[lace] bobbin weight
Sharon I don't think anyone ever went to the trouble of weighing all the different kinds of bobbins. At least, I've never heard of anyone doing that. A good way of estimating the type of bobbin that a thread works with is to look at the neck of the bobbin -- the thread storage area. Certain styles of bobbins were typically used for certain regional types, and those regional styles of lace were typically worked in a narrow range of thread sizes. So, for instance, Honiton was and is worked with extremely fine thread. If you look at a Honiton bobbin you can see that there is a very shallow neck. Honiton thread was so fine it didn't need a large thread storage area. the same is true of midlands bobbins. Bucks point and Bedfordshire are fine thread laces, but not quite as fine as Honiton. The midlands bobbins have a shallow and limited thread storage area, but it is larger than a Honiton bobbin. Bayeux bobbins were used for the French version of point ground lace, which was also worked in fine thread. Same for Binche bobbins and Binche lace. Cluny was typically used for household furnishings. This meant it had to be stronger, thicker thread, and able to survive the kind of washing given to bedsheets. The thread was thicker than that used for point ground. Belgian torchon bobbins were also used for laces made for household use. And these bobbins have a substantial, fairly deep, thread storage area. Swedish bobbins have an even deeper, larger thread storage area. Many of their laces were also for household use. Thick thread needed for a bedsheet edging needs lots of storage area, or you would be replacing bobbins every 6 inches. This is how I use various bobbins, others may have different ideas. Belgian torchon, Swedish, -- 30/2 linen - #80 cordonnet Modern Danish -- 60/2 -100/2 linen, 100 cordonnet Modern Dutch -- 120/2 - 140/2 linen Midlands -- 100/2 linen or finer. Lorelei - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] bobbin weight - thread size realtionship?
Sent from my iPhone On 29 Apr 2013, at 07:14 AM, Sharon Morrison sharon_morri...@comcast.net wrote: Hi Arachnes, I am have been playing around making some bobbins. They are lovely Sharon, and have only recently heard about 3D printing. But I am still intrigued; what material are they made with? Karen in Malta - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] bobbin weight
So Lorelei what bobbins would you recommend I use for a fairly thick yarn to make a scarf or shawl? I need to use something that can hold lots of yarn because I'm sure knots would show. Karen in Malta Sent from my iPhone - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
[lace] Where can I buy this pattern?
Is this pattern familiar to any of you? I would like very much to buy it. https://picasaweb.google.com/bolillos.marixa/MirandaDeEbro13#5867527567494818 994 Ann-Marie Andersson - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Where can I buy this pattern?
Ann Marie, I think the link is no good... Maybe I can answer you this lady is from Spain. Kind regards Carolina.Barcelona. Enviado desde mi iPad El 29/04/2013, a las 14:02, Ann-Marie Andersson a-...@telia.com escribió: Is this pattern familiar to any of you? I would like very much to buy it. https://picasaweb.google.com/bolillos.marixa/MirandaDeEbro13#5867527567494818 994 Ann-Marie Andersson - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/ - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Where can I buy this pattern?
Hello Ann Marie, The butterfly pattern is designed by Pam Mattioli and is included in Vuelta y Cruz /Twist and Cross Number 2. The web site is www.vueltaycruz.es If you want more details, I am the editor of the magazine and can inform you. Best wishes, Antje, from Spain. Antje * * *Photography is like life... you can change perspective by changing your point of view! * 2013/4/29 Ann-Marie Andersson a-...@telia.com Is this pattern familiar to any of you? I would like very much to buy it. https://picasaweb.google.com/bolillos.marixa/MirandaDeEbro13#5867527567494818 994 Ann-Marie Andersson - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/ - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
[lace] scarf bobbin
When I make a scarf with yarns, I use my largest Belgian or Danish bobbins. Wind the yarn on both the thread area and the handle of the bobbin. Yes, they look weird and are a bit ungainly to start with, but you can make the shawl without adding yarns. (I wind the thread area level with the ends, then wind the handle to the same depth, then continue winding over both sections until done.) I have used some fancy thread kits from Ireland that have 10 meters each of ten different fancy yarns. I cut each thread in half and wind each half on a pair of bobbins. This puts 2.5 meters on a bobbin. These will make into a 1.5-2 yard scarf if used as passives and not workers. I add a lot more yarn for the workers and other passives. Depending on the size of yarn, you should be able to get 10 yards or more on a bobbin using the whole bobbin for winding. If you are fringing the scarf, you can wind each bobbin separately instead of in pairs. It's much easier when winding long yarns. I have a vague memory of a friend saying she used pencils to wind her yarn on when making a scarf when she didn't have large bobbins. I think she put an elastic band around the top end so the yarn wouldn't slide off. I can't verify this... it may just be a rumor. The main point is to just use whatever works for you. Alice in Oregon ... facing a warm sunny week. Spring must really be here. - Original Message - From: Karen Zammit Manduca kazama...@gmail.com ... what bobbins would you recommend I use for a fairly thick yarn to make a scarf or shawl? I need to use something that can hold lots of yarn because I'm sure knots would show. Karen in Malta - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] bobbin weight - thread size realtionship?
