

There is some reinforcement of the bracing for the firewall on the KR2S.  I 
feel sure someone with a well-documented web-site will volunteer to point 
you toward their photos of the KR2S setup.  I forget the exact details, but 
I believe that involves another 5/8" thick by 3.5" spruce member and a few 
other little details.  It will become apparent when you see photos of 
someone else's firewall/fuselage junction  from the backside.  One key to 
making that connection last is to build an engine mount that connects up to 
the corners of the firewall, rather than out in the middle

Mark Langford
ML at N56ML.com
website www.n56ml.com

KR> RE: Firewall attachment

[Virgil N. Salisbury]

I think that the 2S had 4" added  in front of the forward spar as well, 
Virg


On 4/6/2011 8:57 AM, stef...@kpnmail.nl wrote:
> Thanks,
> We will build the fwd deck removable so that should not a problem. But what 
> is the differents between the 2 and the -2S. We are building a -2 with the -S 
> tail and stab. So wat need I to do in the front of the Fusselage. Prob some 
> pics will help.
> Thanks
>
> Stef den Boer
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

KR> RE: Firewall attachment

[stef...@kpnmail.nl]

Thanks,
We will build the fwd deck removable so that should not a problem. But what is 
the differents between the 2 and the -2S. We are building a -2 with the -S tail 
and stab. So wat need I to do in the front of the Fusselage. Prob some pics 
will help.
Thanks 

Stef den Boer








Stef and Ted are building the KR-2S see   
http://www.masttotaalconcept.nl/kr2





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Verzonden: di 5-4-2011 16:24
Aan: KRnet
Onderwerp: Re: KR> RE: Firewall attachment



Sorry guys it sent before I was ready. Anyway the header tank removes allowing 
complete access to the back of the panel, brakes, etc.
I can send pics when I get off work in three weeks if you are interested.
Victor Taylor

Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 5, 2011, at 8:30 AM, "Teate, Stephen" <ste...@compositecooling.com> 
wrote:

> Hello Stef,
>
> If you are building a 2S then the firewall has already been reinforced for a 
> 100 HP engine. Actually the framing behind the firewall is what was changed. 
> The top cross beams and shelf were all increased and I believe the gussets 
> are also larger if I remember correctly. I will make one suggestion to you as 
> I am in the engine installation phase myself. First install the firewall with 
> temporary screws as you will probably want it on and off several times before 
> you are finished. I cut a small access door through my firewall, similar to a 
> lot of Pipers, for inspection and access to components mounted in this area 
> because I swore I would never "instrument panel dive" again! I am also 
> installing all components without the SS firewall in place so that when 
> everything is up and running then I will only cut the holes I need. As I am 
> liquid cooled there is a certain amount or R involved and sometimes you end 
> up putting holes in the firewall that will interfere with something else.
>
> Regards,
>
> Stephen Teate
> Paradise, Texas
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net] On Behalf Of 
> stef...@kpnmail.nl
> Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2011 7:31 AM
> To: kr net
> Subject: KR> Firewall attachment
>
> Hey guys,
>
> Over here in the Netherlands we are bussy with the fwd deck, canopy frame and 
> the aft deck. If I am looking at the next stage we have to think about the 
> fire wall. We have made the decision to go for an 100 HP engine. Did any of 
> you make the connection from the firewall to the fuselage stronger ? How did 
> you do it? 
>
> Thanks Stef
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Stef and Ted are building the KR-2S see   
> http://www.masttotaalconcept.nl/kr2
>
>
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KR> RE: Firewall attachment

[phillip matheson]

I swore I would never "instrument panel dive" again!


Do as Mark and many others have done, make the forward deck removable.


Phil Matheson
SAAA Ch 37
http://www.philskr2.50megs.com/

KR> RE: Firewall attachment

[velocityo...@yahoo.com]

Sorry guys it sent before I was ready. Anyway the header tank removes allowing 
complete access to the back of the panel, brakes, etc. 
I can send pics when I get off work in three weeks if you are interested. 
Victor Taylor

Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 5, 2011, at 8:30 AM, "Teate, Stephen"  
wrote:

