Re: [Lazarus] Reconstructing Lazarus Website 4: the dev tool

2010-02-03 Thread Bee Jay
1. Wiki, it's already available. Maybe we should reconstructure the content so they could be better categorized. 2. Bug tracker, it's already available using Mantis. Maybe we should fix the appearance so its theme could fit the new design. 3. Source code browser, it's already available using

Re: [Lazarus] Reconstructing Lazarus Website 4: the dev tool

2010-02-02 Thread Bee Jay
If you mean in FPC, count me in :) From the content structure that I proposed on the other thread, we need some applications to accompany the web site. 1. Wiki, it's already available. Maybe we should reconstructure the content so they could be better categorized. 2. Bug tracker, it's

Re: [Lazarus] Reconstructing Lazarus Website 4: the dev tool

2010-02-02 Thread Bee Jay
On Feb 2, 2010, at 6:05 PM, Michael Van Canneyt wrote: 4. Contributed code repo, it's already available through Contributed Units on FPC site. I think we should build a new one for this using fpWeb. I was planning to do so. I will also rewrite the testsuite tool. Great news. This is a

Re: [Lazarus] Reconstructing Lazarus Website 4: the dev tool

2010-02-02 Thread Bee Jay
1. Wiki, it's already available. Maybe we should reconstructure the content so they could be better categorized. 2. Bug tracker, it's already available using Mantis. Maybe we should fix the appearance so its theme could fit the new design. 3. Source code browser, it's already available using

Re: [Lazarus] Reconstructing Lazarus Website 4: the dev tool

2010-02-02 Thread Michael Van Canneyt
On Tue, 2 Feb 2010, Bee Jay wrote: 1. Wiki, it's already available. Maybe we should reconstructure the content so they could be better categorized. 2. Bug tracker, it's already available using Mantis. Maybe we should fix the appearance so its theme could fit the new design. 3. Source code

Re: [Lazarus] Reconstructing Lazarus Website 4: the dev tool

2010-02-02 Thread Bee Jay
On Feb 2, 2010, at 6:38 PM, Michael Van Canneyt wrote: One more thing: 8. Account integrator. Since we have many applications for the website i.e. wiki, forum, mantis, svn, etc. I think we should make one app to synchronized a single account across those apps. So, the user would only

Re: [Lazarus] Reconstructing Lazarus Website 4: the dev tool

2010-02-02 Thread Paul Ishenin
02.02.2010 17:56, Bee Jay wrote: 5. Code bounty manager, it's not available, only a page on Wiki. I think we should build a new app for this for more accountable participants. This app could become a way to boost FPC and Lazarus development. Maybe bounty field can be added to the bug-tracker.

Re: [Lazarus] Reconstructing Lazarus Website 4: the dev tool

2010-02-02 Thread Marc Weustink
Michael Van Canneyt wrote: On Tue, 2 Feb 2010, Bee Jay wrote: 8. Account integrator. Since we have many applications for the website i.e. wiki, forum, mantis, svn, etc. I think we should make one app to synchronized a single account across those apps. So, the user would only remember 1

Re: [Lazarus] Reconstructing Lazarus Website 4: the dev tool

2010-02-02 Thread Bee Jay
On Feb 2, 2010, at 7:05 PM, Paul Ishenin wrote: Maybe bounty field can be added to the bug-tracker. So if a reporter want to pay some money for the issue he/she can fill that field? Anyway, bounties does not differ from regular issues - just reporter want to pay to speedup the solution.

Re: [Lazarus] Reconstructing Lazarus Website 4: the dev tool

2010-02-02 Thread Paul Ishenin
02.02.2010 19:18, Bee Jay wrote: Good idea. But, IMO, it should be put upfront instead of hidden beneath the mantis system. It will ease people who want to donate to the development, not just for technical things, but for other non technical things as well e.g. creating a tutorial, writing an

Re: [Lazarus] Reconstructing Lazarus Website 4: the dev tool

2010-01-31 Thread Alex du Plessis
2010/1/31 Zaher Dirkey parm...@gmail.com On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 9:20 AM, Graeme Geldenhuys graemeg.li...@gmail.com wrote: On 31 January 2010 01:52, Marc Weustink m...@dommelstein.net wrote: If it is to be for the FPC website too, then Firebird is a must. When talking databases, I'd

