[lace] Re: Cynthia Voysey
Condolences to Cynthia's family and friends and to the lacemaking community. I never had the privilege of attending one of her lace courses but I treasure her book A Practical Guide to Honiton and BL in photographs and NL in Photographs and frequently refer to them. These books will keep her memory alive. Janis in South Africa where we are having warm and sunny autumn days -- Janis Savage t/a The Lace Place, P O Box 2126, Honeydew, 2040, South Africa www.thelaceplace.co.za blog: a lacemakers blog - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
[lace] Properly Use this Subject Line, Please!
Recently, I have received quite a few private messages that just say Info (or similar), or are blank. They often have an attachment. These are deleted without opening. One yesterday was from someone named Hill, but sometimes the sender's name is not clear. Please do not expect multi-tasking lacemakers to remember everyone and their eMail addresses. For personal letters requesting help, and for all correspondence to Arachne, please try to think about what Subject is most appropriate - what can be researched in the future in old personal files and in Arachne's archives. On another matter, please give us a clue as to whom you are, and from where. Replies are sometimes customized for different geographic areas in the world. New technology seems to ignore the politeness of just a few years ago, and all we get are sent from my (device name), or something of the like advertising a company. If you expect us to read a note, please consider that we may do a bit of research for you. We send replies, and sometimes do not know if they were helpful. Arachne is unique in that you will usually receive help from someone. But, don't expect us to read between the lines what specific help you need, and what you already know and don't need us to repeat. Thanks to all, Jeri Ames in Maine USA Lace and Embroidery Resource Center - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] 1931 lace making clip
Wonderful film clip! Thank you Sue for sharing it!. So after another 20 years, maybe I can make tallies with one hand? Maybe I could start with just making braids. http://youtu.be/IwcSaAXtZsc Beth McCasland in cloudy cool Seattle, Washington, USA - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] 1931 lace making clip
Thanks for sharing, Sue! This is a very well-known Beds pattern; I’ve seen it, or a close cousin, in several books. I think since it is British Pathe that made the film, it is set in Britain, so that’s another vote for Beds. The film is probably part of a whole series of films Pathe made around the same time, called something like the Crafts of Britain. Somewhere on the Internet they have put up all of these films - I watched one lovely one on spinning and weaving. But I can’t remember just where I found them. Adele West Vancouver, BC (west coast of Canada) On May 25, 2015, at 9:02 AM, Bespokethreadsandyarns bespokethreadsandya...@gmail.com wrote: Shared this on facebook. A British Pathe silent black and white clip of bobbin lace. Single handed! On facebook we had several say Lace type is Beds but one said Cluny. What do you all think? Sue http://youtu.be/IwcSaAXtZsc - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
[lace] The Late Cynthia Voysey's Books
Let us share the details of Voysey's books so members of Arachne can watch for them at used book sales, like the current list offered by The Lace Guild. Or, if you would like to order her books from a library. 1. 1984 - New Designs in Honiton Lace by Pat Perryman and Cynthia Voysey, Batsford, 119-pg. Hardback, 0-7134-3742-1 2. 1987 - Bobbin Lace in Photographs by Cynthia Voysey, Batsford, 127-pg. Artbook-size hardback, 0-7134-5331-1 3. 1987 - Needlelace in Photographs by Cynthia Voysey, Batsford, 127-pg. Artbook-size hardback, 0-7134-5560-8 4. 1991 - Honiton Lace - a Practical Guide, by Cynthia Voysey, Bishopsgate Press, 93-pg. Softcover, 1-85219-057-4 It is of interest to note that Voysey had an interest in photography since childhood (long before she took up lacemaking) and her 2 books of lace photos are lovely. The laces are presented as works of art. Published before today's digital photography, the images are very clear for the lace person who is interested in identifying lace details from the 17th through 20th centuries. She chose to photograph privately-owned laces and laces in the collection of the Royal Albert Memorial Museum in Exeter - not the laces found in museums of London, Paris, New York, etc. In each of these two books, she quoted (opposite from the Contents page) from George Bernard Shaw's Back to Methuselah, as follows: Bobbin Lace: You use a glass mirror to see your face; you use works of art to see your soul. Needlelace: Without art, the crudeness of reality would make the world unbearable. To paraphrase a paragraph in Needlelace: The more you look, the more you see. The more you know, the more you realize how little you know. That pretty much sums it up for those of us trying to identify and define all the varieties of lace in our world, past and present. Jeri Ames in Maine USA Lace and Embroidery Resource Center - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] 1931 lace making clip
