Re: [lace] Ipswich lace

2017-12-09 Thread Sue Babbs
And I bought it when I first heard it was in print. Definitely worth getting. I put it on the demo table at the Chicago Botanic Garden so that I could talk about historical lace in the USA Sue suebabbs...@gmail.com - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line:

Re: [lace] Ipswich lace

2017-12-09 Thread N.A. Neff
I'm not waiting for Christmas, nor do I trust my elves to bring me all the lace books I want. I have this book, among others, on order (and I hope in the mail), and a bunch of CDs on my wish list!! On Sat, Dec 9, 2017 at 3:16 PM, Adele Shaak wrote: > > But honestly, doesn’t

Re: [lace] Ipswich lace

2017-12-09 Thread Adele Shaak
> But, isn’t the lace on the pillow at the Smithsonian, made by the 90 year > old lacemaker in 1860, who had worked lace in the 1780s and 90s in Ipswich, MA > a point ground lace? If I were making lace 70-odd years after I started, I hope I’d be making a different pattern. ;-) But honestly,

Re: [lace] Ipswich lace

2017-12-09 Thread Adele Shaak
I do hope that if I were making lace 70 years from now, I would not be making the same pattern ;-) Adele > On Dec 9, 2017, at 11:19 AM, DevonThein wrote: > > But, isn’t the lace on the pillow at the Smithsonian, made by the 90 year > old lacemaker in 1860, who had worked

[lace] Ipswich lace

2017-12-09 Thread DevonThein
Karen writes: Ipswich Massachusetts lace is NOT a point ground lace. From a distance it might look like it, but as it now has been pointed out, the grounds are Torchon variations and Kat stitch. The only time point ground was used in the 22 samples we have from 1790 is as a filling in a motif.

[lace] Ipswich lace

2017-12-09 Thread Karen Thompson
Maureen, Nancy and others, Ipswich Massachusetts lace is NOT a point ground lace. From a distance it might look like it, but as it now has been pointed out, the grounds are Torchon variations and Kat stitch. The only time point ground was used in the 22 samples we have from 1790 is as a

[lace] Ipswich lace

2017-12-09 Thread Adele Shaak
I have Karen’s book, and the interesting thing is the Ipswich (MA) laces are *not* point ground laces. They look like it, I know, and I made that mistake myself when I first looked only at the pictures, but the samples use Torchon ground, Honeycomb ground, and Kat stitch ground. Adele West

Re: [lace] Ipswich lace

2017-12-09 Thread Adele Shaak
I have Karen’s book, and the interesting thing is the Ipswich (MA) laces are *not* point ground laces. They look like it, I know, and I made that mistake myself when I first looked only at the pictures, but the samples use Torchon ground, Honeycomb ground, and Kat stitch ground. Adele West

Re: [lace] Ipswich lace

2017-12-09 Thread Gon Homburg
Hi Maureen and Nancy, I thought that one of the characteristics of the Ipswich MA lace is the often different angle of the grid in the ground and in the motifs. The angle in the ground is 66° or 52° and in the motifs often 45°. Karen Thompson says the same thing in her book The Lace Samples

Re: [lace] Ipswich lace

2017-12-09 Thread Devon Thein
I suppose you might say that the difference between lace made in Ipswich, MA and that made in Ipswich, England is that the Ipswich, MA handmade lace industry was the only handmade lace industry in the US, and thus quite an anomaly, whereas the Ipswich, England handmade lace industry was one of

RE: [lace] Ipswich lace

2017-12-09 Thread Maureen
Hi Nancy Thank you. I have just googled Ipswich MA lace and it does look very similar to Bucks Point. I think I need to see a book to compare. HI Maureen Beyond the trivial answer (the difference is where they were made), I don't know for sure. The Ipswich MA lace is point ground, but

Re: [lace] Ipswich lace

2017-12-09 Thread N.A. Neff
Hi Maureen, Beyond the trivial answer (the difference is where they were made), I don't know for sure. The Ipswich MA lace is point ground, but narrow and made of black silk, which is unusual in the UK point ground I think. Karen Thompson (or her book) would be the authoritative source to answer

RE: [lace] Ipswich lace

2017-12-09 Thread Maureen
Dear Nancy What is the difference between Ipswich lace UK and Ipswich Massachusetts please? I am sure I should know, or at least know where to look but my main computer often deletes part of an email, no matter who the service provider is. Hi Daphne, Are you thinking Ipswich UK? We haven't

