Re: [Lazarus] Promoting Lazarus: A Case Study Video

2015-02-25 Thread Lukasz Sokol
Hi Anthony, On 25/02/15 09:43, Anthony Walter wrote: Lukasz, the motivation is to highlight the quality of software which Lazarus can produce, and create really simple to use installers for Windows, Mac, and Linux. I noted when I went to setup Lazarus on Mac recently just how difficult I was.

Re: [Lazarus] make -s clean all PREFIX= prefix not using

2015-02-25 Thread Mattias Gaertner
On Wed, 25 Feb 2015 16:14:34 +0200 FreeMan freema...@delphiturkiye.com wrote: Before try, I wanna ask, In idemake.cfg, environmentoptions.xml can support macro use ? I mean, idemake.cfg is autogenerated. All macros are resolved. This file is passed to the compiler. environmentoptions.xml can

Re: [Lazarus] Multi-Device Designer

2015-02-25 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
On 2015-02-25 11:39, Michael Schnell wrote: On 02/25/2015 12:26 PM, Michael Schnell wrote: I once found the source code of the original library... GLScene. You mean this... [http://sourceforge.net/projects/glscene/] I think you got confused. FireMonkey originated from KSDev's product called

Re: [Lazarus] Multi-Device Designer

2015-02-25 Thread Mattias Gaertner
On Wed, 25 Feb 2015 10:35:04 + Graeme Geldenhuys mailingli...@geldenhuys.co.uk wrote: On 2015-02-25 09:53, Michael Schnell wrote: While (AFAIK, not having watched, yet) in Delphi XE this is only possible with FireMonkey Correct, the Delphi video was just for the FireMonkey toolkit -

Re: [Lazarus] make -s clean all PREFIX= prefix not using

2015-02-25 Thread FreeMan
Sorry this is false report. in profile folder idemake.cfg, environmentoptions.xml has wrong path, when I fix them, work normal now, sorry, my fault Thank you On 25.02.2015 13:46, FreeMan wrote: fpc r30004 lazarus r47987 osx qt x64 lazarus make line make -s clean all

Re: [Lazarus] Multi-Device Designer

2015-02-25 Thread Martin Schreiber
On Wednesday 25 February 2015 14:02:33 Mattias Gaertner wrote: On Wed, 25 Feb 2015 10:39:12 + Graeme Geldenhuys mailingli...@geldenhuys.co.uk wrote: On 2015-02-25 09:31, Mattias Gaertner wrote: Of course you can use VFI to create custom views - for different platforms, devices,

Re: [Lazarus] fpcup x86 and x64

2015-02-25 Thread aradeonas
Thank you Mattias, Do you now about Lazarus too? Regards, Ara On Wed, Feb 25, 2015, at 05:33 AM, Mattias Gaertner wrote: On Tue, 24 Feb 2015 15:16:44 -0800 aradeonas aradeo...@operamail.com wrote: Am I asking too newbie question that not worth to answer or there is no one that run fpcub

Re: [Lazarus] Promoting Lazarus: A Case Study Video

2015-02-25 Thread Marcos Douglas
On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 1:40 PM, Anthony Walter sys...@gmail.com wrote: Go back to a mailing list archive, other people have made suggestions which ';ve implemented. http://free-pascal-general.1045716.n5.nabble.com/New-Get-Lazarus-Initiative-td5720922.html Including making it clear who I am

Re: [Lazarus] fpcup x86 and x64

2015-02-25 Thread Mattias Gaertner
On Wed, 25 Feb 2015 07:15:13 -0800 aradeonas aradeo...@operamail.com wrote: Thank you Mattias, Do you now about Lazarus too? Yeah, I heard about it. Just kidding. It doesn't matter if you use the 32 or 64bit IDE. Both can work with 32 and 64bit programs. Mattias --

Re: [Lazarus] Promoting Lazarus: A Case Study Video

2015-02-25 Thread Anthony Walter
Go back to a mailing list archive, other people have made suggestions which ';ve implemented. http://free-pascal-general.1045716.n5.nabble.com/New-Get-Lazarus-Initiative-td5720922.html Including making it clear who I am and why, linking back to the official sites on every mention of Free pascal

