On Friday 27 December 2013 02:36:22 Marcos Douglas wrote:
On Thu, Dec 26, 2013 at 6:06 AM, Martin Schreiber mse00...@gmail.com
there are no implicit type conversions in MSElang.
floatvariable:= floatvalue + integervalue;
string8variable:= string8value + string16value;
will not
Hi gyus,
i use DCPcrypt in my project and found out that the rijndael cipher
gives different results in Lazarus 1.2 than the results i got in Lazarus
1.0
truth is that i didn't have any time to examine and maybe i won't in the
next few days so if anyone wants to look into it before the
On 12/24/2013 02:10 PM, Michael Van Ham wrote:
On Mon, Dec 23, 2013 at 1:36 PM, Alexsander Rosa
alexsander.r...@gmail.com wrote:
Just ran the getlaz shell, it tried to install an old version:
Os NOVOS pacotes a seguir serão instalados:
fp-compiler fp-compiler-2.6.0 fpc fpc-2.6.0 fpc-source
Sven Barth schrieb:
The compiler can already parse UTF-8 files with strings and comments
being real UTF-8 texts which can be seen as such inside an editor. AFAIK
it can even handle UTF-16 files (though I'm not entirely sure about
this). What it however does definitely not allow (and none of
Sven Barth schrieb:
On 26.12.2013 17:02, Sven Barth wrote:
Am 26.12.2013 12:30 schrieb Hans-Peter Diettrich drdiettri...@aol.com
mailto:drdiettri...@aol.com:
Sven Barth schrieb:
Am 26.12.2013 02:19 schrieb Hans-Peter Diettrich
drdiettri...@aol.com mailto:drdiettri...@aol.com
Juha Manninen schrieb:
It happened again. The word Unicode was mentioned and the result is
an endless debate of how it should be done. Now 100 messages and
counting ...
Now that we are in pre-release of strings with Encoding, the debate
enters a very new round.
I personally don't care
Chris Crori wrote:
Hi gyus,
i use DCPcrypt in my project and found out that the rijndael cipher
gives different results in Lazarus 1.2 than the results i got in Lazarus
1.0
truth is that i didn't have any time to examine and maybe i won't in
the next few days so if anyone wants to look
Marco van de Voort schrieb:
On Thu, Dec 26, 2013 at 12:28:54AM +0100, Hans-Peter Diettrich wrote:
is dangerous if they are not all the same encoding. If there is any
mismatch, it will be converted down to default encoding.
Then the implementation is wrong.
Wrong according to you.
Wrong, or
On Thu, Dec 26, 2013 at 04:48:34PM +0200, Juha Manninen wrote:
It happened again. The word Unicode was mentioned and the result is
an endless debate of how it should be done. Now 100 messages and
counting ...
This is because still nothing definitive is chosen, after 4+ years of
discussion
On Thu, Dec 26, 2013 at 11:53:38PM -0200, Marcos Douglas wrote:
If you totally drop Delphi compatibility you can do whatever you want. But
IMHO that is more something for the Graeme's and Martin (MSEGUI's) of the
world, not Lazarus.
Ok... but if FPC, on Windows, will be UTF-16 and Lazarus
On 26/12/2013 17:54, Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote:
Reinier Olislagers wrote:
On 26/12/2013 10:11, Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote:
Reinier Olislagers wrote:
On 26/12/2013 09:26, Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote:
Reinier Olislagers wrote:
I think the first example has lost its bit about being based on fcl-res,
On 2013-12-27 09:45, Chris Crori wrote:
i use DCPcrypt in my project and found out that the rijndael cipher
gives different results in Lazarus 1.2 than the results i got in Lazarus
1.0
Some questions:
1) Did you use the same FPC versions? FPC Trunk has had some major
changes
On 2013-12-27 09:45, Chris Crori wrote:
i use DCPcrypt in my project and found out that the rijndael cipher
gives different results in Lazarus 1.2 than the results i got in Lazarus
1.0
Also as Mark mentioned... Some test code with expected results would be
very valuable in debugging
On 27/12/2013 13:01, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote:
On 2013-12-27 09:45, Chris Crori wrote:
i use DCPcrypt in my project and found out that the rijndael cipher
gives different results in Lazarus 1.2 than the results i got in Lazarus
1.0
Also as Mark mentioned... Some test code with
On 2013-12-27 09:16, Hans-Peter Diettrich wrote:
But
when string becomes UTF-16, as in recent Delphi versions, Lazarus and
the LCL deserves heavy refactoring. That's the top discussion topic
right now.
