Re: [Lazarus] SourceEditor: strange gap on right hand side

2012-02-29 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
On 29 February 2012 08:59, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote: Now this is going to be very useful, though I would have to get used to how it is displayed... a bit confusing at first. From your screenshot it looked confusing, but actually using it in practice, it works very well. Awesome feature! Thank

Re: [Lazarus] Can't compile trunk with fpc 2.4.5 under ubuntu

2012-02-29 Thread Martin Schreiber
On Wednesday, 29. February 2012 08.55:55 Michael Schnell wrote: On 02/28/2012 04:13 PM, Sven Barth wrote: And instead of introducing yet another type or another special encoding we could just leverage the features FPC has today and use TBytes. I agree, if all features are in place: -

Re: [Lazarus] Why the Java became so strong?

2012-02-29 Thread Michael Schnell
On 02/28/2012 04:20 PM, Massimo Soricetti wrote: I agree absolutely. Trying to use a complex entity as Lazarus+FPC+LCL+packages without extensive documentation it's a delusion, and this should be obvious to every programmer in the world nowadays. Here, very recently, has been a very

Re: [Lazarus] Why the Java became so strong?

2012-02-29 Thread Michael Schnell
On 02/28/2012 05:25 PM, William Oliveira Ferreira wrote: sometimes all lazarus' users wanna see core team do something that themselves can Of course there are many outside the core team who would be able and willing to help improving the documentation. But to allow them to do this, there

Re: [Lazarus] SourceEditor: strange gap on right hand side

2012-02-29 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
2012/2/28 Martin : It can be switched on and off in the IDE options. It does show (for the entire file): - position of breakpoints - position of bookmarks - changes (unsaved/saved) per line - implementation/interface/initialization (shaded grey) - current visible page (shaded grey) I

Re: [Lazarus] Missing Documentation

2012-02-29 Thread Michael Schnell
On 02/28/2012 08:06 PM, Mattias Gaertner wrote: If you want to write some help about an IDE dialog: Use F1 to open the wiki page. If it does not open, or opens the wrong page, just write an email, so I can fix it. If this happens rather often this is no possible way to go. And it it does

Re: [Lazarus] Project management

2012-02-29 Thread Michael Schnell
On 02/28/2012 10:59 PM, Hans-Peter Diettrich wrote: What's missing from the current documentation tools? After doing an addition to the help sources (supposedly using FPDoc, I did not yet try to use it, but found the discussions on your recent improvements to it very encouraging), how to

[Lazarus] Is FreeBSD supported?

2012-02-29 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
Hi, From the following website, it mentions that FreeBSD is supported, but there is no FreeBSD download available. http://sourceforge.net/projects/lazarus/ It shouldn't be a problem building my own, but it is always handy having an official binary release available as a starting point. I'm

Re: [Lazarus] Is FreeBSD supported?

2012-02-29 Thread Vincent Snijders
Op 29 februari 2012 09:47 heeft Graeme Geldenhuys graemeg.li...@gmail.com het volgende geschreven: Hi, From the following website, it mentions that FreeBSD is supported, but there is no FreeBSD download available. http://sourceforge.net/projects/lazarus/ It is supported, but there are no

Re: [Lazarus] Is FreeBSD supported?

2012-02-29 Thread Vincent Snijders
Op 29 februari 2012 09:47 heeft Graeme Geldenhuys graemeg.li...@gmail.com het volgende geschreven: Hi, From the following website, it mentions that FreeBSD is supported, but there is no FreeBSD download available. http://sourceforge.net/projects/lazarus/ It shouldn't be a problem building

Re: [Lazarus] Missing Documentation

2012-02-29 Thread Mattias Gaertner
On Wed, 29 Feb 2012 09:34:14 +0100 Michael Schnell mschn...@lumino.de wrote: On 02/28/2012 08:06 PM, Mattias Gaertner wrote: If you want to write some help about an IDE dialog: Use F1 to open the wiki page. If it does not open, or opens the wrong page, just write an email, so I can fix

Re: [Lazarus] Missing Documentation

2012-02-29 Thread Michael Schnell
On 02/29/2012 09:57 AM, Mattias Gaertner wrote: It is since many years. Have you seen any secondary help for the dialogs? I don't understand what you mean. I think there should be single source for online and offline help. Everything else obviously is not manageable at all. (In fact I don't

Re: [Lazarus] Missing Documentation

2012-02-29 Thread Michael Schnell
On 02/29/2012 10:23 AM, Michael Schnell wrote: (Many thanks to DoDi for trying to get involved!). Many thanks to Graeme as well ! -Michael -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org

Re: [Lazarus] Is FreeBSD supported?