[lace] Ipswich lace pillow

2017-12-09 Thread Ann Humphreys
Thank you Karen. That’s all I wanted to know. Ann UK - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/

Re: [lace] Ipswich Lace pillow

2017-12-08 Thread Adele Shaak
Thanks Karen for posting this URL - I had lost any previous messages that had this link. What fun I had looking at the photos! If you haven’t tried the link yet - they are high definition photos. Click on the photo so that it fills the page, and then you can zoom in so close you can see the

[lace] Ipswich Lace bobbin

2017-12-08 Thread Brian Lemin
Hello again after a long time! Smile. I just would like to let you good folks know that despite many efforts via the USA over the years I do not have a genuine "antique" Ipswich bobbin. A few pictures of such a bobbin would suffice for my purposes, especially showing the "hollow" nature of it,

[lace] Ipswich Lace pillow

2017-12-08 Thread Karen Thompson
Dear Ann, I think two Ipswich, Massachusetts lace pillow entries are mixed here. Jeri wrote about her very interesting pillow under Ipswich style pillow. Under the Bucks Point discussion I gave a link to the one with the tag, which is in the Smithsonian Museum collection in Washington, DC, USA.

Re: [lace] Ipswich lace

2017-12-08 Thread N.A. Neff
Hi Daphne, Are you thinking Ipswich UK? We haven't been clear, but we're talking about lace made in Ipswich Massachusetts. Nancy Connecticut, USA On Fri, Dec 8, 2017 at 5:52 AM, Daphne Martin wrote: > Hello > Nicky Townsend has written a book on this lace. She has done a

[lace] Ipswich lace

2017-12-08 Thread Daphne Martin
Hello Nicky Townsend has written a book on this lace. She has done a brilliant job by showing pictures,diagrams etc. Nicky researched this lace,as can be seen in her book Suffolk Lace. Daphne Norwich Uk. Sent from my IPad - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the

Re: [lace] Ipswich Lace

2013-04-16 Thread Diane Williams
The Whipple House Museum in Ipswich is supposed to have a collection of Ipswich lace.  Unfortunately they don't have any photos on their website that I can find.  It's on my bucket list to visit there some day. http://ipswichmuseum.drupalgardens.com/exhibitions-collections/whipple-house   Diane

Re: [lace] Ipswich Lace

2013-04-16 Thread Jill Hawkins
Some of the members of the New England Lace Group have worked on cataloguing the lace collection at the Ipswich Historical Society and have photographed much of the lace and posted the photos on their Yahoo group site:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Ipswich_Lace/ You will need to join the group to

Re: [lace] Ipswich Lace

2013-04-16 Thread lynrbailey
I visited the Ipswich Museum a couple years ago, and was disappointed. I went without any prior arrangements. There is one bolster pillow, maybe two, some bobbins, a few examples of the lace, some prickings, but very little else. All in one small case. I believe some people from the local

Re: [lace] Ipswich Lace

2013-04-16 Thread Diane Williams
Thanks for the reminder Jill.  I'm a member of this Yahoo group and I remember that they posted MANY photos of the lace collections.  The laces though are not all Ipswich-made.  I wonder if Shell, the original poster, is interested in the Ipswich-made laces from the late 18th-century or all the

Re: [lace] Ipswich Lace

2013-04-16 Thread Jill Hawkins
You do need to make special arrangements to see what is in the archived collection - which is substantial, by the way, although it is not all Ipswich lace. The New England Lace Group made a field trip a couple of years' ago and were rewarded with a splendid display. If you know you're going to

Re: [lace] Ipswich Lace

2013-04-16 Thread Jeriames
Oh! The stories to tell! Two Maine lace makers went down to the Whipple House (Colonial Period historic property owned by the Ipswich Historical Society) to view lace years ago. The curator was contacted in advance, so we were expected. We were shown to an upper room, where short cuts

Re: [lace] Ipswich Lace

2013-04-16 Thread Ilske Thomsen
Shell, together with some American ladies I helped the Ipswich Museum to identify the laces from Ipswich Museum. I am sure you could find them in internet. Ilske - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to

