Re: [lace] Fan Sticks

2004-10-13 Thread Peter Thomsen
Dear Margaret,
could you find in UK the cleanig-material for porcelain-doll? This is 
also possible to use for bone-sticks. Otherwise if you come to Germany 
I can give you the adress from the specialist for ivory, 
mother-in-pearl and all such materials. He lives ear Bremen. And I 
myself sent him my fans allways by post.
Hope this helps.
Greetings from frosty  but still sunny Hamburg in Germany

Ilske
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[lace] IOLI Bulletin

2004-10-13 Thread Margot Walker
On Wednesday, October 13, 2004, at 03:57  AM, Elizabeth Ligeti wrote:
And Goodie Good!!! - My Bulletin from IOLI just arrived!
I'm glad the Bulletins are being received in Australia.  But can anyone 
explain, given the distances involved,  why the Australians get them 
before they arrive in Canada?  It happens with every issue.

Margot Walker in Halifax on the east coast of Canada, still waiting for 
my IOLI Bulletin.

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[lace] IOLI Bulletin

2004-10-13 Thread Jean Nathan
Mine arrived yesterday, but I haven't had time to look at it yet, and as
Canada still seems to be waiting for theirs (and maybe a few other
countries), we'll have to wait for the rest-of-the-world discussion of its
contents.

Jean, Poole, Dorset, UK

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[lace] La Encajera #23

2004-10-13 Thread Miriam
I received my issue yesterday.
Tamara well done again.
We had some talk about the price of the magazine and have done some 
calculations.  The stamp on the envelope was 2.55 Euro, the magazine 5 
euro. Now this gives me 7.55 multiply by 6 issues is 45.30. Now lets add 
10%for the handling and the envelope. But how does the publisher reach  90 
euro for the subscription to my part of the world ?

I'm going to write them an e-mail today. Will let you know if I get an answer.
Miriam
Arad, Israel
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[lace] ebay's new listing categories

2004-10-13 Thread Wotter03
Ebay (UK) has now altered their listings for craft items and has included a 
lacemaking category 
http://home.listings.ebay.co.uk/Lacemaking_W0QQfromZR12QQsacategoryZ57201QQsocmdZListingItemList
This page lists all the lace bobbins etc but also some of the tat that hardly 
qualifies as 'lacemaking'  
Regards
Rikki

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Re: [lace] IOLI Bulletin

2004-10-13 Thread Lorri Ferguson
Margot,

Are you sure your postal workers aren't on strike? (BG) It seems that every 
time I travel to B.C. the postal or some other workers are on strike.

Lorri


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Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2004 1:56 AM
Subject: [lace] IOLI Bulletin


 On Wednesday, October 13, 2004, at 03:57  AM, Elizabeth Ligeti wrote:

  And Goodie Good!!! - My Bulletin from IOLI just arrived!

 I'm glad the Bulletins are being received in Australia.  But can anyone
 explain, given the distances involved,  why the Australians get them
 before they arrive in Canada?  It happens with every issue.

 Margot Walker in Halifax on the east coast of Canada, still waiting for
 my IOLI Bulletin.

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Re: [lace] ebay's new listing categories - Tatting

2004-10-13 Thread Jeriames
In a message dated 10/13/04 9:27:50 AM Eastern Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


 Ebay (UK) has now altered their listings for craft items and has included a 
 
 lacemaking category 
 http://home.listings.ebay.co.uk/Lacemaking_W0QQfromZR12QQsacategoryZ57201QQso
 cmdZListingItemList
 This page lists all the lace bobbins etc but also some of the tat that 
 hardly 
 qualifies as 'lacemaking'  
 Regards
 

Lacemakers!

This is an opinion that varies from country-to-country.  This posting 
originated in Europe.  In the U.S., we include tatting as one of the lace categories. 
 It is featured in our lace club bulletins, and is taught at our lace 
convention classes.  It is given a place/category at lace exhibitions.  Tatters have 
been known to become enraged with a generalization about their craft that 
excludes it from the lace category.  

It is best to realize there are quite a few techniques that have been labeled 
as lace that in a narrow definition would not be.  Through long usage, and 
commercial promotion, this is something many of us have come to accept.

