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[libreoffice-l10n] Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: Our new website is progressing - have a look!

2021-09-06 Thread Rhoslyn Prys


Hmmm, that looks pretty technical to me...

Any chance of doing something nice and easy in WordPress or similar?

Just asking :-)

Rhoslyn Prys - Welsh translation

https://translations.documentfoundation.org/languages/cy/

https://cy.libreoffice.org/


Ar 05/09/2021 13:04, ysgrifennodd Ilmari Lauhakangas:

On 3.9.2021 17.47, Ilmari Lauhakangas wrote:

Hello,

as some of you may know, a small but growing team has been working on 
a completely new website over the past months, and we're making good 
progress!


Apart from a new and fresh design, that will finally also properly 
support mobile phones and tablets, we've spent quite some time on the 
backend system and shared various bits of information with you on 
this already.


We've decided to go with the Hugo static site generator, storing the 
content in Markdown files and tracking changes in Git. There is no 
longer a need to request permission for editing the content or the 
site structure and localisation can happen in Weblate.


As the website should be for you, our Community, we're eager to hear 
your feedback on the editing process of the proposed new website and 
we've decided to provide another testing facility! Master 
choreographer Guilhem whipped up an infrastructural dance routine, 
which makes it possible to preview changes to the website online. 
Please do give it a try and share your questions and feedback with us:

- here on the mailing list
- privately to ilmari.lauhakan...@libreoffice.org
- on the #tdf-infra chat channel 
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Website/IRC#Channels


We'd like to encourage especially the localisers who need unique 
pages to try things out.


Editing the website comes in three easy steps:

1. Edit the website in Gerrit as in the recorded demonstration: 
https://www.ilmarilauhakangas.fi/gerrit_website_demo.mkv


It occurred to me that one can not click links in videos, so here is 
the direct link for creating a change:

https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/admin/repos/infra/libreofficeorg,commands

Here is the main view of the repository, with the readme:
https://git.libreoffice.org/infra/libreofficeorg/


2. Wait 5 minutes
3. Visit https://newdesign2.libreoffice.org/changes/1234 where 1234 
is your Gerrit change number


All kinds of nonsensical changes are welcome - just write the commit 
message in a way that it is clear you are testing.


Don't hesitate to reach out for any questions you may have!


Ilmari


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[libreoffice-l10n] Plural Formula for Welsh on Weblate

2021-03-24 Thread Rhoslyn Prys


An issue as arisen regarding the plural formula for Welsh on Weblate.

At present the formula appears to be set to:

(n==2) ? 1 : 0 
<https://docs.weblate.org/en/weblate-4.4/user/translating.html#plurals><https://docs.weblate.org/en/weblate-4.4/user/translating.html#plurals>


According to the CLDR - Language Plural Rules 
<https://unicode-org.github.io/cldr-staging/charts/37/supplemental/language_plural_rules.html> 
it should be set to:


nplurals=6; plural=n==0 ? 0 : n==1 ? 1 : n==2 ? 2 : n==3 ? 3 : n==6 ? 4 : 5;

Could we check this, it doesn't look like I'm able to change this in 
Weblate?


Thanks

Rhos

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[libreoffice-l10n] Empty strings in LibreOffice UI - master sfx2/messages ?

2021-02-02 Thread Rhoslyn Prys

I notices 6 empty strings - no English content - Context 
STR_TEMPLATE_NAME1 etc.


Are these correct? Thanks

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Bulk translation of new " stock" strings

2021-01-27 Thread Rhoslyn Prys


Thanks, I think I'll just ignore them.

:-)

Ar 27/01/2021 13:36, ysgrifennodd Christian Lohmaier:

On Wed, Jan 27, 2021 at 11:02 AM Rhoslyn Prys  wrote:

Question: Is there a way to something similar with failing checks?

The Welsh translation has between 706 and 1387 failing checks each
across 6.3 to 7.1 and master. These were mainly introduced with the
transfer to Weblate. Clearing them would be a nice to do, most of them
are not errors and the don't appear to impact the translation. I could
just leave them I suppose.

Any suggestions?

No easy answer on that one. Some checks might be false positives, but
others probably are not.

In your case it seems all failing checks are "unchanged translation" -
so those are OK to just ignore.

I can patch weblate to never apply the check for Welsh/cy if you think
it makes sense..
https://github.com/WeblateOrg/weblate/blob/fa5108b0847428529e003bc45a8a32c7f4faa2d6/weblate/checks/same.py#L212

ciao
Christian



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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Translation of extended tooltips

2020-10-23 Thread Rhoslyn Prys


Thanks, Tuomas that was useful.

I've checked the latest daily 7.1 at 
https://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/daily/master/Win-x86_64@tb77-TDF/2020-10-22_05.16.13/ 
and the Extended Tool Tips that I've translated appear after clicking 
the What's This? icon.


Given the 7.1 release plan has a hard code freeze for the second week in 
January 2012 it gives me a timetable to translate and check consistancy 
in 7.1. The Extended Tool Tips do look useful as well, which is a bonus! :-)


Rhos

Ar 22/10/2020 20:01, ysgrifennodd Tuomas Hietala:

Hello Rhoslyn,

The extended tips have landed in LO UI master, meaning that the 
translations will eventually appear in 7.1. I don't think there are 
plans to backport them to 7.0 (but maybe someone can confirm?).


Tuomas

Rhoslyn Prys kirjoitti 21.10.2020 16:43:

Will the Extended Tips work for locales of LibreOffice that do not
have a translation of the Help files?

I've tried checking the Welsh translations of the Extended Tips in
LibreOffice 7.0.2.2 (64bit) but none of the ones translated appear.

I've checked the Tools - Options- LibreOffice - General > Extended tips.

When I try turning them on temporarily Shift+F1 I get a dialog:

The internal LibreOffice help for the UI language has not been
installed (back translated ;-) )

or nothing.

It could be that none of the Welsh translation of Extended Tips that
I've done so far have been included in 7.0.2.2.

At the moment I'm not getting anything via any of these options. I'm a
hesitant to continue to translate the Extended Tips if they will not
appear without the whole Help files having been translated.

Any suggestions? Thanks.

Rhos



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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Translation of extended tooltips

2020-10-21 Thread Rhoslyn Prys

Will the Extended Tips work for locales of LibreOffice that do not have 
a translation of the Help files?


I've tried checking the Welsh translations of the Extended Tips in 
LibreOffice 7.0.2.2 (64bit) but none of the ones translated appear.


I've checked the Tools - Options- LibreOffice - General > Extended tips.

When I try turning them on temporarily Shift+F1 I get a dialog:

The internal LibreOffice help for the UI language has not been installed 
(back translated ;-) )


or nothing.

It could be that none of the Welsh translation of Extended Tips that 
I've done so far have been included in 7.0.2.2.


At the moment I'm not getting anything via any of these options. I'm a 
hesitant to continue to translate the Extended Tips if they will not 
appear without the whole Help files having been translated.


Any suggestions? Thanks.

Rhos
Ar 18/08/2020 15:35, ysgrifennodd Milos Sramek:

Hi,

maybe that you have already noticed - strings of extended tooltips
started to appear in the UI strings, there are currently 170 of them.
Originally, they were a part of the help files, where they were marked
by the  tag. There are currently 6000+ extended tooltips there.

This means that their translations need to to be transferred from the
help files to the UI files (I exclude the option to translate them again).

Maybe the developers will solve this somehow.

Meanwhile I have written a script etiptrans.py which can do that. Its
usage is as simple as this 4 commands

     etiptrans.py -p ui -l sk download

     etiptrans.py -p help -l sk download

     etiptrans.py -p ui -l sk transfer

     etiptrans.py -p ui -l sk upload

The required access key is taken from an environment variable. It runs
in Linux environment, I think that the Windows 10 Linux environment is
also OK.

The script can do a little more, like checking which files were modified
or what has been changed. It can also transfer  tips from UI to help -
if you already have translated them in UI, but they are not translated
in help. If you want to translate locally (by poedit or so), the script
can help in downloading and uploading files.

It can be used individually for each language by individual translators,
but perhaps also for all languages by somebody who has the required rights.

Do we have a place where to put it, so that anybody can download it?. It
is finished, but needs more testing.  I have to write some documentation


best

Milos


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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Large increase in translation strings

2020-09-01 Thread Rhoslyn Prys


Thanks guys for the support and commiseration. :-)

It will take c. 6 months to work my way through this. I use Poedit Pro 
to assist with the translations, it's good but needs editing. My main 
concern now is that I'll miss more important UI stuff being added as the 
'extended help tips project' maerial is spread across a number of the 
main files and am likely to miss newer, more important developments.


Is there any way of being able to identify new content coming through 
and separate them from the 'extended help tips project'?



Ar 01/09/2020 13:42, ysgrifennodd Baurzhan Muftakhidinov:

Hello,

On Sat, Aug 29, 2020 at 12:04 AM Milos Sramek  wrote:

Hi,
yes, we poor guys who do not have Help translated get now hundreds of
untranslated strings.

Exactly, especially hard for teams with limited number of participants (like 1).