2012-02-29 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
On 29 February 2012 10:54, Vincent Snijders wrote: http://sourceforge.net/projects/lazarus/ It is supported, but there are no binary releases. FreeBSD user can use the source tar ball. Thanks Vincent. -- Regards,   - Graeme - ___ fpGUI - a

Re: [Lazarus] Is FreeBSD supported?

2012-02-29 Thread Helmut Hartl
Am 29.02.12 10:28, schrieb Graeme Geldenhuys: On 29 February 2012 10:54, Vincent Snijders wrote: http://sourceforge.net/projects/lazarus/ It is supported, but there are no binary releases. FreeBSD user can use the source tar ball. Thanks Vincent. We use Laz/FPC in our FreeBSD

Re: [Lazarus] Missing Documentation

2012-02-29 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
On 29 February 2012 10:57, Mattias Gaertner wrote: Have you seen any secondary help for the dialogs? How do you hook into the IDE dialog help system? Is this by registering yet another help package? How would the IDE decide between a HTML, CHM or INF help system for the dialogs in the IDE?

Re: [Lazarus] Missing Documentation

2012-02-29 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
On 29 February 2012 10:57, Mattias Gaertner wrote: Have you seen any secondary help for the dialogs? And, what's the point is me doing an HTML (from the wiki) to INF conversion, and then the next day somebody updates the wiki pages again. The INF (or CHM) help would always be out of date. So

Re: [Lazarus] Is FreeBSD supported?

2012-02-29 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
On 29 February 2012 11:37, Helmut Hartl wrote: We use Laz/FPC in our FreeBSD company development team since years, Excellent news, thanks. You may get trouble with threaded applications crashing with fpc 2.6, and FreeBSD 9 which comes from a bad/incomplete semaphore definition IIRC.

Re: [Lazarus] Is FreeBSD supported?

2012-02-29 Thread Miquel Bruns
look: http://www.pilotlogic.com/sitejoom/index.php/forum/79-bsd-development/1516-lab-codetyphon-on-freebsd-9-0-final On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 10:48 AM, Graeme Geldenhuys graemeg.li...@gmail.com wrote: On 29 February 2012 11:37, Helmut Hartl wrote: We use Laz/FPC in our FreeBSD company

Re: [Lazarus] Project management

2012-02-29 Thread Juha Manninen
Sorry, I will return to you guys later about the project management issues. I am busy for some time now. I try to pick the essential parts. You could also think of the details of how to implement some things. Regards, Juha -- ___ Lazarus mailing list

Re: [Lazarus] Missing Documentation

2012-02-29 Thread Mattias Gaertner
On Wed, 29 Feb 2012 10:23:18 +0100 Michael Schnell mschn...@lumino.de wrote: On 02/29/2012 09:57 AM, Mattias Gaertner wrote: It is since many years. Have you seen any secondary help for the dialogs? I don't understand what you mean. I think there should be single source for online and

Re: [Lazarus] Missing Documentation

2012-02-29 Thread Mattias Gaertner
On Wed, 29 Feb 2012 11:39:32 +0200 Graeme Geldenhuys graemeg.li...@gmail.com wrote: On 29 February 2012 10:57, Mattias Gaertner wrote: Have you seen any secondary help for the dialogs? How do you hook into the IDE dialog help system? Is this by registering yet another help package?

Re: [Lazarus] Can't compile trunk with fpc 2.4.5 under ubuntu

2012-02-29 Thread Marco van de Voort
On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 08:44:20AM +0100, Michael Schnell wrote: it incompatible with other encodings, and thus disables all conversions. Such an encoding doesn't break Delphi compatibility, but allows to use all stringhandling functions with it. The colleague I mentioned told me that

Re: [Lazarus] Missing Documentation

2012-02-29 Thread Michael Schnell
On 02/29/2012 11:10 AM, Mattias Gaertner wrote: I started it. Please elaborate. Is the wiki supposed to be the upcoming help source, thus invalidating FPDoc and friends ? In fact I don't have a decent opinion on whether this is a good idea, but I do recommend considering the implications

Re: [Lazarus] Missing Documentation

2012-02-29 Thread Mattias Gaertner
On Wed, 29 Feb 2012 11:43:46 +0200 Graeme Geldenhuys graemeg.li...@gmail.com wrote: On 29 February 2012 10:57, Mattias Gaertner wrote: Have you seen any secondary help for the dialogs? And, what's the point is me doing an HTML (from the wiki) to INF conversion, and then the next day