I am sure it is Bedfordshire, because of the pattern, the pillow ( an East Midlands bolster) and because of the bobbins which are Bedfordshire thumpers. Kathleen In a dull but unfortunately still dry ( for the gardens) Berkshire. Sent from my iPad On 25 May 2015, at 17:02, Bespokethreadsandyarns bespokethreadsandya...@gmail.com wrote: Shared this on facebook. A British Pathe silent black and white clip of bobbin lace. Single handed! On facebook we had several say Lace type is Beds but one said Cluny. What do you all think? Sue http://youtu.be/IwcSaAXtZsc - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/ - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
[lace] 1931 lace making clip
Shared this on facebook. A British Pathe silent black and white clip of bobbin lace. Single handed! On facebook we had several say Lace type is Beds but one said Cluny. What do you all think? Sue http://youtu.be/IwcSaAXtZsc - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] 1931 lace making clip
At 1.50mins quite clearly Beds, and unspangled Midlands style bobbins too. Did you notice how much she was doing one handed at 37/38 seconds, more than just twisting, she was doing the tiny bit of plait between picots with her left hand so the other hand was free to get the pin for the next picot Love the insistent child, wants to be centre frame; what a lovely grin. Jacquie in Lincolnshire - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] 1931 lace making clip
Imagine my surprise when I watched the clip and saw the exact edging I am currently working on. The pattern was published in Geraldine Stott's Bobbin Lace Manual, page84. It is called Running River. She says, this old Bedfordshire pattern is meant to represent the meandering River Ouse at Bedford, with the many water lilies that lie on the river there. I did not learn to make bobbin lace until I was in my 60's. Needless to say, I envy the speed with which the lady is working. And one handed? Oh,my. An article in Lace magazine from the 1970's said local lace makers believed a person could not learn properly after the age of 4. Jean Reardon, Mercer PA Where the sun and clouds are competing for preeminence, but at least it is warm - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
[lace] 1931 lace making clip
It’s a fascinating film clip. The pattern she’s making is in Geraldine Stott’s Bobbin Lace Manual where she says “ This old Bedfordshire pattern is meant to represent the meandering River Ouse at Bedford , with the many waterlilies that lie on the river there.” It also appears in Pamela Nottingham’s Technique of Bobbin Lace (original edition) where it is called Bedfordshire spider pattern. In both of them half stitch is used for the ‘spider/waterlily’ while I think the film shows cloth stitch. Jean in Glasgow where we’ve had a sunny Bank Holiday Monday - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] 1931 lace making clip
The lighter coloured pillow was on the table with the lady winding bobbins so presumably the other worker was her. The pattern/s though called Bedfordshire lace were made in all the East Midlands counties. The pillow/s and bobbins are typically the types used is South Buckinghamshire. Also in that area it was normal for worker not to use a pillow stand/horse and work like continental lacemakers - with one hand moving the bobbins the other pinning up. Diana in Northamptonshire Sent from Diana's iPad On 25 May 2015, at 19:33, Kathleen Harris ec...@cix.co.uk wrote: Yes, there are two pieces of lace being made, and, presumably, two lace makers. The patterns are similar, but one has tallies and one doesn't, and it is the different pillow covers which give the game away, as well as the fact that one lace maker puts her pins in more tidily than the other! Kathleen In Berkshire, UK Sent from my iPad On 25 May 2015, at 19:09, dmt11h...@aol.com wrote: Oops. The piece with the tallies has the 5 nine-pin motifs per scallop. In a message dated 5/25/2015 2:07:45 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, dmt11h...@aol.com writes: Am I the only person who sees two different, although similar, pieces of lace being made in this clip. One of them has tallies, and 3 nine-pin edging things on each head side scallop and is made on a pillow with a strong strip pattern. The other has 5 nine-pin edging things on each scallop and no tallies that I can see, and the pillow is light colored. Devon - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/ - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/ - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] 1931 lace making clip
