Re: [lace] 1931 lace making clip
Wonderful film clip! Thank you Sue for sharing it!. So after another 20 years, maybe I can make tallies with one hand? Maybe I could start with just making braids. http://youtu.be/IwcSaAXtZsc Beth McCasland in cloudy cool Seattle, Washington, USA - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] 1931 lace making clip
Thanks for sharing, Sue! This is a very well-known Beds pattern; I’ve seen it, or a close cousin, in several books. I think since it is British Pathe that made the film, it is set in Britain, so that’s another vote for Beds. The film is probably part of a whole series of films Pathe made around the same time, called something like the Crafts of Britain. Somewhere on the Internet they have put up all of these films - I watched one lovely one on spinning and weaving. But I can’t remember just where I found them. Adele West Vancouver, BC (west coast of Canada) On May 25, 2015, at 9:02 AM, Bespokethreadsandyarns bespokethreadsandya...@gmail.com wrote: Shared this on facebook. A British Pathe silent black and white clip of bobbin lace. Single handed! On facebook we had several say Lace type is Beds but one said Cluny. What do you all think? Sue http://youtu.be/IwcSaAXtZsc - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] 1931 lace making clip
I am sure it is Bedfordshire, because of the pattern, the pillow ( an East Midlands bolster) and because of the bobbins which are Bedfordshire thumpers. Kathleen In a dull but unfortunately still dry ( for the gardens) Berkshire. Sent from my iPad On 25 May 2015, at 17:02, Bespokethreadsandyarns bespokethreadsandya...@gmail.com wrote: Shared this on facebook. A British Pathe silent black and white clip of bobbin lace. Single handed! On facebook we had several say Lace type is Beds but one said Cluny. What do you all think? Sue http://youtu.be/IwcSaAXtZsc - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/ - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
[lace] 1931 lace making clip
Shared this on facebook. A British Pathe silent black and white clip of bobbin lace. Single handed! On facebook we had several say Lace type is Beds but one said Cluny. What do you all think? Sue http://youtu.be/IwcSaAXtZsc - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] 1931 lace making clip
At 1.50mins quite clearly Beds, and unspangled Midlands style bobbins too. Did you notice how much she was doing one handed at 37/38 seconds, more than just twisting, she was doing the tiny bit of plait between picots with her left hand so the other hand was free to get the pin for the next picot Love the insistent child, wants to be centre frame; what a lovely grin. Jacquie in Lincolnshire - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] 1931 lace making clip
Imagine my surprise when I watched the clip and saw the exact edging I am currently working on. The pattern was published in Geraldine Stott's Bobbin Lace Manual, page84. It is called Running River. She says, this old Bedfordshire pattern is meant to represent the meandering River Ouse at Bedford, with the many water lilies that lie on the river there. I did not learn to make bobbin lace until I was in my 60's. Needless to say, I envy the speed with which the lady is working. And one handed? Oh,my. An article in Lace magazine from the 1970's said local lace makers believed a person could not learn properly after the age of 4. Jean Reardon, Mercer PA Where the sun and clouds are competing for preeminence, but at least it is warm - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
[lace] 1931 lace making clip
It’s a fascinating film clip. The pattern she’s making is in Geraldine Stott’s Bobbin Lace Manual where she says “ This old Bedfordshire pattern is meant to represent the meandering River Ouse at Bedford , with the many waterlilies that lie on the river there.” It also appears in Pamela Nottingham’s Technique of Bobbin Lace (original edition) where it is called Bedfordshire spider pattern. In both of them half stitch is used for the ‘spider/waterlily’ while I think the film shows cloth stitch. Jean in Glasgow where we’ve had a sunny Bank Holiday Monday - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] 1931 lace making clip
The lighter coloured pillow was on the table with the lady winding bobbins so presumably the other worker was her. The pattern/s though called Bedfordshire lace were made in all the East Midlands counties. The pillow/s and bobbins are typically the types used is South Buckinghamshire. Also in that area it was normal for worker not to use a pillow stand/horse and work like continental lacemakers - with one hand moving the bobbins the other pinning up. Diana in Northamptonshire Sent from Diana's iPad On 25 May 2015, at 19:33, Kathleen Harris ec...@cix.co.uk wrote: Yes, there are two pieces of lace being made, and, presumably, two lace makers. The patterns are similar, but one has tallies and one doesn't, and it is the different pillow covers which give the game away, as well as the fact that one lace maker puts her pins in more tidily than the other! Kathleen In Berkshire, UK Sent from my iPad On 25 May 2015, at 19:09, dmt11h...