RE: [lace] "Antique Indian Plains Lace bobbins"

[Noelene Lafferty]

Here's a Tiny URL to Brian's link, which gets split into two lines by
Arachne and won't work that way:
http://tinyurl.com/h8tj3fc

There was an article in Piecework fairly recently about lacemaking being
taught to Native Americans in the past, but I can't lay my hands on my copy
at the moment.

Noelene at The Angle
noel...@lafferty.com.au


I have challenged the seller, but perhaps some of our American members can
tell me if the Colonial missionaries taught lace to the Plains Indians?

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Re: [lace] Re: Arachne Handbook etc

[Joseph Young]

Sorry Jane, I'm not too sure what photo you are referring to. I wasn't aware
that i was sending a Hyperlink.

I always strip my posts entirely before sending to Arachne, I have checked all
settings and my signature only contains text and no URL's.

I can get into flickr for Arachne without being logged in on Google Chrome,
but Microsoft Edge doesn't allow me to get in and i get sent into a redirect
loop.


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[lace] "Antique Indian Plains Lace bobbins"

[brido11]

I found a description on eBay of what to me are Cleary two English lace
bobbins.  There is a very large price attached to the article.

I have challenged the seller, but perhaps some of our American members can
tell me if the Colonial missionaries taught lace to the Plains Indians?

I might have to eat my words?  Can you help please?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Antique-Plains-Indian-Bobbin-Lace-Sewing-Tools-/252
578712933?hash=item3acedd4d65:g:nX4AAOSwNRdX--L5

Brian

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RE: [lace] Arachne Handbook etc

[Jenny Brandis]

Found the link to the handbook at
http://www.arachne.com/lace/list_instructions.html but it keeps timing out.

Hugs
Jenny B

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Re: [lace] Christmas Lace Star finished

[Sue Babbs]

Yes, I wanted to make the wise men have richer looking clothes -  hence the 
purple, and gold in them. The Virgin Mary is often depicted with blue and 
rose garments - sometimes white, but I was trying also to get a balanced 
effect in the piece.


I also used some slubby silk threads in the meadows and these were brighter 
greens than the thread used in the original, so I had to change the other 
greens.  I used some fluffy threads for the sheep (which didn't work as well 
as I'd hoped - probably too many pairs in them, but the sheep were worked 
early on when I was still getting a feel for the number of pairs to use to 
fill each space)



Sue

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Re: [lace] Christmas Lace Star finished

[Helene Ulrich]

You Christmas comet looks great.  I think the colors are more in line
with what was worn back then, since rich colors were probably only
worn by those with a lot of money.

Helene
South Carolina

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[lace] Christmas Lace Star finished

[Sue Babbs]

A while back I saw a lace comet with a Christmas scene in it on Facebook, and
knew I wanted to make it.  I finally started it in September and didn’t
manage to get it finished before western Christmas (12/25) but have finished
it before Orthodox Christmas !  I still have to mount it in its frame, but
I’ve posted some photos of it on the pillow on Flickr.

The pattern is by Renate Richter, and was apparently published in the German
ANNA magazine No. 11/2008, and is now available from
http://www.kloeppelstube-zwoenitz.de/schweif-mit-christigeburt.html

I varied the colours from the original as I had the whole range of Moravia
linen in the house already, and added in some Moravia gold thread too!

Sue

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Re: [lace] Re: Arachne Handbook etc

[Tregellas Family]

Oh my  It is some months since I've had a chance to check out our 
Flicker pages  -  what a lot of exquisite lace I'm finding, such 
talented lacemakers.  BTW I had no problem accessing the page by 
clicking on the 'flicker' information at the end of this message.


Cheers,
Shirley T.  -  Adelaide, Australia where we're forecast to reach 39C on 
Friday.  Hooray, summer has arrived at last after all the rain and windy 
weather these last few months.

Happy New Year to all and hope you can find time for lots of lacemaking.



On 03-Jan-17 6:01 AM, Ilske Thomsen wrote:

Hello Sue,
I am in Germany and can open the our flickr account without any problems.


Ilske

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Re: [lace] Re: Arachne Handbook etc

[Amanda Babcock Furrow]

I checked one of Joseph's posts and it's not sending any attachment.  
The link at the end of the post of his that I checked was sent as a bare 
link.  Is it possible that your mailreader is previewing the link for 
you?

