Re: [Lazarus] FPC and Lazarus on ARM

2011-04-06 Thread Mark Morgan Lloyd
Den Jean wrote: On Sunday 27 March 2011 23:13:37 Florian Klämpfl wrote: Am 26.03.2011 22:02, schrieb Tobias Giesen: If anybody is looking for an ARM device, the Toshiba AC100 is pretty cool. Around 200 EUR with Cortex A9 dual core and 512 MB RAM. It is a netbook computer and has HDMI as well

Re: [Lazarus] FPC and Lazarus on ARM

2011-04-06 Thread Mark Morgan Lloyd
Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote: At this point I need to come clean: I'm aware of one and possibly two bugs that affect the Lazarus IDE on both ARM and SPARC: basically, an exception when switching projects and when closing the IDE. It doesn't happen on x86 and PPC, which suggests to me that it could

Re: [Lazarus] FPC and Lazarus on ARM

2011-04-05 Thread Den Jean
On Sunday 27 March 2011 23:13:37 Florian Klämpfl wrote: Am 26.03.2011 22:02, schrieb Tobias Giesen: If anybody is looking for an ARM device, the Toshiba AC100 is pretty cool. Around 200 EUR with Cortex A9 dual core and 512 MB RAM. It is a netbook computer and has HDMI as well as USB. Mine

Re: [Lazarus] FPC and Lazarus on ARM

2011-03-31 Thread Florian Klaempfl
Am 28.03.2011 13:35, schrieb Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho: On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 1:18 PM, Florian Klaempfl flor...@freepascal.org wrote: Am 28.03.2011 11:41, schrieb Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho: If you want to actually develop on the platform, you really need to get rid of Android and

Re: [Lazarus] FPC and Lazarus on ARM

2011-03-29 Thread Michael Schnell
Thanks a lot for the push !!! It works. And it's astonishingly fast. -Michael -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus

Re: [Lazarus] FPC and Lazarus on ARM

2011-03-29 Thread Michael Schnell
On 28.03.2011 13:09, Michael Schnell wrote: On 03/28/2011 12:43 PM, Marc Weustink wrote: look at the no_root_squash export option Thanks a lot ! I'll try this. Works ! Thanks a lot ! -Michael -- ___ Lazarus mailing list

Re: [Lazarus] FPC and Lazarus on ARM

2011-03-29 Thread Michael Schnell
On 28.03.2011 13:09, Michael Schnell wrote: - Unfortunately, on the Slug, automount does not seem to create the subdirectory given in the /etc/auto.xxx file denoted by /etc/auto.master, so that I can't automount the USB disks yet :( . i.e. it does work magically. While on the Suse Box in

Re: [Lazarus] FPC and Lazarus on ARM

2011-03-28 Thread Tobias Giesen
Hi, apparently the binary release 2.2.2 for ARM does not run on Cortex A9, I get Illegal instruction. So I will try to do cross-compiling next. Cheers, Tobias -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org

Re: [Lazarus] FPC and Lazarus on ARM

2011-03-28 Thread Henry Vermaak
On 27/03/11 22:13, Florian Klämpfl wrote: Am 26.03.2011 22:02, schrieb Tobias Giesen: If anybody is looking for an ARM device, the Toshiba AC100 is pretty cool. Around 200 EUR with Cortex A9 dual core and 512 MB RAM. It is a netbook computer and has HDMI as well as USB. Mine has an 8GB SSD.

Re: [Lazarus] FPC and Lazarus on ARM

2011-03-28 Thread Michael Schnell
On 03/24/2011 02:53 PM, Michael Schnell wrote: In fact I have no experience at all with any of ISCSI, NFS and Debian, so I did not dare to start the migration yet. Triggered by this discussion, in the weekend, I took my Slug out of the cupboard, updated Debian to the most recent distribution

Re: [Lazarus] FPC and Lazarus on ARM

2011-03-28 Thread Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho
On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 10:34 AM, Henry Vermaak henry.verm...@gmail.com wrote: I was excited when I saw the AC100, but it comes with Android (!?) and it got spectacularly low reviews (10%, or so).  Seeing Ubuntu on it now sounds promising, though. I have AC100 in my office. Remember that if

Re: [Lazarus] FPC and Lazarus on ARM

2011-03-28 Thread Marc Weustink
Michael Schnell wrote: ... - Unfortunately, the NFS share is read-only on the Suse Box (using only root user at both sites), even tough mount says read-write, and rw is enabled in the exports file :( . look at the no_root_squash export option - Unfortunately, on the Slug, automount does not

