And I bought it when I first heard it was in print. Definitely worth
getting. I put it on the demo table at the Chicago Botanic Garden so that I
could talk about historical lace in the USA
Sue
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lace books I want. I have this book, among others, on order (and I hope in
the mail), and a bunch of CDs on my wish list!!
On Sat, Dec 9, 2017 at 3:16 PM, Adele Shaak wrote:
>
> But honestly, doesnât
> But, isnât the lace on the pillow at the Smithsonian, made by the 90 year
> old lacemaker in 1860, who had worked lace in the 1780s and 90s in Ipswich,
MA
> a point ground lace?
If I were making lace 70-odd years after I started, I hope Iâd be making a
different pattern. ;-)
But honestly,
I do hope that if I were making lace 70 years from now, I would not be making
the same pattern ;-)
Adele
> On Dec 9, 2017, at 11:19 AM, DevonThein wrote:
>
> But, isnât the lace on the pillow at the Smithsonian, made by the 90 year
> old lacemaker in 1860, who had worked
Karen writes:
Ipswich Massachusetts lace is NOT a point ground lace. From a distance it
might look like it, but as it now has been pointed out, the grounds are
Torchon variations and Kat stitch. The only time point ground was used in the
22 samples we have from 1790 is as a filling in a motif.
Maureen, Nancy and others,
Ipswich Massachusetts lace is NOT a point ground lace. From a distance it might
look like it, but as it now has been pointed out, the grounds are Torchon
variations and Kat stitch. The only time point ground was used in the 22
samples we have from 1790 is as a
I have Karen’s book, and the interesting thing is the Ipswich (MA) laces are
*not* point ground laces. They look like it, I know, and I made that mistake
myself when I first looked only at the pictures, but the samples use Torchon
ground, Honeycomb ground, and Kat stitch ground.
Adele
West
I have Karen’s book, and the interesting thing is the Ipswich (MA) laces are
*not* point ground laces. They look like it, I know, and I made that mistake
myself when I first looked only at the pictures, but the samples use Torchon
ground, Honeycomb ground, and Kat stitch ground.
Adele
West
Hi Maureen and Nancy,
I thought that one of the characteristics of the Ipswich MA lace is the often
different angle of the grid in the ground and in the motifs. The angle in the
ground is 66° or 52° and in the motifs often 45°. Karen Thompson says the same
thing in her book The Lace Samples
I suppose you might say that the difference between lace made in Ipswich, MA
and that made in Ipswich, England is that the Ipswich, MA handmade lace
industry was the only handmade lace industry in the US, and thus quite an
anomaly, whereas the Ipswich, England handmade lace industry was one of
Hi Nancy
Thank you. I have just googled Ipswich MA lace and it does look very
similar to Bucks Point. I think I need to see a book to compare.
HI Maureen
Beyond the trivial answer (the difference is where they were made), I don't
know for sure. The Ipswich MA lace is point ground, but
Hi Maureen,
Beyond the trivial answer (the difference is where they were made), I don't
know for sure. The Ipswich MA lace is point ground, but narrow and made of
black silk, which is unusual in the UK point ground I think.
Karen Thompson (or her book) would be the authoritative source to answer
Dear Nancy
What is the difference between Ipswich lace UK and Ipswich Massachusetts
please? I am sure I should know, or at least know where to look but my main
computer often deletes part of an email, no matter who the service provider
is.
Hi Daphne,
Are you thinking Ipswich UK? We haven't
Thank you Karen. That’s all I wanted to know.
Ann
UK
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Thanks Karen for posting this URL - I had lost any previous messages that had
this link.
What fun I had looking at the photos! If you havenât tried the link yet -
they are high definition photos. Click on the photo so that it fills the page,
and then you can zoom in so close you can see the
Hello again after a long time! Smile.
I just would like to let you good folks know that despite many efforts via
the USA over the years I do not have a genuine "antique" Ipswich bobbin.
