[lace] Knotting
Hi All, My understanding of a Josephine knot is both halves of a square knot with a single strand space inbetween. I bought a long shuttle a long time ago with a view to trying Filet Lace, looks like fishing net with filling stitches similar to what I have seen in other styles of lace books. Have yet to try, maybe with purpose created netting purchased from a specialist shop. Mary Carey Campbelltown, NSW, Australia - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
[lace] Agnes with a broken wrist
Hi Agnes At least you did not choose your right wrist. A broke my left and I am left-handed. Fortunately mine was not as painfull as yours sounds. Just to put the records straightI did not stay in hospital overnight, I was back in the hotel about 7pm and the only after effect of the anaesthetic was that I was sleeping 12 hours a day. Yesterday was the first day my sleeping started to reduce. The surgeon made a marvelous job involving a plate and 3 screws and I now only have a velcro fastened protective wrap with a splint to use when my wrist may be at risk. I have full use of my fingers, my typing is almost back to normal and my specialist has recommended lacemaking as therapy - what a wonderful excuse. It's somewhat slow as some turning, flexing and side-to side movements are still painful, but they are improving every day. Keep your fingers moving if you can and let me know how you get on. All best wishes. Alex. P.S. Thank you to all my 'mothers' at IOLI, everyone was so concerned and offering help all the time. You are a great bunch. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
Re: [lace] more knotting tatting?
They call it Scoobidou Faye it's done with 'plastic cords' and depending on how you do it you get either a round or a square cord. Sue in EY On 9 Aug 2010, at 04:22, colonialart...@frontier.com wrote: oh yeah.. the josephine knot is what the kids nowadays were using to make these pretty corded bracelets... and they were doing it free handed no shuttle what so ever... a young lady showed me how she did it some years back.. LOL and I cannot recall what she was calling this at that time. But I told her that was the Josephone Knot in Tatting... This cording you have I would love to see Faye Hegener , really up late after my bedtime in Drumore, PA - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
Re: [lace] Agnes with a broken wrist
Alex, with comments like that you'll be making everyone fall and break a wrist... VBG Seriously though, it's not nice breaking a bone I remember it well!! but if I ever do it again I'm asking for this surgeon! Hope it's better soon, it's bad enough being a leftie in a right handed society without breaking the left arm as well. You have another leftie's sympathy! Sue in EY On 9 Aug 2010, at 07:52, Alex Stillwell wrote: Hi Agnes my specialist has recommended lacemaking as therapy - what a wonderful excuse. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
[lace] Knotting
In message snt144-w300737add072cf418e6880de...@phx.gbl, mary carey d...@hotmail.com writes Hi All, My understanding of a Josephine knot is both halves of a square knot with a single strand space inbetween. That sounds more like a picot - a Josephine knot is a ring made up of stitches which are either the first half of a double stitch or the second half - not both as in a normal ring - makes for a very tiny ring. (Easy to do, wordy to describe!) I bought a long shuttle a long time ago with a view to trying Filet Lace, looks like fishing net with filling stitches similar to what I have seen in other styles of lace books. Have yet to try, maybe with purpose created netting purchased from a specialist shop. We used netting needles at college - look like a rod with a tuning fork at either end - you need something thinner than a shuttle if you are aiming for a fine mesh. -- Jane Partridge - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
Re: [lace] Knotting
That is correct, if you do it during a chain you get a neat continuous twist to the chain. Hmmm I have never seen knetting.. and this tuning fork implement... hmmm shoulds like something I need to look into.. will have to find these instructions also.. Faye Hegener , just awake and getting ready for work... - Original Message - From: Jane Partridge jpartri...@pebble.demon.co.uk To: mary carey d...@hotmail.com Cc: lace@arachne.com Sent: Monday, August 9, 2010 4:26:54 AM Subject: [lace] Knotting In message snt144-w300737add072cf418e6880de...@phx.gbl, mary carey d...@hotmail.com writes Hi All, My understanding of a Josephine knot is both halves of a square knot with a single strand space inbetween. That sounds more like a picot - a Josephine knot is a ring made up of stitches which are either the first half of a double stitch or the second half - not both as in a normal ring - makes for a very tiny ring. (Easy to do, wordy to describe!) I bought a long shuttle a long time ago with a view to trying Filet Lace, looks like fishing net with filling stitches similar to what I have seen in other styles of lace books. Have yet to try, maybe with purpose created netting purchased from a specialist shop. We used netting needles at college - look like a rod with a tuning fork at either end - you need something thinner than a shuttle if you are aiming for a fine mesh. -- Jane Partridge - - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
[lace] Netting