Yes, there are two pieces of lace being made, and, presumably, two lace makers. The patterns are similar, but one has tallies and one doesn't, and it is the different pillow covers which give the game away, as well as the fact that one lace maker puts her pins in more tidily than the other! Kathleen In Berkshire, UK Sent from my iPad On 25 May 2015, at 19:09, dmt11h...@aol.com wrote: Oops. The piece with the tallies has the 5 nine-pin motifs per scallop. In a message dated 5/25/2015 2:07:45 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, dmt11h...@aol.com writes: Am I the only person who sees two different, although similar, pieces of lace being made in this clip. One of them has tallies, and 3 nine-pin edging things on each head side scallop and is made on a pillow with a strong strip pattern. The other has 5 nine-pin edging things on each scallop and no tallies that I can see, and the pillow is light colored. Devon - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/ - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
[lace] Pathe Films
Just took a moment to search and came up with this link: http://www.britishpathe.com/search/query/bobbin+lace which has the film Sue shared, plus a couple of other British Pathe films about lacemaking. Adele West Vancouver BC (west coast of Canada) - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
[lace] Museums near Bayeux
Hallo Arachnids, since I’ll be near Bayeux the first week of June: does anyone of you have the addresses and opening times of the lace museums in Caen and Bayeux? Anything else I shouldn’t miss while I’m there? Best from Berlin, where spring starts at long last, Achim. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Picot problems
On 25 May 2015, at 19:58, Susan hottl...@neo.rr.com wrote: Before I aggravate myself with another strip, could someone lend a hand with advice? Susan, Working a twisted picot: 1. Take pin from outside under outer thread of twisted pair, bring point of pin towards you and out to the side over the thread, place pin (this can be somewhere in the pillow at a distance from the pattern). 2. Check that the thread to the bobbin is on the underside of the loop round the pin. 3. Bring other thread of pair below and round the back of the pin to lie beside other thread. (For left-hand picots this will be clockwise, for right-hand picots anti-clockwise.) 4. Check that the threads coming away from the pin are one below and one above the threads going to the pin. (The diagram on kloskant week 45 shows this for a picot on the right-hand side of the lace.) This is necessary so that when you tension the twists stay together and end up around the pin. 5. If you’ve placed the pin away from the pricking you can now move it carefully into its pinhole. (Placing the pin away from the pricking initially and then moving it into place is a trick I was shown any years ago.) I suggest trying this to both right and left with a pair wound with thick thread so you can really see what’s happening. Jean in Glasgow where the sun is still shining - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] 1931 lace making clip
Oops. The piece with the tallies has the 5 nine-pin motifs per scallop. In a message dated 5/25/2015 2:07:45 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, dmt11h...@aol.com writes: Am I the only person who sees two different, although similar, pieces of lace being made in this clip. One of them has tallies, and 3 nine-pin edging things on each head side scallop and is made on a pillow with a strong strip pattern. The other has 5 nine-pin edging things on each scallop and no tallies that I can see, and the pillow is light colored. Devon - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] 1931 lace making clip
Am I the only person who sees two different, although similar, pieces of lace being made in this clip. One of them has tallies, and 3 nine-pin edging things on each head side scallop and is made on a pillow with a strong strip pattern. The other has 5 nine-pin edging things on each scallop and no tallies that I can see, and the pillow is light colored. Devon - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
[lace] Picot problems
Hello All! Today is Memorial Day in the U.S., so if you aren't busy with brats brews, hope you are enjoying our freedoms making some lace! Yesterday, I worked on lace for the first time since Christmas. Yes, hanging my head in shame. My only defense is that my needlepoint shoe project is done, done, done! I started with that cute little edging from www.kloskant.com, week 45, 2014. Picots I have a rocky relationship yesterday was more of the same. What could be causing my failure to launch?? Armed with Practical Skills, I used five twists to make a right handed twisted picot. Several repeats later, out come the pins voila, two loops at each picot! Somehow they are not locking themselves together as shown in the diagrams. Before I aggravate myself with another strip, could someone lend a hand with advice? As to thread, I didn't have DMC so used Anchor. Many thanks. Sincerely, Susan Hottle, Erie, PA! USA Sent from my iPad - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Picot problems