Dear Sharon, et al, As you have already seen, the same bobbin in a different wood weighs differently. I usually buy the cheapest in the shape I want, usually a pale wood, usually identified as palm or guatambu. But I like to buy the rosewood variety as well, a dozen, as sometimes identifying the worker or the gimp is helpful. I always notice that the rosewood is noticeably heavier for the same wood. So there seems to be a variety of weights in the same bobbin style. I doubt it would make that much difference, but they are not the same. Lyn in Lancaster, Pennsylvania, USA, where it's going to be wet and cool all week, but drier late in the week, which is good because I'll be tent camping near the Maryland Sheep and Wool. Estonian lace knitting. Sharon wrote: I am have been playing around making some bobbins (using unconventional methods) and I am trying to determine a good weight. Are there any guidelines on weight of a bobbin as related to thread size, or weight for various types of bobbins â continental, square etc. e sun in the last week!) p.s. here is a picture of some of my bobbins http://www.lacemakers.org/meetings/april-2013 â the blue/variegated ones are 4 grams and the translucent/whitish ones are 5 grams. My email sends out an automatic message. Arachne members, please ignore it. I read your emails. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] scarf bobbin
A couple of things that I have learnt the hard way from working on patterns from Jacquie Barbers; tradition into creation. If the thread tries very hard to slip off the bobbin she recommends using a small springy hair clip; a smaller version of the things you clip long hair up with. They are about £2 for 6 in the supermarket and cheaper on market stalls Secondly, you have to see which way the yarn is spun. I wound all my bobbins as though I was using cotton or linen and some of the lace weight wools simple snapped because they had been spun in the opposite direction to cotton and were undoing themselves as I went. Kind Regards Liz Baker On 29 Apr 2013, at 15:11, lacel...@frontier.com wrote: When I make a scarf with yarns, I use my largest Belgian or Danish bobbins. - Original Message - From: Karen Zammit Manduca kazama...@gmail.com ... what bobbins would you recommend I use for a fairly thick yarn to make a scarf or shawl? I need to use something that can hold lots of yarn because I'm sure knots would show. Karen in Malta - - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
RE: [lace] bobbin weight - thread size realtionship?
I sort of vaguely remembered that this topic came up before and Kenn van Dieren gave his website address for the information and fortunately it is still there. He gives the weight of bobbins made from different types of wood. http://www.bobbinmaker.com/mixedstyle.html Jeanette Fischer, Western Cape, South Africa. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Where can I buy this pattern?