In Prague, I gave gifts of small tatted doilies that I commissioned a tatter 
to make for this purpose.  I wear these dainty pieces of lace (heavily 
starched) under brooches, and find it a nice way to wear lace because pins can avoid 
piercing the threads of tatting.  However, I do remember someone remarking 
that We do not consider tatting to be lace.  It did not bother me that she had 
this opinion, because the OIDFA organization recognizes only needle and bobbin 
laces.   Tatters do need to understand that this springs from strongly-held 
beliefs that are taught in needle and bobbin lace classes by some 
firmly-entrenched teachers.  

Tatters, you know what you are making, and many of us will continue to call 
it lace!

Jeri Ames in Maine USA
Lace  Embroidery Resource Center

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Re: [lace] ebay's new listing categories - Tatting

2004-10-13 Thread Amanda Richards
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In a message dated 10/13/04 9:27:50 AM Eastern Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


 Ebay (UK) has now altered their listings for craft items and has included a 
 
 lacemaking category 
 http://home.listings.ebay.co.uk/Lacemaking_W0QQfromZR12QQsacategoryZ57201QQso
 cmdZListingItemList
 This page lists all the lace bobbins etc but also some of the tat that 
 hardly 
 qualifies as 'lacemaking' 
 Regards
 



This is an opinion that varies from country-to-country. This posting 
originated in Europe. In the U.S., we include tatting as one of the lace categories. 

It is best to realize there are quite a few techniques that have been labeled 
as lace that in a narrow definition would not be. Through long usage, and 
commercial promotion, this is something many of us have come to accept.


Tatters, you know what you are making, and many of us will continue to call 
it lace!

Jeri Ames in Maine USA
Lace  Embroidery Resource Center



Dear Lacemakers,

Just to correct was is obviously a misunderstanding. What was said in the original 
posting was TAT not Tatting, tat is defined as 'anything which looks cheap, is of low 
quality or in bad condition:'.

Amanda

Nottingham, England

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[lace] IOLI Bulletin

2004-10-13 Thread Margot Walker
On Wednesday, October 13, 2004, at 11:07  AM, Lorri Ferguson wrote:
Margot,
Are you sure your postal workers aren't on strike? (BG) It seems that 
every
time I travel to B.C. the postal or some other workers are on strike.

Lorri's right.  Actually, right now, some federal civil servants are 
picketing an office building across the street.  But the post office 
isn't on strike and hasn't been for quite a few years.   And this 
problem with the IOLI Bulletin occurs with every issue.


Margot Walker in Halifax on the east coast of Canada
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Re: [lace] ebay's new listing categories - Tatting

2004-10-13 Thread Sue Babbs
Jeri and others
I suspect that Rikki was not intending to say anything at all about 
tatting  - and not saying that tatting does not qualify as lacemaking, but 
rather was using an English slang word . It was an unfortunate choice in the 
context of the lace list :)

Tat or tut (as I have heard some Essex folks use) means  stuff  - and 
is often used to describe stuff which is not of very high value or purpose. 
My Essex boss used it often to describe what i would have called junk. So 
please don't get too steamed up about this. I'm sure Rikki was intending to 
offend tatters
Sue
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

In a message dated 10/13/04 9:27:50 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Ebay (UK) has now altered their listings for craft items and has included 
a
lacemaking category

cmdZListingItemList
This page lists all the lace bobbins etc but also some of the tat that
hardly qualifies as 'lacemaking'
Regards
Lacemakers!
This is an opinion that varies from country-to-country.  This posting
originated in Europe.  In the U.S., we include tatting as one of the lace 
categories.
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Re: [lace] ebay's new listing categories - Tatting

2004-10-13 Thread Lacemania
In a message dated 10/13/2004 7:33:15 AM Pacific Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Tatters, you know what you are making, and many of us will continue to call 
it lace!

Jeri Ames in Maine USA
Lace  Embroidery Resource Center
Well said!  If I recall the publication by Mdme. Riego showed her method of 
tatting using a needle to create the tatting.  Many of her pieces could not 
have been done without one.

I am sure tatting has been pushed in the crochet and knitting category.  It 
is all right though.  Everyone has their opinion.