[lace] Ipswich lace

2013-04-16 Thread Karen Thompson
Shell and others, Since I subscribe to the digest, I just saw the posts about Ipswich. I think your question has been answered well by other members. Marta Cotterells book Ipswich Laces is the most comprehensive. The black silk Ipswich laces from 1789-90 are some of the best documented early

[lace] Ipswich Lace

2013-04-15 Thread Shell
I have tried in vain to find a photo or much information about this lace. I only found the one article online by Jeri Ames about this. But so far no photos, images, or prickings. Am I missing it? -- Smile! Shell Go confidently in the direction of your dreams. Live the life you have

Re: [lace] Ipswich Lace

2013-04-15 Thread John Mead
Shell- I just searched the archive under Ipswich, and on the second page there's a link to materials held at the Library of Congress. http://www.loc.gov/exhibits/treasures/trm157.html; there were other posts that looked of interest, concerning a museum near Ipswich, etc., so I'd say an archive

[lace] Ipswich Lace

2013-04-15 Thread d2oneill
And, of course, the book The Laces of Ipswich by Marta Cotterell Raffel. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/

[lace] Ipswich Lace- location of examples

2010-08-27 Thread Dmt11home
I have received an inquiry from a man who would like to see examples of Ipswich lace, preferably in the geographical area of Ipswich. I have Marta Cotterall's book and from that, it would seem that the best examples are actually in Washington, DC. How easy it is to access any of these, I do

Re: [lace] Ipswich Lace- location of examples

2010-08-27 Thread Vicki Bradford
Hi Devon, There is (or at least was) a small amount of Ipswich lace on display in the Whipple House in Ipswich, Mass. I visited there about ten years ago and found the house full of other interesting things as well, and it is well worth visiting. Of course you are right that our group has

Re: [lace] Ipswich Lace- location of examples

2010-08-27 Thread lynrbailey
, just that they have it. Lyn in Lancaster, Pennsylvania, where it's cool, and sunny, with no rain for quite a while. Indian Summer come early. -Original Message- From: Vicki Bradford twohappyb...@aol.com Sent: Aug 27, 2010 4:52 PM To: lace@arachne.com Subject: Re: [lace] Ipswich

Re: [lace] Ipswich Lace- location of examples

2010-08-27 Thread colonialartist
Subject: Re: [lace] Ipswich Lace- location of examples Hi Devon, There is (or at least was) a small amount of Ipswich lace on display in the Whipple House in Ipswich, Mass. I visited there about ten years ago and found the house full of other interesting things as well, and it is well worth

Re: [lace] Ipswich Lace- location of examples

2010-08-27 Thread Vicki Bradford
That lecture was given by Marta Cotterell Raffel, author of The Laces of Ipswich. Vicki -Original Message- Sent: Fri, Aug 27, 2010 7:39 pm Subject: Re: [lace] Ipswich Lace- location of examples The last time the IOLI convention was at Bathesda someone did a lecture on the history

[lace] Ipswich lace request

2009-05-14 Thread Elise and Scott Hays
Thanks to all who responded to my question regarding prickings. I was glad to hear that 6 patterns were in the book I have ordered. I expect it to arrive today or tomorrow and I am looking forward to reading it! Thanks again, Elise - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing

Re: [lace] Ipswich lace prickings

2009-05-13 Thread Jeriames
Dear Arachnids, Elise lives near me. I'm able to take care of her questions. Jeri Ames Lace and Embroidery Resource Center In a message dated 5/13/2009 9:14:11 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, drswilli...@yahoo.com writes: She doesn't have a book, but Karen Thompson has been reproducing

[lace] Ipswich lace prickings

2009-05-12 Thread Elise and Scott Hays
Does anyone know of a book of prickings (preferably with diagrams) for Ipswich lace? I have the book The Laces of Ipswich by Marta Cotterell Raffel on order, but from what I can gather it is more of a history and has no patterns. I know that examples of the lace and prickings exist, but I

RE: [lace] Ipswich Lace ( UK USA)

2008-02-26 Thread Carolyn Hastings
Adkinson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 10:59 AM To: Carolyn Hastings; 'Katrina longmuir'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; lace@arachne.com Subject: Re: [lace] Ipswich Lace ( UK USA) Hi Katrina, Jeri, Carolyn and All, Was the Ipswich tapestry the one designed and made

RE: [lace] Ipswich Lace ( UK USA)