Amanda in Philly, PA, US

On Mon, Jan 02, 2017 at 11:06:42PM +, Jane Partridge wrote:
> Just to clarify, I'm thinking it's the link that's causing it in the same way 
> that if you include a hyperlink in a post on Facebook it brings up a preview 
> page of the website. I think it is only with Joseph's posts, but I'm 
> intrigued as to how it gets through the normal stripping of attachments by 
> the server? It also only seems to be when I'm using my laptop, not my phone. 
> Or is it an Outlook thing?

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[lace] Re: Arachne Handbook etc

[Jane Partridge]

Just to clarify, I'm thinking it's the link that's causing it in the same way 
that if you include a hyperlink in a post on Facebook it brings up a preview 
page of the website. I think it is only with Joseph's posts, but I'm intrigued 
as to how it gets through the normal stripping of attachments by the server? It 
also only seems to be when I'm using my laptop, not my phone. Or is it an 
Outlook thing?

Joseph, do you recognise the description of the photo?

I'm not clicking the link, the photo just there, at the bottom of the post 
under the link, both on reflected and digest versions.

Jane Partridge


The 'problem' I have is that the hyperlink to the flickr page brings up an
attached photograph of a young man at a table with several pots of yoghurt on
it - presumably advertising of some sort - and this happens every time the
link is repeated, especially when posts are not trimmed (and I've made that
mistake a couple of times recently, too!!).




Jane Partridge 

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Re: [lace] Arachne Flickr page

[Angel]

Whoops! I just replied to a post and forgot to do just that and I know better! 
I apologise profusely!

Cearbhael

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 2, 2017, at 9:20 AM, Sue Babbs  wrote:
> 
> Also it is important to trim the emails as some people receive the messages in
> digest form and untrimmed messages take up a lot of that space.
> 
> Sue
> 
> suebabbs...@gmail.com
> 
> 

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Re: [lace] Arachne Flickr page

[Angel]

I always considered Arachne as the "Definitive" lace group. I have been with 
this group since the beginning. I am not as active as I used to be but to me, 
All the really great lace makers are here, from all around the world! Who 
better to seek advise from when having a problem! I have gained so much 
information since I joined it is amazing!

Cearbhael

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 1, 2017, at 4:38 PM, AGlez  wrote:
> 
> I think the reason of being quite is that we have had many feasts in this
> time, with lots of family reunions, etc. We will soon start to write again!
> Be patient!
> 
> As for Facebook lace groups... I know there are many lacemakers who join
> them, but I think Arachne is the really interesting one, where interesting
> things about lace are talked about. I have not seen any Facebook group
> which really leads a conversation about a subject, as Arachne does. It is
> more a showcase of the work one does, and a long list of admirations and
> congratulations following.
> 
> I think if you are really interested in lace, THIS is the group!
> 
> Best wishes and Happy new year!!
> 
> Antje, from Spain (freezing cold now!!)
> 
> www.vueltaycruz.es
> 
> 2017-01-01 23:20 GMT+01:00 Lorelei Halley :
> 
>> I think that one reason for the quietness on Arachne is that many of the
>> new lacers are using certain facebook groups. Facebook has a huge
>> membership, so those groups quickly accumulate lots of members. And of
>> course, there are groups for every language. Here are some of the ones I
>> know about.
>> https://www.facebook.com/groups/bobbinlacemakers/
>> https://www.facebook.com/groups/30338026304/
>> I think that these groups attract new lacemakers, so they don't feel the
>> need for a group like Arachne. However, I also think Arachne is still very
>> useful, because of all the knowledgable people.
>> Lorelei Halley
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: owner-l...@arachne.com [mailto:owner-l...@arachne.com] On Behalf Of
>> Catherine Barley
>> Sent: Sunday, January 1, 2017 3:27 AM
>> To: Clay Blackwell ; jeria...@aol.com
>> Cc: suebabbs...@gmail.com; lace@arachne.com
>> Subject: Re: [lace] Arachne Flickr page
>> 
>> For some strange reason it doesn't appear to be as active as it used to,
>> but clearly many of us are still lurking, as there is always an immediate
>> response to any queries posted by needy lace makers.
>> 
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> 
> 
> -- 
> 
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RE: [lace] Re: Arachne Handbook etc

[J-D Hammett]

Hi Fellow Arachnids,

I am in the UK and have no problem getting into the Arachne Flikr account.

