Re: [Lazarus] German umlauts in component names

2016-04-08 14:13 GMT+02:00 Vojtěch Čihák : > IMO it is not my local problem, those mails can be found in archive too: > http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/pipermail/lazarus/2016-April/thread.html > > > > Vojtech > > > > On 04/08/2016 12:24 PM, Vojtěch Čihák wrote: > > Why

Re: [Lazarus] German umlauts in component names

On Mon, Apr 4, 2016 at 5:48 PM, Ondrej Pokorny wrote: > On 04.04.2016 12:05, Special wrote: > >> BTW too: Some English words became part of german, like 'Computer' und >> 'Button'. We don't say "Elektronische Rechenmaschine" any longer, and more >> and more german book authors

Re: [Lazarus] German umlauts in component names

On 2016-04-08 13:02, Zeljko wrote: > I don't see such empty emails. Where do they come ? I see them too. They come from the list address. Regards, - Graeme - -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org

Re: [Lazarus] German umlauts in component names

t;lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org> Datum: 08.04.2016 14:01 Předmět: Re: [Lazarus] German umlauts in component names On 04/08/2016 12:24 PM, Vojtěch Čihák wrote: Why sometimes come these empty mails from jel...@misticnabica.hr? Is it regular member or some bot? I think it's hacked ma

Re: [Lazarus] German umlauts in component names

On Fri, 8 Apr 2016, Zeljko wrote: On 04/08/2016 12:24 PM, Vojtěch Čihák wrote: Why sometimes come these empty mails from jel...@misticnabica.hr? Is it regular member or some bot? I think it's hacked machine...I'll inform that ppl that they are sending spam. btw. I don't see such empty

Re: [Lazarus] German umlauts in component names

On 04/08/2016 12:24 PM, Vojtěch Čihák wrote: Why sometimes come these empty mails from jel...@misticnabica.hr? Is it regular member or some bot? I think it's hacked machine...I'll inform that ppl that they are sending spam. btw. I don't see such empty emails. Where do they come ? To your

Re: [Lazarus] German umlauts in component names

On 2016-04-08 12:40, Santiago A. wrote: > I didn't know Delphi allowed to use above-127 chars for identifiers or > component names. Since what version? I would imagine since Unicode String support was added... So that would be Delphi 2009. Regards, - Graeme - -- fpGUI Toolkit - a

Re: [Lazarus] German umlauts in component names

El 02/04/2016 a las 10:14, Special escribió: > How can I use names with German Umlauts and 'ß' in the Name Field of > TButton components? For instance, I try to set MyButton.Name to > "Schließenbutton" and get an error message "Komponentenname > Schließenbutton ist kein gültiger Bezeichner". > >

Re: [Lazarus] German umlauts in component names

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Re: [Lazarus] German umlauts in component names

On 2016-04-08 10:29, Dennis wrote: > procedure 賣; {means SELL} > begin > end; The best code obfuscating ever! :-D Regards, - Graeme - -- fpGUI Toolkit - a cross-platform GUI toolkit using Free Pascal http://fpgui.sourceforge.net/ My public PGP key: http://tinyurl.com/graeme-pgp --

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Re: [Lazarus] German umlauts in component names

Andreas Schneider wrote: Am 2016-04-02 14:38, schrieb Graeme Geldenhuys: On 2016-04-02 13:16, Santiago A. wrote: similar should be done. You would need to make compulsory a command in source code to tell which code set is using. As a contract programmer I already struggle working on code

Re: [Lazarus] German umlauts in component names

Am 2016-04-02 14:38, schrieb Graeme Geldenhuys: On 2016-04-02 13:16, Santiago A. wrote: similar should be done. You would need to make compulsory a command in source code to tell which code set is using. As a contract programmer I already struggle working on code where identifiers, Class

Re: [Lazarus] German umlauts in component names

On 4/5/16, Giuliano Colla wrote: > As a side note, to play music you need to learn a number of Italian > words, because of the prevalence of Italian composers and performers in > the past centuries. > To write computer programs you need to manage some basic English

Re: [Lazarus] German umlauts in component names

Il 02/04/2016 10:14, Special ha scritto: How can I use names with German Umlauts and 'ß' in the Name Field of TButton components? For instance, I try to set MyButton.Name to "Schließenbutton" and get an error message "Komponentenname Schließenbutton ist kein gültiger Bezeichner". Using