To translate them I use the ImTranslator extension (on firefox, but I
think is available also for Chrome):
https://about.imtranslator.net/add-ons/add-on-for-firefox/

It speeds up translation significantly

If on Windows, QTranslator works perfectly.

Best regards,


Milos



On 8/28/20 3:46 PM, Mihkel Tõnnov wrote:

Hi Rhoslyn,

Rhoslyn Prys () kirjutas 28.08.2020 kell 15:05:


I've logged into Weblate this morning and found that there is a huge
number of translations requested for the Welsh translation. It looks
something like 34,000+ words. We were at 100% for LibreOffice 7.

Is this correct? Thanks.


The bulk of them should be the extended help tips, which are in the process
of being copied from Help into UI.
As Help hasn't been translated into Welsh, then previously these tips would
have been shown to users in English.

Best regards,
Mihkel
Estonian team


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[libreoffice-l10n] Large increase in translation strings

2020-08-28 Thread Rhoslyn Prys

I've logged into Weblate this morning and found that there is a huge 
number of translations requested for the Welsh translation. It looks 
something like 34,000+ words. We were at 100% for LibreOffice 7.


Is this correct? Thanks.

Rhoslyn Prys

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[libreoffice-l10n] Search in Weblate

2020-08-06 Thread Rhoslyn Prys


Does anyone know how to search for a string in Weblate?

The Weblate Guide says WIP, but has anyone any ideas?

Thanks 

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] LibreOffice 7.0 banner for translation

2020-07-31 Thread Rhoslyn Prys


Thanks Mike, here's the Welsh version:

Cyflym - Cydnaws - Defnyddiol

Rhos

Ar 29/07/2020 16:58, ysgrifennodd Mike Saunders:

Hello,

I've created this banner, that we can use for social media and other
things around the LibreOffice 7.0 launch:

https://blog.documentfoundation.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/LO70_banner_tagline_hires.png

If anyone wants me to make a localised version, just post your
translation of the three words "Performance - Compatibility - Usability"
and I'll put them into the dark blue bar. Here's what I did for German,
for instance:

https://de.blog.documentfoundation.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/7/2020/07/LO70_banner_tagline_hires_DE.png

Note that the English uses nouns, and the German version adjectives, so
feel free to play around and use whatever's best for your language. The
main goal is to show those three focal points of the release!


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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Keeping system requirements up-to-date

2019-12-03 Thread Rhoslyn Prys


Done, but...

According to 
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/cloud-platform/windows-server-comparison


Microsoft also have more recent versions of Windows Server - 2016 and 2019.

Does LibreOffice run on those, should they be included? Thanks.

Rhos

Ar 02/12/2019 12:40, ysgrifennodd Mike Saunders:

Hello everyone,

An Italian LibreOffice user on Facebook asked me if the software works
on Windows 10. I saw that the system requirements page here doesn't
mention Windows 10 (or Windows Server 2012):

https://it.libreoffice.org/supporto/requisiti-sistema/

If maintainers of native-lang sites can check that the requirements are
up-to-date, that'd be super appreciated :-) Here's the English version
for reference:

https://de.libreoffice.org/get-help/system-requirements/

Cheers,
Mike


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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Weblate; error uploading files

2019-11-26 Thread Rhoslyn Prys

Thanks Christian for the explanation. Weblate accepted the translation 
file back without the 'fix' being made.


Ar 25/11/2019 12:09, ysgrifennodd Christian Lohmaier:

Hi Rhoslyn, *,

On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 12:23 PM Rhoslyn Prys  wrote:

Yes, I'm getting the same messages:

" Please fix errors in the form.
Error in parameter method: This field is required. "

So I guess same cause here - not picking one of the upload modes.


I downloaded cu/messages and translated it in Poedit. Poedit is
complaining about:

format specification in 'msgid' and 'msgstr' for argument 1 are not the same

#. pA7RB
#: cui/inc/tipoftheday.hrc:208
#, c-format
msgctxt "RID_CUI_TIPOFTHEDAY"
msgid "When you're creating a Style based on another, you can enter a
percentage value or a point value (e.g. 110% or -2pt or +5pt)."
msgstr "Wrth greu Arddull yn seiliedig ar un arall, gallwch nodi gwerth
canrannol neu werth pwynt (e.e. 110% neu -2pt neu +5pt)."

it thinks the string is some placeholder string, so false positive.
it has c-format label, and there placeholders have the form
%[parameter][flags][width][.precision][length]type

A space would be a valid flag (add space for positive number, but a
"-" for negative values) - so "% o" from source string and "% n" are
different, hence it complains/warns.
But that's not the cause of the error


I'm not clear what error is here.

the c-format label on the string is misleading/wrong technically. If
it were used as a c-format/placeholder string, the percent signs would
have to be escaped:
… 110%% or -2pt…
but the string is not used as a placeholder string, so the c-format is
added errornously by xgettext - the strings from hrc files are
extracted using this command:
xgettext -C --add-comments --keyword=NC_:1c,2 --keyword=NNC_:1c,2,3
--from-code=UTF-8 --no-wrap cui/inc/tipoftheday.hrc -o
/tmp/messages.po

But seems the strings in the file don't use c-string style placeholder
definitions for all strings, but a mix of  $1 ... $2 style and also %1
or $(ARG1) $(ARG2)...
only 16 strings seems to be using c-style format like this:
NC_("SV_STDTEXT_SERVICENOTAVAILABLE", "The component (%s) could not be
loaded.\nPlease start setup with the repair option.")
But even then it is not real c-format string, but later replaced by a
find and replace (so the placeholder can be anything)

All others use a freestyle-way of placholder %SOMELABEL, the $1 style,
the %1 style or $(ARG1) style...
So "fix" for the bogus warning is to change the xgettext invocation to
not assume C++ format strings/strip the c-format label from the
result.


Any ideas? I'm not sure it's creating
the above error, though.

The warning is unrelated.
Make sure to pick a file-upload-mode and uploading should work.

ciao

Christian


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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Weblate; error uploading files

2019-11-26 Thread Rhoslyn Prys

Yes, I guessed that, you would have thought that that could have been
dealt with via individual profiles, as other on-line translation
machines do.

Thanks, Sveinn :-)

Ar 25/11/2019 15:00, ysgrifennodd Sveinn í Felli:

Hi Rhoslyn;

The option 'Add as translation needing review' may not be of obvious
use unless you are aware of that Weblate is used by a respectable
bunch of different projects - and that some of them (very few
actually, but I know about a couple of projects) do insist on
reviewing each and every string - and worse: the whole language is not
available unless all strings are translated and reviewed before
deadline...

This is of course absurd for many one-man-show language teams, and
IMHO should be up to each language team to decide whether to use it or
not.

So, that feature may not concern us, but in some cases it does.

Best regards,
Sveinn í Felli

Þann 25.11.2019 14:06, skrifaði Rhoslyn Prys:

Thanks Christian,

None of those choices made much sense to me. I was looking for a
Import translation (I'm happy with it, and don't want to do anything
else with it...) choice.

After a lot of trial and error I found that it's best to choose 'Add
as translation needing review', although it didn't need a review.

Using 'Overwrite existing translations...' took a long time, up to 6
minutes.

All looks OK now. Thanks.

Rhos

Ar 25/11/2019 10:53, ysgrifennodd Christian Lohmaier:

Hi Sveinn, *,

On Thu, Nov 21, 2019 at 8:33 AM Sveinn í Felli wrote:

I have been trying to upload files through the Weblate instance, but
every time the same error message appears:

" Please fix errors in the form.
Error in parameter method: This field is required. "
As I didn't have any problem updloading a file with the change you
described:
https://vm137.documentfoundation.org/translate/libo_ui-master/cuimessages/is/?checksum=54e51525910b6a67

I assume you just didn't pick one of the file-upload modes. You need
to tell weblate how to treat the uploaded strings.
Whether they should be made as suggestions or flagged as fuzzy or
flagged as need review or just committed as-is.

You can then further limit to what strings in the uploaded file that
setting should apply to. You can tell weblate to ignore strings that
are flagged as fuzzy in the po file, and you can also tell weblate to
not overwerite strings that have been translated in weblate already.

Has anyone been able to upload a file to our Weblate?

Yes - and just tried with the component/file you had problems with. So
please double-check whether you did pick a file upload mode.

I guess the bug in weblate is that it doesn't tell what field is
required, just that "This" field is required and hoping that you know
which field is meant ;-)

ciao
Christian

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Weblate; error uploading files

2019-11-25 Thread Rhoslyn Prys

Thanks Christian,

None of those choices made much sense to me. I was looking for a Import
translation (I'm happy with it, and don't want to do anything else with
it...) choice.

After a lot of trial and error I found that it's best to choose 'Add as
translation needing review', although it didn't need a review.

Using 'Overwrite existing translations...' took a long time, up to 6
minutes.

All looks OK now. Thanks.

Rhos

Ar 25/11/2019 10:53, ysgrifennodd Christian Lohmaier:

Hi Sveinn, *,

On Thu, Nov 21, 2019 at 8:33 AM Sveinn í Felli wrote:

I have been trying to upload files through the Weblate instance, but
every time the same error message appears:

" Please fix errors in the form.
Error in parameter method: This field is required. "

As I didn't have any problem updloading a file with the change you described:
https://vm137.documentfoundation.org/translate/libo_ui-master/cuimessages/is/?checksum=54e51525910b6a67
I assume you just didn't pick one of the file-upload modes. You need
to tell weblate how to treat the uploaded strings.
Whether they should be made as suggestions or flagged as fuzzy or
flagged as need review or just committed as-is.