Happy lace making,

Joepie



From: Ilske Thomsen
Sent: 02 January 2017 19:39
To: lace list
Subject: Re: [lace] Re: Arachne Handbook etc

Hello Sue,
I am in Germany and can open the our flickr account without any problems.


Ilske



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[lace] RE: Loretta Holtzberger

[Helen Bell]

Have yet to see the article, but I've seen some of her embroidery.  It's
superb.

... which explains why her NL is prize winning (like her embroidery).

She's one talented lady.

Helen, in Duvall, WA

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Re: [lace] Re: Arachne Handbook etc

[Ilske Thomsen]

Hello Sue,
I am in Germany and can open the our flickr account without any problems.


Ilske

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Re: [lace] Re: Arachne Handbook etc

[Sue Babbs]

Whether I'm logged into yahoo as Arachne or my own Yahoo account myself, the 
hyperlink takes me directly to the lace photos - but I'm in America, like 
Clay.  Can't imagine what else but country can be affecting it - but I'm not 
a computer expert


Sue


attached photograph of a young man at a table with several pots of yoghurt 
on

it - presumably advertising of some sort>

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[lace] Re: Arachne Handbook etc

[Jane Partridge]

Joseph (and anyone else interested)


If you want to check what was written in the handbook (it's a bit dated now,
even though I think I updated some of the info re long gone websites when I
posted it) you should be able to find it in the Archives (search for posts
with my name and handbook). There were two parts to it originally. I think
I've still got the files saved, but having changed computer to laptop and also
changed ISP over the years, might not be able to lay my mouse on it quickly.


It isn't all rules, some of it is the history of things like why we have two
lists when we started with one, what exchanges were going on then (we've done
bookmarks, Christmas ornaments, Christmas cards) and so on, plus a bit of
netiquette for those who don't know. Timely reminders like remember some
lacemakers may have young children reading over their shoulders (mine have
grown up, left home and had their own children in the time I've been on the
list - frightening, isn't it?) so mind your language and censor the jokes
(it's what chat is for!).


Remember not all countries have their celebrations at the same time, so some
will be busy with family life when others have nothing other than the computer
to amuse them - it's also difficult when your children have flown the nest,
especially if you live on your own, to remember when school/college terms
start and finish, and how much time they took up! Those times can be
particularly stressful, and it is often when a joke can be taken the wrong way
- fortunately flaming these days is rare, but there have been times in the run
up to Thanksgiving/Christmas when, like all 'families', we've squabbled
amongst ourselves. On top of that, we've had some laughs over the years (very
politically incorrect these days) because of the difference in UK/Aussie
humour and US humour - and I well remember the discussions over the US
question of what on earth we (UK/Australia) need a lace cake band for - we
said we used royal icing on our Christmas cakes and it was to hide a multitude
of flaws in our icing skills where the sides of the cake were concerned - they
asked 'royal icing, what's that?' - and as for Marmite. I'm sure the
other long-in-the-tooth Arachnes will remember it well! But through it all, in
the days of learning to communicate internationally, we learnt a lot not only
about lace, but how others see things, and gradually worked out how not to
upset people. We've seen new 'faces' join, we've seen others leave the list
or, sadly, leave this world altogether. Their words of wisdom live on in the
Archives - that is somewhere else that Arachne has an edge over Facebook -
finding something that was posted two days ago is easy on Arachne, on Facebook
it can take months!


The main advice is never to worry that you have asked a silly question, or
that it has been asked on several occasions before. You *may* get someone
telling you to go and look it up, but that is off-putting to a beginner, and
it may mean another week of a very quiet list because everyone is racking
their brains for something brand new to say!!!


I'm sure we have discussed pincushions before, but I have never heard of the
wire wool and soap idea. I have been told that using polyester (of the toy
stuffing variety) can blunt/dull the pins, and learnt enough in science at
school, and in practice since, to know that brass tarnishes (as does silver)
when exposed to moisture and air, and that one of the components of brass -
copper - will gain a coating of verdigris, especially when it is in contact
with the acid in pricking card, and this will leave a turquoise/blue stain on
your lace if you leave the pins in for too many years which reminds me,
maybe 2017 is time to get on with the piece of Honiton I started under the
watchful eye of the late Christine Hawken and is still on my pillow!


