Re: [lace] The whys & wherefores of using temporary pins in Binche

2018-09-07 Thread Adele Shaak
Hi Susan:

Normally I don’t use support pins in Binche; I have learned tensioning methods 
that work well for me. Of course, when I am in a class taught by a support pin 
fanatic, I use them. Life is easier that way.

Here’s the thing - if I understand your description, you’re cloth-stitching 
across a row inside a motif, at the end you drop the weaver, take the next pair 
to it and cloth stitch back across the row. When you get to the end, tensioning 
that row pulls against the first weaver, pulls it away from the edge of the 
motif, and creates a hole. That does not happen if, while you tension, you hold 
down that first weaver. The two pairs pull against one another and the tension 
is nice and even. Now, it does round off the corner of the row a little bit, 
but you’re not looking for a 90 degree angle anyway; you want a nice, rounded, 
filled motif. 

One of the fun things about these types of laces is that you will often make 2 
or 3 rows before there’s a pinhole. Yes, it does work! You can make 3 rows, put 
up a pin, and use that to tension all 3 rows. I find that satisfying and 
exhilarating, but don’t do it in a class where you’re expected to put in 
support pins; the teacher will get really excited, and not in a good way.

I think the secret when you learn these laces is: 1. Don’t obsess; it will take 
the joy out of your lacemaking. Tension as best you can and then move on. and 
2. Get lots of practice. Many lacemakers just make a few short samples and call 
it a day. Pick a pattern and make a couple of feet of it; long enough for you 
to go through the pattern many times, and then you’ll be much more comfortable 
with the process.

Hope this helps.

Adele
West Vancouver, BC
(west coast of Canada)

> 
> Hello All! I am working a small beginner sampler & the weaver changes every 
> other row. Since I do not know what I am doing (!!), this has lead to small 
> holes in the slanted edge of the cloth work. While I suspect this is a 
> tension issue that I must overcome, should I use a support pin at that point 
> to help keep the newly discarded “weaver turned passive” in place? Remove it 
> after a few rows? Temporary pins can create holes too so maybe this is a case 
> of a double edged sword. I am using the most delicious color of pale pink 
> Aurifil 50 so I would like to make decent lace. Suggestions are welcome. Many 
> thanks. 

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[lace] The whys & wherefores of using temporary pins in Binche

2018-09-06 Thread Anita Hansen
Susan,

Count me among those that happily use support pins in Binche!  I discovered
this trick in one of Ulrike's books and it has been wonderful.  I am a
tension-er, always tugging and pulling on my threads.  I usually use my
regular fine pins, not necessarily the really fine insect pins, but it depends
on my mood.  I think any holes left by pins will be much less unsightly than
threads pulled out of place!  I also leave those pins in the work as long as
the others.  Then when the lace is done and all the threads snipped I go
around the cloth stitch areas with glass head pin and gently "scratch" the
threads next to any holes to close them up.  Usually you can't even tell a pin
was there!

Enjoy your Binche adventure!

Anita Hanse

in soggy Cedar Rapids, Iowa

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Re: [lace] The whys & wherefores of using temporary pins in Binche

2018-09-06 Thread Lbuyred
Susan,
I stared making Binche with a traditional teacher who did not believe in using 
support pins.  So she showed me all the tricks to avoid the holes.  That being 
said, I now use support pins all the time.  I use the very small pins.  I find 
that even if I don't take them out until the very end I don't have a hole.  
Once the piece is finished no one can tell it you used support pins or not!
Liz R, Raleigh, NC

> On Sep 6, 2018, at 1:14 PM, Susan  wrote:
> 
> Hello All! I am working a small beginner sampler & the weaver changes every 
> other row. Since I do not know what I am doing (!!), this has lead to small 
> holes in the slanted edge of the cloth work. While I suspect this is a 
> tension issue that I must overcome, should I use a support pin at that point 
> to help keep the newly discarded “weaver turned passive” in place? Remove it 
> after a few rows? Temporary pins can create holes too so maybe this is a case 
> of a double edged sword. I am using the most delicious color of pale pink 
> Aurifil 50 so I would like to make decent lace. Suggestions are welcome. Many 
> thanks. Sincerely, Susan Hottle USA 
> 
> Sent from my iPad
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Re: [lace] The whys & wherefores of using temporary pins in Binche