Has anyone been able to upload a file to our Weblate?

Yes - and just tried with the component/file you had problems with. So
please double-check whether you did pick a file upload mode.

I guess the bug in weblate is that it doesn't tell what field is
required, just that "This" field is required and hoping that you know
which field is meant ;-)

ciao
Christian

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Weblate, where we stand currently

2019-11-22 Thread Rhoslyn Prys

What was good about Pootle was that Dwayne and his team were very 
focused on ease of use for translators. That was his priority, to 
encourage translators to get involved in providing translations, 
especially in minority languages for major software programs. He gave me 
a lot of encouragement and helped me to transfer to Pootle from the 
awful setup Mozilla had at the time.


It's a big loss not to have Pootle being developed and a bigger loss 
that the ideas have been lost - anyone seen an easy translatiors guide 
to Weblate - https://docs.weblate.org/en/latest/ ?  It's all admin stuff.


Ar 21/11/2019 19:56, ysgrifennodd Valter Mura:

Hi All

Il 20/11/19 11:29, sophi ha scritto:

Hi Yaron,

Le 19/11/2019 à 23:01, Yaron Shahrabani a écrit :
Which parts of this feedback was shared with Michal, the lead 
developer of

Weblate?
Is there any documentation about the reported bugs and where they 
stand?


Weblate bug reports are here: 
https://github.com/WeblateOrg/weblate/issues

i
I'm asking because I think that if the suggestion is to try and 
develop a
new system instead of investing in Weblate I believe it's a waste of 
time.


Where did you see that suggestion to develop a new system? I wrote that
we share forces with other open source projects using or migrating to
Weblate and Michal is part of the discussion.


Sharing forces is very important. Also Weblate seems to be a very good 
software.


But I wonder, and this is OT: what about sharing or adding forces to 
develop and maintain Pootle? Could Pootle be integrated in the TDF 
process, or be part of a joint venture, for example, between open 
source entities like TDF, KDE, OpenSuse, etc.?


Sorry for the OT, IMHO it's a pity leaving a so good and easy-to-use 
tool :)


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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Weblate; error uploading files

2019-11-22 Thread Rhoslyn Prys

I tried uploading sfx2/messages I'd downloaded from Weblate, no Pootle 
error message, but got the same response from Weblate:


" Please fix errors in the form.
Error in parameter method: This field is required. "

Ar 22/11/2019 11:22, ysgrifennodd Rhoslyn Prys:

Yes, I'm getting the same messages:

" Please fix errors in the form.
Error in parameter method: This field is required. "

I downloaded cu/messages and translated it in Poedit. Poedit is 
complaining about:


format specification in 'msgid' and 'msgstr' for argument 1 are not 
the same


#. pA7RB
#: cui/inc/tipoftheday.hrc:208
#, c-format
msgctxt "RID_CUI_TIPOFTHEDAY"
msgid "When you're creating a Style based on another, you can enter a 
percentage value or a point value (e.g. 110% or -2pt or +5pt)."
msgstr "Wrth greu Arddull yn seiliedig ar un arall, gallwch nodi 
gwerth canrannol neu werth pwynt (e.e. 110% neu -2pt neu +5pt)."


I'm not clear what error is here. Any ideas? I'm not sure it's 
creating the above error, though.



Ar 21/11/2019 07:33, ysgrifennodd Sveinn í Felli:

Hi everyone;

I have been trying to upload files through the Weblate instance, but 
every time the same error message appears:


" Please fix errors in the form.
Error in parameter method: This field is required. "

Has anyone been able to upload a file to our Weblate?

Best,
Sveinn í Felli

To Christian et al.:
I even made a test; downloaded one file 
<https://weblate.documentfoundation.org/projects/libo_ui-master/cuimessages/is/> 
from which I had beforehand corrected all errors and therefore had 
already been handled by Weblate.


This file I opened in a text editor and filled in one missing 
translation:

#. NG4jW
#: cui/inc/tipoftheday.hrc:258
msgctxt "STR_MORE_LINK"
msgid "More info"
msgstr "Nánari upplýsingar"

Saved the file and tried to upload, but the same error appeared again.

Verified the file with:
$ msgfmt -vc 3libo_ui-master-cuimessages-is.po -o 
3libo_ui-master-cuimessages-is.mo
3libo_ui-master-cuimessages-is.po:2: warning: header field 
'PO-Revision-Date' still has the initial default value
3libo_ui-master-cuimessages-is.po:2: warning: header field 
'Last-Translator' still has the initial default value

2270 translated messages, 326 untranslated messages.

Took a look at the header; nothing unusual although both 
"PO-Revision-Date" and "Last-Translator" fields are untouched 
(original default values). The field "Language-Team" had some 
Weblate-gibberish extending over a couple of lines, so I tried to put 
in some reasonable values:

"PO-Revision-Date: 2019-11-21 06:41+\n"
"Last-Translator: Sveinn í Felli \n"
"Language-Team: Icelandic \n"

Verified the file with:
$ msgfmt -vc libo_ui-master-cuimessages-is.po -o 
libo_ui-master-cuimessages-is.mo

2270 translated messages, 326 untranslated messages.

Uploaded this file but all the same; Weblate refuses to cooperate.

I think I have already mentioned this problem on this ML because it's 
not just this Weblate-instance which has these symptoms; uploading 
worked w/o hickups until (if I remember correctly) Weblate 3.7 came 
into production. I'm also working on several other projects on 
various different Weblate-instances; some are affected by this and 
others are not. I'm not able to see any pattern or common attributes 
for the projects that fail.



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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Weblate; error uploading files

2019-11-22 Thread Rhoslyn Prys


Yes, I'm getting the same messages:

" Please fix errors in the form.
Error in parameter method: This field is required. "

I downloaded cu/messages and translated it in Poedit. Poedit is 
complaining about:


format specification in 'msgid' and 'msgstr' for argument 1 are not the same

#. pA7RB
#: cui/inc/tipoftheday.hrc:208
#, c-format
msgctxt "RID_CUI_TIPOFTHEDAY"
msgid "When you're creating a Style based on another, you can enter a 
percentage value or a point value (e.g. 110% or -2pt or +5pt)."
msgstr "Wrth greu Arddull yn seiliedig ar un arall, gallwch nodi gwerth 
canrannol neu werth pwynt (e.e. 110% neu -2pt neu +5pt)."


I'm not clear what error is here. Any ideas? I'm not sure it's creating 
the above error, though.



Ar 21/11/2019 07:33, ysgrifennodd Sveinn í Felli:

Hi everyone;

I have been trying to upload files through the Weblate instance, but 
every time the same error message appears:


" Please fix errors in the form.
Error in parameter method: This field is required. "

Has anyone been able to upload a file to our Weblate?

Best,
Sveinn í Felli

To Christian et al.:
I even made a test; downloaded one file 
<https://weblate.documentfoundation.org/projects/libo_ui-master/cuimessages/is/> 
from which I had beforehand corrected all errors and therefore had 
already been handled by Weblate.


This file I opened in a text editor and filled in one missing 
translation:

#. NG4jW
#: cui/inc/tipoftheday.hrc:258
msgctxt "STR_MORE_LINK"
msgid "More info"
msgstr "Nánari upplýsingar"

Saved the file and tried to upload, but the same error appeared again.

Verified the file with:
$ msgfmt -vc 3libo_ui-master-cuimessages-is.po -o 
3libo_ui-master-cuimessages-is.mo
3libo_ui-master-cuimessages-is.po:2: warning: header field 
'PO-Revision-Date' still has the initial default value
3libo_ui-master-cuimessages-is.po:2: warning: header field 
'Last-Translator' still has the initial default value

2270 translated messages, 326 untranslated messages.

Took a look at the header; nothing unusual although both 
"PO-Revision-Date" and "Last-Translator" fields are untouched 
(original default values). The field "Language-Team" had some 
Weblate-gibberish extending over a couple of lines, so I tried to put 
in some reasonable values:

"PO-Revision-Date: 2019-11-21 06:41+\n"
"Last-Translator: Sveinn í Felli \n"
"Language-Team: Icelandic \n"

Verified the file with:
$ msgfmt -vc libo_ui-master-cuimessages-is.po -o 
libo_ui-master-cuimessages-is.mo

2270 translated messages, 326 untranslated messages.

Uploaded this file but all the same; Weblate refuses to cooperate.

I think I have already mentioned this problem on this ML because it's 
not just this Weblate-instance which has these symptoms; uploading 
worked w/o hickups until (if I remember correctly) Weblate 3.7 came 
into production. I'm also working on several other projects on various 
different Weblate-instances; some are affected by this and others are 
not. I'm not able to see any pattern or common attributes for the 
projects that fail.



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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Weblate -downloading the cy-GB tranlation of LibreOffice UI Master

2019-11-19 Thread Rhoslyn Prys


Thanks for your reply.

