Re: [lace] Finger looping

[Ilske Thomsen]

Speaking about Finger looping don’t forget Margareten Spitze.

Ilske

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Re: [lace] Finger looping

[Cynce Williams]

I don’t know that much about finger-loop braiding. There was a reference in (I
think) Piecework maybe around 2000. Kumihimo books also make reference. I have
a feeling it may be Chinese in origin—done by the monks to make “red tape” to
tie up scrolls and documents.

Cynthia


On Apr 6, 2018, at 2:10 AM, Gilian Dye  wrote:

> I've been puzzled for a while by the prevalence of  finger looping - on the
> face of it is an unlikely technique to have developed. Why decide to put
> loops on your fingers instead of manipulating individual threads? Could
> these braids be a form of plaiting?

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RE: [lace] Finger looping

[J-D Hammett]

Hi fellow Arachnids,



These braids on the indulgences (which were frequently sold by -sometimes
spurious- Pardoners to raise funds for the church), could be finger woven or
card woven. Finger-weaving is a form of plaiting with loops on the fingers
with which one can get different and pretty patterns. With the card- and inkle
loom weaving the warp forms the visible pattern hence the pattern (the
boat-shaped visible bits of the thread at the surface) lays along the length
of the braid as can be seen in the photographs. With a loom woven braid the
pattern lie across the braid.



Happy lace making,



Joepie in East Sussex, UK where spring at last seems to have arrived.








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Subject: Re: [lace] Finger looping

H Bev,
Slentre braid sounds exactly like the 5 loop braid which was the first
finger-looped braid I learned.
 Did you know that by picking up the loop that is transferred from one hand
to the other in different ways - eg by changing whether you catch the top
or the bottom thread of the loop - you can get different shaped braids?

I'm not sure about Slentre Braid being a precursor to bobbin lace but I
would suggest it is the same family.
Agreed a fascinating topin
Gil

On Fri, Apr 6, 2018 at 6:26 PM, Bev Walker <walker.b...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello Gillian and everyone
>
> I am reminded of "Slentre Braid" which is made of 5 doubled threads,
> anchored at one end, looped at the other. Briefly, two fingers of one hand,
> three of the other hook into the loops where a weaving motion  takes place,
> one loop through another. The result is a quickly-made two-faced braid, one
> side looks woven, the other knitted. This isn't like the braid in Devon's
> photo.
> I don't know the term 'finger looping' - perhaps Slentre Braid is an
> example. Or it could be finger weaving.
>
> Could be a precursor to bobbin lace. I don't know.
> The topic is absolutely fascinating!
>
> On Fri, Apr 6, 2018 at 12:10 AM, Gilian Dye <gild...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> I've been puzzled for a while by the prevalence of  finger looping - on
>> the
>> face of it is an unlikely technique to have developed. Why decide to put
>> loops on your fingers instead of manipulating individual threads? Could
>> these braids be a form of plaiting?
>>
>
>
> --
> Bev in Shirley BC, near Sooke on beautiful Vancouver Island, west coast of
> Canada
>

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Re: [lace] Finger looping

[Gilian Dye]

H Bev,
Slentre braid sounds exactly like the 5 loop braid which was the first
finger-looped braid I learned.
 Did you know that by picking up the loop that is transferred from one hand
to the other in different ways - eg by changing whether you catch the top
or the bottom thread of the loop - you can get different shaped braids?

I'm not sure about Slentre Braid being a precursor to bobbin lace but I
would suggest it is the same family.
Agreed a fascinating topin
Gil

On Fri, Apr 6, 2018 at 6:26 PM, Bev Walker  wrote:

> Hello Gillian and everyone
>
> I am reminded of "Slentre Braid" which is made of 5 doubled threads,
> anchored at one end, looped at the other. Briefly, two fingers of one hand,
> three of the other hook into the loops where a weaving motion  takes place,
> one loop through another. The result is a quickly-made two-faced braid, one
> side looks woven, the other knitted. This isn't like the braid in Devon's
> photo.
> I don't know the term 'finger looping' - perhaps Slentre Braid is an
> example. Or it could be finger weaving.
>
> Could be a precursor to bobbin lace. I don't know.
> The topic is absolutely fascinating!
>
> On Fri, Apr 6, 2018 at 12:10 AM, Gilian Dye  wrote:
>
>>
>> I've been puzzled for a while by the prevalence of  finger looping - on
>> the
>> face of it is an unlikely technique to have developed. Why decide to put
>> loops on your fingers instead of manipulating individual threads? Could
>> these braids be a form of plaiting?
>>
>
>
> --
> Bev in Shirley BC, near Sooke on beautiful Vancouver Island, west coast of
> Canada
>

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Re: [lace] Finger looping

[Bev Walker]

Hello Gillian and everyone

I am reminded of "Slentre Braid" which is made of 5 doubled threads,
anchored at one end, looped at the other. Briefly, two fingers of one hand,
three of the other hook into the loops where a weaving motion  takes place,
one loop through another. The result is a quickly-made two-faced braid, one
side looks woven, the other knitted. This isn't like the braid in Devon's
photo.
I don't know the term 'finger looping' - perhaps Slentre Braid is an
example. Or it could be finger weaving.

Could be a precursor to bobbin lace. I don't know.
The topic is absolutely fascinating!

On Fri, Apr 6, 2018 at 12:10 AM, Gilian Dye  wrote:

>
> I've been puzzled for a while by the prevalence of  finger looping - on the
> face of it is an unlikely technique to have developed. Why decide to put
> loops on your fingers instead of manipulating individual threads? Could
> these braids be a form of plaiting?
>


-- 
Bev in Shirley BC, near Sooke on beautiful Vancouver Island, west coast of
Canada

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Re: [lace] Finger looping

[Gilian Dye]

I have had fun playing with simple finger looping in the past, but have not
dabbled in the more complex 'recipes' so I am in no position to say for
sure whether or not those braids are finger looping and the patterns do not
appear in either of the books I have. Jean has done far more finger looping
than I have, but she is away from home at the moment so is not in a
position to look at her samples.

I've been puzzled for a while by the prevalence of  finger looping - on the
face of it is an unlikely technique to have developed. Why decide to put
loops on your fingers instead of manipulating individual threads? Could
these braids be a form of plaiting? (cf Devon's giant plaits introduced a
few years back). We each need another lifetime to experiment with such
things!
Gil


On Fri, Apr 6, 2018 at 4:41 AM, Kim Davis  wrote:

> Gil and Jean, please correct me if you know differently, but I do not
> believe this is loop braiding.  I do not recognize the interlacing or color
> configurations as possible with orthodox braids from this technique.
>
> Kim
>
>
>
>>
>

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Re: [lace] Finger looping

[Kim Davis]

Gil and Jean, please correct me if you know differently, but I do not
believe this is loop braiding.  I do not recognize the interlacing or color
configurations as possible with orthodox braids from this technique.

Kim



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Re: [lace] Finger looping

[Sue Babbs]

I've indulged Devon (grin!) and uploaded her photos to a "Devon Thein - 
Indulgences" album on the Arachne Flickr page


Sue

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