Dianna Stevens
Kent Washington, USA
www.domesticarts.com 

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Re: [lace] ebay's new listing categories - Tatting

2004-10-13 Thread Sue Babbs
Help! I lost a vital word in that last paragraph! It should, of course, have 
read:

. I'm sure Rikki was NOT intending to offend tatters
Sorry
Sue Babbs
(an Englishwoman living in America)
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Fw: [lace] ebay's new listing categories - Tat

2004-10-13 Thread Rhiannon Mann
  Ebay (UK) has now altered their listings for craft items and has
included a lacemaking category
http://home.listings.ebay.co.uk/Lacemaking_W0QQfromZR12QQsacategoryZ57201QQs
ocmdZListingItemList
 This page lists all the lace bobbins etc but also some of the tat that
hardly qualifies as 'lacemaking'
  Regards
 
 Jeri
I think what was trying to be espressed here is not anything to do with
tatting - in the UK we use the term tat to describe something unnecessary
ie; in the UK ebay section of lacemaking it included pre-made lengths of
lace NOT related to the lacemaking process in my opinion and should be
listed elsewhere. Please do not be offended!

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[lace] Oops - language misunderstandings

2004-10-13 Thread Wotter03
Sorry about the misunderstanding.  I am writing this from the UK where we use 
tat as a derogatory term for anything that isn't up to standard - rubbish 
(again I believe this is an English term equivalent to the term garbage).  If you 
can imagine someone holding up a piece of torn and scruffy material by two 
fingers on an outstretched arm and saying ''Who does this bit of tat belong 
to?'' then that is the sort meaning I intended to convey.
I have done a fair bit of tatting in my time.  I used to take my tatting to 
the hospital when I was having radiotherapy for breast cancer and I had to 
spend hours waiting around because the machine was *tatty* and kept breaking down.
Sorry for the confusion
Rikki

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[lace] ebay's new listing categories

2004-10-13 Thread Jean Nathan
Yet another example of two nations divided by a common language.

Oxford Dictionary definitions:

tat - 1 n. colloq. tatty things; rubbish, junk. (back formation from tatty).

tat - 2 v. do, or make by, tatting (origin unknown)

tatting n. 1. a kind of handmade knotted lace used for trimming etc. 2.
process of making this. (origin unknown)

tatty adj. colloq. 1. tattered, shabby 2. inferior 3. tawdry

The tat in some of the tat is a noun, and is therefore definition 1. We'd
only use tat in connecting with tatting as a verb.

Jean in Poole

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[lace] ebay's new listing categories

2004-10-13 Thread W N Lafferty
 This page lists all the lace bobbins etc but also some of the tat that hardly 
 qualifies as 'lacemaking'  
 Regards
 Rikki
It's obvious from the wording that Rikki mean the tat as per dictionary
definition of tat - 1 n. colloq. tatty things; rubbish, junk. (back formation from 
tatty)

However, to appease the tatters amongst us I'll quote again one of my favourite poems:

Lace is lace is lace.

For years I was a tatter
With shuttle, thread and hook.
I made quite lovely pieces
All copied from a book.
But then one day I came across
A bobbin lacy braid.
I tried the skill and caught the bug
And was thrilled with what I made.

So now I practice both the crafts,
And each one has its place.
The bobbin lace on pillow large
Sits in my special place
Where I can sit and lace away
In quiet and solitude
And concentrate on what I do
All in a peaceful mood.

But tatting's always with me
I'd never venture out
Without my bag of tatting
Of that I have no doubt.
It's there whenever waiting
Would mean some time to spare.
It's there to pick up any time
And add to lace that's there.

And yet from both these types of lace
The end result's the same
Some piece of work so beautiful
No matter what the name.

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Re: [lace] Finished knitted lace

2004-10-13 Thread Paul and Dona
Heather, your lace is beautiful!  Is it made of cotton?  Thanks for sharing 
with us.
Dona in Asan, Guam
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Subject: [lace] Finished knitted lace


I've finished up two knitted lace pieces. (Yes, I call it lace, in spite 
of purists. laugh)

http://www.uoguelph.ca/~hbogart/craft/knit/roe.html
and
http://www.uoguelph.ca/~hbogart/craft/knit/spiral.JPG
Sorry about the glare in the second photo, I should have put a cloth 
behind it.

The Rose of England took me nine months of on and off work, the spiral one 
took me just under two weeks.