Thanks for the tiny URL Sue. I don't know where that pattern comes from although it looks familiar, but I took the opportunity of looking at the whole gallery of pictures. What inspiring laces there are! Wish I could go to a Spanish Lace Day. I will keep the URL so that I can drool again another day. Janis in South Africa Subject: Re: [lace] Where can I buy this pattern? Here's a tiny url for it: Sue - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
[lace] where can I buy this pattern
Ann-Marie From the color of the card, and the Spanish lacemaker I think Roka might be the pattern seller. Roka is a supplier of patterns which a lot of Spanish lacemakers use. They are always printed on orange card. Their website has a huge number of patterns. I don't have the exact url, but a search should find them. Lorelei - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
[lace] bobbin weight
Karen Look at these photos from my website: http://lynxlace.com/images/bobbins-traditional.jpgThe 5th from the left is a large Danish bobbin which I use for pearl 5 or linen 20/2 or similar. The 6th from the right would be better for something thicker, like linen 10/2, pearl 3, etc. These are some I made specifically for thick threads: http://lynxlace.com/images/bobbins.jpg The blue yarn is 10/2 linen. But I could have made them with larger necks (longer and deeper. The large thick bobbins are 6 inches long. The few smaller ones on the left are the same length as standard bobbins, but are a little thicker. This one shows the 6 inch bobbins in use. Thread size is similar to 20/2 linen, with some pearl 5. Lorelei - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
[lace] yarn bombing
a yarn bombed tree (crochet) http://www.flickr.com/photos/woolly_fabulous/3710806443/in/photostream/ Lorelei - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
[lace] 3D printed bobbins - materials
Hi Karen, Many people use Acrylonitrile Butadiene Styrene (ABS) for 3D printing (Legos are made from ABS). It is stronger/more flexible than PLA, but I dislike the smell it gives off when heated. (Hobby 3D printers use thin lines of melted plastic to build up an object layer by layer). The plastic I use for my 3D printer is PLA - polyactic acid. It's a bio-degradable polymer typically made from corn (at least in the U.S.). I like to use PLA because it does not emit smelly fumes when heated. I use Sharpies (permanent markers) to tint the translucent blue PLA to get the color variations. The downside to PLA is that it can be brittle. One bobbin falling will bounce and not break, but I knocked a tightly packed container of printed bobbins off the table and several heads broke off - ouch. I found that I can heat a pin and push it into the bobbin head and down into the neck to provide additional strength.I can also change print settings to make the neck area more solid (and hopefully stronger), but this will change the weight of the entire bobbin. Colorants added to the plastic filament during manufacture also can influence strength flexibility of the made object. Sharon They are lovely Sharon, and have only recently heard about 3D printing. But I am still intrigued; what material are they made with? Karen in Malta= - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Peeps bobbins
OK ladies and Gents lets fess up. How many of us thought when we read the word Peeps of the Easter candy treat painted on bobbins... I did, but I like the sight peep better. Donna near Chicago where spring has finally come. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Peeps bobbins
And now you need to explain to those of us who aren't American, what the peeps of Easter candy are? After 13 years of living in IL, I've heard the name , but don't know what it means! Sue On Mon, Apr 29, 2013 at 3:35 PM, Donna Fousek ibal...@yahoo.com wrote: OK ladies and Gents lets fess up. How many of us thought when we read the word Peeps of the Easter candy treat painted on bobbins... I did, but I like the sight peep better. Donna near Chicago where spring has finally come. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/ - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
[lace] Peeps
'Peeps' are a marshmallow candy in the shape of little chicks. OK... now they make other shapes, but chicks were the beginning. They are shaped and colored cute but not much taste, and little food value. Originally seen mainly at Easter but now found in various forms all year. Alice in Oregon ... getting ready to be the program at Ladies Luncheon next Saturday at church. Am also decorating the tables with bobbins, thread, cover cloths, and hedgehogs. Lace and pillows will be on a display table. My talk is History of lace. - Original Message - From: Sue Babbs suebabbs...@gmail.com And now you need to explain to those of us who aren't American, what the peeps of Easter candy are? After 13 years of living in IL, I've heard the name , but don't know what it means! Sue - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Peeps bobbins