The problem is that you have moved to a new platform with out it being 
set up properly and proper testing. Saying things like 'Not an easy one 
at the moment, we are working to provide a solution' and '...we are also 
working on adding...' shows a lack of consideration for your translators 
who contribute freely of their precious time. Why not ask a small group 
of translators to get involved in developing a new platform, whilst the 
rest continue until it's bullet-proof?


I know Pootle is not being supported, I had a chat with one of the 
ex-devs recently, but it's not broken, LibreOffice Weblate as is is not 
fit for purpose, it may never be, it was not set up for a large project 
like LO.


Have you considered Mozilla's Pontoon? LO's senario is similar to 
Mozilla's with Pootle's demise. It's a large scale +100 language 
translation tool using .po files, that may fit better than Weblate.


Weblate UI translation ( 
https://hosted.weblate.org/translate/weblate/master/cy/?type=todo=10#machine 
) includes machine translation by Google and Microsoft. Are these going 
to be included? They work well for Welsh. Something was appearing at 
times under the Machine Translation tab, whilst I worked on the strings. 
I though it was the delay. I'd translated the string by the time the 
response appeared.


I notice that there are new strings on Pootle LibreOffice 6.3 - UI - 
(https://translations.documentfoundation.org/cy/) are these the new 
strings in Weblate or are they different?


Are we still using Pootle?

Ar 19/11/2019 16:01, ysgrifennodd sophi:

Hi Rhoslyn,
Le 18/11/2019 à 18:58, Rhoslyn Prys a écrit :

Is there a way to download and upload the complete set of  po files in
LibreOffice UI Master in Weblate?

Not an easy one at the moment, we are working to provide a solution

I've been doing some translation in Weblate and it's not working for me.
No translation memory, machine translation is slow or non existent, grey
print that does my glaucoma no good... I did not expect to be
retranslating common words in a project of this size and age. Saving
each string takes about 5 - 25 seconds.

So I'll sort your request one by one:
- translation memory: we are also working on adding Amagama
(https://github.com/translate/amagama), Christian is on it, to solve
this problem
- what do you mean by machine translation, you mean propagation of same
translations?
- could you let me know exactly where is the grey print?
- saving should not take you so long, from the feedback we had, it was
when going backward.

Pootle was better than this.  Why put us through this?

Because as I wrote already Pootle is not maintained any more, we have to
find a replacement for it. We are still in adjustment period trying to
find the best solutions for all of us. I'll post another mail with the
actual status on where we stand, please read it.

Cheers
Sophie


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[libreoffice-l10n] Weblate -downloading the cy-GB tranlation of LibreOffice UI Master

2019-11-18 Thread Rhoslyn Prys

Is there a way to download and upload the complete set of  po files in 
LibreOffice UI Master in Weblate?


I've been doing some translation in Weblate and it's not working for me. 
No translation memory, machine translation is slow or non existent, grey 
print that does my glaucoma no good... I did not expect to be 
retranslating common words in a project of this size and age. Saving 
each string takes about 5 - 25 seconds.


Pootle was better than this.  Why put us through this?

Thanks

Rhos-

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] cui strings

2019-08-14 Thread Rhoslyn Prys

The dangers of working off-line and not on the most recent files... 
Apologies, I've updated to yesterday's download file and it has many 
changes and updates. It should be OK now... :-)


Ar 13/08/2019 13:07, ysgrifennodd Rhoslyn Prys:
These tips have appeared in English only the Welsh LibreOffice 6.3.0.4 
(x64).


I've started to translate them but there are some issues with the 
English content and some paths I could not track:


English

New versions do not bring that new features and bug fixes. They also 
include security patches. Be safe, put yourself updated!


Calc›Format›Page›Sheet Tab›Print:Grid can avoid you draw borders

Surprised that Writer adds blank pages in a mailing? Would you like to 
have a recipient letter to the back of another (Duplexing)?


Typing in bold italics or underlined in Writer you can continue with 
the default attributes using only the shortcut Ctrl+Shift+X


Looking WordArt in LibreOffice? Click Fontwork gallery in the Drawing 
Toolbar


Paths:

You don't like the selection color ? Uncheck or modify 
Tools›Options›LibreOffice›View›Selection›Transparency


Calc: To display the scrollbar to the left Check 
Tools›Options›Language Settings›Languages›Complex text & 
Format›Sheet›Right-To-Left


Left-handed? Check Tools›Options›Language Settings›Languages›Asian & 
Writer›View›Ruler›Right-aligned Displays the scrollbar to the left


Are these due a further QA check or are they ready for translation?
Rhos


Ar 07/05/2019 09:22, ysgrifennodd Martin Srebotnjak:

The new tips are written for Windows, not for macOS (the menu path for
Settings command/dialog is different on macOS so the tips should have
optional text/menu paths for macOS).

Lp, m.

V V sob., 27. apr. 2019 ob 15:50 je oseba Cor Nouws 
napisala:


ml.nishibori.kiyot...@gmail.com wrote on 4/27/19 3:46 PM:

These strings are tips displayed as "Tips of the day" which may be new
feature of comming LibreOffice 6.3.

And the strings are under review currently, so if translation can be
done a bit later, that's more efficient ;)

Greetings,
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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] cui strings

2019-08-13 Thread Rhoslyn Prys

These tips have appeared in English only the Welsh LibreOffice 6.3.0.4 
(x64).


I've started to translate them but there are some issues with the 
English content and some paths I could not track:


English

New versions do not bring that new features and bug fixes. They also 
include security patches. Be safe, put yourself updated!


Calc›Format›Page›Sheet Tab›Print:Grid can avoid you draw borders

Surprised that Writer adds blank pages in a mailing? Would you like to 
have a recipient letter to the back of another (Duplexing)?


Typing in bold italics or underlined in Writer you can continue with the 
default attributes using only the shortcut Ctrl+Shift+X


Looking WordArt in LibreOffice? Click Fontwork gallery in the Drawing 
Toolbar


Paths:

You don't like the selection color ? Uncheck or modify 
Tools›Options›LibreOffice›View›Selection›Transparency


Calc: To display the scrollbar to the left Check Tools›Options›Language 
Settings›Languages›Complex text & Format›Sheet›Right-To-Left


Left-handed? Check Tools›Options›Language Settings›Languages›Asian & 
Writer›View›Ruler›Right-aligned Displays the scrollbar to the left


Are these due a further QA check or are they ready for translation?
Rhos


Ar 07/05/2019 09:22, ysgrifennodd Martin Srebotnjak:

The new tips are written for Windows, not for macOS (the menu path for
Settings command/dialog is different on macOS so the tips should have
optional text/menu paths for macOS).

Lp, m.

V V sob., 27. apr. 2019 ob 15:50 je oseba Cor Nouws 
napisala:


ml.nishibori.kiyot...@gmail.com wrote on 4/27/19 3:46 PM:

These strings are tips displayed as "Tips of the day" which may be new
feature of comming LibreOffice 6.3.

And the strings are under review currently, so if translation can be
done a bit later, that's more efficient ;)

Greetings,
Cor
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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] accest to Silver Stripe Server

2019-02-08 Thread Rhoslyn Prys


Thanks Sophie, when I login unsing my user name and password I'n sent to

https://www.libreoffice.org/Security/login?BackURL=%2Fadmin%2Fpages

and get an error message:


 Server error

Sorry, there was a problem with handling your request.

This has not happened in the past. How do I get to the SiolverStripe 
pages to update them.


Thanks

Rhos

Ar 07/02/2019 15:19, ysgrifennodd sophi:

Hi Rhoslyn,

Le 07/02/2019 à 16:08, Rhoslyn Prys a écrit :

I'm getting a 'Server error' message when attmpting to access Silver
Stripe to update cy.libreoffice.org.

Is it possible to hav a copy of any changes mate to the libreoffice.org
websit following the 6.2 launch?

I'm not sure if there have been changes to the access proceedures since
6.1?

We are using an SSO to connect to the services, do you already have an
account here: https://user.documentfoundation.org/ ?
If not, please create one and if you still meet issues, let me know
Cheers
Sophie


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[libreoffice-l10n] accest to Silver Stripe Server

2019-02-07 Thread Rhoslyn Prys

I'm getting a 'Server error' message when attmpting to access Silver 
Stripe to update cy.libreoffice.org.


Is it possible to hav a copy of any changes mate to the libreoffice.org 
websit following the 6.2 launch?


I'm not sure if there have been changes to the access proceedures since 
6.1?