Personally I think FPC and Lazarus should get rid of string
altogether! It should be a
On Thu, 26 Dec 2013 23:54:05 +
Graeme Geldenhuys gra...@geldenhuys.co.uk wrote:
On 2013-12-26 17:29, Alexsander Rosa wrote:
Target OS: Linux for i386
Compiling lazcontrols.pas
Compiling treefilteredit.pas
treefilteredit.pas(28,48) Error: Illegal expression
treefilteredit.pas(28,48)
make[2]: Entrando no diretório
`/home/alexsander/fontes/ambiente/lazarus/components/lazcontrols'
/bin/rm -f lib/i386-linux/nogui/lazcontrols.ppu
/usr/bin/ppc386 -MObjFPC -Scghi -O1 -g -gl -vewnhi -l -dLCL -dLCLnogui
-Fu../../lcl/units/i386-linux/nogui -Fu../../lcl/units/i386-linux
Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote:
Marco van de Voort wrote:
On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 05:11:29PM +, Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote:
I know that this is not a supported combination, but I've just been
trying to build trunk Lazarus (r43576) with trunk FPC (r26258) to see
if I can work around a couple of
On Fri, 27 Dec 2013 15:35:12 +0200, Mark Morgan Lloyd
markmll.laza...@telemetry.co.uk wrote:
Graeme Geldenhuys wrote:
On 2013-12-27 09:45, Chris Crori wrote:
i use DCPcrypt in my project and found out that the rijndael
cipher gives different results in Lazarus 1.2 than the results i
Am 2013-12-27 12:21, schrieb Marco van de Voort:
The current situation really worries me, since at work I invested in
FPC/Lazarus in the assumption that compatibility would increase, not decrease.
I think that's the root cause of the discussion:
Some want to make FPC/Lazarus into a (possibly
On 2013-12-27 17:11, Jürgen Hestermann wrote:
Some want to make FPC/Lazarus into a (possibly exact) clone of
Delphi (which means to follow every sh*t that is and will be put into this
product)
and others (like me) hope for a more Pascal like programming environment
which at least avoids
On 2013-12-27 13:42, Marco van de Voort wrote:
Please read 4 years of discussion backlog. It is not all language, there is
something called
libraries, and they are generally installed precompiled.
I don't know of a single ISV that ships precompiled *.ppu files for FPC
or Lazarus. They all
On 27/12/2013 18:34, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote:
On 2013-12-27 13:42, Marco van de Voort wrote:
Please read 4 years of discussion backlog. It is not all language, there is
something called
libraries, and they are generally installed precompiled.
I don't know of a single ISV that ships
On 2013-12-27 12:10, Reinier Olislagers wrote:
Especially if those are FPCUnit... pardon FPTest (I suppose) tests ;)
Either of those will be great, but just having a few lines of sample
code with expected results would also suffice.
OT: Graeme, have you read this:
On 27/12/2013 19:10, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote:
On 2013-12-27 12:10, Reinier Olislagers wrote:
Especially if those are FPCUnit... pardon FPTest (I suppose) tests ;)
Either of those will be great, but just having a few lines of sample
code with expected results would also suffice.
Noticed
On 2013-12-27 18:12, Reinier Olislagers wrote:
Noticed there's a selftest built into Rijndael, so that's something
Ah yes, definitely a start. A set of standard unit tests seems like a
good thing to add too.