Re: [Lazarus] FPC and Lazarus on ARM

2011-03-28 Thread Michael Schnell
On 03/28/2011 11:41 AM, Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho wrote: I have AC100 in my office. Remember that if you have Android installed don't think that you will be able to use it as a development platform. Android pretty much kills this possibility because: * There is no user-acessible console Not

Re: [Lazarus] FPC and Lazarus on ARM

2011-03-28 Thread Michael Schnell
On 03/28/2011 12:43 PM, Marc Weustink wrote: look at the no_root_squash export option Thanks a lot ! I'll try this. - Unfortunately, on the Slug, automount does not seem to create the subdirectory given in the /etc/auto.xxx file denoted by /etc/auto.master, so that I can't automount the USB

Re: [Lazarus] FPC and Lazarus on ARM

2011-03-28 Thread Florian Klaempfl
Am 28.03.2011 11:41, schrieb Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho: If you want to actually develop on the platform, you really need to get rid of Android and install a standard Linux. If you manage to do that, then AC100 with a USB mouse might actually be a good ARM test platform for developers.

Re: [Lazarus] FPC and Lazarus on ARM

2011-03-28 Thread Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho
On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 1:01 PM, Michael Schnell mschn...@lumino.de wrote: Not true. My son just bought an android phone. Within just a few minutes he had an App up and running that gave him a console window (including a keyboard on the touch screen, as his device does not have a physical

Re: [Lazarus] FPC and Lazarus on ARM

2011-03-28 Thread Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho
On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 1:18 PM, Florian Klaempfl flor...@freepascal.org wrote: Am 28.03.2011 11:41, schrieb Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho: If you want to actually develop on the platform, you really need to get rid of Android and install a standard Linux. If you manage to do that, then AC100

Re: [Lazarus] FPC and Lazarus on ARM

2011-03-28 Thread Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho
On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 1:35 PM, Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho felipemonteiro.carva...@gmail.com wrote: Did you do so? No, not really. In my work all development is done via cross-compiling. I didn't even previously know that it is possible to install Linux in AC100, found out with Henry

Re: [Lazarus] FPC and Lazarus on ARM

2011-03-28 Thread Mark Morgan Lloyd
Michael Schnell wrote: On 03/24/2011 02:53 PM, Michael Schnell wrote: In fact I have no experience at all with any of ISCSI, NFS and Debian, so I did not dare to start the migration yet. Triggered by this discussion, in the weekend, I took my Slug out of the cupboard, updated Debian to the

Re: [Lazarus] FPC and Lazarus on ARM

2011-03-28 Thread Michael Schnell
On 03/28/2011 02:19 PM, Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote: :-) but don't try building Lazarus on it- it will take a week. Thanks for the warning :-) :-) . It's just supposed to be a remote host attaching the backup drives to the network. Its usual work is receiving the files when the main server

Re: [Lazarus] FPC and Lazarus on ARM

2011-03-28 Thread Tobias Giesen
I didn't even previously know that it is possible to install Linux in AC100, found out with Henry Vermaak's message. Some issues which come to my mind about doing that: * Will the WiFi keep working? Yes, with some simple tweaks. But I am now using a USB Ethernet adapter because I didn't have

Re: [Lazarus] FPC and Lazarus on ARM

2011-03-27 Thread Mark Morgan Lloyd
Tobias Giesen wrote: Hello, many thanks for all the help! If anybody is looking for an ARM device, the Toshiba AC100 is pretty cool. Around 200 EUR with Cortex A9 dual core and 512 MB RAM. It is a netbook computer and has HDMI as well as USB. Mine has an 8GB SSD. It comes with Android 2.1 (a

Re: [Lazarus] FPC and Lazarus on ARM

2011-03-27 Thread Florian Klämpfl
Am 26.03.2011 22:02, schrieb Tobias Giesen: If anybody is looking for an ARM device, the Toshiba AC100 is pretty cool. Around 200 EUR with Cortex A9 dual core and 512 MB RAM. It is a netbook computer and has HDMI as well as USB. Mine has an 8GB SSD. Hmm, would be a nice system to improve fpc

Re: [Lazarus] FPC and Lazarus on ARM

2011-03-26 Thread Marco van de Voort
On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 11:21:27PM +, Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote: Everybody knows that benchmarks are odious, but I've got a handy torture test that I've run on a variety of systems from a 16-way Sun down to a Slug. Usefully, this can be used both to get a time to completion of the