Rhos


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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Text for "New Features" page for translation, after LO 6.1 release

2018-08-07 Thread Rhoslyn Prys

Yes, please :-)

Rhoslyn Prys

Ar 7 Awst 2018 12:15:24 GMT+01:00, ysgrifennodd Mike Saunders 
:
>Hello everyone,
>
>When LibreOffice 6.1 is released tomorrow, I will update this page:
>
>https://www.libreoffice.org/discover/new-features/
>
>The updated text is below, for those who want to translate it for their
>own sites. Would it be easier if I paste the full HTML for the section,
>from the SilverStripe interface?
>
>
>
>Great new features developed by our community
>
>LibreOffice 6.1 includes two fresh new icon themes: Colibre, which is
>now the default on Windows, and Karasa Jaga. In addition, image
>handling
>has been improved, making the software faster and more responsive,
>while
>new fill gradients, help files and interface translations make this the
>best LibreOffice ever.
>
>
>Word processing at the next level
>
>Writer's EPUB export filter has been improved, helping you to create
>e-books from your documents. In the header and footer menus, new
>options
>let you quickly add page numbers and page counts, while new chapter
>numbering styles, which spell out cardinal and ordinal numbers, are now
>available. Finally, it's now possible to generate a signature line
>using
>Insert > Signature Line.
>
>
>Take your spreadsheets further
>
>In Calc, images that are anchored to cells can now be sorted. In
>addition, there are now three anchor types: to a cell, as usual; to a
>cell with resizing when the cell size changes; and to a page. When
>linking a sheet to external data, CSV files can now be used as data
>sources. And as an extra bonus, the options dialog lets you customise
>cell highlight colours.
>
>
>Pristine presentations and drawings
>
>In Impress and Draw, new drawing styles have been added, while existing
>ones have been cleaned up. Also, the menu in Draw was reorganised to be
>more intuitive, and a new Page menu was added.
>
>
>LibreOffice Online - your office suite, anywhere
>
>In LibreOffice Online, the cloud-based version of the suite, many new
>dialog boxes have been added, including spelling and grammar, cell
>formatting and area fill. In Calc, it's now possible to collapse or
>expand any group of columns or rows with a single click. Finally,
>performance and security has been improved as well.
>
>
>Further details
>
>For a full list of new features in LibreOffice 6.1, see our release
>notes.
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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] LibreOffice Online instance to check your translation

2018-01-18 Thread Rhoslyn Prys


Thanks for your efforts on this.

Rhos

Ar 17/01/2018 09:38, ysgrifennodd Andras Timar:

I reported it as a bug, just in case.
https://github.com/nextcloud/server/issues/7925

On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 10:25 PM, Andras Timar <tima...@gmail.com> wrote:


Hi Rhos,

This is embarrassing, but it seems that Nextcloud does not have Welsh
localization, while ownCloud has (on demo.collaboracloudsuite.com). I
found cy_GB files in the settings/l10n/ folder of Nextcloud, so in theory
the Welsh language should be selectable at Settings. Maybe it's a Nextcloud
bug. I'm sorry about that.

LO Online has the Welsh localization, but you cannot switch to that
currently. I hope that the situation will improve after some time, this is
a bleeding edge test server with latest versions of all components
(Nextcloud, LibreOffice, LibreOffice Online).

Best regards,
Andras

On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 6:03 PM, Rhoslyn Prys <libreoff...@meddal.com>
wrote:


Hi Sophie. This instance does not include the Welsh translation of LO
Online. Could it be updated, please. The Welsh version of 10.04 is still
here:

https://demo.collaboracloudsuite.com/tdf/index.php/apps/file
s/?dir=/=1881

Thanks

Rhos

Ar 16/01/2018 03:47, ysgrifennodd Sophie:


Hi all,

For those interested in checking their translation of LibreOffice
Online, Andras has set a server and Guilhem has integrated LDAP.
It is available here:
Server address:
https://8de8bb4a-e089-44e4-9fc5-bc97b4c3eb89.pub.cloud.scaleway.com/

Login credentials:
Your TDF LDAP, all users can use this resource

It has Nextcloud 13.0 RC1, and LibreOffice Online from the master
branch, plus the latest translations from TDF Pootle. I'll update the
instance regularly.

Language is switched according to browser setting, but
it can be forced at
https://8de8bb4a-e089-44e4-9fc5-bc97b4c3eb89.pub.cloud.scale
way.com/nextcloud/index.php/settings/user

If you find bugs, please report them on our bugzilla. Don't hesitate to
ask if you have any question.

Thanks to Andras and Guilhem for their work on that :)

Cheers
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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] LibreOffice Online instance to check your translation

2018-01-17 Thread Rhoslyn Prys

Hi Sophie. This instance does not include the Welsh translation of LO 
Online. Could it be updated, please. The Welsh version of 10.04 is still 
here:


https://demo.collaboracloudsuite.com/tdf/index.php/apps/files/?dir=/=1881

Thanks

Rhos

Ar 16/01/2018 03:47, ysgrifennodd Sophie:

Hi all,

For those interested in checking their translation of LibreOffice
Online, Andras has set a server and Guilhem has integrated LDAP.
It is available here:
Server address:
https://8de8bb4a-e089-44e4-9fc5-bc97b4c3eb89.pub.cloud.scaleway.com/

Login credentials:
Your TDF LDAP, all users can use this resource

It has Nextcloud 13.0 RC1, and LibreOffice Online from the master
branch, plus the latest translations from TDF Pootle. I'll update the
instance regularly.

Language is switched according to browser setting, but
it can be forced at
https://8de8bb4a-e089-44e4-9fc5-bc97b4c3eb89.pub.cloud.scaleway.com/nextcloud/index.php/settings/user

If you find bugs, please report them on our bugzilla. Don't hesitate to
ask if you have any question.

Thanks to Andras and Guilhem for their work on that :)

Cheers
Sophie



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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Please read: minutes of ESC meeting

2017-10-18 Thread Rhoslyn Prys

Yes, yes, yes! Thank you Yury for these suggestions. Maybe Dwayne could 
comment on feasibility?


Rhos

Ar 17/10/2017 10:11, ysgrifennodd Michael Bauer:

+1 to all of these.

Michael

Sgrìobh Yury Tarasievich na leanas 17/10/2017 aig 08:39:
Some thoughts for guys capable of implementing. Of course, I have no 
idea whether any of these are feasible.


So, change in English string (tEh original) brings some checks with 
the previous value:

1) capitalisation changed? set flag 1
2) shortcut markup changed (like _ to &)? set flag 2
3) typography changed (like ... to …)? set flag 3
4) something else which nobody in the world *needs* to react to?

Then, the flags for the strings are checked against the matrix of 
'action values' for those flags and languages.


Just sketching:
'ru', caps=no_reaction, shortcut=autochange (change just the marker 
in the translated), typography=autochange (no error if there's no 
corresponding), words_changed=react (!)


No 'criticality' in the matrix means the new original is set with the 
'NONCRITICAL' (not FUZZY!) flag (needs to be implemented, at least in 
the online l10n system?). The team would wish to see and check those 
changes, after all.

And even one 'criticality' sets the FUZZY flag, etc.

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] 11k new?

2017-10-09 Thread Rhoslyn Prys

Sophie, is it possible to check up on this issue? It seems an a big 
piece of work and as it's happened before I'm a bit reticent to get 
stuck in. It was 7,000+ for Welsh. Thanks.


Rhos

Ar 09/10/2017 10:38, ysgrifennodd Michael Bauer:
Is the 11k new real in LO Master or is this like last time lots of 
100% matches that ought to get matched automatically?


It looks to me, at a casual glance that it's the same silliness as 
last time, i.e. almost all matches that should be automated.


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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] LibreOffice website - 5.4 New Features page - HTML for translation

2017-08-02 Thread Rhoslyn Prys


Yes, please do that. Thanks

Rhos


Ar 02/08/2017 10:46, ysgrifennodd Mike Saunders:

Hi Rhos,

On 02/08/2017 11:06, Rhoslyn Prys wrote:

Mike, I used your original code, what changes have you made? Thanks.

It was to do with the collapsable panels and anchors on the page, but
I've just fixed the code on the Welsh page as well.

On a related note, the link to the Welsh site isn't active here:

http://www.libreoffice.org/community/nlc/

Is there a reason for that? I can only assume it was offline for a
while, but if the Welsh site is in production, I can put a proper link
in there if you like.

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] LibreOffice website - 5.4 New Features page - HTML for translation

2017-08-02 Thread Rhoslyn Prys


Mike, I used your original code, what changes have you made? Thanks.

Rhos

Ar 29/07/2017 12:16, ysgrifennodd Mike Saunders:

Hi Luca,

On 28/07/2017 21:11, Luca Daghino @ Libero wrote:

There's a little error in the page...
The line


  LibreOffice online - your office suite, anywhere
  

does not show up; if you click on the plus sign you open the above menu
of the Impress line.

Ah yes, a little glitch in the HTML -- thanks for letting me know! I've
fixed it now :-)

Cheers,
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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Minutes of Marketing Call

2017-07-26 Thread Rhoslyn Prys

Will there be changes to the wording of the website? Could a copy be 
available for updating the Welsh website c.28/7?


Thanks

Rhos

Ar 25/07/2017 10:43, ysgrifennodd Italo Vignoli:

1. LibreOffice 5.4 Launch

LibreOffice 5.4 announcement is scheduled for Wednesday, July 26, at 1PM
CEST. Localizations of the press release should be sent to Italo for
distribution. Media pre-briefings have been organized on Monday and
Tuesday, prior to the announcement.

2. Enterprise focused activity (Foad)

Foad is a new member of the community, who has a solid experience in
marketing software to enterprises. He will start a project to interact
with large software vendors such as SAP and SalesForce, to integrate
LibreOffice into their large enterprise software.