Heather -- in cool and autumn-like SW Ontario, Canada
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RE: [lace] Lace contributors

2004-10-13 Thread Viv Dewar
Hi Ruth  Others
I also had a pattern published in Lace 114 (April 2004) and haven't
received my commemorative bobbin. I Have been planning to e-mail to see
if the bobbin was lost in the post (something that sadly is happening
regularly in the UK) or whether they hadn't been able to send them off
yet. 

So, Ruth, you are not alone. 

Has anyone received a bobbin for 114 yet?
Viv

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Of Ruth Budge
Sent: 11 October 2004 02:21
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Subject: [lace] Lace contributors

This question is for any Arachne member who, like me, had one of their
patterns
published in Issue 114 (the April issue) of Lace.

Have  you received your commemorative bobbin for the pattern yet?  Or is
it
just me who's missed out?  I did email The Hollies two or three months
ago, and
was told they'd been delayed because of staffing problems, but I still
haven't
received a bobbin, and am wondering if its gone astray on the long
voyage from
England to Australia!

Ruth Budge (Sydney, Australia)

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[lace] Alphabet Inspirations Thread!

2004-10-13 Thread Viv Dewar
Hi Everyone - Especially Sandi Woods  Brenda Paternoster
 
I've been perusing (drooling over) my copy of Sandi Woods' Alphabet
Inspirations for a week or two now and  want to say to all that
Inspirations is a perfect part of the title. I want to do all the
patterns in the book and further have been inspired to think 
*   Can I combine the I  G (my brother  - Ian Graham - is 50 in
January)
*   Can I mix P  C (Paul  Christine get married later this month)
*   And ... and .. and 
That's just the inspiration from the letters. When you do the perception
shift to see how parts of letters are used to create other designs - the
ideas just multiply (sadly time does not expand to fit the lace ideas
available!)
To get to my query!
The book suggests Pipers silks - 90/2  80/3 etc as the correct threads
for the prickings as printed. In Sandi's earlier book - Special Effects
in Bobbin Lace - the pricking guides say that if you use the Piper's
threads you should use the prickings at 100% (ie the same as the
Inspirations). This is also the guide for Madeira tanne 50  Gutermann
silk thread.
Brenda's book says that the Pipers silks recommended have 27-30
threads/cm but that Madeira 50 has 39. Madeira 30 has 29 threads/cm in
Brenda's book but Sandi's Special Effects suggest a pricking
enlargement to 105% if tanne 30 is used.
My question is 
Are the silk threads squashier when used in bobbin lace so that the
extra threads can squeeze themselves into the space or have I totally
misunderstood Brenda's work! I thought that where were 99 wraps per cm
in Yarn A and the pricking said use yarn B, if yarn B was within a
reasonable number of wraps of A it would work and that otherwise you
had an adjustment fact or to apply based on  99 X A/B (or 99 X A2/B2 ? -
please answer this one too, someone, again!). 
 
Viv

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Re: [lace] Lace contributors

2004-10-13 Thread Sue Babbs
No, I've not received a bobbin for the pattern in Lace 114 yet. I'd 
forgotten all about it. The bobbins the Lace Guild give for putting patterns 
in the magazine are wonderful, and they are the best I have for holding the 
hitch. I love them, and will look forward to seeing another in due course.

I'm forwarding these messages to the Hollies so that they can see we are 
wondering about the bobbins.
Sue
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Hi Ruth  Others
I also had a pattern published in Lace 114 (April 2004) and haven't
received my commemorative bobbin. I Have been planning to e-mail to see
if the bobbin was lost in the post (something that sadly is happening
regularly in the UK) or whether they hadn't been able to send them off
yet.
So, Ruth, you are not alone.
Has anyone received a bobbin for 114 yet?
Viv
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of Ruth Budge
Sent: 11 October 2004 02:21
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [lace] Lace contributors
This question is for any Arachne member who, like me, had one of their
patterns
published in Issue 114 (the April issue) of Lace.
Have  you received your commemorative bobbin for the pattern yet?  Or is
it
just me who's missed out?  I did email The Hollies two or three months
ago, and
was told they'd been delayed because of staffing problems, but I still
haven't
received a bobbin, and am wondering if its gone astray on the long
voyage from
England to Australia!
Ruth Budge (Sydney, Australia)
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[lace] Honiton Lace Pillow