Re: [Lazarus] Missing Documentation

2012-02-29 Thread Michael Schnell
On 02/29/2012 11:17 AM, Mattias Gaertner wrote: How do you hook into the IDE dialog help system? Is this by registering yet another help package? Yes. How would the IDE decide between a HTML, CHM or INF help system for the dialogs in the IDE? Whatever the user installs. This is nice (for the

Re: [Lazarus] Missing Documentation

2012-02-29 Thread Michael Schnell
On 02/29/2012 11:26 AM, Mattias Gaertner wrote: The wiki is frequently edited by many people and already contains more than 2500 pages. It makes no sense to shut it down. But if there is no way to keep it in sync with the FPDoc files, how is the future of either considered to be ? -Michael

Re: [Lazarus] Missing Documentation

2012-02-29 Thread Mattias Gaertner
On Wed, 29 Feb 2012 11:24:31 +0100 Michael Schnell mschn...@lumino.de wrote: On 02/29/2012 11:10 AM, Mattias Gaertner wrote: I started it. Please elaborate. I started a tool to download the wiki and convert it to other formats. I'm still evaluating possibilities. Is the wiki supposed to

Re: [Lazarus] Missing Documentation

2012-02-29 Thread Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho
On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 10:43 AM, Graeme Geldenhuys graemeg.li...@gmail.com wrote: And, what's the point is me doing an HTML (from the wiki) to INF conversion, and then the next day somebody updates the wiki pages again. The INF (or CHM) help would always be out of date. I think it would be

Re: [Lazarus] Missing Documentation

2012-02-29 Thread Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho
On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 11:34 AM, Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho felipemonteiro.carva...@gmail.com wrote: If you can contribute something which can generate such a wiki to CHM conversion, then I suppose it could be repeated in the future with much less work then the first time. Aha, I missed

Re: [Lazarus] Missing Documentation

2012-02-29 Thread Sven Barth
Am 29.02.2012 11:33, schrieb Michael Schnell: On 02/29/2012 11:26 AM, Mattias Gaertner wrote: The wiki is frequently edited by many people and already contains more than 2500 pages. It makes no sense to shut it down. But if there is no way to keep it in sync with the FPDoc files, how is the

Re: [Lazarus] Can't compile trunk with fpc 2.4.5 under ubuntu

2012-02-29 Thread Michael Schnell
On 02/29/2012 11:24 AM, Marco van de Voort wrote: No that is ansistring, with various values filled in for codepage. The default codepage can be set to the system 1-byte encoding (ansi), and then it is the same as the D7 one. string is unicodestring, and that is always utf16. Taking a brief

Re: [Lazarus] Is FreeBSD supported?

2012-02-29 Thread Marco van de Voort
On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 09:54:23AM +0100, Vincent Snijders wrote: From the following website, it mentions that FreeBSD is supported, but there is no FreeBSD download available. http://sourceforge.net/projects/lazarus/ It is supported, but there are no binary releases. FreeBSD user can

Re: [Lazarus] Is FreeBSD supported?

2012-02-29 Thread Marco van de Voort
On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 10:37:19AM +0100, Helmut Hartl wrote: You may get trouble with threaded applications crashing with fpc 2.6, and FreeBSD 9 which comes from a bad/incomplete semaphore definition IIRC. Did you debug that yourself? I didn't merge it because the patch doesn't look sane to

Re: [Lazarus] Missing Documentation

2012-02-29 Thread Michael Schnell
On 02/29/2012 11:33 AM, Mattias Gaertner wrote: Is the wiki supposed to be the upcoming help source, thus invalidating FPDoc and friends ? Are you kidding? fpdoc is great. There only can be a single source for the help so either FPDoc or directly managing the Wiki kontent is great not both.

Re: [Lazarus] Missing Documentation

2012-02-29 Thread Michael Schnell
On 02/29/2012 12:08 PM, Sven Barth wrote: The Wiki is used for documenting e.g. the usage of the IDE. You can't do this using FPDoc. This would mean that there never will be any offline help for Lazarus users. That would really be a bad thing. -Michael --

Re: [Lazarus] Missing Documentation

2012-02-29 Thread Michael Schnell
On 02/29/2012 11:34 AM, Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho wrote: I think it would be perfectly fine to generate 1 new offline IDE CHM for each release and ship Lazarus with it. This discussion is about how to enable non-core members to help improving the docs. Your claim would prevent this as the