(The solution to tarnished brass pins is also to be found in the Archives...
don't chuck them away, use a bowl of water with a bit of vinegar and a drop or
two of washing up liquid - soak them for a while and they will come up like
new again.)


The 'problem' I have is that the hyperlink to the flickr page brings up an
attached photograph of a young man at a table with several pots of yoghurt on
it - presumably advertising of some sort - and this happens every time the
link is repeated, especially when posts are not trimmed (and I've made that
mistake a couple of times recently, too!!).


Jane Partridge
Roughly in the middle of England


From: owner-l...@arachne.com  on behalf of Joseph
Young 
Sent: 02 January 2017 15:12

Subject: Re: [lace] Arachne Flickr page

I tried to download the "handbook" from Majordomo server, but i got an error
message telling me that there was no such file.

I didn't want to breach any of your rules when posting, so i have been mainly
posting replies.

--
Regards, Joseph

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[lace] Re: Arachne FLICKER

[Sue Babbs]

Anyone can look at the photos on Flickr – the link is posted at the end of
every Arachne messages:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/

You only need the login info if you want to upload or edit your photos in it

Sue

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Re: [lace] Arachne Flickr page

[Joy Beeson]

On 1/2/17 11:20 AM, Sue Babbs wrote:


I am surprised that you have to change to plain text only
as I can post HTML messages without  a problem.


It could be that his HTML converter is changing his commands 
to something that Majordomo doesn't recognize.


When I viewed the source of your message, the only editing 
your mailer had done was to replace two of your punctuation 
marks with groups of non-ASCII characters ("’" and "–"), 
but machine-generated HTML code often looks like dog vomit.


Oops!  I also didn't find any HTML codes.  That particular 
message is in plain text.


--
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Re: [lace] Arachne Flickr page

[Sue Babbs]

Welcome, Joseph.  I don’t think we have many rules – being polite and
courteous is probably the main one (and you are that!) and there are some
restrictions on advertising sales of items if one owns a lacemaking business.
Also it is important to trim the emails as some people receive the messages in
digest form and untrimmed messages take up a lot of that space.

I am surprised that you have to change to plain text only as I can post HTML
messages without  a problem.


Sue

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Re: [lace] Arachne Flickr page

[Joseph Young]

I struggled to Join Arachne, that may be an off putter. Once i got In I have 
found it wonderful.

I tried to download the "handbook" from Majordomo server, but i got an error 
message telling me that there was no such file.

I didn't want to breach any of your rules when posting, so i have been mainly 
posting replies.


Outlook and Hotmail's servers wouldn't let me join unless I set my mail server 
to plain text only (even though i didn't use any fancy formatting.)

I had to change the email type to "plain text only" to get the server to accept 
my commands, and to also accept any new/reply emails to the server. I have to 
re-set it to this format before every email I send to Arachne.

--
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Re: [lace] Pincushion

[Joseph Young]

Before I started lace making, all of my pin cushions were stuffed with 
fine steel wool and a tiny cube of soap in the very centre to keep the 
pins lubricated. This is how my granny always did them, but now that I 
am using nickel plated stainless pins, i cant use that for fear of 
damaging the pins.

In home Ec we were taught to use walnut hulls that you get from the 
fodder store.

Now i stuff my cushions half unwashed wool and half polyfill from the 
craft store. If your cushion is too soft once its stuffed, you can up 
the ratio of wool in the stuffing and felt it in the washer and dryer so 
that it can "grab" the pins a bit better.



-- 
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[lace] Pincushion

[Lyn Bailey]

Back in the day when I was first learning lace and wearing such things, my
first two pincushions, about 2” (5cm) in diameter each were stuffed with a
whole pair of pantyhose each.  Worked very well.  I still have them.

Lyn in Lancaster, Pennsylvania, USA, where it is a dreary, rainy, but
fortunately not freezing day.  Good day for tea and lacemaking.

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[lace] pincushions

[Alex Stillwell]

Hi Arachnids

What a fascinating discussion about pincushions. However a comment. I am
allergic to lanolin, and I am not the only one. If you use sheep's’ wool as
the filling, unless ALL the lanolin has been removed from the wool please put
a label on the pincushion that it contains sheep’s wool. You might be safer
using a polyester filling.

All best wishes for your success

Alex

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[lace] Self-publishing

[Alex Stillwell]

Hi Patricia

I’ll send you a personal email with some comments.

Blow the dust

Alex

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