Re: [lace] Mending fences for 2017 Arachne exchange

2017-09-07 Thread Jacqui Southworth
Well said Susan - I agree with all you say. Please don't let it change 
this wonderful friendship of lacemakers.


ttfn Jacqui


On 08/09/2017 01:46, Susan wrote:

Arachne is such a caring, sharing group, I am totally gobsmacked.  Please, let's not allow hurt 
feelings to divide us or derail our holiday exchange.  We are so lucky to have several cheerful, 
willing & capable volunteers who want to make our exchange a success.  Most groups can't find 
volunteers at all!  Discord is corrosive & my worst fear is that Arachne members might choose 
sides & the exchange could implode.  Volunteers--can you put aside your differences & work 
together?  Will you work together in the spirit of the holiday season?  Each of you brings unique 
abilities & pooling your efforts lightens the load on any one individual.  We have an 
opportunity for the sum of the parts to be greater than the whole.  In lace friendship...   
Sincerely, Susan Hottle USA




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Fwd: [lace] Lace art by Agnes Herczeg

2017-09-07 Thread Lbuyred
The lace is painted??  I am astonished to hear that.  Do you think it starts 
out as who thread and then the color is added?  Or is the paint just used as a 
stiffener?

> Subject: Re: [lace] Lace art by Agnes Herczeg

> I own one of the pieces shown in the article... the woman with the sheaves
> of grain in the article, as well as another one of a woman looking out a
> window.
> 
> The lace is painted...I think with acrylic paint. 

Liz R, Raleigh, NC, USA

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Re: [lace] Mending fences for 2017 Arachne exchange

2017-09-07 Thread Sue Babbs
Well said, Susan!.  Thanks for putting all that into words.  I cannot work 
out what has really happened here - nor do I really want to - so hope that 
your words will bring peace and reconciliation


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[lace] Beginner Pattern

2017-09-07 Thread Janice Blair
I designed a beginner cat pattern which is on my website. I posted the link on 
Facebook on Bobbin Lace Makers and it has been really appreciated, so I thought 
I would share the link here.  

Go to jblace.com  It is in the Pattern Gallery.  


We have had an influx of new lacemakers at Silvergate Lacers near San Diego 
this summer and I thought it might be nice for them to introduce them to a half 
stitch pattern with a whole stitch edging.  I have so far made 8 and intend to 
use them as bookmark gifts for my knitting group, 4 more to go.  They usually 
take me an evening to make but I am a fast lacemaker.  I tried to use thread 
that was available locally in the US.

Devon, I converted this email to plain text so it should arrive looking normal. 
Your reposting of Jeri's email included lots of uppercase 'A's in the digest 
form. It is hard to remember to do it every time though.

Janice 
Janice Blair Murrieta, CA, 
jblace.com

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[lace] Mending fences for 2017 Arachne exchange

2017-09-07 Thread Susan
Arachne is such a caring, sharing group, I am totally gobsmacked.  Please, 
let's not allow hurt feelings to divide us or derail our holiday exchange.  We 
are so lucky to have several cheerful, willing & capable volunteers who want to 
make our exchange a success.  Most groups can't find volunteers at all!  
Discord is corrosive & my worst fear is that Arachne members might choose sides 
& the exchange could implode.  Volunteers--can you put aside your differences & 
work together?  Will you work together in the spirit of the holiday season?  
Each of you brings unique abilities & pooling your efforts lightens the load on 
any one individual.  We have an opportunity for the sum of the parts to be 
greater than the whole.  In lace friendship...   Sincerely, Susan Hottle USA 

Sent from my iPad

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Re: [lace] Lace art by Agnes Herczeg

2017-09-07 Thread Witchy Woman
Subject: Re: [lace] Lace art by Agnes Herczeg

>What lovely pieces!  Do you think she uses some kind of stiffening?
>Liz, Raleigh, NC, USA

I own one of the pieces shown in the article... the woman with the sheaves
of grain in the article, as well as another one of a woman looking out a
window.

The lace is painted...I think with acrylic paint.  There used to be an
interview with her where it showed her lace in the various stages.  Tried to
find it, but the link to it doesn't work anymore.

I love her work!  Saving up for another piece, but they go fast these days.
She's getting too popular.  ;  )

Peg
In chilly, rainy Cleveland Heights, Ohio

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RE: [lace] belgian color code cttct

2017-09-07 Thread jo
For technical reasons I just need a color, without annotations like circles
or cross marks.

In the mean time I remembered some pages on Pinterest. One page of Ulrike's
book on Torchon uses brown for ctt.
There is also a spiral bound book "Jolanda's vogels" (birds) she uses also
brown but for cttctt.

So I'll stick to brown.

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RE: [lace] belgian color code cttct

2017-09-07 Thread jo
For technical reasons I just need a color, without annotations like circles
or cross marks.

In the mean time I remembered some pages on Pinterest. One page of Ulrike's
book on Torchon uses brown for ctt.
There is also a spiral bound book "Jolanda's vogels" (birds) she uses also
brown but for cttctt.

So I'll stick to brown.

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Re: [lace] Reposting Jeri's email on Levey

2017-09-07 Thread Sue Babbs

Aha! Well done Devon!! Glad to be back in communication with you easily!

Sue 


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Re: [lace] Reposting Jeri's email on Levey

2017-09-07 Thread Devon
There is no mystery about why my emails are getting through. I bit the bullet 
and got a Gmail account which I use exclusively for Arachne.
Devon

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Re: [lace] belgian color code cttct

2017-09-07 Thread Bev Walker
Isn't it a little black circle at the turning part?

On Thu, Sep 7, 2017 at 9:37 AM, N.A. Neff  wrote:

> Good question.  Might it be a green intersection (half stitch), little
> hatch mark for another twist, then another green intersection (halfstitch)?
>
> >
> > What is the Belgian color code for the turning stitch: cttct?
> >
>

-- 
Bev in Shirley BC, near Sooke on beautiful Vancouver Island, west coast of
Canada

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Re: [lace] Reposting Jeri's email on Levey

2017-09-07 Thread Ruth Lyon
I agree with Bev.  I don't get the messages from AOL and Yahoo, but as far
as I know, everyone can get gmail messages. It's easy to sign up with gmail
and it's free.  If you have been storing Arachne messages in a mailbox at
another email address, on AOL for example, you can always forward messages
from gmail to your other email address.  I do that frequently.

My gmail address came with my first cell phone, and I mainly use it for
Arachne.  My husband is happy that all the Arachne messages no longer come
to our regular email.

Just a friendly suggestion.

Ruth Lyon
in cool, sunny Iowa where the leaves are already starting to change


On Thu, Sep 7, 2017 at 10:57 AM, Bev Walker  wrote:

> Yes, and that's why the advice about the gmail addy.
> (just sayin' as the expression goes)
>
> On Thu, Sep 7, 2017 at 8:52 AM, Sue Babbs  wrote:
>
> > Yes they do appear in the archive, but if I don't receive the original
> > message from Jeri I don't know one has been sent, so I don't know to go
> to
> > the archive to look for it!  When  someone replies to Jeri online, then I
> > know to go to the archives.  A frustrating necessity!
> >
> >
> --
> Bev in Shirley BC, near Sooke on beautiful Vancouver Island, west coast of
> Canada
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Re: [lace] belgian color code cttct

2017-09-07 Thread N.A. Neff
Good question.  Might it be a green intersection (half stitch), little
hatch mark for another twist, then another green intersection (halfstitch)?
If there's no pin in the center of all that, it would pull up into a
turning stitch, so the diagram would be right for the thread movements.

Nancy
usually in Connecticut US, but right now in Herculaneum (Ercolano) Italy,
just outside of Naples.

On Thu, Sep 7, 2017 at 12:17 PM, jo  wrote:

> Dear spiders
>
> What is the Belgian color code for the turning stitch: cttct?
>
> Jo
>
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Re: [lace] Reposting Jeri's email on Levey

2017-09-07 Thread Jeriames
Dear Bev and Sue,   
 
In July, I had a lace maker with great computer technical experience as a  
guest here for a week.  It seemed like an ideal time to perhaps set up a  
gmail account.  She is subscribed to Arachne, and knows the history of my  
problems.  She looked at all my AOL files and how I maintain them, and  
suggested I keep everything the way it is.
 
Please do not think I am not constantly thinking about this.  Talking  to 
AOL technicians in Eastern Europe and the Far East does not help, as they  
never report my anger and requests for a correction to higher ups at  AOL.  I 
do not know if gmail higher ups would take corrective action from  their end.
 
I am sending a special version, that is easier to read because it uses bold 
 type and italics to Bev and Sue.  If others would like the more  
professional-looking memo of Santina M. Levey's Books - for Researchers, please 
 
write directly to me and you will receive if I receive your mails.   It will 
definitely be nicer than the versions in the Arachne  Archives.
 
Jeri Ames in Maine USA
Lace and Embroidery Resource Center

 
In a message dated 9/7/2017 11:57:11 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
walker.b...@gmail.com writes:

Yes, and that's why the advice about the gmail addy.  
(just sayin' as the expression goes)

On Thu, Sep 7, 2017 at 8:52 AM, Sue Babbs <_suebabbs385@gmail.com_ 
(mailto:suebabbs...@gmail.com) > wrote:

Yes  they do appear in the archive, but if I don't receive the original 
message  from Jeri I don't know one has been sent, so I don't know to go to the 
 archive to look for it!  When  someone replies to Jeri online,  then I 
know to go to the archives.  A frustrating  necessity!





-- 
Bev in Shirley BC,  near Sooke on beautiful Vancouver Island, west coast of 
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[lace] belgian color code cttct

2017-09-07 Thread jo
Dear spiders

What is the Belgian color code for the turning stitch: cttct?

Jo

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Re: [lace] Reposting Jeri's email on Levey

2017-09-07 Thread Bev Walker
Yes, and that's why the advice about the gmail addy.
(just sayin' as the expression goes)

On Thu, Sep 7, 2017 at 8:52 AM, Sue Babbs  wrote:

> Yes they do appear in the archive, but if I don't receive the original
> message from Jeri I don't know one has been sent, so I don't know to go to
> the archive to look for it!  When  someone replies to Jeri online, then I
> know to go to the archives.  A frustrating necessity!
>
>
-- 
Bev in Shirley BC, near Sooke on beautiful Vancouver Island, west coast of
Canada

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Re: [lace] Reposting Jeri's email on Levey

2017-09-07 Thread Sue Babbs
Yes they do appear in the archive, but if I don't receive the original 
message from Jeri I don't know one has been sent, so I don't know to go to 
the archive to look for it!  When  someone replies to Jeri online, then I 
know to go to the archives.  A frustrating necessity!


Sue

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Re: [lace] Reposting Jeri's email on Levey

2017-09-07 Thread Bev Walker
Hello Devon and everyone
Jeri's e-mails do show at Lace - The Mail Archive
https://www.mail-archive.com/lace@arachne.com/

and probably always via the lace-digest. So many of us receive the
reflected list (individual messages) that I must say, agreeing with Sue, a
gmail address is better for tech. compatibility than one from aol.

On Thu, Sep 7, 2017 at 4:57 AM, DevonThein  wrote:

> Spiders, forgive me for reposting. But, I did not get the original Jeri
> post
> about Santina Levey and asked her for it.  I wouldn’t have known about it
> if
> Noelene hadn’t referenced it. Thanks, Noelene.
> I think that for the most part my gmail gets through. I am totally
> uncertain
> about how many people receive Jeri’s posts from AOL. Maybe half of the
> list?
>
>

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Re: [lace] 2017 Aravchne Card Exchange

2017-09-07 Thread Liz Roberts
I have to agree with Nancy on this. I was shocked to see the unhappiness rise 
up so suddenly and wonder if it might have been better if it had been resolved 
privately between those upset by it? Rumblings across the list are disruptive 
to the usual kindness and helpfulness I usually see.


While I have not signed up lately due to time constraints, Lin was very 
encouraging and was particularly careful that I receive a bookmark a couple of 
years ago when my partner was unable to finish on time due to family issues. 
Perhaps she has gotten so used to handling the other exchanges, it didn't occur 
to her she might be stepping on toes. 


Since we try to be so careful of where we "cross and twist or twist and cross," 
we might try the same with our interactions. Let's get back to "happy 
lacemaking." :)


Liz Roberts in sunny and mild southwest Missouri



"From an outside perspective, however, I suggest that "hijacked" is a really 
loaded word, and maybe should be
avoided." - Nancy

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Re: [lace] Reposting Jeri's email on Levey

2017-09-07 Thread Sue Babbs
It is strange that I get Devon's email to the list but not Jeri's.  I don't 
understand why some aol posts work and others don't.  They don't even arrive 
in the spam box, but are just completely missing.


With the ease of getting a gmail address these days, I wonder if that would 
help you both (even if you only used it to subscribe to Arachne!)  We'd 
certainly like to see both your posts


Sue

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[lace] Reposting Jeri's email on Levey

2017-09-07 Thread DevonThein
Spiders, forgive me for reposting. But, I did not get the original Jeri post
about Santina Levey and asked her for it.  I wouldn’t have known about it if
Noelene hadn’t referenced it. Thanks, Noelene.
I think that for the most part my gmail gets through. I am totally uncertain
about how many people receive Jeri’s posts from AOL. Maybe half of the list?
So, since it is full of information, I thought I should repost.
Thanks Jeri, for the effort to compile this.

September 5, 2017
 
Santina M. Levey's Books - for Researchers 
By Jeri Ames  
 
If you own any books by Santina Levey, please print this and then place it in
your Levey books for future use.
 
People holding professional positions at the highest level at museums around
the world will mourn the loss of Santina Levey.  One textile expert at a
well-known American museum has written to me:
 
"I will never forget her taking part in a session I organized for museums in
south-eastern England on the identification of lace.  She sat at the end of
the table, and people brought things from their collections for her to
identify which she did with ease, grace, and aplomb!  What an amazing
scholar and such a wonderful woman."
 
My memory:  In 1982, Santina Levey came to New York for a
professional reason, and spoke at the October 16th meeting of the (now
defunct) Lace Guild of New York on the topic: Rise and Fall of the Lace
Industry, 1760-1914. This was just before her famous 1983 LACE book was
published.  This Guild was held together for a while by members who worked
with laces at the Metropolitan Museum, Museum of the City of New York,
Cooper-Hewitt branch of The Smithsonian, Brooklyn Museum, and various smaller
museums that had ethnic collections of costumes.  It disbanded when there
were no volunteers willing to serve as officers. 
 
What is shared below is the list of books authored in whole or in part by
Santina Levey that are on the shelves of my private library, because some of
you may not know of them.  I have called some books to the attention of
visiting lace scholars who had no idea of the scope of her research about
other historic textiles.  Some people may want to learn more after reading
this list, and searches on the internet will yield useful information.  To
read these books: Try InterLibrary Loan at your local or university
library.
 
1. Discovering Embroidery of the 19th Century (64-page paperback)
0-85263-398-X, 1971/77/83. Number 99 in Discovering series by Shire. Divided
into sections - 1. Techniques, 2. Embroidered Objects, 3. Individual Groups
and Individuals. 
 
2. Elizabethan Treasures - The Hardwick Hall Textiles (112-page
hardback) 0-8109-6353-1, 1998. First pub. by National Trust; distributed in
North America by Abrams. 5 Chapters plus reference information about 16th and
17th C. textiles.
 
3. Embroideries at Hardwick Hall - a Catalogue (400-page hardback)
978-1-905400-51-5, 2007. National Trust. Divided into sections - 1.
Embroidery, 2. Needlework, 3. Wrought Linen, 4. Turkey-work.
 
4. Lace: A History - a large Art Book (140-pages of text plus a depth of 1"
of pages of 500 photographs without page numbers) 0-901286-15-X,
1983. Victoria and Albert. Considered worldwide the go-to book for lace
identification, this book contains 10 chapters devoted to lace origins in the
1500's and history up to 1914.
 
5. LePompe, 1559 - Patterns for Venetian Bobbin Lace. Co-author: Patricia C.
Payne. (128-page paperback) 0-903585-16-2, 1983. Pub. by Ruth Bean. 
Historical background  and instructions for making the earliest known set of
bobbin lace patterns. This is a reprint of original 1559 book, for today's
lace makers. 
 
6. Of Household Stuff - The 1601 Inventories of Bess of Hardwick. Co-author:
Peter Thornton. (71-page paperback) 0-7078-0329-2, 2001. National
Trust. Contents of each of the Countess of Shrewsbury's homes exceeded in
value each home's worth. She lived from about 1527-1608; her life
paralleled that of Queen Elizabeth I (1533-1603).
 
7. Finishing Touch - Lace in Portraits at Frederiksborg.  Co-author: Patricia
Wardle. (76-page paperback) 87-87237-59-8, 1994. Frederiksborg Museum,
Denmark. 16th to early 19th C. history of Museum-owned portraits of lace
worn by kings, nobles, courtiers, landowners, ministers, public servants and
their wives and daughters.
 
8. Queen Victoria's Wedding Dress and Lace. By Kay Staniland and Santina M.
Levey. (32-page article reprinted from COSTUME in paperback format), Journal
of the Costume Society (17:1983). No ISBN. Museum of London. 
 
What a legacy!  Consulting the internet and bibliographies of these books
reveals more books, articles, and anthology entries by Santina M. Levey, or
written in partnership with other scholars with whom she worked.  If you know
details about them, please write to us, so we can add to this listing in a
timely manner.
 
An obituary from The Times, London,Â

[lace] Santina

2017-09-07 Thread Alex Stillwell
Dear Arachnids

I met Santina several times, she was a lovely and generous lady. She helped me
when I was writing my Bucks books by offering to date the samples I was
studying. Some of the replies she gave to comments I made about some that
puzzled me, and her suspicion that there were other dates at which techniques
had changed, led me to research the very fine and, ultimately, follow the idea
that Mechlin had been made in England. Unfortunately, by the time I was sure
of my facts she was already too ill.

The lace world is now poorer.  She is a great loss to us all.

Alex

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Re: [lace] 2017 Aravchne Card Exchange

2017-09-07 Thread Jacqui Southworth

I agree Nancy and hope so too.

ttfn Jacqui


On 07/09/2017 07:55, N.A. Neff wrote:

Dear fellow spiders,

I haven't, nor am I signed up to participate in the card exchange, so I
don't have a horse in this race. From an outside perspective, however, I
suggest that "hijacked" is a really loaded word, and maybe should be
avoided.

There's probably been some extensive confusion rather than malice at the
root of the problem. I've been impressed by the kindness and goodwill
universally shown by the participants on Arachne, and would be really sorry
to see some confusion and misunderstanding cause unhappiness and discord
among us.

I hope this perspective helps. Maybe there could be some (civil, please!)
emails among the three people most involved to sort this out?

Blessings on you all,

Nancy
usually in Connecticut US, but gallivanting right now.

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Re: [lace] 2017 Aravchne Card Exchange

2017-09-07 Thread N.A. Neff
Dear fellow spiders,

I haven't, nor am I signed up to participate in the card exchange, so I
don't have a horse in this race. From an outside perspective, however, I
suggest that "hijacked" is a really loaded word, and maybe should be
avoided.

There's probably been some extensive confusion rather than malice at the
root of the problem. I've been impressed by the kindness and goodwill
universally shown by the participants on Arachne, and would be really sorry
to see some confusion and misunderstanding cause unhappiness and discord
among us.

I hope this perspective helps. Maybe there could be some (civil, please!)
emails among the three people most involved to sort this out?

Blessings on you all,

Nancy
usually in Connecticut US, but gallivanting right now.

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