Re: [Lazarus] Missing Documentation

2012-02-29 Thread Sven Barth
Am 29.02.2012 12:25, schrieb Michael Schnell: On 02/29/2012 11:33 AM, Mattias Gaertner wrote: Is the wiki supposed to be the upcoming help source, thus invalidating FPDoc and friends ? Are you kidding? fpdoc is great. There only can be a single source for the help so either FPDoc or directly

Re: [Lazarus] Missing Documentation

2012-02-29 Thread Michael Schnell
On 02/29/2012 11:34 AM, Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho wrote: For SVN users the best option would be the wiki still. Resulting in their work never can be included in the offline help. Very bad. -Michael -- ___ Lazarus mailing list

Re: [Lazarus] Missing Documentation

2012-02-29 Thread Michael Schnell
On 02/29/2012 12:30 PM, Sven Barth wrote: It won't, because the Wiki is the source for this kind of help and where editing takes place. I am sure that this will lead to perfect confusion and help content for ever unusable (for logical causes not for technical ones.) -Michael --

Re: [Lazarus] Missing Documentation

2012-02-29 Thread michael . vancanneyt
On Wed, 29 Feb 2012, Michael Schnell wrote: On 02/29/2012 11:34 AM, Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho wrote: I think it would be perfectly fine to generate 1 new offline IDE CHM for each release and ship Lazarus with it. This discussion is about how to enable non-core members to help improving

Re: [Lazarus] Missing Documentation

2012-02-29 Thread Sven Barth
Am 29.02.2012 12:31, schrieb Michael Schnell: On 02/29/2012 11:34 AM, Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho wrote: For SVN users the best option would be the wiki still. Resulting in their work never can be included in the offline help. Very bad. Why do you say that? Once a relese is about to be done

Re: [Lazarus] Missing Documentation

2012-02-29 Thread Sven Barth
Am 29.02.2012 12:28, schrieb Michael Schnell: On 02/29/2012 12:08 PM, Sven Barth wrote: The Wiki is used for documenting e.g. the usage of the IDE. You can't do this using FPDoc. This would mean that there never will be any offline help for Lazarus users. That would really be a bad thing.

Re: [Lazarus] Missing Documentation

2012-02-29 Thread Michael Schnell
On 02/29/2012 12:36 PM, michael.vancann...@wisa.be wrote: That your changes are not distributed at once after you've submitted them is another matter entirely. Submitting of course is another matter. I vote for a review by some kind of committee before submitting. This is what svn is

Re: [Lazarus] Project management

2012-02-29 Thread Marco van de Voort
On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 12:02:08AM +0200, Juha Manninen wrote: This was the best idea so far. I think there is open source project management programs available. However there is a big difference between professionally run SW projects and hobby open source projects: The term you look for is

Re: [Lazarus] Missing Documentation

2012-02-29 Thread Michael Schnell
On 02/29/2012 12:37 PM, Sven Barth wrote: (of course nightly snapshots... Maybe automatic nightly snapshots fed into the svn might be more workable for potential doc writers than being able to decently review their work with the next release, but anyway, splitting the help proceedings in two

Re: [Lazarus] Missing Documentation

2012-02-29 Thread Michael Schnell
On 02/29/2012 12:32 PM, Sven Barth wrote: Did you read Matthias' answers? He wrote that he's working on a tool to export the Wiki entries for e.g. CHM, so this is not a problem... So some part of the offline help is produced by FPdoc and thus privileged (an non-core member of the community

Re: [Lazarus] Missing Documentation

2012-02-29 Thread Sven Barth
Am 29.02.2012 12:50, schrieb Michael Schnell: On 02/29/2012 12:32 PM, Sven Barth wrote: Did you read Matthias' answers? He wrote that he's working on a tool to export the Wiki entries for e.g. CHM, so this is not a problem... So some part of the offline help is produced by FPdoc and thus

Re: [Lazarus] Missing Documentation

2012-02-29 Thread michael . vancanneyt
On Wed, 29 Feb 2012, Michael Schnell wrote: On 02/29/2012 12:32 PM, Sven Barth wrote: Did you read Matthias' answers? He wrote that he's working on a tool to export the Wiki entries for e.g. CHM, so this is not a problem... So some part of the offline help is produced by FPdoc and thus

Re: [Lazarus] Missing Documentation

2012-02-29 Thread Michael Schnell
On 02/29/2012 12:54 PM, Sven Barth wrote: Michael already wrote in one of the recent discussions that he wants to create a webpage (using fpweb of course ;) ) that will allow to edit the FPDoc help entries (I'll try to find the mail). Also there is always the way that works today: edit the