Re: [Lazarus] Lazarus Release Candidate 1 of 1.4

2015-02-25 Thread Mattias Gaertner
On Wed, 25 Feb 2015 15:27:58 +0100 Schindler Karl-Michael karl-michael.schind...@web.de wrote: Hi, I checked RC1 of 1.4 on Mac OS X and there is one thing, which i found. The patch of revision 47654, which fixes a 32/64bit issue in lcl/lclintf.pas and lcl/include/sysenvapis_mac.inc for

Re: [Lazarus] Promoting Lazarus: A Case Study Video

2015-02-25 Thread Travis Ayres
I like the getlazarus version better so far than the official one (assuming it isn't an elaborate trick...). Free software is all about choice - I'm glad to have another option. I'm kinda surprised other people seem not to like it. More exposure for fpc/lazarus is good isn't it? On Feb 25, 2015

Re: [Lazarus] Promoting Lazarus: A Case Study Video

2015-02-25 Thread Brian Chalega da Silva
On 25-02-2015 14:10, Marcos Douglas wrote: On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 1:40 PM, Anthony Walter sys...@gmail.com wrote: Go back to a mailing list archive, other people have made suggestions which ';ve implemented.

Re: [Lazarus] Promoting Lazarus: A Case Study Video

2015-02-25 Thread Osvaldo Filho
Do not do what others already do ! And whatever you do, do with pleasure! I love the idea of ​​unstable code, is another alternative to the community ! Who comes here has to at least understand the difference between the various options. So, as not to create unnecessary problems, just make it

Re: [Lazarus] Promoting Lazarus: A Case Study Video

2015-02-25 Thread Marc Weustink
On February 25, 2015 8:51:11 PM CET, Travis Ayres tray...@gmail.com wrote: I like the getlazarus version better so far than the official one (assuming it isn't an elaborate trick...). Free software is all about choice - I'm glad to have another option. I'm kinda surprised other people seem not

Re: [Lazarus] Promoting Lazarus: A Case Study Video

2015-02-25 Thread Brian Chalega da Silva
On 25-02-2015 17:31, Marc Weustink wrote: On February 25, 2015 8:51:11 PM CET, Travis Ayres tray...@gmail.com wrote: I like the getlazarus version better so far than the official one (assuming it isn't an elaborate trick...). Free software is all about choice - I'm glad to have another

Re: [Lazarus] fpcup x86 and x64

2015-02-25 Thread aradeonas
Yeah,That is a very good IDE ;) I give it a try. Thank you, Ara On Wed, Feb 25, 2015, at 08:46 AM, Mattias Gaertner wrote: On Wed, 25 Feb 2015 07:15:13 -0800 aradeonas aradeo...@operamail.com wrote: Thank you Mattias, Do you now about Lazarus too? Yeah, I heard about it. Just

Re: [Lazarus] Promoting Lazarus: A Case Study Video

2015-02-25 Thread Anthony Walter
I wish I could take back all the spelling errors, missed words, and grammatical mistakes in my previous message, but this is what happens when you work a regular job, and spend every night coding from midnight til 9AM for weeks on end. -- ___ Lazarus

Re: [Lazarus] Multi-Device Designer

2015-02-25 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
On 2015-02-25 09:31, Mattias Gaertner wrote: Of course you can use VFI to create custom views - for different platforms, devices, releases or whatever flavors. But the difference between Delphi and Lazarus would be how you reference those forms. In Delphi FMX (as far as I understand) you would

Re: [Lazarus] Multi-Device Designer

2015-02-25 Thread Michael Schnell
On 02/25/2015 11:35 AM, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote: Is the LCL-CustomDrawn widgetset maybe meant as the target for FMX compatibility? Do you think it _should_ ? Do you see a real advantage with FireMonkey ? (I did not even do a hallo world with same.) In fact, AFAIK, the FM library once was a

Re: [Lazarus] Multi-Device Designer

2015-02-25 Thread Sven Barth
Am 25.02.2015 11:35 schrieb Graeme Geldenhuys mailingli...@geldenhuys.co.uk: On 2015-02-25 09:53, Michael Schnell wrote: While (AFAIK, not having watched, yet) in Delphi XE this is only possible with FireMonkey Correct, the Delphi video was just for the FireMonkey toolkit - hence my

Re: [Lazarus] Multi-Device Designer

2015-02-25 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
On 2015-02-25 10:40, Michael Schnell wrote: On 02/25/2015 11:35 AM, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote: Is the LCL-CustomDrawn widgetset maybe meant as the target for FMX compatibility? Do you think it _should_ ? I honestly don't know what LCL-CustomDrawn is targeting. It also isn't in a usable state