3. What about a Telegram marketing group?

Given the success of the Design Group on Telegram, we have created a
LibreOffice Marketing Group to integrate the public marketing mailing
list (which has been rather dormant during the last few months). The
link to subscribe to the group is the following:
https://t.me/LibreOfficeMarketing. As usual, confidential discussions
about marketing strategies and launch activities will continue on the
private marketing mailing list, which is a closed list by invitation.

4. What about a Spanish marketing group?

There is a growing number of people in Spanish speaking countries,
especially in South America, willing to help in promoting LibreOffice in
their geography. It looks like some of these people might have issues in
speaking English, so the idea is to have a Spanish marketing group
(either Telegram or mailing list) where people can discuss in their
native language, with the help of other people who might not be fluent
in Spanish but are willing to help (like Italo, who understands Spanish
but speaks a funny mixture of Italian, Spanish and Portuguese). Comments?



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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Minutes of Marketing Call

2017-07-25 Thread Rhoslyn Prys

Will there be changes to the wording of the website, could a copy be 
available for updating the website c.28/7?


Thanks

Rhos

Ar 25/07/2017 10:43, ysgrifennodd Italo Vignoli:

1. LibreOffice 5.4 Launch

LibreOffice 5.4 announcement is scheduled for Wednesday, July 26, at 1PM
CEST. Localizations of the press release should be sent to Italo for
distribution. Media pre-briefings have been organized on Monday and
Tuesday, prior to the announcement.

2. Enterprise focused activity (Foad)

Foad is a new member of the community, who has a solid experience in
marketing software to enterprises. He will start a project to interact
with large software vendors such as SAP and SalesForce, to integrate
LibreOffice into their large enterprise software.

3. What about a Telegram marketing group?

Given the success of the Design Group on Telegram, we have created a
LibreOffice Marketing Group to integrate the public marketing mailing
list (which has been rather dormant during the last few months). The
link to subscribe to the group is the following:
https://t.me/LibreOfficeMarketing. As usual, confidential discussions
about marketing strategies and launch activities will continue on the
private marketing mailing list, which is a closed list by invitation.

4. What about a Spanish marketing group?

There is a growing number of people in Spanish speaking countries,
especially in South America, willing to help in promoting LibreOffice in
their geography. It looks like some of these people might have issues in
speaking English, so the idea is to have a Spanish marketing group
(either Telegram or mailing list) where people can discuss in their
native language, with the help of other people who might not be fluent
in Spanish but are willing to help (like Italo, who understands Spanish
but speaks a funny mixture of Italian, Spanish and Portuguese). Comments?



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[libreoffice-l10n] Pootle Interface Language

2017-02-22 Thread Rhoslyn Prys

I've noticed today that the interface language in my pages of Pootle has 
changed. Previously I had it in Welsh but now it's in English. How can I 
change it back?


Thanks

Rhos


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[libreoffice-l10n] Preparing for LibreOffice 5.3.0

2017-01-03 Thread Rhoslyn Prys

Sophie , could you update me on plans for the next release, please. I'm 
behind with the translation due to the holidays, issues with Pootle and 
the number of strings to be translated. Having a clear understanding of 
the timetable would help.


1. By when do I need to complete the translation on Pootle? I understand 
that it will be launched 30/01 - 5/02/17.


2. Is there a means to automatically check the access keys, etc? (There 
was talk of this last year, but I never got it to work properly due some 
technical reasons)


3. The website is likely to be updated, where will I find the update and 
what's the date to get that completed?


4. Will there be marketing material available for localisation and how 
do I get hold of it?


Thanks,

Rhos

Welsh translation



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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] 4.3 and 4.4 projects removal from Pootle

2016-04-26 Thread Rhoslyn Prys


cy, Welsh, please.

Ar 18/04/2016 16:56, ysgrifennodd Sophie:

Hi all,

To help Christian doing this once instead of a per language basis, who
is willing to have 4.4 and 4.3 projects removed from Pootle? Please, add
your language in this thread:
-

Thanks in advance!
Cheers
Sophie



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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] 4.3 and 4.4 projects removal from Pootle

2016-04-18 Thread Rhoslyn Prys


cy can be removed.

Ar 18/04/2016 16:56, ysgrifennodd Sophie:

Hi all,

To help Christian doing this once instead of a per language basis, who
is willing to have 4.4 and 4.3 projects removed from Pootle? Please, add
your language in this thread:
-

Thanks in advance!
Cheers
Sophie



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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Pootle rights request [Cy- Cymraeg (Welsh)]

2016-02-08 Thread Rhoslyn Prys

Sorry, I meant the suggestion level, for now. Getting mixed up with the 
terminology.

Rhos

Ar 08/02/2016 11:22, ysgrifennodd Rhoslyn Prys:

We'll see how we get on with the reviewer rights for now.
Thanks
Rhos

Ar 08/02/2016 10:55, ysgrifennodd Michael Bauer:

Bore da Aled,

Right, for now, I've bumped you up to the level where you can suggest 
changes in Pootle yourself. As the lead, Rhoslyn, is quite active and 
comes highly qualified (not all translation in LO may be his) I'm 
copying him in though to check if he's ok with giving you reviewer 
rights so you can implement changes directly.


Rhoslyn, could you comment please?

Cheers

Michael

Sgrìobh Aled Powell na leanas 07/02/2016 aig 22:09:
WithoutPootle rights, Ihave had to report errorsand suggest 
corrections by way of emails to the Welsh project lead, often having 
to give guidance as to the location and context of the strings 
and/or laboriously taking, editing and attaching screenshots. Ifeel 
this is a lot of needless time and effort and is against the spirit 
of openness. 








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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Pootle rights request [Cy- Cymraeg (Welsh)]

2016-02-08 Thread Rhoslyn Prys


We'll see how we get on with the reviewer rights for now.
Thanks
Rhos

Ar 08/02/2016 10:55, ysgrifennodd Michael Bauer:

Bore da Aled,

Right, for now, I've bumped you up to the level where you can suggest 
changes in Pootle yourself. As the lead, Rhoslyn, is quite active and 
comes highly qualified (not all translation in LO may be his) I'm 
copying him in though to check if he's ok with giving you reviewer 
rights so you can implement changes directly.


Rhoslyn, could you comment please?

Cheers

Michael

Sgrìobh Aled Powell na leanas 07/02/2016 aig 22:09:
WithoutPootle rights, Ihave had to report errorsand suggest 
corrections by way of emails to the Welsh project lead, often having 
to give guidance as to the location and context of the strings and/or 
laboriously taking, editing and attaching screenshots. Ifeel this is 
a lot of needless time and effort and is against the spirit of openness. 





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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Basic tool to detect duplicate use of accelerator keys in menus

2015-11-20 Thread Rhoslyn Prys

Has anyone got this to work? It could be handy.
I checked the latest build:
libreoffice-5-0~2015-11-11_12.42.14_LibreOfficeDev_5.0.4.0.0_Win_x86_en-US_de_ar_ja_ru_qtz.msi

and then Tools>Options>User Interface but no qtz.
Any suggestions?
Rhos

Ar 07/10/2015 08:57, ysgrifennodd Niklas Johansson:

No the macro document from before should work, the change is in
LibreOffice.
I haven't back ported the patch to 5.0 yet waiting a bit to see if my
follow-up

patch gets pushed first. Plus I'm a bit short on time at the moment. ;)
But I will likely ask for a back port in the following week or so.

Regards,
Niklas Johansson

Den 2015-10-07 kl. 09:16, skrev Baurzhan Muftakhidinov:

Hi,
Do you have updated macros, or is it still the same? When do you think
your patch will enter regular release, wIll it make to 5.0.x?

Thanks,

On Wed, Oct 7, 2015 at 12:07 PM, Niklas Johansson
wrote:
Last Friday my first patch towards this issue got pushed, so now the
tool

should
work on the master branch, even for non ascii characters.

I did a test with the tool on the language Kazakh, you'll find the
report

below.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/d1yguco1u2w0s6c/Kazakh%20-%20Accelerator%20key%20check%20report.odt?dl=1

Regards,
Niklas Johansson

Den 2015-09-24 kl. 14:12, skrev Baurzhan Muftakhidinov:

Well done, Niklas!
Although It looks like for Cyrillic locales accelerators are not
being put

to result correctly, all I see is little rectangles instead of actual
accellerator letters.
Latin letters are being processed correctly.

Thanks,

On Thu, Sep 24, 2015 at 4:39 PM, Niklas Johansson
wrote:

Hi Michael

Well this is not as big a problem as you make it. Basically you
open the
document I sent a link to earlier. The UI language of LibreOffice
should

be
set to the language that you want to check. Generate the report,
which

will
list all menus and sub-menus and highlight the problematic menu
entries.
Save the file and change the UI language to KeyID and reopen the
report

there. Now you can easily find the exact string in Pootle.

Let me know if you do not know what KeyID is and how to use it.

/Niklas

2015-09-24 11:29 GMT+02:00 Michael Bauer :

Hi Niklas,

This has often been debated but I don't think anything ever
happened.

The
main issue with any such tool is that unless it links to the
unique UI
string, it's not much help because most of the time there are
like 50
incidences of and to make matters worse, we have _Edit and

type
hotkeys and worse still, if I search for Edit and the string is
E,

it
won't get found.