Jane said We used netting needles at college - look like a rod with a tuning fork at either end - you need something thinner than a shuttle if you are aiming for a fine mesh. It's the mesh stick, not the needle, which controls the size of the holes in the net. But I think that a shuttle shaped thread holder might be fiddly to hold, and you'd need to have the convoluted loops of the knot bigger than they perhaps need to be to thread it through. The knot is tricky enough to do anyway without fighting with the equipment. Having said that, the needle and mesh stick need to be in proportion with each other. If you are making a course net with a thickish thread, then a fine netting needle wouldn't be able to hold much thread. Conversely, if you are making a fine net, a large netting needle with a fine mesh stick would be awkward to handle. I have quite a collection of both new and antique netting tools - no-one seems much interested in the old ones and I have found them at good prices - but have yet to dedicate the time needed to become relaxed and speedy doing the knot. The actual embroidery bit seems like it should be a piece of cake compared to doing the net. I read yesterday about an analogy for doing things in life. If you take life as being a glass jar, and the things you must do or really want to do as large stones, then you have to fit the stones into the jar. The things that you would quite like to do are medium size stones, and they will fit into the spaces between the big ones. Finally all the things which take up time, but aren't really important are sand, and of course there is room to get lots and lots of sand between all the stones. The problem is when the sand, like playing computer games or staying in bed way too late, starts pushing out the stones. You need to allow the space for those big, important stones. Netting is a middle size stone, and I have too much sand. Jacquie in Lincolnshire - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
[lace] Wonderful Description from 1860
Dear Friends, I have almost finished reading a book which was a school prize awarded to my Grandfather, David McGARVIE, in 1902 when he was 10 years old. I can tell you that the language is even quite difficult for an adult. I doubt it has ever been read. The book is called Crown Empire - Glimpses of Royal Life by A.E. KNIGHT which is mainly centred around the life of King Edward VII and was published after Queen Victoria had died but prior to his coronation. On Thursday October 18th1860 the then Prince of Wales and his wife were on a visit to Canada and the USA, and whilst in Boston attended a ball held in their honour. I thought you would enjoy the description of some of the other folk there:- As to the ladies, if their should happen to be reporters present who are sufficiently acquainted with the bewildering technology of the mantua-makers, we trust that they may receive ample justice. For ourselves, we have only a confused recollection of beautiful shoulders, not too much encumbered, of necks undisfigured with chains and jewels, of gauzy muslins, glistening stains, and exquisitely tinted silks - of floral head-dresses, deep laces, recherche nosegays, and all the array of nameless trifles that make up the attire of the reigning belle. A more uniformly set of elegant costumes among 1500 ladies we never saw. The ball, in fact, was representative of Boston; substantial and comfortable; rich and attractive in its rather quiet way; well conducted; marked by good breeding, easy manners, and with just enough of curiosity respecting the guest of the evening to give piquancy to what might otherwise have been a prosaic entertainment. Oh where are those balls today??? Enjoy David in Ballarat - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
[lace] Re: knotting and tatting?
For those that want to know more, from what my sources tell me, the first recorded statement of tatting is in 1834. And with most handiwork you can assume that it had a beginning of many years before that with teachings and word of mouth. If you want detailed research on the history and recorded history of tatting, go to Dan Rusch-Fisher's website. He documented the majority of sources that will debunk some of the myths about tatting and confirm its origins. Click here: http://www.tribbler.com/tatman/ Then scroll down and click on the MISC link. On the left sidebar you will see the HISTORY, IN PRINT, MYTHS, and ORIGINS of TATTING links to read more about it. Just an FYI, -- Mark, aka Tatman website: http://www.tat-man.net blog: http://tat-man.net/blog Magic Thread Shop: http://www.tat-man.net/tatterville/tatshop/tatshop.html email: tat...@tat-man.net Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/tatmantats - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
[lace] Book Review for Left-handed Stitchers
Yvette Stanton's The Left-Handed Embroiderer's Companion - A Step-by-Step Stitch Dictionary, published by Vetty Creations in 2010, 978-0-9757677-3-3, PB. My copy came from Ruth Kern Books in the U.S., priced $29.(U.S. Amazon for $23.) This new book from Australia may be helpful to those who are left-handed. This will go on the embroidery side of my library -- but some of the stitches are used in needle-made laces or lacy embroidery, and edgings for items to which you may attach lace, such as: Buttonhole fillings with return and fancy buttonhole fillings (needlelace) Buttonhole bars and buttonhole with picot (Venetian picots) Eyelets Four-sided stitch (pulled-work) Hedebo stitch Hem stitching Holbein stitch (blackwork which mimics lace applied to linen) Needlewoven bars Plaited braid stitch (the gold metal coils seen on Elizabethan jackets) Trellis stitch (a detached needlelace filling stitch that appears as silk flower petals on Elizabethan jackets) There are many other basic and fancy stitches. Some Arachnids have not had stitching lessons in school, and need a resource book. This is very well illustrated, in color. From author's website, I learned there is a right-handed version. And other books on whitework. _www.vettycreations.com.au_ (http://www.vettycreations.com.au) Jeri Ames in Maine USA Lace and Embroidery Resource Center - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