2018-09-06 Thread Marianne Gallant
Hi Susan,

I started doing Binche a few months ago and ran into the same problem as 
you. Then I saw Nancy posting on Facebook that she had started using 
support pins when she was doing some of the early Binche lace and also 
started having holes appear. I have started using support pins in 
Binche, and it makes a huge difference. I use size 0 insect pins for 
support pins, since they are very fine, and it seems to make no 
difference when you take them out, I leave them in for quite a while, 
cause you never know when the next time you do something with those 
pairs you might end up pulling them out of position again. I use a 
support pin any time there appears a 'triangle' in the diagram when 
either pairs are taken into the cloth or taken out, which means that 
sometimes I have a support pin on both sides of a regular pin, specially 
if that regular pin does not support either of the 'workers turned 
passives' or 'passives turned workers', which sometimes happens when the 
regular pin is more to separate 2 pairs of passives to indicate a 
differentiation between parts of cloth work, and pairs are taken out and 
in just outside of those passives.
Just because they didn't use support pins in the old days, does not mean 
we can't use them now, we are no longer in a big hurry to make as much 
lace as fast as possible.

*Marianne*

Marianne Gallant
Vernon, BC Canada
m...@shaw.ca
http://threadsnminis.blogspot.ca, https://www.facebook.com/GallantCreation/

On 2018-09-06 10:14 a.m., Susan wrote:
> Hello All! I am working a small beginner sampler & the weaver changes every 
> other row. Since I do not know what I am doing (!!), this has lead to small 
> holes in the slanted edge of the cloth work. While I suspect this is a 
> tension issue that I must overcome, should I use a support pin at that point 
> to help keep the newly discarded “weaver turned passive” in place? Remove 
> it after a few rows? Temporary pins can create holes too so maybe this is a 
> case of a double edged sword. I am using the most delicious color of pale 
> pink Aurifil 50 so I would like to make decent lace. Suggestions are welcome. 
> Many thanks. Sincerely, Susan Hottle USA
>

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Re: [lace] The whys & wherefores of using temporary pins in Binche

2018-09-06 Thread N.A. Neff
Hi Susan,

Ulrike's rule is to use a support pin where it helps! If you use very fine
insect pins, and remove them after a few rows, they won't leave a hole.

"Fine" means size 00 or 000. Van Sciver Bobbin Lace carries them, or it may
be faster and less expensive shipping from Amazon, unless you are
philosophically opposed to Amazon:
https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B014MTBYUY/ref=nav_timeline_asin?_encoding=UTF8
sc=1
or
https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B078NBMHN2/  or
https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B074DBRHYC  or
https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B07CCJ922P/ref=sspa_dk_detail_0?psc=1  or
https://smile.amazon.com/Black-Enamel-Insect-Pin-000/dp/B01H0NHA5W

etc. :-)

Cheers,

Nancy
Connecticut, USA


On Thu, Sep 6, 2018 at 1:14 PM, Susan  wrote:

> ...should I use a support pin at that point to help keep the newly
> discarded “weaver turned passive” in place? ...
>

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[lace] The whys & wherefores of using temporary pins in Binche

2018-09-06 Thread Susan
Hello All! I am working a small beginner sampler & the weaver changes every 
other row. Since I do not know what I am doing (!!), this has lead to small 
holes in the slanted edge of the cloth work. While I suspect this is a tension 
issue that I must overcome, should I use a support pin at that point to help 
keep the newly discarded “weaver turned passive” in place? Remove it after a 
few rows? Temporary pins can create holes too so maybe this is a case of a 
double edged sword. I am using the most delicious color of pale pink Aurifil 50 
so I would like to make decent lace. Suggestions are welcome. Many thanks. 
Sincerely, Susan Hottle USA 

Sent from my iPad

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