Re: [Lazarus] Missing Documentation

2012-02-29 Thread Sven Barth
Am 29.02.2012 12:48, schrieb Michael Schnell: On 02/29/2012 12:37 PM, Sven Barth wrote: (of course nightly snapshots... Maybe automatic nightly snapshots fed into the svn might be more workable for potential doc writers than being able to decently review their work with the next release, but

Re: [Lazarus] Missing Documentation

2012-02-29 Thread Michael Schnell
On 02/29/2012 12:54 PM, michael.vancann...@wisa.be wrote: Where did you see that fpdoc is priviledged ? Anyone can download and work on it, and submit patches. See my answer to Sven. -Michael -- ___ Lazarus mailing list

Re: [Lazarus] Missing Documentation

2012-02-29 Thread Mattias Gaertner
Sven Barth pascaldra...@googlemail.com hat am 29. Februar 2012 um 12:08 geschrieben: Am 29.02.2012 11:33, schrieb Michael Schnell: On 02/29/2012 11:26 AM, Mattias Gaertner wrote: The wiki is frequently edited by many people and already contains more than 2500 pages. It makes no sense to

Re: [Lazarus] Missing Documentation

2012-02-29 Thread Michael Schnell
On 02/29/2012 12:57 PM, Sven Barth wrote: Contributors for source documentation need to edit the fpdoc files (e.g. those from the SVN checkout) and commit the changes (either as patch or directly if they have SVN write access). Regarding that this discussion started in the issue how to allow

Re: [Lazarus] Missing Documentation

2012-02-29 Thread michael . vancanneyt
On Wed, 29 Feb 2012, Michael Schnell wrote: On 02/29/2012 12:54 PM, Sven Barth wrote: Michael already wrote in one of the recent discussions that he wants to create a webpage (using fpweb of course ;) ) that will allow to edit the FPDoc help entries (I'll try to find the mail). Also

Re: [Lazarus] Missing Documentation

2012-02-29 Thread Mattias Gaertner
Michael Schnell mschn...@lumino.de hat am 29. Februar 2012 um 12:25 geschrieben: [...] There only can be a single source for the help Where do you get this attitude? You are using open source, you should know better. [...] Showing is simple: Just move the mouse over an identifier.

Re: [Lazarus] Why the Java became so strong?

2012-02-29 Thread William Oliveira Ferreira
I'm thinking here, a tool like we have on php.net that allows everyone to post comments on wiki pages should be good to keep somethings as it goes by now. many people post case of use of functions, alternate routines, when they shouldn't be used, etc. it's easy enable user's comment on lazarus'

Re: [Lazarus] Missing Documentation

2012-02-29 Thread Michael Schnell
On 02/29/2012 01:04 PM, michael.vancann...@wisa.be wrote: Do you simetimes actually listen to what we say here ? Seemingly I misunderstood and you are right to be angry . You can perfectly review your changes in at least 2 ways: 1. Hover the mouse over the identifier in the IDE. The IDE

Re: [Lazarus] Is FreeBSD supported?

2012-02-29 Thread Helmut Hartl
Am 29.02.12 12:17, schrieb Marco van de Voort: On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 10:37:19AM +0100, Helmut Hartl wrote: You may get trouble with threaded applications crashing with fpc 2.6, and FreeBSD 9 which comes from a bad/incomplete semaphore definition IIRC. Did you debug that yourself? I didn't

Re: [Lazarus] Missing Documentation

2012-02-29 Thread Mattias Gaertner
Michael Schnell mschn...@lumino.de hat am 29. Februar 2012 um 12:57 geschrieben: On 02/29/2012 12:54 PM, Sven Barth wrote: Michael already wrote in one of the recent discussions that he wants to create a webpage (using fpweb of course ;) ) that will allow to edit the FPDoc help entries

Re: [Lazarus] Missing Documentation

2012-02-29 Thread Sven Barth
Am 29.02.2012 12:57, schrieb Michael Schnell: On 02/29/2012 12:54 PM, Sven Barth wrote: Michael already wrote in one of the recent discussions that he wants to create a webpage (using fpweb of course ) that will allow to edit the FPDoc help entries (I'll try to find the mail). Also there

Re: [Lazarus] Missing Documentation

2012-02-29 Thread Sven Barth
Am 29.02.2012 13:01, schrieb Michael Schnell: On 02/29/2012 12:57 PM, Sven Barth wrote: Contributors for source documentation need to edit the fpdoc files (e.g. those from the SVN checkout) and commit the changes (either as patch or directly if they have SVN write access). Regarding that this