> Hello Stef,
> 
> If you are building a 2S then the firewall has already been reinforced for a 
> 100 HP engine. Actually the framing behind the firewall is what was changed. 
> The top cross beams and shelf were all increased and I believe the gussets 
> are also larger if I remember correctly. I will make one suggestion to you as 
> I am in the engine installation phase myself. First install the firewall with 
> temporary screws as you will probably want it on and off several times before 
> you are finished. I cut a small access door through my firewall, similar to a 
> lot of Pipers, for inspection and access to components mounted in this area 
> because I swore I would never "instrument panel dive" again! I am also 
> installing all components without the SS firewall in place so that when 
> everything is up and running then I will only cut the holes I need. As I am 
> liquid cooled there is a certain amount or R involved and sometimes you end 
> up putting holes in the firewall that will interfere with something else. 
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Stephen Teate
> Paradise, Texas
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net] On Behalf Of 
> stef...@kpnmail.nl
> Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2011 7:31 AM
> To: kr net
> Subject: KR> Firewall attachment
> 
> Hey guys,
> 
> Over here in the Netherlands we are bussy with the fwd deck, canopy frame and 
> the aft deck. If I am looking at the next stage we have to think about the 
> fire wall. We have made the decision to go for an 100 HP engine. Did any of 
> you make the connection from the firewall to the fuselage stronger ? How did 
> you do it?  
> 
> Thanks Stef 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Stef and Ted are building the KR-2S see   
> http://www.masttotaalconcept.nl/kr2
> 
> 
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KR> RE: Firewall attachment

[velocityo...@yahoo.com]

In regards to the access hole in the firewall I did something different. My 
header tank is removable which allows j l

Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 5, 2011, at 8:30 AM, "Teate, Stephen"  
wrote:

> Hello Stef,
> 
> If you are building a 2S then the firewall has already been reinforced for a 
> 100 HP engine. Actually the framing behind the firewall is what was changed. 
> The top cross beams and shelf were all increased and I believe the gussets 
> are also larger if I remember correctly. I will make one suggestion to you as 
> I am in the engine installation phase myself. First install the firewall with 
> temporary screws as you will probably want it on and off several times before 
> you are finished. I cut a small access door through my firewall, similar to a 
> lot of Pipers, for inspection and access to components mounted in this area 
> because I swore I would never "instrument panel dive" again! I am also 
> installing all components without the SS firewall in place so that when 
> everything is up and running then I will only cut the holes I need. As I am 
> liquid cooled there is a certain amount or R involved and sometimes you end 
> up putting holes in the firewall that will interfere with something else. 
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Stephen Teate
> Paradise, Texas
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net] On Behalf Of 
> stef...@kpnmail.nl
> Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2011 7:31 AM
> To: kr net
> Subject: KR> Firewall attachment
> 
> Hey guys,
> 
> Over here in the Netherlands we are bussy with the fwd deck, canopy frame and 
> the aft deck. If I am looking at the next stage we have to think about the 
> fire wall. We have made the decision to go for an 100 HP engine. Did any of 
> you make the connection from the firewall to the fuselage stronger ? How did 
> you do it?  
> 
> Thanks Stef 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Stef and Ted are building the KR-2S see   
> http://www.masttotaalconcept.nl/kr2
> 
> 
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KR> RE: Firewall attachment

[Teate, Stephen]

Hello Stef,

If you are building a 2S then the firewall has already been reinforced for a 
100 HP engine. Actually the framing behind the firewall is what was changed. 
The top cross beams and shelf were all increased and I believe the gussets are 
also larger if I remember correctly. I will make one suggestion to you as I am 
in the engine installation phase myself. First install the firewall with 
temporary screws as you will probably want it on and off several times before 
you are finished. I cut a small access door through my firewall, similar to a 
lot of Pipers, for inspection and access to components mounted in this area 
because I swore I would never "instrument panel dive" again! I am also 
installing all components without the SS firewall in place so that when 
everything is up and running then I will only cut the holes I need. As I am 
liquid cooled there is a certain amount or R involved and sometimes you end 
up putting holes in the firewall that will interfere with something else. 

Regards,

Stephen Teate
Paradise, Texas


-Original Message-
From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net] On Behalf Of 
stef...@kpnmail.nl
Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2011 7:31 AM
To: kr net
Subject: KR> Firewall attachment

Hey guys,

Over here in the Netherlands we are bussy with the fwd deck, canopy frame and 
the aft deck. If I am looking at the next stage we have to think about the fire 
wall. We have made the decision to go for an 100 HP engine. Did any of you make 
the connection from the firewall to the fuselage stronger ? How did you do it?  

Thanks Stef 








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