Dear Susan, Happy Memorial Day to you. btw, those shoes are gorgeous. Picots can be tricky little guys. I finally began to make satisfactory ones after a class on Bucks with Alex Stillwell. She said 7 twists, and then the secret, which is to have absolutely no tension on either thread until you are ready to tension at the end. That seemed to do the trick, and eliminated almost all bunny ears. Susan wrote: Picots I have a rocky relationship yesterday was more of the same. What could be causing my failure to launch?? Armed with Practical Skills, I used five twists to make a right handed twisted picot. Several repeats later, out come the pins voila, two loops at each picot! Somehow they are not locking themselves together as shown in the diagrams. Before I aggravate myself with another strip, could someone lend a hand with advice? As to thread, I didn't have DMC so used Anchor. Lyn in Lancaster, Pennsylvania, USA where it is almost perfect weather for the first grilling of the season. I just found out that this is the day Americans wear poppies. This is the day we remember our war dead. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Picot problems
Susan, when making a picot, leave the first thread around the pin a little loose and then wrap the second thread around the pin. Tighten both threads against the pin at the same time. This ensures that the picots don't split. Tightening the first thread before the second thread is in position is what causes the two separate loops (known as split picots). Ruth Budge (Sydney Australia) On 26 May 2015, at 4:58 am, Susan hottl...@neo.rr.com wrote: Picots I have a rocky relationship yesterday was more of the same. What could be causing my failure to launch?? Armed with Practical Skills, I used five twists to make a right handed twisted picot. Several repeats later, out come the pins voila, two loops at each picot! Somehow they are not locking themselves together as shown in the diagrams. Before I aggravate myself with another strip, could someone lend a hand with advice? - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Picot problems
What helped me finally get my picots right was learning to put them round the pin in the correct direction. Left hand picots both threads go clockwise. Right hand picot both threads go counterclockwise. And I agree, no tension until it pulls up to the pin. I know you probably already know this, so please forgive if it sounds too elementary. Jean Reardon, Mercer Pa - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] 1931 lace making clip
Yes, two different patterns on different pillows, but both were using South Bucks thumper bobbins and both had the footsie on the right, so English, therefore Bedsrather than Cluny. At the end it said 40 yards of lace requires for a âshadeâ followed by a clip of a parasol covered with some form of guipure/all over lace; probably machine made! http://youtu.be/IwcSaAXtZsc http://youtu.be/IwcSaAXtZsc Brenda in Allhallows paternos...@appleshack.com www.brendapaternoster.co.uk - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Subject: [lace] 1931 lace making clip
I noticed I the difference in the pricking background colors and the pillow covers but did not notice the different bobbins.  Funny what we see when not looking closely. Sue, you mentioned discussing this on Facebook.  Which group are you on because I did not see the conversation on Bobbin Lace Makers.Janice Shared this on facebook. A British Pathe silent black and white clip of bobbin lace. Single handed! On facebook we had several say Lace type is Beds but one said Cluny. What do you all think? Sue http://youtu.be/IwcSaAXtZsc  Janice Blair Murrieta, CA, 60 miles north of San Diego www.jblace.com www.lacemakersofillinois.org - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Subject: [lace] 1931 lace making clip
I spotted the difference of the pricking paper color first and then checked the pillows.  I didn't notice the different bobbins though. Sue, you mentioned chat about it on Facebook, which group do you belong to?  I did not see this conversation on Bobbin Lace Makers.Janice Shared this on facebook. A British Pathe silent black and white clip of bobbin lace. Single handed! On facebook we had several say Lace type is Beds but one said Cluny. What do you all think? Sue http://youtu.be/IwcSaAXtZsc  Janice Blair Murrieta, CA, 60 miles north of San Diego www.jblace.com www.lacemakersofillinois.org - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