Re: [Lazarus] Missing Documentation

2012-02-29 Thread Michael Schnell
On 02/29/2012 12:59 PM, Sven Barth wrote: As already written: * either use the editor hints of the IDE which work on the FPDoc files in %laz%\doc\xml * or build the help files yourself Obvious best option: * do nothing. -Michael -- ___ Lazarus

Re: [Lazarus] Missing Documentation

2012-02-29 Thread Mattias Gaertner
Sven Barth pascaldra...@googlemail.com hat am 29. Februar 2012 um 13:42 geschrieben: Am 29.02.2012 12:57, schrieb Michael Schnell: On 02/29/2012 12:54 PM, Sven Barth wrote: Michael already wrote in one of the recent discussions that he wants to create a webpage (using fpweb of

Re: [Lazarus] Missing Documentation

2012-02-29 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
On 29 February 2012 13:25, Michael Schnell wrote: offline help from the svn sources and failed multiple times (in action with DocView, even trying to find out how this should be done with CHM.) I created new LCL help in INF format over the weekend, using fpdoc from latest 2.7.1. The only issue

Re: [Lazarus] SynEdit painting while paintlocked

2012-02-29 Thread Martin
On 29/02/2012 07:01, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote: Hi, I got a lazarus update this morning, and rebuilt the IDE via the Tools menu. While it was compiling, I was scrolling the editor window. Then suddenly the IDE froze up! Luckily I ran the IDE from a console window, and saw the following warning

Re: [Lazarus] SourceEditor: strange gap on right hand side

2012-02-29 Thread Martin
On 29/02/2012 08:30, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote: 2012/2/28 Martin : It can be switched on and off in the IDE options. It does show (for the entire file): - position of breakpoints - position of bookmarks - changes (unsaved/saved) per line - implementation/interface/initialization (shaded grey) -

Re: [Lazarus] Missing Documentation

2012-02-29 Thread Michael Schnell
On 02/29/2012 02:53 PM, michael.vancann...@wisa.be wrote: None of this is an excuse for not contributing. You are perfectly right, but ... (see my answer to Graeme). -Michael -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org

Re: [Lazarus] editor toolbar's buttons glyph

2012-02-29 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
On 29 February 2012 16:07, William Oliveira Ferreira wrote: Sure, here it is... OK, as I suspected... most of your toolbar actions you chose are not from the IDEMainMenu, but rather from other popup menus like the SourceEditor. Such popup menus (like in the case of the Source Editor), don't

Re: [Lazarus] Project management

2012-02-29 Thread Juha Manninen
2012/2/29 Marco van de Voort mar...@stack.nl The term you look for is community driven project, not hobby. Many people working on larger open source project can do so in a professional environment. It is just that the project direction is not owned by a company. Note that many hybrids

Re: [Lazarus] String grids

2012-02-29 Thread kmi
Is there any way (hopefully easy) to change the background colour of a specific cell in a stringgrid? procedure TForm1.SG1PrepareCanvas(sender: TObject; aCol, aRow: Integer; aState: TGridDrawState); begin SG1.Canvas.brush.color := clWhite; If (aCol = 4) and (aRow = 1) Then

Re: [Lazarus] Project management

2012-02-29 Thread Hans-Peter Diettrich
Juha Manninen schrieb: Now, your answers indicate you don't really know what you want. How does fixing a bug or creating a new feature become easier if it is listed in a project management GUI? It doesn't, you still have to learn and edit the code. This is where documentation is helpful.

Re: [Lazarus] Project management

2012-02-29 Thread Hans-Peter Diettrich
Michael Schnell schrieb: On 02/28/2012 10:59 PM, Hans-Peter Diettrich wrote: What's missing from the current documentation tools? After doing an addition to the help sources (supposedly using FPDoc, I did not yet try to use it, but found the discussions on your recent improvements to it very

Re: [Lazarus] Can't compile trunk with fpc 2.4.5 under ubuntu

2012-02-29 Thread Hans-Peter Diettrich
Michael Schnell schrieb: Maybe he would be better off using ANSIString(0) or ANSIString($) to be sure that his doing will not be influenced by the locale setting of the system the code is compiled on or runs on. AnsiString(0) should be okay, but other encodings may require overloaded

Re: [Lazarus] Missing Documentation

2012-02-29 Thread Hans-Peter Diettrich
Mattias Gaertner schrieb: And it it does open: Is the helpful user supposed to use the wiki to improve the help text ? This would make the Wiki database the primary help source. It is since many years. This IMO is a bad idea, as long as many Lazarus versions are used concurrently, with