Re: [Lazarus] German umlauts in component names

On Tue, 5 Apr 2016 11:22:21 +0200 JuuS wrote: >[...] > Use a label with custom draw/paint and make your own "buttons" using > whatever characters you like and use the label's onclick to get where > you need to go. No need to. TButton.Caption supports Unicode. Mattias --

Re: [Lazarus] German umlauts in component names

On 04/05/2016 10:59 AM, Santiago A. wrote: > > I'm Spanish, and I don't support non ascii identifiers. > > Perhaps for teaching boys would be useful. > Very interesting discussion, I had no opinion before but now I'm totally on the side of no non-ascii identifiers. But I also understand the

Re: [Lazarus] German umlauts in component names

El 04/04/2016 a las 12:12, Mattias Gaertner escribió: > This is an English mailing list, so naturally you will find many > thinking the same here. But many people want to use non English words > as identifiers. They need non English letters. I'm Spanish, and I don't support non ascii identifiers.

Re: [Lazarus] German umlauts in component names

On 04.04.2016 18:07, Ondrej Pokorny wrote: > On 04.04.2016 16:57, Bart wrote: >> To me it just looks funny to have 2 languages in one file e.g. > > Just a curiosity from FPC code :) > > compiler/tokens.pas: > _LECKKLAMMER (I assume "linke eckige Klammer") > _RECKKLAMMER > _LKLAMMER > _RKLAMMER >

Re: [Lazarus] German umlauts in component names

On 04.04.2016 16:57, Bart wrote: To me it just looks funny to have 2 languages in one file e.g. Just a curiosity from FPC code :) compiler/tokens.pas: _LECKKLAMMER (I assume "linke eckige Klammer") _RECKKLAMMER _LKLAMMER _RKLAMMER rtl/inc/text.inc: Procedure

Re: [Lazarus] German umlauts in component names

On 04.04.2016 12:05, Special wrote: BTW too: Some English words became part of german, like 'Computer' und 'Button'. We don't say "Elektronische Rechenmaschine" any longer, and more and more german book authors say "Button" instead of the strange "Schaltfläche". Yes, I confess, I used

Re: [Lazarus] German umlauts in component names

On 2016-04-04 15:57, Bart wrote: > To me it just looks funny to have 2 languages in one file e.g. :) I agree. Even though I developed Afrikaans application at one point, using English in the source code was much more natural and matched the Object Pascal and RTL English language usage. I like

Re: [Lazarus] German umlauts in component names

On 04/04/2016 10:57 AM, Bart wrote: Well, I'm not English and still I do not desire such a feature. I tend to have English names for all procedures/functions/properties/types as well. To me it just looks funny to have 2 languages in one file e.g. the worst that i've seen is delphi code with

Re: [Lazarus] German umlauts in component names

On 4/4/16, Mattias Gaertner wrote: > This is an English mailing list, so naturally you will find many > thinking the same here. > But many people want to use non English words as identifiers. They need > non English letters. Well, I'm not English and still I do not

Re: [Lazarus] German umlauts in component names

Am 04.04.2016 12:12 schrieb "Mattias Gaertner" : > > As funny as the idea of using emojis for identifiers sound as scary it is. > > So I don't really support this. > > I share your concerns about non English keywords. For identifiers I > see some gain. > > Do the linker,

Re: [Lazarus] German umlauts in component names

On Mon, 4 Apr 2016 11:45:02 +0200 Sven Barth wrote: > Am 04.04.2016 11:40 schrieb "Special" : > > What problems, Denis? We use component names like "SchließenButton" since > many years with Delphi in training programs for german pupils. And in

Re: [Lazarus] German umlauts in component names

Am 04.04.2016 um 11:54 schrieb Ondrej Pokorny: On 04.04.2016 11:40, Special wrote: What problems, Denis? We use component names like "SchließenButton" since many years with Delphi in training programs for german pupils. And in code for the international community, we don't use it. Sometimes

Re: [Lazarus] German umlauts in component names

On 04.04.2016 11:40, Special wrote: What problems, Denis? We use component names like "SchließenButton" since many years with Delphi in training programs for german pupils. And in code for the international community, we don't use it. Sometimes it's better to give people less rights. They do