2008-02-26 Thread Carolyn Hastings
'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; lace@arachne.com Subject: RE: [lace] Ipswich Lace ( UK USA) I have to ask -- I did have the impression that the tapestries were embroidered by one or more needlework guilds, and thus not the work of a single person. And there were a series of panels, not a single one

Re: [lace] Ipswich Lace ( UK USA)

2008-02-25 Thread Carol Adkinson
' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; lace@arachne.com Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 12:11 AM Subject: [lace] Ipswich Lace ( UK USA) Dear Katrina, I'm sorry that you were disappointed to find that the Ipswich lace of my message was from Ipswich, USA. Add to that the fact that I really wasn't

[lace] Ipswich Lace ( UK USA)

2008-02-24 Thread Carolyn Hastings
] Ipswich Lace (a reference to Pilgrims and lace in paragraph 5) Dear Jeri Ames, If my signature block had stayed on my message I said I was Katrina in a very bleak Ipswich in England, (where incidentaly they have just found the man charged with 5 girls murder in December 2006 Guilty

[lace] Ipswich Lace

2008-02-23 Thread nicky.hoewener-townsend
Hello Katrina Have just been catching up on the latest couple of digests and needless to say picked up on the Ipswich lace theme and then spotted that you are from Ipswich, Suffolk. Have you ever been along to a Suffolk Lacemakers Lace Day? There are several held fairly close to Ipswich, ie at

Re: [lace] Ipswich Lace on eBay?

2008-02-21 Thread Ilske Thomsen
Clay, it's for sure a simple but handmade Point Ground Lace. This pattern we find on several places so it's very dificult to say from which place. Ilske - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL

Re: [lace] Ipswich Lace on eBay?

2008-02-21 Thread clayblackwell
Thanks to all of you who answered my question. I haven't taken the time to learn more about Ipswich. Now I know something of what it *isn't*... should probably try to learn more about what it is. ; ) Clay -- Clay Blackwell Lynchburg, VA USA -- Original message

Re: [lace] Ipswich Lace on eBay?

2008-02-21 Thread Regina Haring
@arachne.com Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2008 7:51 AM Subject: Re: [lace] Ipswich Lace on eBay? Clay, it's for sure a simple but handmade Point Ground Lace. This pattern we find on several places so it's very dificult to say from which place. Ilske - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED

RE: [lace] Ipswich Lace on eBay?

2008-02-21 Thread Katrina longmuir
What a shame I read Ipswich Lace and shot into the link to find it was Ipswich USA not Ipswich where I currently reside well never mind I'll get on with my 'Ipswich Lace' and dream on.. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [lace] Ipswich Lace on eBay?

2008-02-21 Thread Brenda Paternoster
Definitely hand made point ground lace, but without a powerful magnifier and the OIDFA PG study book it's impossible to to be any more precise because it's fairly simple pattern so likely to have been made/made in more than one of the point ground areas. Brenda On 21 Feb 2008, at 02:25,

Re: [lace] Ipswich Lace (a reference to Pilgrims and lace in paragraph 5)

2008-02-21 Thread Jeriames
In a message dated 2/21/2008 11:19:09 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What a shame I read Ipswich Lace and shot into the link to find it was Ipswich USA not Ipswich where I currently reside well never mind I'll get on with my 'Ipswich Lace' and dream on..

RE: [lace] Ipswich Lace (a reference to Pilgrims and lace in paragraph 5)

2008-02-21 Thread Katrina longmuir
Dear Jeri Ames, If my signature block had stayed on my message I said I was Katrina in a very bleak Ipswich in England, (where incidentaly they have just found the man charged with 5 girls murder in December 2006 Guilty-there is justice after all), but we are hoping for warmer weather this

[lace] Ipswich Lace on eBay?

2008-02-20 Thread clayblackwell
There is currently a listing on eBay for a length of black lace. It is very simple in design, and seems to be fairly unevenly worked - signalling the likelihood that it is handmade. It is being sold from Pennsylvania. I wonder if this is some Ipswich lace? Does anyone out there know

Re: [lace] Ipswich Lace on eBay?

2008-02-20 Thread Regina Haring
. Regina - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: lace@arachne.com Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 9:25 PM Subject: [lace] Ipswich Lace on eBay? There is currently a listing on eBay for a length of black lace. It is very simple in design, and seems to be fairly unevenly worked