2004-10-13 Thread Viv Dewar
Hi Everyone
I live in the UK and want to acquire a Honiton pillow. 
I'm a Honiton beginner, but since earlier this year I've been dabbling
with a straw domed pillow  now want to go for the real McCoy
Please could you advise on your experiences of using/buying the same. Is
straw the best?
None of the suppliers I've used regularly to buy from through mail order
seem to stock them so I'd like to have some recommendations. Please use
your discretion as to whether a reply would be of interest to the list
as a whole and should be posted there, or whether it relates to the
commercial transaction only  should therefore come to me off-list
I am coming to Somerset (Yeovil area) on 23 October and could detour to
collect. If any UK suppliers want to e-mail with details of prices etc -
please do, but to me not the list!
Many thanks
viv

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Re: [lace] ebay's new listing categories - Tatting

2004-10-13 Thread Ruth Budge
Jeri, and other Tatters on the list - please do not become offended by this
comment about tat.in England, tat (as distinct from tatting!) means
rubbish or scruffy articles.   What this posting was referring to is all the
other rubbishy bits and pieces which are advertised on e-bay as being
lacemaking equipment just because the sellers don't really know what the
articles are.

Nothing to do with denigrading tatting as a craft at all!!

Ruth Budge (Sydney, Australia)

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:In a message dated 10/13/04 9:27:50 AM Eastern Daylight
Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


 Ebay (UK) has now altered their listings for craft items and has included a 
 
 lacemaking category 
 http://home.listings.ebay.co.uk/Lacemaking_W0QQfromZR12QQsacategoryZ57201QQso
 cmdZListingItemList
 This page lists all the lace bobbins etc but also some of the tat that 
 hardly 
 qualifies as 'lacemaking' 
 Regards
 

Lacemakers!

This is an opinion that varies from country-to-country. This posting 
originated in Europe. In the U.S., we include tatting as one of the lace
categories. 
It is featured in our lace club bulletins, and is taught at our lace 
convention classes. It is given a place/category at lace exhibitions. Tatters
have 
been known to become enraged with a generalization about their craft that 
excludes it from the lace category. 

It is best to realize there are quite a few techniques that have been labeled 
as lace that in a narrow definition would not be. Through long usage, and 
commercial promotion, this is something many of us have come to accept.

In Prague, I gave gifts of small tatted doilies that I commissioned a tatter 
to make for this purpose. I wear these dainty pieces of lace (heavily 
starched) under brooches, and find it a nice way to wear lace because pins can
avoid 
piercing the threads of tatting. However, I do remember someone remarking 
that We do not consider tatting to be lace. It did not bother me that she had

this opinion, because the OIDFA organization recognizes only needle and bobbin 
laces. Tatters do need to understand that this springs from strongly-held 
beliefs that are taught in needle and bobbin lace classes by some 
firmly-entrenched teachers. 

Tatters, you know what you are making, and many of us will continue to call 
it lace!

Jeri Ames in Maine USA
Lace  Embroidery Resource Center

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[lace-chat] Sydney Weather

2004-10-13 Thread Ruth Budge
Just thought those of you heading into the depths of winter might be interested
- Sydney has just had its hottest October day, with the temperature climbing to
38.something celsius, or over 100F.   I certainly hope this isn't an indication
of what summer is going to be like.

Ruth Budge (Sydney, Australia)

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[lace-chat] Victorian weather

2004-10-13 Thread Elizabeth Ligeti
The hottest ever October day was recorded yesterday - in Mildura, in the far 
north west.  It reached 40 Celcius!

I am very glad I was not there yesterday!!  We are going there this weekend, 
but I think it will be a bit cooler!! - I hope so!!!
I hope to meet the lacemakers there, too, on Sunday.

And Goodie Good!!! - My Bulletin from IOLI just arrived!
from Liz in Melbourne, Oz,
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[lace-chat] :-) Children's Bill of Rights

2004-10-13 Thread Jean Nathan
I think there's something similar to this in most countries. As I don't have
children (horses were cheaper) I can only sympathise.

Children's Bill of Rights

   My teen-age son came home from school one day,
   with a smirk upon his face.
   He decided he was smart enough,
   to put me in my place.

Guess what I learned in Civics Two,
that's taught by Mr. Wright?
It's all about the laws today,
The Children's Bill of Rights.  