Re: [Lazarus] German umlauts in component names

Am 04.04.2016 11:40 schrieb "Special" : > What problems, Denis? We use component names like "SchließenButton" since many years with Delphi in training programs for german pupils. And in code for the international community, we don't use it. *You* might do this, but others

Re: [Lazarus] German umlauts in component names

Am 03.04.2016 um 06:21 schrieb Dennis: Graeme Geldenhuys wrote: On 2016-04-02 13:16, Santiago A. wrote: similar should be done. You would need to make compulsory a command in source code to tell which code set is using. I would hope anybody in this day and age only uses UTF-8 for text files

Re: [Lazarus] German umlauts in component names

Graeme Geldenhuys wrote: On 2016-04-02 13:16, Santiago A. wrote: similar should be done. You would need to make compulsory a command in source code to tell which code set is using. I would hope anybody in this day and age only uses UTF-8 for text files and source code. It was designed to

Re: [Lazarus] German umlauts in component names

On 2016-04-02 13:16, Santiago A. wrote: > similar should be done. You would need to make compulsory a command in > source code to tell which code set is using. I would hope anybody in this day and age only uses UTF-8 for text files and source code. It was designed to solve the multiple CodePages

Re: [Lazarus] German umlauts in component names

El 02/04/2016 a las 12:32, Special escribió: > Why? What's so bad with TButton.Name "StraßeButton" to select "Straße" > in, for instance, a school program for german kids? Messing with ascii codes above 127 is a problem. Look the mess in strings with different char code sets. Are we going to

Re: [Lazarus] German umlauts in component names

Am 2016-04-02 um 12:32 schrieb Special: > Why? What's so bad with TButton.Name "StraßeButton" to select "Straße" in, for instance, a school program for german kids? I am german too and I also would not like to have this. Just think about programs written by japanese or chinese programmers using

Re: [Lazarus] German umlauts in component names

Why? What's so bad with TButton.Name "StraßeButton" to select "Straße" in, for instance, a school program for german kids? Am 02.04.2016 um 11:54 schrieb Werner Pamler: Am 02.04.2016 um 11:35 schrieb Michael Van Canneyt: On Sat, 2 Apr 2016, Martin Schreiber wrote: On Saturday 02 April

Re: [Lazarus] German umlauts in component names

Am 02.04.2016 um 11:35 schrieb Michael Van Canneyt: On Sat, 2 Apr 2016, Martin Schreiber wrote: On Saturday 02 April 2016 10:30:51 Mattias Gaertner wrote: We have many Delphi Programs with German Umlauts in component names and would like to go to Lazarus with them. Any hints? This is

Re: [Lazarus] German umlauts in component names

On Sat, 2 Apr 2016, Martin Schreiber wrote: On Saturday 02 April 2016 10:30:51 Mattias Gaertner wrote: We have many Delphi Programs with German Umlauts in component names and would like to go to Lazarus with them. Any hints? This is not supported by FPC yet. Not supported *yet*?

Re: [Lazarus] German umlauts in component names

On Saturday 02 April 2016 10:30:51 Mattias Gaertner wrote: > > We have many Delphi Programs with German Umlauts in component names and > > would like to go to Lazarus with them. > > Any hints? > > This is not supported by FPC yet. Not supported *yet*? Shudder. Martin --

Re: [Lazarus] German umlauts in component names

On Sat, 2 Apr 2016, Special wrote: How can I use names with German Umlauts and 'ß' in the Name Field of TButton components? For instance, I try to set MyButton.Name to "Schließenbutton" and get an error message "Komponentenname Schließenbutton ist kein gültiger Bezeichner". This happens

Re: [Lazarus] German umlauts in component names

On Sat, 2 Apr 2016 10:14:24 +0200 Special wrote: > How can I use names with German Umlauts and 'ß' in the Name Field of > TButton components? For instance, I try to set MyButton.Name to > "Schließenbutton" and get an error message "Komponentenname > Schließenbutton ist

[Lazarus] German umlauts in component names

How can I use names with German Umlauts and 'ß' in the Name Field of TButton components? For instance, I try to set MyButton.Name to "Schließenbutton" and get an error message "Komponentenname Schließenbutton ist kein gültiger Bezeichner". This happens with Lazarus 1.6 and FPC 3.0.0 under Win