I also see I need to update the project's README file. It's way out of
date, and
Am 27.12.2013 11:42 schrieb Hans-Peter Diettrich drdiettri...@aol.com:
Sven Barth schrieb:
The compiler can already parse UTF-8 files with strings and comments
being real UTF-8 texts which can be seen as such inside an editor. AFAIK it
can even handle UTF-16 files (though I'm not entirely
On Fri, Dec 27, 2013 at 05:34:33PM +, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote:
Please read 4 years of discussion backlog. It is not all language, there is
something called
libraries, and they are generally installed precompiled.
I don't know of a single ISV that ships precompiled *.ppu files for FPC
On Fri, Dec 27, 2013 at 06:11:31PM +0100, J?rgen Hestermann wrote:
I think that's the root cause of the discussion:
Some want to make FPC/Lazarus into a (possibly exact) clone of
Delphi (which means to follow every sh*t that is and will be put into this
product)
I always think it is
On Fri, Dec 27, 2013 at 3:38 PM, Graeme Geldenhuys
gra...@geldenhuys.co.uk wrote:
On 2013-12-27 17:11, Jürgen Hestermann wrote:
Some want to make FPC/Lazarus into a (possibly exact) clone of
Delphi (which means to follow every sh*t that is and will be put into this
product)
and others (like
On Fri, Dec 27, 2013 at 06:39:38PM -0200, Marcos Douglas wrote:
If we continue to follow Delphi, means that we are always one step behind.
If we stop following delphi, we are multiple steps behind.
Most of the antis only agree on being anti, they only have simplistic
topdown proposals and talk
On 2013-12-27 21:12, Marco van de Voort wrote:
Fact is that the extensions of FPC are used much less than the Delphi
compatibility aspect.
And would you mind sharing how you came to that conclusion? Can you
share the data on that research?
From my personal experience of using FPC since
On Fri, Dec 27, 2013 at 10:43:16PM +, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote:
Fact is that the extensions of FPC are used much less than the Delphi
compatibility aspect.
And would you mind sharing how you came to that conclusion? Can you
share the data on that research?
Just look on e.g. the forums.
perjantai 27. joulukuuta 2013 Marcos Douglas kirjoitti:
I think Lazarus team did not think the same.
Lazarus team has not thought it much. The question is not acute yet and we
already have a working Unicode system in LCL. Thinking of it now when
--
On 2013-12-27 22:49, Marco van de Voort wrote:
Just look on e.g. the forums. All people are asking about Delphi packages.
And once those Delphi packages are ported to Free Pascal, nobody needs
Delphi any more. ;-)
Point is if you make conversion harder PEOPLE WILL NOT EVEN TRY!
Converting
Lazarus team has not thought it much. The question is not acute yet and we
already have a working Unicode system in LCL. Thinking of it now when FPC
behavior is not decided would be waste of time.
My comment about UTF-8 was based on poor knowledge and maybe wishfull
thinking.
Some other Lazarus
Marco van de Voort schrieb:
On Fri, Dec 27, 2013 at 06:39:38PM -0200, Marcos Douglas wrote:
If we continue to follow Delphi, means that we are always one step behind.
If we stop following delphi, we are multiple steps behind.
FPC/Lazarus always was in front of Delphi. It had Unicode support
On Fri, Dec 27, 2013 at 11:07:02PM +, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote:
Just look on e.g. the forums. All people are asking about Delphi packages.
And once those Delphi packages are ported to Free Pascal, nobody needs
Delphi any more. ;-)
Somehow there is still more Delphi use than Lazarus, so
On Sat, Dec 28, 2013 at 12:42:22AM +0100, Hans-Peter Diettrich wrote:
If we continue to follow Delphi, means that we are always one step behind.
If we stop following delphi, we are multiple steps behind.
FPC/Lazarus always was in front of Delphi. It had Unicode support
(UTF-8) since
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