The summary of previous discussions is that if a locale does not
assign
hotkeys, the system does it automatically - which no one tells
you when

you
start out, and while I'd prefer that for our locale, I don't have
the
resources to strip all existing hotkeys. Other than that, there
are the
usual problems of not knowing the scope (i.e. what other UI
strings are
sharing the menu with said string) and restricted letter sets
(Gaelic

has
18 letters, fewer if you ignore letters with descenders...)

Ideally I think we'd need a tool which during localization flags
"Duplicated hotkey in menu scope" + list of strings in scope.
And/or a

tool
that allows locales which do not want to assign hotkeys manually to
strip
them all from the existing files so the system can automatically
deal

with
the issue.

Michael

Sgrìobh Niklas Johansson na leanas 24/09/2015 aig 10:01:

After thinking a bit about it I instead decided to write a small
tool in
basic that uses the accessibility interfaces to traverse the
menus and

print a report in Writer. This makes it possible to run from Linux,
Windows
and even on Mac. You'll find some more information on how to use
the

tool
in the document below (also containing the relevant macros).

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Basic tool to detect duplicate use of accelerator keys in menus

2015-09-25 Thread Rhoslyn Prys

Thanks, Serg.

What I've done - twice on two separate computers, is to install both :
master~2015-09-23_05.16.23_LibreOfficeDev_5.1.0.0.alpha1_Win_x86_en-US_de_ar_ja_ru_qtz.msi
<http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/daily/master/Win-x86@62-merge-TDF/2015-09-23_05.16.23/master%7E2015-09-23_05.16.23_LibreOfficeDev_5.1.0.0.alpha1_Win_x86_en-US_de_ar_ja_ru_qtz.msi>

and
master~2015-09-23_05.16.23_LibreOfficeDev_5.1.0.0.alpha1_Win_x86_helppack_qtz.msi
<http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/daily/master/Win-x86@62-merge-TDF/2015-09-23_05.16.23/master%7E2015-09-23_05.16.23_LibreOfficeDev_5.1.0.0.alpha1_Win_x86_helppack_qtz.msi>

Then I've gone to: Tools>Options>Language Settings>Languages>User Interface.

But all I'm seeing in the dropdown menue is English USA. No KeyID, de, ar, ja
or ru or anything else.

The detail on https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Language does not relate to
what's on the server,
I could'nt find files with langpack_qtz in their name, am I using the wrong
files? If so where are the right files?

KeyID

For major versions, KeyID builds are available in alpha and beta
releases. This special build allows to display the KeyID reference of
each string in the menus and dialogs. It is a available as a language
pack, where the language reference is replaced by *qtz* in the version
name (for example
LibreOfficeDev_4.3.0.0.alpha1_Linux_x86-64_deb_langpack_qtz.tar.gz and
LibreOfficeDev_4.2.0.0.beta2_Linux_x86_deb_langpack_qtz.tar.gz).

To install this lang pack:

* download the package
* depending on your system, install it as usual after installing the
main package
* go under Tools ▸ Options ▸ Language Settings ▸ Languages and change
the *User Interface* to *KeyID*
* when you reopen LibreOffice, you can see now the string reference in
front of each menu and dialog

Thanks
Rhos

Ar 25/09/2015 08:23, ysgrifennodd Serg Bormant:

2015-09-24 19:53 GMT+03:00 Rhoslyn Prys <rp...@yahoo.com>:

But I'm only seeing English USA. I'm not seeing KeyID, nor de, ar, ja or ru.
I'm doing something wrong here.
Any suggestions?

Click Tools - Options - Language Settings - Languages,
then select KeyID in User interface dropbox and restart LO.

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Basic tool to detect duplicate use of accelerator keys in menus

2015-09-24 Thread Rhoslyn Prys

This is great! Plenty of work to do...

I'm having difficulty getting the KeyID to work, I've identified that
the necessary files may be:
master~2015-09-23_05.16.23_LibreOfficeDev_5.1.0.0.alpha1_Win_x86_en-US_de_ar_ja_ru_qtz.msi

and possibly
master~2015-09-23_05.16.23_LibreOfficeDev_5.1.0.0.alpha1_Win_x86_helppack_qtz.msi

and have installed both and followed the instructions: Tools>Options>Language Settings>Languages>User Interface.

But I'm only seeing English USA. I'm not seeing KeyID, nor de, ar, ja or ru.
I'm doing something wrong here.
Any suggestions?
Rhos

Ar 24/09/2015 13:42, ysgrifennodd Niklas Johansson:

Hello again

A short description of how to use KeyID can be found at:
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Language#KeyID

The dialy builds of LibreOffice should contain the KeyID version (has the
language code qtz)
http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/daily/

/Niklas

2015-09-24 14:25 GMT+02:00 Michael Bauer :

I was not aware that it had been implemented, that's good news :)

If you could point me at a page that explains how to KeyID, that would be
great.

Michael

Sgrìobh Niklas Johansson na leanas 24/09/2015 aig 12:39:

Hi Michael

Well this is not as big a problem as you make it. Basically you open the
document I sent a link to earlier. The UI language of LibreOffice should
be
set to the language that you want to check. Generate the report, which
will
list all menus and sub-menus and highlight the problematic menu entries.
Save the file and change the UI language to KeyID and reopen the report
there. Now you can easily find the exact string in Pootle.

Let me know if you do not know what KeyID is and how to use it.

/Niklas

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Welsh language website and other matters

2012-04-06 Thread Rhoslyn Prys


On 01/04/2012 18:19, Rimas Kudelis wrote:

Hello Rhoslyn,

2012.04.01 19:16, Rhoslyn Prys rašė:
Could we set up a Welsh language website for LibreOffice, please? 
Could other elements such as Extenstions Terminology and website also 
be set up in Pootle. We've got some catching up to do...


I've set up Website and Terminology for you. Extensions is out-of-date 
currently and needs updating first (KAMI is working on it), I can 
enable it afterwards.


Rimas



The translations of the Website po files are now complete. Thanks.

Rhoslyn

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[libreoffice-l10n] Welsh language website and other matters

2012-04-01 Thread Rhoslyn Prys

Could we set up a Welsh language website for LibreOffice, please?  Could 
other elements such as Extenstions Terminology and website also be set 
up in Pootle. We've got some catching up to do...


Thanks.

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Welsh language website and other matters

2012-04-01 Thread Rhoslyn Prys


On 01/04/2012 17:38, Michael Bauer wrote:
Oh bother, I kind of enjoyed Scottish Gaelic being ahead you guys for 
a change ;)


Michael

01/04/2012 17:16, sgrìobh Rhoslyn Prys:
Could we set up a Welsh language website for LibreOffice, please?  
Could other elements such as Extenstions Terminology and website also 
be set up in Pootle. We've got some catching up to do...


Thanks. 




The three dots were code for MB  ;-)

Rhos

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[libreoffice-l10n] Welsh translation 3.4 beta3

2011-05-05 Thread Rhoslyn Prys

The Welsh translation for Windows 3.4beta 3 is not on the download page 
- it's marked null.


Can you advise me on how to test for evaluation, QA testing, etc? ;-)

Thanks

Rhos

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Translations from Pootle pushed to git (for 3.4 beta3), bugs to fix

2011-05-02 Thread Rhoslyn Prys


On 01/05/2011 20:26, Andras Timar wrote:

2011.04.30. 22:39 keltezéssel, Rhoslyn Prys írta:

In sw\source\ui\utlui.po

#: poolfmt.src#STR_POOLCOLL_HEADLINE_BASE.string.text
msgctxt poolfmt.src#STR_POOLCOLL_HEADLINE_BASE.string.text
msgid Heading
msgstr Pennawd

#: poolfmt.src#STR_POOLCOLL_LABEL.string.text
msgid Caption
msgstr Pennawd

These translations must be different, because otherwise it can cause a
functional bug.

Best regards,
Andras


Undestood. Done. Thanks :-)


Now STR_POOLCOLL_LABEL clashes with STR_POOLCOLL_DOC_TITEL. :( Both are
Teitl.

Best regards,
Andras


Thanks, changed to Egluryn.

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Translations from Pootle pushed to git (for 3.4 beta3), bugs to fix

2011-04-30 Thread Rhoslyn Prys


On 25/04/2011 10:37, Andras Timar wrote:

Hi,

Today exported updated po files from Pootle and I will push them to
git to the translations module. LibreOffice 3.4 beta 3 will contain
these translation updates.

Please note, however, that there are still bugs in your translations
that need to be fixed ASAP.

Locales with bugs:
as, be, bg, bn, bo, brx, bs, ca-XV, ca, cy, de, dgo, el, eo, et, fa, gl,
gu, he, hi, hr, id, ka, kk, kn, kok, ks, ku, lt, mai, mk, ml, mn, mni,
mr, my, nb, ne, nn, nr, nso, oc, om, or, pl, pt-BR, pt, ro, ru, rw,
sa-IN, sat, sd, sh, sk, sq, sr, st, sv, ta, te, tg, tn, tr, ts, ug, uk,
uz, vi, zh-CN

Log files (from all tools) and error files (from gsicheck tool):
http://ftp.fsf.hu/LibreOffice/3.4-beta3-l10nbugs/

I'll fix the build breakers in git, but please check all bugs in Pootle
and fix them!

Best regards,
Andras



Sorry Andras for the slow response - I've been on holiday... (holiday=no 
pc) :-)
I've corrected the first issue on the cy log but am unsure what to do 
with the second and third. Could you please advice? Thanks.


Error: Translation, Line 100, UniqueID readlicense_oo/docs\readme\readme.xrm/readmeitem/pji76w1/pji76w1//: unexpected Tag:/a  
at Position 368  wydd ffeil system Windows Mapi (Messaging Application Programming Interface) sy'n achosi 
anawsterau mewn rhai fersiynau o'r ffeil. Yn anffodus, nid oes modd cyfyngu'r brobem u fersiwn benodol. Am ragor o wybodaeth ewch 
i/a  a href=http://www.microsoft.com;http://www.microsoft.com/a
Entry double for LANG=cy in file cy.sdf
sw  source\ui\utlui\poolfmt.src 0   string  
STR_POOLCOLL_HEADLINE_BASE  0   cy  Pennawd 
2002-02-02 02:02:02
sw  source\ui\utlui\poolfmt.src 0   string  STR_POOLCOLL_LABEL  
0   cy  Pennawd 
2002-02-02 02:02:02



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[libreoffice-l10n] Pootle: Install

2011-04-13 Thread Rhoslyn Prys


I'm getting this message:

Pootle: Install

Error: (1040, 'Too many connections') while attempting to access the 
Pootle database, will try to initialize database.


 when I go to

https://translations.documentfoundation.org/

Thanks

Rhoslyn Prys

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] LibreOffice 3.4 translation

2011-04-11 Thread Rhoslyn Prys


On 07/04/2011 19:08, Andras Timar wrote:

Hi,

As Sophie and Rimas wrote earlier, we can start to localize LibreOffice
3.4 in Pootle or by other means.

Please read this wiki page:
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Translation_for_3.4
I don't want to repeat what is already there. As we don't have too much
time, please start with the UI.

Pootle is bootstrapped with translations. For languages that had
LibreOffice 3.3.x - Merged UI/Help, we migrated that. For other
languages we imported what we found in the current LibreOffice source code.

All supported languages were imported except Serbian, Slovenian and
Romanian, because they indicated that they do not want to use our
Pootle. I would happily add them of course, if they changed their minds.

Also, Luxembourgish was added to Pootle but it has not been added to
LibreOffice source code yet. 12.6% is translated at the moment. AFAIK in
OOo the limit was 80%, maybe we can be more liberal. :) Keep up the good
work.

BUGS!
I found gsicheck bugs in many localizations.
See: http://ftp.fsf.hu/LibreOffice/3.4-alpha-l10nbugs/
.err files contain the lines with errors and the en-US conterparts
.log files contain the error message
Please locate and fix these bugs!
Affected locales: bg, bn, bs, cy, da, dgo, el, en-ZA, eo, ga, mk, ne,
nn, om, pt, sa-IN, sd, sv, tg, uz, vi

Also I found many occurences of @openoffice.org mailing lists or
openoffice.org web sites where the en-US source string contained
LibreOffice references. Please look for these, and correct them. Pootle
has checks for changed URLs and changed mail addresses.

Best regards,
Andras

I would like to work on the Welsh translation of LibreOffice 3.4 
(LibreOffice 3.4.x-UI) 
https://translations.documentfoundation.org/cy/libo34x_ui/ but I 
cannot edit and save nor upload po files. Could you check this out for 
me please?


Thanks
Rhoslyn Prys

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Welsh language UI not included in 3.3RC4

2011-01-26 Thread Rhoslyn Prys


On 24/01/2011 22:59, Andras Timar wrote:

2011.01.24. 22:38 keltezéssel, Rhoslyn Prys írta:

I've downloaded the Windows version of LibreOffice 3.3RC4
cy-Welsh/Cymraeg but Welsh does not appear to have been included. Can we
check this, please?

Options - Language Settings - Languages -User Interface.

It Includes English, Ukranian, Unknown, Uyghur, Uzbeck Latin, Venda,
Vietnamese and Xhosa.

The Locale setting is Default - Welsh

Default languages for documents - Western - Welsh.

I'm using Windows 7 with the Welsh language pack.

Thanks

Rhoslyn Prys


Hi Rhoslyn,

Not all languages are included into
LibO_3.3.0rc4_Win_x86_install_multi.exe. Welsh is in
LibO_3.3.0rc4_Win_x86_install_all_lang.exe.

Did you istall LibO_3.3.0rc4_Win_x86_install_all_lang.exe? Did you
select Welsh language pack at install?

I installed LibO_3.3.0rc4_Win_x86_install_all_lang.exe and found Welsh
translation in it.

Best regards,
Andras


Ok , I've downloaded the final 3.3 and read the installation 
instructions this time...


/If you choose a custom installation, you will see a dialog box that 
lets you choose what LibreOffice components to install. Open the 
dropdown boxes and make your choices./


/At this point, you can choose the language packs you want to be 
installed. English and the language of your operating system are 
selected by default. Also, all dictionaries are selected by default. You 
may want to select only those which you actually need. You can also 
deselect unwanted extensions. Make your selections, and press Next/.


Although I'm using Windows 7 with the Welsh language pack as noted 
above, the Welsh language pack was not ' selected by default' I had to 
manually set the language pack through the Custom Installation setting. 
It then worked.


There are some issues with the translation not being complete. The 
translation for 3.3 in OOo Pootle was complete but the version in 
Pavel's repository was not. OOo 3.3 will not appear in Welsh but I'm 
hoping that it will be picked up for 3.4.


Thanks

Rhos

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[libreoffice-l10n] Welsh language UI not included in 3.3RC4

2011-01-24 Thread Rhoslyn Prys

I've downloaded the Windows version of LibreOffice 3.3RC4 
cy-Welsh/Cymraeg but Welsh does not appear to have been included. Can we 
check this, please?


Options - Language Settings - Languages -User Interface.

It Includes English, Ukranian, Unknown, Uyghur, Uzbeck Latin, Venda, 
Vietnamese and Xhosa.


The Locale setting is Default - Welsh

Default languages for documents - Western - Welsh.

I'm using Windows 7 with the Welsh language pack.

Thanks

Rhoslyn Prys

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Re: Commit localized strings for LibO-3.3-rc2 release

2010-12-13 Thread Rhoslyn Prys


On 13/12/2010 18:48, Andras Timar wrote:

2010/12/13 Petr Mladekpmla...@suse.cz:

We are still working in some fixes, so we are going to tag tomorrow.


Guys,

I'll make a second round of pushes tomorrow morning. I see on page
http://translations.documentfoundation.org/projects/libo33/ that br,
da, es, and ja translations have been updated, keep on the good work,
you may be ready for RC2.

Thanks,
Andras

I've uploaded the completed Welsh translation to Pootle. Please include 
this update. Thanks.


Rhos

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Welsh Translation of LibreOffice

2010-12-12 Thread Rhoslyn Prys


On 12/12/2010 18:49, Andras Timar wrote:

2010/12/12 Rhoslyn Prysrp...@yahoo.com:

I've updated the Welsh translation of OOo on the OOo Pootle Server. It's now
complete.

The Welsh translation for LibreOffice is also complete on TDF Pootle.
Anything else I should do? Thanks

Rhoslyn Prys


Hi Rhoslyn,

You have two files in Pootle and they are not identical. Which one
should I take?
The difference is:
  msgid Key bindings
-msgstr Rhwymiad allwedd
+msgstr Rhwymiad allweddi
Please let me know or remove either file.

Thanks,
Andras

Thanks Andras, I've corrected the error in Pootle, it should have been 
Rhwymiad allwedd in both versions.


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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Welsh Translation of LibreOffice

2010-12-12 Thread Rhoslyn Prys


On 12/12/2010 20:38, Rimas Kudelis wrote:

Hi Rhoslyn,

2010.12.12 22:09, Rhoslyn Prys rašė:

On 12/12/2010 18:49, Andras Timar wrote:

2010/12/12 Rhoslyn Prysrp...@yahoo.com:
I've updated the Welsh translation of OOo on the OOo Pootle Server. 
It's now

complete.

The Welsh translation for LibreOffice is also complete on TDF Pootle.
Anything else I should do? Thanks


Sorry to inform you, but it turns out that you still have 99 missing 
strings.


If you were translating offline, please check the amount of strings in 
your copy of the file. If it's 359 and not 458, then it's wrong. If 
it's 458, try re-uploading the file, but please use the correct name 
(-cy, and not _cy; I don't know why you ended up having two identical 
files, unless you clicked on Update from templates).


Thanks, and sorry once again...

Rimas


It's 359. I've downloaded the file again and it's 458. I'll get on with 
the the translation but it will not be ready tonight. Sorry about that.


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[libreoffice-l10n] Welsh language translation

2010-12-07 Thread Rhoslyn Prys

Hi I'm Rhoslyn Prys, leader of the Welsh translation of OOo and I would 
like permissions for using Pootle for the lo-build .po file, please.


Thanks

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