Re: [Lazarus] Reconstructing Lazarus Website 4: the dev tool

2010-01-31 Thread Paul Ishenin
31.01.2010 6:51, Marc Weustink wrote: I vote against any yet another complex to be hacked php site. So if we do something then I either prefer to something fpweb or keep the current engine. (and I'm serious about that) What is fpWeb? Some pascal web framework. Framework is not a cms so to

Re: [Lazarus] Reconstructing Lazarus Website 4: the dev tool

2010-01-31 Thread Paul Ishenin
31.01.2010 6:52, Marc Weustink wrote: When talking databeses, I'd prefer Postgresql. Postresql maybe a good database engine but Firebird is the better choise since it is related to Borland. Borland is related to pascal, pascal to fpc, and fpc to lazarus :) Best regards, Paul Ishenin. --

Re: [Lazarus] Reconstructing Lazarus Website 4: the dev tool

2010-01-31 Thread theo
Hmm, the fact that this thread already has a lot of messages but the content thread (which it is all about imho) has not recieved one answer makes me a bit sceptical about this project... ;-) -- ___ Lazarus mailing list

Re: [Lazarus] Reconstructing Lazarus Website 4: the dev tool

2010-01-31 Thread Michael Van Canneyt
On Sun, 31 Jan 2010, Marc Weustink wrote: Michael Van Canneyt wrote: On Sat, 30 Jan 2010, Paul Ishenin wrote: 30.01.2010 23:00, Bee Jay wrote: For development reason, I still prefer fpWeb. Yes, we would reinvent the wheel, if we say in CMS world as there are many ready-to-use CMS out

Re: [Lazarus] Reconstructing Lazarus Website 4: the dev tool

2010-01-31 Thread Doug Chamberlin
On 1/31/2010 4:58 AM, theo wrote: Hmm, the fact that this thread already has a lot of messages but the content thread (which it is all about imho) has not recieved one answer makes me a bit sceptical about this project... ;-) Yes, it seems like people are just recommending the database they

Re: [Lazarus] Reconstructing Lazarus Website 4: the dev tool

2010-01-31 Thread Joost van der Sluis
The companies around me that makes the best websites, don't use CMS's anymore. And if they do they do not use on of the standard ones, but one of their own. That's because a good website begins with the design. And all CMS-systems lay rules on how the design should look like. If you want to

Re: [Lazarus] Reconstructing Lazarus Website 4: the dev tool

2010-01-31 Thread Michael Van Canneyt
On Sun, 31 Jan 2010, Joost van der Sluis wrote: The companies around me that makes the best websites, don't use CMS's anymore. And if they do they do not use on of the standard ones, but one of their own. That's because a good website begins with the design. And all CMS-systems lay rules on

Re: [Lazarus] Reconstructing Lazarus Website 4: the dev tool

2010-01-31 Thread silvioprog
Em 31-01-2010 04:58, zeljko escreveu: On Sunday 31 January 2010 00:52, Marc Weustink wrote: When talking databeses, I'd prefer Postgresql. +1 zeljko +1. -- Silvio Clécio -- Contato - silvioproggmail/googlewave Blog estilo mural - silvioclecio.blogspot.com Twitter - twitter.com/silvioprog

Re: [Lazarus] Reconstructing Lazarus Website 4: the dev tool

2010-01-31 Thread waldo kitty
On 1/31/2010 04:58, theo wrote: Hmm, the fact that this thread already has a lot of messages but the content thread (which it is all about imho) has not recieved one answer makes me a bit sceptical about this project... ;-) maybe the problem is that the discussion is not subject line oriented

Re: [Lazarus] Reconstructing Lazarus Website 4: the dev tool

2010-01-31 Thread John
theo wrote: Hmm, the fact that this thread already has a lot of messages but the content thread (which it is all about imho) has not recieved one answer makes me a bit sceptical about this project... ;-) If I try to remember where all this started, it was the lack of a simple welcome page

Re: [Lazarus] Reconstructing Lazarus Website 4: the dev tool

2010-01-30 Thread Michael Van Canneyt
On Sat, 30 Jan 2010, Bee Jay wrote: Hi all, One more thing, but this is optional, we should give the decision to the one who are gonna do the real work: what tool are we going to use to serve the backend? PHP? Wordpress? Joomla? fpWeb? Honestly, I expect it would be build using fpWeb.