A few pictures of such a bobbin would suffice for my purposes, especially
showing the "hollow" nature of it,
Dear Ann,
I think two Ipswich, Massachusetts lace pillow entries are mixed here. Jeri
wrote about her very interesting pillow under Ipswich style pillow. Under
the Bucks Point discussion I gave a link to the one with the tag, which is
in the Smithsonian Museum collection in Washington, DC, USA.
Hi Daphne,
Are you thinking Ipswich UK? We haven't been clear, but we're talking about
lace made in Ipswich Massachusetts.
Nancy
Connecticut, USA
On Fri, Dec 8, 2017 at 5:52 AM, Daphne Martin wrote:
> Hello
> Nicky Townsend has written a book on this lace. She has done a
Hello
Nicky Townsend has written a book on this lace. She has done a brilliant job by
showing pictures,diagrams etc. Nicky researched this lace,as can be seen in her
book Suffolk Lace.
Daphne Norwich Uk.
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The Whipple House Museum in Ipswich is supposed to have a collection of
Ipswich lace. Unfortunately they don't have any photos on their website that
I can find. It's on my bucket list to visit there some day.
http://ipswichmuseum.drupalgardens.com/exhibitions-collections/whipple-house
Diane
Some of the members of the New England Lace Group have worked on cataloguing the
lace collection at the Ipswich Historical Society and have photographed much of
the lace and posted the photos on their Yahoo group
site:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Ipswich_Lace/ You will need to join the
group to
I visited the Ipswich Museum a couple years ago, and was disappointed. I went
without any prior arrangements. There is one bolster pillow, maybe two, some
bobbins, a few examples of the lace, some prickings, but very little else. All
in one small case. I believe some people from the local
Thanks for the reminder Jill. I'm a member of this Yahoo group and I remember
that they posted MANY photos of the lace collections. The laces though are
not all Ipswich-made. I wonder if Shell, the original poster, is interested
in the Ipswich-made laces from the late 18th-century or all the
You do need to make special arrangements to see what is in the archived
collection - which is substantial, by the way, although it is not all Ipswich
lace. The New England Lace Group made a field trip a couple of years' ago and
were rewarded with a splendid display. If you know you're going to
Oh! The stories to tell!
Two Maine lace makers went down to the Whipple House (Colonial Period
historic property owned by the Ipswich Historical Society) to view lace years
ago. The curator was contacted in advance, so we were expected.
We were shown to an upper room, where short cuts
Shell,
together with some American ladies I helped the Ipswich Museum to identify the
laces from Ipswich Museum. I am sure you could find them in internet.
Ilske
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Shell and others,
Since I subscribe to the digest, I just saw the posts about Ipswich. I
think your question has been answered well by other members. Marta
Cotterells book Ipswich Laces is the most comprehensive. The black silk
Ipswich laces from 1789-90 are some of the best documented early
I have tried in vain to find a photo or much information about this
lace. I only found the one article online by Jeri Ames about this. But
so far no photos, images, or prickings. Am I missing it?
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I just searched the archive under Ipswich, and on the second page there's a
link to materials held at the Library of Congress.
http://www.loc.gov/exhibits/treasures/trm157.html; there were other posts
that looked of interest, concerning a museum near Ipswich, etc., so I'd say
an archive
And, of course, the book The Laces of Ipswich by Marta Cotterell Raffel.
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I have received an inquiry from a man who would like to see examples of
Ipswich lace, preferably in the geographical area of Ipswich. I have Marta
Cotterall's book and from that, it would seem that the best examples are
actually in Washington, DC. How easy it is to access any of these, I do
Hi Devon,
There is (or at least was) a small amount of Ipswich lace on display in
the Whipple House in Ipswich, Mass. I visited there about ten years
ago and found the house full of other interesting things as well, and
it is well worth visiting. Of course you are right that our group has
, just that
they have it.
Lyn in Lancaster, Pennsylvania, where it's cool, and sunny, with no rain for
quite a while. Indian Summer come early.
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Subject: Re: [lace] Ipswich Lace- location of examples
Hi Devon,
There is (or at least was) a small amount of Ipswich lace on display in
the Whipple House in Ipswich, Mass. I visited there about ten years
ago and found the house full of other interesting things as well, and
it is well worth
That lecture was given by Marta Cotterell Raffel, author of The Laces
of Ipswich.
Vicki
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The last time the IOLI convention was at Bathesda someone did a lecture
on the history
Thanks to all who responded to my question regarding prickings. I was glad to
hear that 6 patterns were in the book I have ordered. I expect it to arrive
today or tomorrow and I am looking forward to reading it!
Thanks again,
Elise
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Dear Arachnids,
Elise lives near me. I'm able to take care of her questions.
Jeri Ames
Lace and Embroidery Resource Center
In a message dated 5/13/2009 9:14:11 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
drswilli...@yahoo.com writes:
She doesn't have a book, but Karen Thompson has been reproducing
Does anyone know of a book of prickings (preferably with diagrams) for
Ipswich lace? I have the book The Laces of Ipswich by Marta Cotterell Raffel
on order, but from what I can gather it is more of a history and has no
patterns. I know that examples of the lace and prickings exist, but I
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Hi Katrina, Jeri, Carolyn and All,
Was the Ipswich tapestry the one designed and made
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I have to ask -- I did have the impression that the tapestries were
embroidered by one or more needlework guilds, and thus not the work of
a
single person. And there were a series of panels, not a single one
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Dear Katrina,
I'm sorry that you were disappointed to find that the Ipswich lace of my
message was from Ipswich, USA. Add to that the fact that I really wasn't
] Ipswich Lace (a reference to Pilgrims and lace in
paragraph 5)
Dear Jeri Ames, If my signature block had stayed on my message I said I
was
Katrina in
a very bleak Ipswich in England, (where incidentaly they have just
found the
man charged with 5 girls murder in December 2006 Guilty
Hello Katrina
Have just been catching up on the latest couple of digests and needless to
say picked up on the Ipswich lace theme and then spotted that you are from
Ipswich, Suffolk. Have you ever been along to a Suffolk Lacemakers Lace Day?
There are several held fairly close to Ipswich, ie at
Clay,
it's for sure a simple but handmade Point Ground Lace. This pattern we
find on several places so it's very dificult to say from which place.
Ilske
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Thanks to all of you who answered my question. I haven't taken the time to
learn more about Ipswich. Now I know something of what it *isn't*... should
probably try to learn more about what it is. ; )
Clay
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Clay,
it's for sure a simple but handmade Point Ground Lace. This pattern we
find on several places so it's very dificult to say from which place.
Ilske
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What a shame I read Ipswich Lace and shot into the link to find it was Ipswich
USA not Ipswich where
I currently reside well never mind I'll get on with my 'Ipswich Lace' and
dream on..
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Definitely hand made point ground lace, but without a powerful
magnifier and the OIDFA PG study book it's impossible to to be any more
precise because it's fairly simple pattern so likely to have been
made/made in more than one of the point ground areas.
Brenda
On 21 Feb 2008, at 02:25,
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What a shame I read Ipswich Lace and shot into the link to find it was
Ipswich
USA not Ipswich where
I currently reside well never mind I'll get on with my 'Ipswich Lace' and
dream on..
Dear Jeri Ames, If my signature block had stayed on my message I said I was
Katrina in
a very bleak Ipswich in England, (where incidentaly they have just found the
man charged with 5 girls murder in December 2006 Guilty-there is justice after
all), but we are hoping for warmer weather this
There is currently a listing on eBay for a length of black lace. It is very
simple in design, and seems to be fairly unevenly worked - signalling the
likelihood that it is handmade. It is being sold from Pennsylvania. I wonder
if this is some Ipswich lace?
Does anyone out there know
.
Regina
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There is currently a listing on eBay for a length of black lace. It is
very simple in design, and seems to be fairly unevenly worked
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