[lace] IOLI vs OIDFA
Hi everyone; I am looking for input... I know what IOLI is, and have been to a number of their conventions. Their conventions are essentially their annual general meeting with classes, the classes being the more time consuming part of the week long event. I have heard of OIDFA, but have ignored them as they are not interested in tatting. But their congress every 3 years takes place in places I would like an excuse to visit. It was Japan this year, and next will be Australia, I heard. Have any of you spiders been to both events An IOLI conference and an OIDFA congress? Can you compare them for me? Thanks very much. Lauren - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
RE: [lace] Netting
Hi all, Margaret Morgan teaches netting here in Australia and I did her class in Brisbane at the Australian Lace Guild AGM. One of the hardest techniques to pick up. The knot is very involved and goes wrong if you loose concentration. I finished one small doyley in class over 2 days (and much of the night inbetween) and have completed another since but now that I have mastered the basics and can understand the process I might leave it at that. Not for the feint hearted but a great thing to do. Margaret was a great teacher and I don't think I ever would have picked it up from a book. Regards Annette Meldrum in a wet and cold Wollongong Australia -Original Message- From: owner-l...@arachne.com [mailto:owner-l...@arachne.com] On Behalf Of laceandb...@aol.com Sent: Monday, 9 August 2010 7:16 PM To: lace@arachne.com Subject: [lace] Netting Jane said We used netting needles at college - look like a rod with a tuning fork at either end - you need something thinner than a shuttle if you are aiming for a fine mesh. Netting is a middle size stone, and I have too much sand. Jacquie in Lincolnshire - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
Re: [lace] Ithaca Lace Day roommate
Funny thing, I too am looking for a roommate, but for the nearby campground. I pay, for four days, what I expect is less than one day for a double room at the hotel. The campground has nice bathrooms, good showers. This is a state park, and there is no electricity available. I am tenting. Please contact me privately if you're interested. Just think of all the extra money I'll have for the vendors! lrb lynrbai...@desupernet.net Lyn from Lancaster Pennsylvania, where the air conditioning is on for at least the next two days. -Original Message- From: Jennifer McNitt jenmcn...@yahoo.com Sent: Aug 9, 2010 2:22 PM To: l...@dont.panix.com Subject: [lace] Ithaca Lace Day roommate I'm planning on going to Ithaca for the Lace Day on Oct 8th-10th and I'm looking for a roommate to help share room expenses. I already have a room reserved with two double beds and will be arriving Friday night and will be leaving Monday afternoon. I'm really looking forward to attending. If anyone is interested, please e-mail me at jenmcn...@yahoo.com. Thanks! - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
RE: [lace] Book Review for Left-handed Stitchers
I'm intrigued. Will the lace or embroidery made by a left-handed worker be identifiable as such, once finished? And will this enable the maker to be more nearly identified? I'm imagining future textile experts saying well, this was made by a left-handed person in the early 21st century, and we know of only a few of those ... Margery. = margerybu...@o2.co.uk in North Hertfordshire, UK = -Original Message- From: owner-l...@arachne.com [mailto:owner-l...@arachne.com] On Behalf Of jeria...@aol.com Sent: Monday 09 August 2010 18:46 To: lace@arachne.com Subject: [lace] Book Review for Left-handed Stitchers Yvette Stanton's The Left-Handed Embroiderer's Companion - A Step-by-Step Stitch Dictionary, published by Vetty Creations in 2010, 978-0-9757677-3-3, PB. My copy came from Ruth Kern Books in the U.S., priced $29. (U.S. Amazon for $23.) This new book from Australia may be helpful to those who are left-handed. This will go on the embroidery side of my library -- but some of the stitches are used in needle-made laces or lacy embroidery, and edgings for items to which you may attach lace, such as: Buttonhole fillings with return and fancy buttonhole fillings (needlelace) Buttonhole bars and buttonhole with picot (Venetian picots) Eyelets Four-sided stitch (pulled-work) Hedebo stitch Hem stitching Holbein stitch (blackwork which mimics lace applied to linen) Needlewoven bars Plaited braid stitch (the gold metal coils seen on Elizabethan jackets) Trellis stitch (a detached needlelace filling stitch that appears as silk flower petals on Elizabethan jackets) There are many other basic and fancy stitches. Some Arachnids have not had stitching lessons in school, and need a resource book. This is very well illustrated, in color. From author's website, I learned there is a right-handed version. And other books on whitework. _www.vettycreations.com.au_ (http://www.vettycreations.com.au) Jeri Ames in Maine USA Lace and Embroidery Resource Center - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