   It says I need not clean my room,
   don't have to cut my hair
   No one can tell me what to think,
  or speak, or what to wear.
 
   I have freedom from religion,
  and regardless what you say,
   I don't have to bow my head,
   and I sure don't have to pray.

I can wear earrings if I want,
  and pierce my tongue nose.
  I can read watch just what I like,
   get tattoos from head to toe.
 
  And if you ever spank me,
  I'll charge you with a crime.
   I'll back up all my charges,
   with the marks on my behind.
 
   Don't preach about your morals,
   like e your Mama did to you.
   That's nothing more than mind control,
   And it's illegal too!
 
   Mom, I have these children's rights,
   so you can't influence me,
  or I'll call Children's Services Division,
   better know as C.S.D.
 
   X X X X
 
   Of course my first instinct was
   to toss him out the door.
   But the chance to teach him a lesson
   made me think a little more.
 
   I mulled it over carefully,
  I couldn't let this go.
  A smile crept upon my face,
   he's messing with a pro.
 
   Next day I took him shopping
  at the local Goodwill Store.
   I told him, Pick out all you want,
   there's shirts pants galore.
 
   I've called and checked with C.S.D.
   who said they didn't care
   if I bought you K-Mart shoes
   instead of those Nike Airs.
 
   I've canceled that appointment
   to take your driver's test.
   The C.S.D. is unconcerned
   so I'll decide what's best.
 
   I said No time to stop and eat,
  or pick up stuff to munch.
   And tomorrow you can start to learn
  to make your own sack lunch.
 
   Just save the raging appetite,
   and wait till dinner time.
  We're having liver and onions,
   a favorite dish of mine.
 
   He asked Can I please rent a movie,
   to watch on my VCR?
   Sorry, but I sold your TV,
  for new tires on my car.
 
   I also rented out your room,
   you'll take the couch instead.
   The C.S.D. requires
   just a roof over your head.
 
   Your clothing won't be trendy now,
   I'll choose what we eat.
  That allowance that you used to get,
   will buy me something neat.
 
   I'm selling off your jet ski,
   dirt-bike roller blades.
   Check out the Parents Bill of Rights,
   It's in effect today!
 
   Hey hot shot, are you crying,
   Why are you on your knees?
   Are you asking God to help you out,
  instead of C.S.D..?


Jean in Poole

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[lace-chat] RE: lace-chat microwave advice

2004-10-13 Thread Lynne Cumming
Hi Lindy,

I got a combination microwave (oven/grill/micro)when my last child was born
(17 yrs ago!) and we used that and a gas hob alone until we needed larger
amounts cooking (about 6 yrs)and then got a built in oven as well. We
finally got rid of the combi this year and went for a plain micro as we no
longer used the combi for baking and the grill was quite awkward to use.
Mostly due to it's position and the fact that the grill pan had to sit on a
high rack. I will say that we had an insurance on ours and had a new liner
as the enamel peeled badly on the first one which caused sparking. We also
had a new transformer and two new magnetrons in the time we had it. We are
quite happy with the small micro especially as it seems to have freed up so
much space.Be aware that most bakeware for the conventional ovens does not
fit in the combi micros as it hasd to go round and round. We have quite a
selection of unusal shaped bakeware! However, it was brilliant for us when
that was how we were cooking although Sunday roasts took some organising due
to lack of space inability to cook several different things at once.

Regards,

Lynne. 

Lynne Cumming
 Baldock, North Herts, UK
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[lace-chat] Back Again

2004-10-13 Thread David Collyer
Dear Friends,
What a week it's been!! I had to have a coronary angiogram last Friday and 
they found one large blockage of the Anterior Descending Artery - so severe 
that they weren't going to let me go anywhere.

So I spent the weekend in hospital here in Ballarat (thank God I had some 
tatting sent in) and then on Monday was transferred down to Melbourne where 
I had a stent inserted into the artery. I was sent home the very next day 
with a fabulous CD rom of my beating heart!!

But I am feeling - well, lots of things really - very sore, very tired, 
angry, pissed off, very touchy as I try to cut down on smokes and 
cholesterol. I'm afraid I ripped through a couple of nurses as I reminded 
them that nicotine is far harder to come off than narcotics - and I do know 
what I'm talking about - wouldn't ever recommend cold turkey to anyone - 
but this is far worse.

It's good to get back to some lovely fine Chantilly!
Love
David in Ballarat
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Re: [lace-chat] Back Again

2004-10-13 Thread Judy McCarty
David:  So glad to hear you were one of the lucky people who found the
problem in time to do something about it.

I guess they don't call those smokes coffin nails for nothing.  Good luck
with the cutting back; it will be worth all the aggravation in the long run.

I'll bet those bobbins will be flying to counteract all the frustrations you
are facing right now!

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[lace-chat] Re: [lace] demo table

2004-10-13 Thread Linda
A friend found these tables at Costco a couple of years ago and I got so
excited I bought two.  They're terrific for so many things!  They're sturdy,
adjustable and just the right size for all kinds of things!

Linda, the string-a-holic in Oregon where fall is in progress.

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Subject: [lace] demo table


 Well I purchased the Cadillac of roller pillows from Simon Toustou but my
usual round work tables are just not capable of holding the heavy pillow
securely.  A friend told me about a table she had purchased from Sams Club
that sounded just right.  I went today but there was nothing like it in the
store.  I then tried WalMart and found what she had described except they
only had black or turquoise.  Whilst trying to set the table up to check the
height I managed to persuade another shopper that it was just what she
needed for her craft.  It cost under $19 including tax.  I found the table
at the following site so you can see it for yourselves.  I bought a black
one and will be using it tomorrow when I demonstrate at a local church fair
and my old table can be used for the have a go pillow.  Hope the link
works.
 http://www.lifetime.com/TablesAndChairs/ProductDetails.aspx?product=79
 Janice


 Janice Blair
 Crystal Lake, 50 miles northwest of Chicago, Illinois, USA

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[lace-chat] RE: lace-chat microwave advice

2004-10-13 Thread Joy Beeson
I have a Victorinox Swiss Army Knife, with everything from toothpick to
scissors, that I have treasured for nearly forty years.  I keep it in the
top drawer of my dresser, so that I can see it every time I dress, and be
assured that I can find it if I ever want it.  

What's in my pocket is a knife with one locking blade.  It has been my
experience that simple things work better.  

-- 
Joy Beeson
http://home.earthlink.net/~joybeeson/
http://home.earthlink.net/~beeson_n3f/ 
west of Fort Wayne, Indiana, U.S.A.
where leaves are falling.

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Re: [lace-chat] Back Again

2004-10-13 Thread Jean Nathan
David, I'm so glad your problm is sorted out.

DH also smoked until he had a heart attack. He smoked the day before the
attack, but the following day he'd stopped. He hasn't smoked one or wanted
one since.

We both know exactly what you mean by nicotine being harder to come off than
narcotics. I also smoked - 20-30 a day from age 16 (when it was the
fashionable thing to do with my four inch long cigarette holder with a ring
of diamante round it!), and tried several times unsuccessfully to stop.
Being a teacher of 14 to 16 year-olds, I could smoke two cigarettes in a ten
minute break to get a big enough shot of nicotine to get me through the next
hour with some of them.

When I knew I was going to retire at age 54, I decided that I wouldn't need
the nicotine once I wasn't teaching any more and I had four months of
knowing when my retirement date was. The last cigarette I smoked was just
before I walked out of the smoking room in the school for the last time. I
haven't touched one, and haven't wanted one, since.

I'm not one of those smug I did it, so can you types, and I don't think
anyone who hasn't been addicted to it knows just how hard it is to give up.
I think I was very fortunate that my plan worked.

Hope all continues to go well.

Jean in Poole

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Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2004 3:33 PM
Subject: [lace-chat] Back Again


 Dear Friends,
 What a week it's been!! I had to have a coronary angiogram last Friday and
 they found one large blockage of the Anterior Descending Artery - so
severe
 that they weren't going to let me go anywhere.

 So I spent the weekend in hospital here in Ballarat (thank God I had some
 tatting sent in) and then on Monday was transferred down to Melbourne
where
 I had a stent inserted into the artery. I was sent home the very next day
 with a fabulous CD rom of my beating heart!!

 But I am feeling - well, lots of things really - very sore, very tired,
 angry, pissed off, very touchy as I try to cut down on smokes and
 cholesterol. I'm afraid I ripped through a couple of nurses as I reminded
 them that nicotine is far harder to come off than narcotics - and I do
know
 what I'm talking about - wouldn't ever recommend cold turkey to anyone -
 but this is far worse.

 It's good to get back to some lovely fine Chantilly!
 Love
 David in Ballarat

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[lace-chat] Contrail count

2004-10-13 Thread Jane Viking Swanson
Hi All,  As usual, ever since Alice in Oregon wrote about it,  I went to the
Astronomy site today.  http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/astropix.html

I looked further and Northern Hemisphere residents can help NASA by counting
contrails (jet trails) in the sky on October 14th and 15th sometime between
11am and 1pm.  I don't know why but I thought
some of you might be interested G.  The work sheet and data
sheet are at the following URL.
http://www.globe.gov/fsl/html/templ.cgi?sciweek2004lang=ennav=1

From what I read it seems that jet trails might be changing the
climate and they're studying that.  You don't have to be a student
or teacher to count the contrails and you can learn more about
clouds if you're interested.

Jane in Vermont, USA hoping it won't be overcast tomorrow!
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Re: [lace-chat] Back Again

2004-10-13 Thread W N Lafferty
David's got a stent in
And has to give up smokes
Despite the tatting in is pocket
He's in no mood for jokes

Noelene in Cooma
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Re: [lace-chat] Back Again

2004-10-13 Thread W N Lafferty
Try again

David's got a stent in
And has to give up smokes.
Despite tatting in his pocket
He's in no mood for jokes.

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Re: [lace-chat] RE: lace-chat microwave advice

2004-10-13 Thread Ruth Budge
Joy, if ever you decide to visit Australia, leave both your knives at home!! 
It's against the law to carry any knife in public here (well, at least in New
South Wales!).  If they were found at the airport, they'd be confiscated, or
you could be arrested on the street.   

These laws were introduced a few years ago after a wave of attacks on totally
innocent people, resulting in a number of deaths. 

Ruth Budge (Sydney, Australia) 

  --- Joy Beeson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
 I have a Victorinox Swiss Army Knife, with everything from toothpick to
 scissors, that I have treasured for nearly forty years.  I keep it in the
 top drawer of my dresser, so that I can see it every time I dress, and be
 assured that I can find it if I ever want it.  
 
 What's in my pocket is a knife with one locking blade.  It has been my
 experience that simple things work better.  
 
 -- 
 Joy Beeson
 http://home.earthlink.net/~joybeeson/
 http://home.earthlink.net/~beeson_n3f/ 
 west of Fort Wayne, Indiana, U.S.A.
 where leaves are falling.
 
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[lace-chat] RE: lace-chat microwave advice

2004-10-13 Thread Joy Beeson
At 08:49 AM 10/14/04 +1000, Ruth Budge wrote:

Joy, if ever you decide to visit Australia, leave both your knives at home!! 
It's against the law to carry any knife in public here (well, at least in New
South Wales!).  If they were found at the airport, they'd be confiscated, or
you could be arrested on the street.   

These laws were introduced a few years ago after a wave of attacks on totally
innocent people, resulting in a number of deaths. 

They say that hard cases make bad law -- I'd put it a little stronger in
this case.

When I went to Australia last March (A whirlwind tour of Sydney, Alice
Springs, and Cairns), I left the Victorinox home for fear of losing it, and
didn't yet own the locking-blade knife.  (I was much surprised, while
reading part of a Matt Helm novel a week or two ago, to learn that a
locking-blade knife is more spy-ly than a switchblade!)  I didn't have any
fuss over the knife and folding scissors attached to my purse -- but I put
the purse into checked baggage.  

I did have a great deal of fuss when I forgot and left a #8 crochet hook in
my carry-on, but they let me check my carry-on, after hastily transferring
the absolute necessities to Dave's, and it wasn't a very long flight.  I'd
have been even more worried had I known at the time that Patternworks no
longer sells 1.5 mm crochet hooks.  Except maybe as part of a very expensive
set.  (Patternworks was my last source of decent crochet hooks.
Fortunately, I now have a full set of knitting needles and crochet hooks.)

-- 
Joy Beeson
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west of Fort Wayne, Indiana, U.S.A.
where sycamore leaves are falling.  
(Sycamores shed all year round, actually.)

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