Re: [Lazarus] Reconstructing Lazarus Website 4: the dev tool

2010-01-30 Thread Bee Jay
At the very least, this point has my vote :-) I'll contribute my yunior designer work on this effort. I'll confirm this by Monday. I'll personally supervise his work. He's able to produce the HTML, CSS, and required JS for the design. So, it's only the front-end part. Would you do the

Re: [Lazarus] Reconstructing Lazarus Website 4: the dev tool

2010-01-30 Thread Paul Ishenin
30.01.2010 23:00, Bee Jay wrote: For development reason, I still prefer fpWeb. Yes, we would reinvent the wheel, if we say in CMS world as there are many ready-to-use CMS out there, though mostly build using PHP (and mysql). But, in pascal world, it maybe the first CMS that's build using

Re: [Lazarus] Reconstructing Lazarus Website 4: the dev tool

2010-01-30 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
On 30 January 2010 18:00, Bee Jay bee.ogra...@gmail.com wrote: and showcase for FPC/Lazarus. And for the database, personally, I much prefer Firebird, for many reasons. But, again, that's me. +1 here. Firebird is so much better than MySQL. I really don't understand the hype around MySQL. --

Re: [Lazarus] Reconstructing Lazarus Website 4: the dev tool

2010-01-30 Thread Michael Van Canneyt
On Sat, 30 Jan 2010, Paul Ishenin wrote: 30.01.2010 23:00, Bee Jay wrote: For development reason, I still prefer fpWeb. Yes, we would reinvent the wheel, if we say in CMS world as there are many ready-to-use CMS out there, though mostly build using PHP (and mysql). But, in pascal world, it

Re: [Lazarus] Reconstructing Lazarus Website 4: the dev tool

2010-01-30 Thread Marc Weustink
Paul Ishenin wrote: 30.01.2010 21:34, Bee Jay wrote: One more thing, but this is optional, we should give the decision to the one who are gonna do the real work: what tool are we going to use to serve the backend? PHP? Wordpress? Joomla? fpWeb? Honestly, I expect it would be build using

Re: [Lazarus] Reconstructing Lazarus Website 4: the dev tool

2010-01-30 Thread Marc Weustink
Michael Van Canneyt wrote: On Sat, 30 Jan 2010, Paul Ishenin wrote: 30.01.2010 23:00, Bee Jay wrote: For development reason, I still prefer fpWeb. Yes, we would reinvent the wheel, if we say in CMS world as there are many ready-to-use CMS out there, though mostly build using PHP (and

Re: [Lazarus] Reconstructing Lazarus Website 4: the dev tool

2010-01-30 Thread waldo kitty
On 1/30/2010 18:51, Marc Weustink wrote: Paul Ishenin wrote: 30.01.2010 21:34, Bee Jay wrote: One more thing, but this is optional, we should give the decision to the one who are gonna do the real work: what tool are we going to use to serve the backend? PHP? Wordpress? Joomla? fpWeb?

Re: [Lazarus] Reconstructing Lazarus Website 4: the dev tool

2010-01-30 Thread Zaher Dirkey
Before use pascal (fbWeb or others), you must ask how many users will use it in the future (use the project in there site), because those user will improves the project by send bugs and patches. SY, Zaher Dirkey -- ___ Lazarus mailing list

Re: [Lazarus] Reconstructing Lazarus Website 4: the dev tool

2010-01-30 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
On 31 January 2010 01:52, Marc Weustink m...@dommelstein.net wrote: If it is to be for the FPC website too, then Firebird is a must. When talking databases, I'd prefer Postgresql. Postgresql eluded me for many years (I don't know why). I was pleasantly surprised when I took a look at

Re: [Lazarus] Reconstructing Lazarus Website 4: the dev tool

2010-01-30 Thread Zaher Dirkey
On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 9:20 AM, Graeme Geldenhuys graemeg.li...@gmail.comwrote: On 31 January 2010 01:52, Marc Weustink m...@dommelstein.net wrote: If it is to be for the FPC website too, then Firebird is a must. When talking databases, I'd prefer Postgresql. Postgresql eluded me for

Re: [Lazarus] Reconstructing Lazarus Website 4: the dev tool

2010-01-30 Thread Dave Coventry
2010/1/31 Zaher Dirkey parm...@gmail.com: Firebird has less features than Postgresql but Postgresql has bad client (for me), I prefer FirebirdSQL. If you're going to use Drupal, then I think the options are MySQL or Postgres. Personally I don't like MySQL; I think it's weaker than Postgres.

Re: [Lazarus] Reconstructing Lazarus Website 4: the dev tool

2010-01-30 Thread zeljko
On Sunday 31 January 2010 00:52, Marc Weustink wrote: When talking databeses, I'd prefer Postgresql. +1 zeljko -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus