Re: [lace] Lace corners -> circular lace

2007-01-11 Thread J. Falkink
Dear Spiders I remember a note by L.A. Viddeleer in her book about "lassen" (joining lace) that circular laces should stay on the pillow/pricking until the joining took actually place. If the lace had been lying around for a while, it would not lie flat anymore and would be impossible to join and

Re: [lace] Lace corners

2007-01-11 Thread Alice Howell
--- Clay Blackwell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Not long ago, I worked a handkerchief, and was > aware from the > beginning that the angle at the corner was *less* > than 90 degrees. .. and the lace was Binche. > > What I found, when the joining and the mounting were > done, was that the > acute

Re: [lace] Rauma lace corners

2007-01-11 Thread bevw
On 1/11/07, Alice Howell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > How can you have a finished square corner with 81 degrees? My mistake - it wasn't sewn to fabric. It was placed flat and the angle measured - so ignore the bit about sewing to fabric. Yes, the wider the lace, the more correction will be requi

Re: [lace] Rauma lace corners

2007-01-11 Thread Alice Howell
--- bevw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In Leena's article, she shows two corners prickings. > One is a 90 degree > corner. When it was made up and attached to a piece > of fabric, the flat > angle at the inside corner is 81 degrees. > The other is a 103 degree corner. When it was made > up and attac

Re: [lace] OIDFA Point Ground Book

2007-01-11 Thread Margot Walker
On Thursday, January 11, 2007, at 06:41 PM, bevw wrote: Margot do you know of the status of the study group itself? I'm pretty sure that they're inactive now. I know some more details on other point ground laces arrived after the book was published, but I think that they've decided to rest

Re: [lace] Rauma lace corners

2007-01-11 Thread Tamara P Duvall
On Jan 11, 2007, at 18:53, Clay Blackwell wrote: Now this new thread (the "true" angle at corners...) is fascinating to me. Me too, since I've never heard of either method (widening or narrowing the angle) of coping with a problem I hadn't even noticed :) Not long ago, I worked a handkerchi

Re: [lace] Rauma lace corners

2007-01-11 Thread bevw
> > Based on that experience, it would seem to me that a > corner worked with an obtuse angle would force the outside (headside) > edge to cup when joined and mounted. > > UNLESS (if I'm reading correctly), the particular difficulties presented > by Bucks Point corners require the obtuse angle to o

[lace] Old Tønder and Old Bucks point

2007-01-11 Thread Leonard Bazar
Joyce suggested as differences between Bucks and Tønder: "in Bucks a picot is made in the "valley" at the headside, but in Tønder, at the valley pin the workers are brought through the headside passives, twisted twice around the pin, and then taken back through the headside passives and into t

Re: [lace] Rauma lace corners

2007-01-11 Thread Clay Blackwell
Now this new thread (the "true" angle at corners...) is fascinating to me. Not long ago, I worked a handkerchief, and was aware from the beginning that the angle at the corner was *less* than 90 degrees. This made me curious, but I continued to work the pattern. The lace was, BTW, about 1.5"

Re: [lace] Rauma lace corners

2007-01-11 Thread bevw
Synchronicity! With my back issues of OIDFA bulletins out - I chanced on the article in Bulletin 1 - 2003 by Leena Haukanheimo, "corners in point ground lace" - but specifically Rauma. she wonders if other (point ground) laces used a wider angle at the corner, too. It all started with a person who

Re: [lace] Re: Question re Old Toender Pricking

2007-01-11 Thread Barbara Joyce
I thought of another difference between Bucks and Tønder. In Bucks as you work from the lace into the headside, after you cross the gimp, you twist the workers (twice?) before working through the headside passives. Likewise, after you've made the picot, you work back through the passives and twist

[lace] Rauma lace corners

2007-01-11 Thread Alice Howell
There's two or three books of Rauma lace available -- straight edgings with corners added for hankies. Mine are hiding in the bookshelf right now and I couldn't find them so I'm writing from memory. Rauma is the only lace that figured out that the headside of the lace stretches more than the fo

Re: [lace] OIDFA Point Ground Book

2007-01-11 Thread bevw
It is found via the products link, sub-branch publications, if you are starting from www.oidfa.com :) Margot do you know of the status of the study group itself? I've loaned my copy of the recent bulletin with reports from Congress. Had thought to see if there was a report from the PG study group.

[lace] Re: Antique Toender Pattern

2007-01-11 Thread Tamara P Duvall
On Jan 11, 2007, at 7:05, Leonard Bazar wrote: Looking at the samples on Joyce's website, I was fascinated by the corner of the old sample, where an area of point ground went round the corner, without the usual glitches, which do show a little on the modern pieces. How was this achieved??? O

Re: [lace] OIDFA Point Ground Book

2007-01-11 Thread Barbara Joyce
Margot, thanks for posting that. I looked at the OIDFA site, and couldn't find it (at least the first time I tried!). I already own a copy (Thanks, Darlene), but for any of you who have been interested in this discussion and enjoy point ground laces, I encourage you to consider purchasing this publ

[lace] OIDFA Point Ground Book

2007-01-11 Thread Margot Walker
It's still available for 20 Euros. See: http://www.oidfa.com/index%20en.htm On Thursday, January 11, 2007, at 05:42 PM, Barbara Joyce wrote: Regarding another book(let) we've been discussing recently, I believe the OIDFA comparison of point ground laces is out of print, and I don't even se