Thank you for that explanation. I've always wondered but never stopped and asked before! Sue On Mon, Apr 29, 2013 at 3:59 PM, bertra...@gmail.com wrote: Sue, They are marshmallow figures in shapes of chicks, rabbits and eggs. They were originally just chicks in yellow marshmallow. Now they have all different shapes and colors to include yellow, pink, blue green. They are now making them for Christmas in different shapes too. Hope this helps. Sallie in WY USA Sent from my iPhone On Apr 29, 2013, at 3:45 PM, Sue Babbs suebabbs...@gmail.com wrote: And now you need to explain to those of us who aren't American, what the peeps of Easter candy are? After 13 years of living in IL, I've heard the name , but don't know what it means! Sue On Mon, Apr 29, 2013 at 3:35 PM, Donna Fousek ibal...@yahoo.com wrote: OK ladies and Gents lets fess up. How many of us thought when we read the word Peeps of the Easter candy treat painted on bobbins... I did, but I like the sight peep better. Donna near Chicago where spring has finally come. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/ - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/ - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
[lace] lace photos
for those who love to wear their lace: https://picasaweb.google.com/114351299524982846955/SANVALENTIN28DeAbrilDe2013 ?feat=content_notification#5872022109688950994 Lorelei - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
RE: [lace] Peeps and talk on History of Lace
Dear Alice, Your idea of decorating tables with bobbins and lace equipment is a great idea to set the theme for your talk. A great education for some who would not be familiar with these things and never seen such things up close and more importantly be able to touch! I hope to remember the idea for next time I am asked to speak about lace. Thank you. Great idea! Annette in wet Wollongong, Australia. We need the rain so I am not complaining. -Original Message- From: owner-l...@arachne.com [mailto:owner-l...@arachne.com] On Behalf Of lacel...@frontier.com Alice in Oregon ... getting ready to be the program at Ladies Luncheon next Saturday at church. Am also decorating the tables with bobbins, thread, cover cloths, and hedgehogs. Lace and pillows will be on a display table. My talk is History of lace. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
RE: [lace] scarf bobbin
Cheap chopsticks make ideal bobbins for scarves, with the hair grip as suggested by Liz, or just rubber bands tightly wound above and below the thread to stop it from slipping. I've tried this - it works. Noelene in Cooma nlaffe...@ozemail.com.au I have a vague memory of a friend saying she used pencils to wind her yarn on when making a scarf when she didn't have large bobbins. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Peeps bobbins
Sorry about not explaining what peeps are in the US. For those of you who do not know about peep marshmallow treats. They originally came out at Easter. They where a marshmallow shaped as a chick covered all over in yellow sugar. Now they are now available all year long come in and come in different shapes and color to corresponding with what holiday is coming up. You either like them or don't. There is a following that has diorama contest with this tasty treat. go to http://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/magazine/peeps From: Sue Babbs suebabbs...@gmail.com To: Donna Fousek ibal...@yahoo.com Cc: lace@arachne.com lace@arachne.com Sent: Monday, April 29, 2013 3:45 PM Subject: Re: [lace] Peeps bobbins And now you need to explain to those of us who aren't American, what the peeps of Easter candy are? After 13 years of living in IL, I've heard the name , but don't know what it means! Sue On Mon, Apr 29, 2013 at 3:35 PM, Donna Fousek ibal...@yahoo.com wrote: OK ladies and Gents lets fess up. How many of us thought when we read the word Peeps of the Easter candy treat painted on bobbins... I did, but I like the sight peep better. Donna near Chicago where spring has finally come. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/ - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Peeps bobbins
I did think of the peeps. I've never actually had one. They seem to have a cult following, just like twinkees. John Mead Tacoma, WA USA - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Participation in IOLI (and other) conferences
Earl Ruth Johnson ejohn...@magma.ca wrote: ...so could we consider holding conferences in the off-season months of April, May, October or November? Yes, schools and universities are in session but it seems using school classrooms. cafeterias, and dormitories is not a popular idea. In off-season months those us of âa certain ageâ are usually free of competing holiday activities and visitors. - One difficulty here is that there are a whole lot of teachers, school librarians and university faculty who make lace. None of those can go to a convention during the school year. I agree that we can never please all, but they're actually a large group who would be left out. Robin P. Los Angeles, California, USA robinl...@socal.rr.com Parvum leve mentes capiunt (Little things amuse little minds) - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
[lace-chat] corned beef
If you try to make corned beef hash with our corned beef, you end up with a mush. I tried it before we realised that US corned beef isn't the stuff that comes in tins here, but is totally different. When using an American recipe we have to look up the internet to see what some of the ingredients are known to us as. There are some variatons on what food is called within the UK: A soft bread roll in the south is a barm cake inparts of the north and I know that when we wanted ham in Sheffield many, many years ago it was referred to as cooked ham - just ham was bacon. Jean in Poole, Dorset, UK To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