Re: [Lazarus] Missing Documentation

2012-02-29 Thread Hans-Peter Diettrich
Michael Schnell schrieb: On 02/29/2012 11:26 AM, Mattias Gaertner wrote: The wiki is frequently edited by many people and already contains more than 2500 pages. It makes no sense to shut it down. But if there is no way to keep it in sync with the FPDoc files, how is the future of either

Re: [Lazarus] Missing Documentation

2012-02-29 Thread Hans-Peter Diettrich
Mattias Gaertner schrieb: Not having top priority and being NOT interested are two different things. AFAIK everyone agreed that having all help offline would be nice feature. ACK The wiki is frequently edited by many people and already contains more than 2500 pages. It makes no sense to

Re: [Lazarus] String grids

2012-02-29 Thread David Copeland
Thanks! /Dave. -Original Message- From: k...@vgdata.dk Reply-to: Lazarus mailing list lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org To: Lazarus mailing list lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org Subject: Re: [Lazarus] String grids Date: Wed, 29 Feb 2012 16:39:11 +0100 (CET) Is there any way

Re: [Lazarus] Missing Documentation

2012-02-29 Thread Reinier Olislagers
On 29-2-2012 14:02, Michael Schnell wrote: On 02/29/2012 12:59 PM, Sven Barth wrote: As already written: * either use the editor hints of the IDE which work on the FPDoc files in %laz%\doc\xml * or build the help files yourself Obvious best option: * do nothing. -Michael I'm sorry, but

Re: [Lazarus] Missing Documentation

2012-02-29 Thread Michael Schnell
On 02/29/2012 04:15 PM, Reinier Olislagers wrote: I'm sorry, but then I suggest you stop bothering the list with your posts... Agreed. - Michael -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org

Re: [Lazarus] Can't compile trunk with fpc 2.4.5 under ubuntu

2012-02-29 Thread Michael Schnell
On 02/29/2012 03:40 PM, Hans-Peter Diettrich wrote: The XE code is the same for AnsiString(0). Other encodings are either ignored, when functions with RawByteString arguments are present, or are converted automatically what most probably causes wrong results. RawByteString =

Re: [Lazarus] Project management

2012-02-29 Thread Michael Schnell
On 02/29/2012 02:14 PM, Hans-Peter Diettrich wrote: I don't see a need for combining everything into one help file, be PDF or CHM. Not one file but e.g. one multiple-file viewer. It should be possible to search for information (keyword combinations) across the different files. -Michael --

Re: [Lazarus] Missing Documentation

2012-02-29 Thread Hans-Peter Diettrich
Michael Schnell schrieb: It's a bit frustrating to see Graeme, DoDi, Sven and others try to improve the help itself and especially the help generation process, while I can't see the common final goal in focus (one or more online and offline versatile help viewers / file formats being fed and

Re: [Lazarus] Missing Documentation

2012-02-29 Thread Marc Santhoff
Am Mittwoch, den 29.02.2012, 13:07 +0100 schrieb Mattias Gaertner: Michael Schnell mschn...@lumino.de hat am 29. Februar 2012 um 12:25 geschrieben: [...] There only can be a single source for the help Where do you get this attitude? You are using open source, you should know

Re: [Lazarus] Missing Documentation

2012-02-29 Thread Marc Santhoff
Am Mittwoch, den 29.02.2012, 15:45 +0200 schrieb Graeme Geldenhuys: On 29 February 2012 15:36, Michael Schnell wrote: [ I apologise if I sound frustrated with you, but it probably is because I am. ] LOL * fpdoc is well documented. So usage should not be a problem. * LCL, fpGUI etc all

Re: [Lazarus] Missing Documentation

2012-02-29 Thread Hans-Peter Diettrich
Marc Santhoff schrieb: Where is the process of building up help files documented? Seen from my current knowledge there are many new tools and facts I do not know or understand. In the source directories, i.e. in $fpcdocs (wherever you checked it out), or in Lazarus/docs/html. The procedures

Re: [Lazarus] Project management

2012-02-29 Thread Hans-Peter Diettrich
Michael Schnell schrieb: On 02/29/2012 02:14 PM, Hans-Peter Diettrich wrote: I don't see a need for combining everything into one help file, be PDF or CHM. Not one file but e.g. one multiple-file viewer. It should be possible to search for information (keyword combinations) across the

Re: [Lazarus] Missing Documentation

2012-02-29 Thread Mattias Gaertner
Marc Santhoff m.santh...@web.de hat am 29. Februar 2012 um 17:54 geschrieben: [...] Showing is simple: Just move the mouse over an identifier. About destroying: You apparently have not tried it. I talked about showing / seeing my modifications. Michael, PLEASE try to use the