Re: [lace] Question re Old Toender Pricking - Books

2007-01-11 Thread Barbara Joyce
Jeri said: > From Jeri: The Nissen Book #3 still shows as out-of-print at Van Sciver > (USA), but ask your dealer, and maybe you can get it. My copy from Van Sciver > in > 2005 was $45. Van Sciver does have the English translation by Karen Hansen > Thompson for $15. It is text only, on 8 1/2"

Re: [lace] Question re Old Toender Pricking - Books

2007-01-11 Thread Jeriames
In a message dated 1/11/07 12:09:44 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > There are some books available that can help you get into this kind of lace > (which is my favorite--can you tell?). Knipling 3 is wonderful, and > expensive (around $50), was out of print for a while, but is

[lace] Tim Parker

2007-01-11 Thread Jenny De Angelis
Tim Parkers website shows that he will be on holiday until 1st. February. It says that all orders will be dealt with promptly once they begin work again. http://www.cyberlink.co.uk/timparker/ Regards Jenny DeAngelis Spain. <> - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line

Re: [lace] point ground laces resource was antique Toender pattern

2007-01-11 Thread Diane Williams
I asked for, and received, this book for Christmas a couple of years ago because I love all point ground laces. My family was amazed that I was so happy with it because they were very disappointed when they looked at it! It's definitely a study book, not a coffee table book! Diane Willia

[lace] point ground laces resource was antique Toender pattern

2007-01-11 Thread bevw
Hi all - There is a wonderful study book on the point ground laces published by OIDFA "Point Ground Lace - A Comparative Study" - ISBN 0 95406960 9 The book is in chart form listing *23 distinct point ground laces* in 13 regional groupings, including Tønder pre- and post-1900, and Vanha Rauma, pre

Re: [lace] Re: Question re Old Toender Pricking

2007-01-11 Thread Barbara Joyce
Bucks and Tønder both belong to the category of point ground laces. There are many similarities. Tønder is worked with a finer thread, anything from Egyptian Cotton 120/2 to 170/2 depending on the pricking. The gimp is relatively heavy, such as linen 35/2 or 35/3. Gunvor encouraged use of linen thr

Fw: [lace] Rauma lace

2007-01-11 Thread Sue
I was pleased to see this because it was my question too. Sue T, Dorset UK >Rauma lace" now that is a new one for me can you give us a little bit more info on this (see it works both ways doesn't it) Happy lacing Sue M Harvey Rauma lace is combination of Torchon and Cluny/Beds. It's made of l

RE: [lace] Tim Parker wanted

2007-01-11 Thread Elizabeth Pass
Tim and Ann usually have an extended holiday at this time of year, so will be out of contact for a while. Liz Pass (in Poole, Dorset) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ewa Eskilsson Sent: 11 January 2007 16:04 To: Arachne Subject: [lace] Tim

[lace] Tim Parker wanted

2007-01-11 Thread Ewa Eskilsson
Have anybody any info about Tim and Ann Parker? I have sent 3 mails within the last month, but have had no replay what so ever! Does anybody know what is going on? Greetings to you all from Ewa Eskilsson in a very stormy and rainy Sweden. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing

[lace] Rauma lace

2007-01-11 Thread Maria B
Rauma lace" now that is a new one for me can you give us a little bit more info on this (see it works both ways doesn't it) Happy lacing Sue M Harvey Rauma lace is combination of Torchon and Cluny/Beds. It's made of linen thread. Only handkerchief laces are made of cotton thread. Handkerchief la

RE: [lace] re: academic study on bobbin lace

2007-01-11 Thread Sue
"Rauma lace" now that is a new one for me can you give us a little bit more info on this (see it works both ways doesn’t it) Happy lacing Sue M Harvey Norfolk UK -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Maria B Sent: 11 January 2007 14:29 To: lace@a

Re: [lace] Re: academic study on bobbin lace

2007-01-11 Thread Diane Williams
I would also put in my suggestion for this book. I stumbled upon it in a consignment shop and really love to pore over the color plates. A group of us also participate in living history and it gives good information about the lace that was in use during specific periods of time. Diane Wi

[lace] re: academic study on bobbin lace

2007-01-11 Thread Maria B
Thanks for the replies I've got, both on the list and privately. There has been so many replies that I've given up the idea to thank you all individually (and, I must say, I'm not used to this g-mail account which doesn't mark the messages that have already been replied) . Anyway, you'll hear fro

[lace] Re: Antique Toender Pattern

2007-01-11 Thread Leonard Bazar
I too have been enjoying and learning from this thread. Yet another source for fillings using this pricking is "Decorative Fillings for Bucks Point Lace" by Geraldine Stott. I bought my copy in 1996, and as it has no ISBN, it may have been privately printed and now difficult to acquire. Anywa

[lace] angel tree

2007-01-11 Thread Sue
The tree and so many different styles of angels is just amazing to see. I have 3 different lace angels on my 18inch tree each year, along with my lace bells. I really enjoyed looking through all the pictures. Thank you for sending in. Sue T, Dorset UK Love your angel tree Jeri, you have s

Fw: [lace] Re: Question re Old Toender Pricking

2007-01-11 Thread Sue
Thank you for this brilliant thread of lace and pictures. This type of lace looks as if it is similar to Bucks Point. Can you tell me if it is finer thread, or just has new stitches not normally used in Bucks Point. I think it looks stunning. I could never get the hang of the free Bucks patte