@aol.com wrote: Oops. The piece with the tallies has the 5 nine-pin motifs per scallop. In a message dated 5/25/2015 2:07:45 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, dmt11h...@aol.com writes: Am I the only person who sees two different, although similar, pieces of lace being made in this clip. One of them has tallies, and 3 nine-pin edging things on each head side scallop and is made on a pillow with a strong strip pattern. The other has 5 nine-pin edging things on each scallop and no tallies that I can see, and the pillow is light colored. Devon - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/ - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/ - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] 1931 lace making clip
Yes, there are two pieces of lace being made, and, presumably, two lace makers. The patterns are similar, but one has tallies and one doesn't, and it is the different pillow covers which give the game away, as well as the fact that one lace maker puts her pins in more tidily than the other! Kathleen In Berkshire, UK Sent from my iPad On 25 May 2015, at 19:09, dmt11h...@aol.com wrote: Oops. The piece with the tallies has the 5 nine-pin motifs per scallop. In a message dated 5/25/2015 2:07:45 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, dmt11h...@aol.com writes: Am I the only person who sees two different, although similar, pieces of lace being made in this clip. One of them has tallies, and 3 nine-pin edging things on each head side scallop and is made on a pillow with a strong strip pattern. The other has 5 nine-pin edging things on each scallop and no tallies that I can see, and the pillow is light colored. Devon - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/ - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] 1931 lace making clip
Oops. The piece with the tallies has the 5 nine-pin motifs per scallop. In a message dated 5/25/2015 2:07:45 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, dmt11h...@aol.com writes: Am I the only person who sees two different, although similar, pieces of lace being made in this clip. One of them has tallies, and 3 nine-pin edging things on each head side scallop and is made on a pillow with a strong strip pattern. The other has 5 nine-pin edging things on each scallop and no tallies that I can see, and the pillow is light colored. Devon - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] 1931 lace making clip
Am I the only person who sees two different, although similar, pieces of lace being made in this clip. One of them has tallies, and 3 nine-pin edging things on each head side scallop and is made on a pillow with a strong strip pattern. The other has 5 nine-pin edging things on each scallop and no tallies that I can see, and the pillow is light colored. Devon - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] 1931 lace making clip
Yes, two different patterns on different pillows, but both were using South Bucks thumper bobbins and both had the footsie on the right, so English, therefore Bedsrather than Cluny. At the end it said 40 yards of lace requires for a âshadeâ followed by a clip of a parasol covered with some form of guipure/all over lace; probably machine made! http://youtu.be/IwcSaAXtZsc http://youtu.be/IwcSaAXtZsc Brenda in Allhallows paternos...@appleshack.com www.brendapaternoster.co.uk - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Subject: [lace] 1931 lace making clip
I noticed I the difference in the pricking background colors and the pillow covers but did not notice the different bobbins.  Funny what we see when not looking closely. Sue, you mentioned discussing this on Facebook.  Which group are you on because I did not see the conversation on Bobbin Lace Makers.Janice Shared this on facebook. A British Pathe silent black and white clip of bobbin lace. Single handed! On facebook we had several say Lace type is Beds but one said Cluny. What do you all think? Sue http://youtu.be/IwcSaAXtZsc  Janice Blair Murrieta, CA, 60 miles north of San Diego www.jblace.com www.lacemakersofillinois.org - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Subject: [lace] 1931 lace making clip
I spotted the difference of the pricking paper color first and then checked the pillows.  I didn't notice the different bobbins though. Sue, you mentioned chat about it on Facebook, which group do you belong to?  I did not see this conversation on Bobbin Lace Makers.Janice Shared this on facebook. A British Pathe silent black and white clip of bobbin lace. Single handed! On facebook we had several say Lace type is Beds but one said Cluny. What do you all think? Sue http://youtu.be/IwcSaAXtZsc  Janice Blair Murrieta, CA, 60 miles north of San Diego www.jblace.com www.lacemakersofillinois.org - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