Re: [Lazarus] Project management

2012-02-29 Thread Mattias Gaertner
Hans-Peter Diettrich drdiettri...@aol.com hat am 29. Februar 2012 um 18:17 geschrieben: Michael Schnell schrieb: On 02/29/2012 02:14 PM, Hans-Peter Diettrich wrote: I don't see a need for combining everything into one help file, be PDF or CHM. Not one file but e.g. one multiple-file

Re: [Lazarus] String grids

2012-02-29 Thread Alexsander Rosa
There's a lot more you can do with String Grids http://wiki.lazarus.freepascal.org/Grids_Reference_Page 2012/2/29 David Copeland david.copel...@jsidata.ca Thanks! /Dave. -- Atenciosamente, Alexsander da Rosa http://rednaxel.com -- ___ Lazarus

Re: [Lazarus] Missing Documentation

2012-02-29 Thread Marc Santhoff
Am Mittwoch, den 29.02.2012, 18:22 +0100 schrieb Mattias Gaertner: Marc Santhoff m.santh...@web.de hat am 29. Februar 2012 um 17:54 geschrieben: [...] Showing is simple: Just move the mouse over an identifier. About destroying: You apparently have not tried it. I talked

Re: [Lazarus] Missing Documentation

2012-02-29 Thread Marc Santhoff
Am Mittwoch, den 29.02.2012, 18:15 +0100 schrieb Hans-Peter Diettrich: Marc Santhoff schrieb: Where is the process of building up help files documented? Seen from my current knowledge there are many new tools and facts I do not know or understand. In the source directories, i.e. in

Re: [Lazarus] Missing Documentation

2012-02-29 Thread Guionardo Furlan
Em 28/02/2012 16:06, Mattias Gaertner escreveu: On Tue, 28 Feb 2012 19:43:48 +0100 Marc Santhoff m.santh...@web.de wrote: Hi again, since there were multiple complaints about missing documentation, where can I find a list of what is missing exactly in

Re: [Lazarus] Missing Documentation

2012-02-29 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
On 29 February 2012 18:59, Marc Santhoff wrote: Developers of ölazarus do know, they use it. For me as a user of lazarus, using it to make progrms and source libraries, it is pretty confusing to follow the threads about these non documented workflows. All the various documentations I mentioned

Re: [Lazarus] Missing Documentation

2012-02-29 Thread Frank Church
On 28 February 2012 18:43, Marc Santhoff m.santh...@web.de wrote: Hi again, since there were multiple complaints about missing documentation, where can I find a list of what is missing exactly in detail? Is there a wiki page about it? Or a docs page collecting empty descriptions or the

Re: [Lazarus] Missing Documentation

2012-02-29 Thread John Repucci
Date: Wed, 29 Feb 2012 19:32:47 +0100 From: Marc Santhoff m.santh...@web.de Subject: Re: [Lazarus] Missing Documentation To: Lazarus mailing list lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org Message-ID: 1330540367.57395.61.ca...@zaphod.das.netz Content-Type: text/plain Am Mittwoch, den

Re: [Lazarus] Missing Documentation

2012-02-29 Thread Hans-Peter Diettrich
Marc Santhoff schrieb: One name I remember (from huge masses of emails) is FPDocManager. Is that a class or a tool? It's a project in examples/fpdocmanager. It shall allow even newbies to create their own local documentation. It also allows FPDoc documentation writers to create skeletons

Re: [Lazarus] Project management

2012-02-29 Thread Hans-Peter Diettrich
Mattias Gaertner schrieb: search for information (keyword combinations) across the different files. I'm not familiar with CHM, don't know how this could be achieved. But I assume that such a feature should be available already - who knows more? Google can search in the wiki and

Re: [Lazarus] Missing Documentation

2012-02-29 Thread Marc Santhoff
Am Mittwoch, den 29.02.2012, 13:47 -0600 schrieb John Repucci: Date: Wed, 29 Feb 2012 19:32:47 +0100 From: Marc Santhoff m.santh...@web.de Subject: Re: [Lazarus] Missing Documentation To: Lazarus mailing list lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org

Re: [Lazarus] Missing Documentation

2012-02-29 Thread Marc Santhoff
Am Mittwoch, den 29.02.2012, 20:43 +0100 schrieb Hans-Peter Diettrich: Marc Santhoff schrieb: One name I remember (from huge masses of emails) is FPDocManager. Is that a class or a tool? It's a project in examples/fpdocmanager. It shall allow even newbies to create their own local

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