[lace] machine/handmade lace

2012-08-14 Thread Jean Nathan
Devon wrote: The three Rs are Reading, Riting and Rithmetic (Reading, Writing and Arithmetic) at least in the US. It is a bit of a joke because only an uneducated person would think that each of the words started with an R. It's alliteration - each word starting with the same sound; sound

[lace] machine/handmade lace

2012-08-14 Thread Peter and Kathleen Harris
I would think that the worst of the poverty happened at the period when machine made lace was taking over from most of the hand made lace, so that the lace workers were paid very little for a skill no longer of value to most people. The lace dealers must have gone out of business too. The

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2012-08-14 Thread Dmt11home
I was also wondering if the poverty of lacemakers varied according to the period. For instance, I think that I have read that during the Napoleanic Wars, English lacemaking had a very profitable period because of the embargo on items from the continent. However, afterward, when there was

Re: [lace] machine/handmade lace 3 R's

2012-08-14 Thread lynrbailey
Dear all, I thought it might come from the song, School days, school days, written in 1907 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/School_Days_%281907_song%29 but evidently it comes from more exalted places: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_three_Rs I am glad the children eventually learned more than

Re: [lace] machine/handmade lace 3 R's

2012-08-14 Thread Dmt11home
I am reading a book, Cinque secoli di merletti europei, I Capolavori, in which there is a discussion about French lacemaking in which it makes the claim that the French Parliament saw the demise of the French lace industry as a result of compulsory education. p. 212. Speaking of the French

[lace] machine/handmade lace 3 R's

2012-08-14 Thread Jane Partridge
This reminds me of a conversation I had with the proprietor of the shop where I used to buy my daughters' school uniforms. Her family was from India, and she herself had been to university and gained a degree in Art. However, she said that the consequence of the girls being able to be educated

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2012-08-14 Thread Diana Smith
  OK there were very few job opportunities for girls in the 18/19th centuries. If I had to choose between lace making which was clean, light, work at home with hours to suit. Against working long hours away from home scrubbing, cleaning, cooking, washing for someone else for little return or

[lace] machine/handmade lace

2012-08-14 Thread Jane Partridge
Another thought is that lacemakers began learning their trade at about 4 or 5 years of age - they did as their parents (or workhouse master) told them to. By the time they were of an age to go into service, usually around 10, they would already possibly be contributing to the family income by

[lace] machine/handmade lace

2012-08-13 Thread Jane Partridge
I think you will find that this applies after the passing of the Education Act in the late 19th century (can't recall the exact year but somewhere around 1874 I think) when the Dame Schools by law had to provide some teaching other than just the practicalities of lacemaking - ie the children

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2012-08-13 Thread Diana Smith
In the 19th century 'Lace Schools' were mostly just that - schools for learning to make lace. Usually kept by an elderly lace maker who would have little or no skills in teaching the three R's. Some basics in lettering could probably be achieved but little more. The following is an account by

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2012-08-13 Thread Karen M. Zammit Manduca
Excuse the ignorance, but what are the three Rs? Karen in Malta - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site:

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2012-08-13 Thread Dmt11home
The three Rs are Reading, Riting and Rithmetic (Reading, Writing and Arithmetic) at least in the US. It is a bit of a joke because only an uneducated person would think that each of the words started with an R. Devon _kazaman44@gmail.com_ (mailto:kazama...@gmail.com) writes: Excuse

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2012-08-13 Thread Margery Allcock
...@arachne.com [mailto:owner-l...@arachne.com] On Behalf Of Karen M. Zammit Manduca Sent: Monday, August 13, 2012 9:13 PM To: Diana Smith Cc: Arachne Subject: Re: [lace] machine/handmade lace Excuse the ignorance, but what are the three Rs? Karen in Malta

[lace] machine/handmade lace

2012-08-13 Thread Elizabeth Ligeti
My Great Grandmother was taught to read and write - probably at lace School. However the family thought it was dreadful that her father paid to have her taught to read and write - a total waste of hard earned money, and they almost banned him from the family!! She was the last of the family to