Re: [Lazarus] FPC and Lazarus on ARM

2011-03-26 Thread Tobias Giesen
Hello, many thanks for all the help! If anybody is looking for an ARM device, the Toshiba AC100 is pretty cool. Around 200 EUR with Cortex A9 dual core and 512 MB RAM. It is a netbook computer and has HDMI as well as USB. Mine has an 8GB SSD. It comes with Android 2.1 (a 2.2 update is

Re: [Lazarus] FPC and Lazarus on ARM

2011-03-26 Thread Den Jean
On Saturday 26 March 2011 15:05:49 Marco van de Voort wrote: It would be interesting to see how the efika fares. (also 25min I'd expect, Google translate if your French is rusty. http://www.blogarm.net/test-du-genesi-efikamx-smartbook-par-pipou24/

Re: [Lazarus] FPC and Lazarus on ARM

2011-03-25 Thread Mark Morgan Lloyd
Marco van de Voort wrote: On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 09:37:52AM +, Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote: wiki page on how to set up a native FPC environment on ARM/Linux. e.g. an ARM-based development systems page referenced at http://wiki.lazarus.freepascal.org/Platform_list#Supported_targets_for_ARM

Re: [Lazarus] FPC and Lazarus on ARM

2011-03-25 Thread Henry Vermaak
On 25 March 2011 08:09, Marco van de Voort mar...@stack.nl wrote: On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 09:37:52AM +, Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote: wiki page on how to set up a native FPC environment on ARM/Linux. e.g. an ARM-based development systems page referenced at

Re: [Lazarus] FPC and Lazarus on ARM

2011-03-25 Thread Mark Morgan Lloyd
Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote: Michael Schnell wrote: So I think that the wiki could be used to installa fpc/lazarus on any arm-linux platform. :) Sounds great. So maybe Mark could do some testing and enhance the text to be more general. I'll see what I can do, but it might be better if I

Re: [Lazarus] FPC and Lazarus on ARM

2011-03-25 Thread Marco van de Voort
On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 10:06:47AM +, Henry Vermaak wrote: The latter is particularly interesting since it is effectively a desktop (sata + lots of USB + VGA). I'm planning to install the just new Fedora 13 and need to set up a crosscompile kernel. I've been thinking about getting one

Re: [Lazarus] FPC and Lazarus on ARM

2011-03-25 Thread Michael Schnell
Thanks a lot ! Great Work. I am really astonished to hear that you were to run a graphical desktop on the slug. Could you elaborate on that a little bit ? Thanks, -Michael -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org

Re: [Lazarus] FPC and Lazarus on ARM

2011-03-25 Thread Henry Vermaak
On 25/03/11 14:49, Marco van de Voort wrote: On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 10:06:47AM +, Henry Vermaak wrote: The latter is particularly interesting since it is effectively a desktop (sata + lots of USB + VGA). I'm planning to install the just new Fedora 13 and need to set up a crosscompile

Re: [Lazarus] FPC and Lazarus on ARM

2011-03-25 Thread Mark Morgan Lloyd
Marco van de Voort wrote: On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 10:06:47AM +, Henry Vermaak wrote: The latter is particularly interesting since it is effectively a desktop (sata + lots of USB + VGA). I'm planning to install the just new Fedora 13 and need to set up a crosscompile kernel. I've been

Re: [Lazarus] FPC and Lazarus on ARM

2011-03-25 Thread Mark Morgan Lloyd
Michael Schnell wrote: Thanks a lot ! Great Work. I am really astonished to hear that you were to run a graphical desktop on the slug. Could you elaborate on that a little bit ? No problem at all, but a note on administration to start with: every time one of my (Debian) systems boots, it

Re: [Lazarus] FPC and Lazarus on ARM

2011-03-25 Thread Marco van de Voort
On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 04:36:54PM +, Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote: I find that surprising, since I could run Debian's Mozilla on a 32Mb Slug /provided/ that I used FluxBox rather than KDE as the window manager. There is always a possibility that current browsers use vastly more resources

Re: [Lazarus] FPC and Lazarus on ARM

2011-03-25 Thread Marco van de Voort
On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 03:34:07PM +, Henry Vermaak wrote: The Cortex A8 (armv7) is 2 generations newer than the Kirkwood processor on open-rd (armv5). It's got almost twice the DMIPS/MHz. I'd be very surprised if it's slower. Interesting, do you have an URL to those benchmarks? --