Re: [Lazarus] Multi-Device Designer

2015-02-25 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
On 2015-02-25 10:46, Sven Barth wrote: we don't need FM and can instead improve the LCL to handle this better including native look and feel. Okay, so does that mean currently LCL can't target Android or iOS, but the possibility could exist in the future? The reason I say this is because to

Re: [Lazarus] ./startlazarus raise exception

2015-02-25 Thread FreeMan
Thank you Mattias, I saw new your message, I tested fpc r30004 lazarus r47987 its fixed On 24.02.2015 20:04, Mattias Gaertner wrote: There was a big change to FPC http://bugs.freepascal.org/view.php?id=27531 I recommend to use an older revision of fpc until the dust has settled. Mattias

Re: [Lazarus] Promoting Lazarus: A Case Study Video

2015-02-25 Thread Anthony Walter
Lukasz, the motivation is to highlight the quality of software which Lazarus can produce, and create really simple to use installers for Windows, Mac, and Linux. I noted when I went to setup Lazarus on Mac recently just how difficult I was. The end goal is to draw more people to Lazarus.

Re: [Lazarus] Multi-Device Designer

2015-02-25 Thread Michael Schnell
On 02/25/2015 08:05 AM, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote: I just found this very interesting video about Delphi XE7 (or AppMethod) and how the form designer can design for multiple device targets. Very clever usage of Visual Form Inheritance. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fmA7KLlOR1U How does

Re: [Lazarus] Multi-Device Designer

2015-02-25 Thread Mattias Gaertner
On Wed, 25 Feb 2015 07:05:20 + Graeme Geldenhuys mailingli...@geldenhuys.co.uk wrote: Hi, I just found this very interesting video about Delphi XE7 (or AppMethod) and how the form designer can design for multiple device targets. Very clever usage of Visual Form Inheritance.

Re: [Lazarus] Multi-Device Designer

2015-02-25 Thread patspiper
On 25/02/15 13:02, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote: On 2015-02-25 10:46, Sven Barth wrote: we don't need FM and can instead improve the LCL to handle this better including native look and feel. Okay, so does that mean currently LCL can't target Android or iOS, but the possibility could exist in the

Re: [Lazarus] Multi-Device Designer

2015-02-25 Thread Michael Schnell
On 02/25/2015 11:49 AM, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote: I honestly don't know what LCL-CustomDrawn is targeting. It also isn't in a usable state at the moment and still needs a lot of development before it is usable. AFAIK, CustomDrawn is trying to restrict the necessary functionality of an external

Re: [Lazarus] Multi-Device Designer

2015-02-25 Thread Michael Schnell
On 02/25/2015 12:26 PM, Michael Schnell wrote: I once found the source code of the original library... DXScene. I do have some DX files fetched at that time. I did not ever open the ZIPs :-( -Michael -- ___ Lazarus mailing list

Re: [Lazarus] Multi-Device Designer

2015-02-25 Thread Michael Schnell
On 02/25/2015 12:26 PM, Michael Schnell wrote: I once found the source code of the original library... GLScene. I do have some GL files fetched at that time. I did not ever open the ZIPs -Michael -- ___ Lazarus mailing list

Re: [Lazarus] Multi-Device Designer

2015-02-25 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
On 2015-02-25 11:26, Michael Schnell wrote: Well, considering that VCL is _very_ Windows specific, IMHO the LCL proves that close to all VCL features can be done as good (or even better) with other Widgets sets than just Windows. I agree that the Lazarus team did a very good job, but I still

Re: [Lazarus] Multi-Device Designer

2015-02-25 Thread Michael Schnell
On 02/25/2015 12:26 PM, Michael Schnell wrote: But of course they tried to remove it from the Internet after they changed the license. Hmmm: http://sourceforge.net/projects/glscene/Last Update: 2015-01-27 -Michael -- ___ Lazarus mailing list

[Lazarus] make -s clean all PREFIX= prefix not using

2015-02-25 Thread FreeMan
fpc r30004 lazarus r47987 osx qt x64 lazarus make line make -s clean all PREFIX=$prefixVolume$laz_prefix CPU_TARGET=x86_64 OS_TARGET=darwin LCL_PLATFORM=qt OPT=-k'-framework' -k'ApplicationServices' -dUSE_QT_45 -g -gl start lazarus, open Tools -- Install / Uninstall packages. installed list