Re: [Lazarus] FPC and Lazarus on ARM

2011-03-25 Thread Henry Vermaak
On 25 March 2011 18:33, Marco van de Voort mar...@stack.nl wrote: On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 03:34:07PM +, Henry Vermaak wrote: The Cortex A8 (armv7) is 2 generations newer than the Kirkwood processor on open-rd (armv5).  It's got almost twice the DMIPS/MHz.  I'd be very surprised if it's

Re: [Lazarus] FPC and Lazarus on ARM

2011-03-24 Thread Mark Morgan Lloyd
Tobias Giesen wrote: Hello, I now have a netbook computer with an ARM processor running Ubuntu. Ideally I would like to install FPC and Lazarus on it and do native ARM development. I wonder if it might be possible. Can I cross-compile FPC to get a native FPC running on ARM? Or at least can I

Re: [Lazarus] FPC and Lazarus on ARM

2011-03-24 Thread Michael Schnell
On 03/24/2011 08:55 AM, Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote: I run both FPC and Lazarus natively on ARM. There is a Wiki page about cross compiling. It would be great to have a wiki page on how to set up a native FPC environment on ARM/Linux. -Michael -- ___

Re: [Lazarus] FPC and Lazarus on ARM

2011-03-24 Thread Mark Morgan Lloyd
Michael Schnell wrote: On 03/24/2011 08:55 AM, Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote: I run both FPC and Lazarus natively on ARM. There is a Wiki page about cross compiling. It would be great to have a wiki page on how to set up a native FPC environment on ARM/Linux. e.g. an ARM-based development systems

Re: [Lazarus] FPC and Lazarus on ARM

2011-03-24 Thread Michael Schnell
On 03/24/2011 10:37 AM, Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote: e.g. an ARM-based development systems page referenced at http://wiki.lazarus.freepascal.org/Platform_list#Supported_targets_for_ARM leading to http://wiki.lazarus.freepascal.org/Linux_for_ARM which in fact leads to

Re: [Lazarus] FPC and Lazarus on ARM

2011-03-24 Thread Kjow
2011/3/24 Michael Schnell mschn...@lumino.de: http://wiki.lazarus.freepascal.org/Compile_and_Develop_on_Maemo_device which really shows how to get Lazarus working on an Arm-Linux device. I have no idea what is special about Maemo that might not apply to other Arm-Linux environments, so a

Re: [Lazarus] FPC and Lazarus on ARM

2011-03-24 Thread Michael Schnell
So I think that the wiki could be used to installa fpc/lazarus on any arm-linux platform. :) Sounds great. So maybe Mark could do some testing and enhance the text to be more general. -Michael -- ___ Lazarus mailing list

Re: [Lazarus] FPC and Lazarus on ARM

2011-03-24 Thread Mark Morgan Lloyd
Michael Schnell wrote: On 03/24/2011 10:37 AM, Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote: e.g. an ARM-based development systems page referenced at http://wiki.lazarus.freepascal.org/Platform_list#Supported_targets_for_ARM leading to http://wiki.lazarus.freepascal.org/Linux_for_ARM which in fact leads to

Re: [Lazarus] FPC and Lazarus on ARM

2011-03-24 Thread Mark Morgan Lloyd
Michael Schnell wrote: So I think that the wiki could be used to installa fpc/lazarus on any arm-linux platform. :) Sounds great. So maybe Mark could do some testing and enhance the text to be more general. I'll see what I can do, but it might be better if I started off by transcribing my

Re: [Lazarus] FPC and Lazarus on ARM

2011-03-24 Thread Michael Schnell
On 03/24/2011 02:22 PM, Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote: I think that the one thing I'd caution is that NFS is poor at handling symlinks, and I'm not sure where it stands on locking. If you have a server setup that uses symlinks or a client app that requires locking then it might be safer to

Re: [Lazarus] FPC and Lazarus on ARM

2011-03-24 Thread Den Jean
On Thursday 24 March 2011 12:58:40 Kjow wrote: Maemo/MeeGo are arm-linux distro, maemo is based on debian meego on fedora. So I think that the wiki could be used to installa fpc/lazarus on any arm-linux platform. :) This one also contains arm platform instructions

Re: [Lazarus] FPC and Lazarus on ARM

2011-03-23 Thread Kjow
2011/3/23 Tobias Giesen tobias_subscri...@tgtools.com: Or at least can I cross-compile my app? The target will be ARM-Ubuntu, not ARM-WinCE ;=) http://wiki.lazarus.freepascal.org/Setup_Cross_Compile_For_ARM -- ___ Lazarus mailing list