[Lazarus] Delphi converter improvements

2010-02-26 Thread Juha Manninen
Hi, The converter is improving gradually in SVN trunk. Converting the source code works better and there is an option to support Delphi compatibility with conditional compilation. For Lazarus / LCL code, Windows is now replaced with LCLIntf, LCLType and LMessages. I realized there are other

Re: [Lazarus] Delphi converter improvements

2010-02-26 Thread Paul Ishenin
26.02.2010 21:28, Juha Manninen wrote: Hi, The converter is improving gradually in SVN trunk. Converting the source code works better and there is an option to support Delphi compatibility with conditional compilation. For Lazarus / LCL code, Windows is now replaced with LCLIntf, LCLType and

Re: [Lazarus] Delphi converter improvements

2010-02-26 Thread waldo kitty
On 2/26/2010 10:16, Juha Manninen wrote: Personally I don't understand why someone would make a Windows-only program using a multi-platform system like FPC / Lazarus. ...but that's just my thought... why? because they only work with winwhatever systems and they can't afford or simply don't

Re: [Lazarus] Delphi converter improvements

2010-02-26 Thread Jürgen Hestermann
Personally I don't understand why someone would make a Windows-only program using a multi-platform system like FPC / Lazarus. ...but that's just my thought... Do you know a similar open source Pascal compiler/IDE that is for Windows only? If yes, let me know, I will try it. If not, what are

Re: [Lazarus] Delphi converter improvements

2010-02-06 Thread Juha Manninen
* The first is the usual dialog where converter inform us that some properties are invalid and offer us to remove them. But this dialog needs some improvement for example when there is a component on form resource that is unknown, such as the case of for example TRichedit, maybe because it's

Re: [Lazarus] Delphi converter improvements

2010-02-05 Thread Juha Manninen
Hi, Is there anyway I could try out your Lazarus delphi converter improvements? I made a GitHub repository with my converter branch. It is an extra step but not really complicated for anyone interested in this feature. It is actually only 4 command line commands. http

Re: [Lazarus] Delphi converter improvements

2010-02-05 Thread Florian Klaempfl
Juha Manninen schrieb: The original problem has nothing to do with revision control systems. Parts of Lazarus code is known by very few people and they are busy. It is nobody's fault of course but still it leads to patches being ignored. One cannot sit at home and wait for new patches coming

Re: [Lazarus] Delphi converter improvements

2010-02-05 Thread Marc Weustink
Juha Manninen wrote: The original problem has nothing to do with revision control systems. Parts of Lazarus code is known by very few people and they are busy. It is nobody's fault of course but still it leads to patches being ignored. Something should be done to fix this situation. Your

Re: [Lazarus] Delphi converter improvements

2010-02-04 Thread Marco van de Voort
On Wed, Feb 03, 2010 at 12:15:19PM +0200, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote: Juha Manninen wrote: That's what I do also. A separate branch is good for new experimental features which would break the main project somehow. However, my patches clearly fix issues of an existing The workflow we

Re: [Lazarus] Delphi converter improvements

2010-02-04 Thread Marco van de Voort
On Wed, Feb 03, 2010 at 01:56:06PM +0100, Michael Van Canneyt wrote: There is 1 case where this can occur, namely when you do svn+ssh:// - http:// even though it is the same repository, if you change protocol it will download the whole repository again. In all the years that I use

Re: [Lazarus] Delphi converter improvements

2010-02-04 Thread Juha Manninen
Paul Nicholls wrote: Is there anyway I could try out your Lazarus delphi converter improvements? What is the procedure for this? Any comments from Lazarus developers? Juha -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http

Re: [Lazarus] Delphi converter improvements

2010-02-04 Thread Vincent Snijders
Juha Manninen schreef: Paul Nicholls wrote: Is there anyway I could try out your Lazarus delphi converter improvements? What is the procedure for this? Any comments from Lazarus developers? How to try out a patch from others is explained here: http://wiki.lazarus.freepascal.org

Re: [Lazarus] Delphi converter improvements

2010-02-04 Thread Vincent Snijders
Juha Manninen schreef: Vincent Snijders wrote: How to try out a patch from others is explained here: http://wiki.lazarus.freepascal.org/Creating_A_Patch#Applying_a_patch Yes I know. I was just hoping for comments on the original problem. Oh, but that was not the question from Paul Nicholls.

Re: [Lazarus] Delphi converter improvements

2010-02-04 Thread Jesus Reyes
--- El jue 4-feb-10, Juha Manninen juha.manni...@phnet.fi escribió: De:: Juha Manninen juha.manni...@phnet.fi Asunto: Re: [Lazarus] Delphi converter improvements A: Lazarus mailing list lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org Fecha: jueves 4 de febrero de 2010, 11:45 Paul Nicholls wrote

Re: [Lazarus] Delphi converter improvements

2010-02-03 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
Juha Manninen wrote: That's what I do also. A separate branch is good for new experimental features which would break the main project somehow. However, my patches clearly fix issues of an existing A workflow we have adopted at work allows for experimental features, maintenance branches, an

Re: [Lazarus] Delphi converter improvements

2010-02-03 Thread Florian Klaempfl
Graeme Geldenhuys schrieb: I think Lazarus could benefit from such a workflow too. There seems to be more and more experimental feature that go untested because they are experimental. Getting more developers to simply switch to another branch at allow testing of new features before they go to

Re: [Lazarus] Delphi converter improvements

2010-02-03 Thread Juha Manninen
Hi. I know a number of people who would be interested in your delphi converter, including myself :) Good to know! (Although it is not really MY converter, but I am willing to improve it.) An easy to use 3d modeling package has now gone open source: www.delgine.com

Re: [Lazarus] Delphi converter improvements

2010-02-03 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
Florian Klaempfl wrote: Years of experience with fpc showed that very few people are testing such branches. Even rcs aren't intensively tested, just look at the resource trouble with fpc 2.4.0 Not to get into all that again (you can read the archives), but SubVersion doesn't lend itself to

Re: [Lazarus] Delphi converter improvements

2010-02-03 Thread Marc Weustink
Graeme Geldenhuys wrote: Florian Klaempfl wrote: Years of experience with fpc showed that very few people are testing such branches. Even rcs aren't intensively tested, just look at the resource trouble with fpc 2.4.0 Not to get into all that again (you can read the archives), but SubVersion

Re: [Lazarus] Delphi converter improvements

2010-02-03 Thread Florian Klaempfl
Graeme Geldenhuys schrieb: Florian Klaempfl wrote: Years of experience with fpc showed that very few people are testing such branches. Even rcs aren't intensively tested, just look at the resource trouble with fpc 2.4.0 Not to get into all that again (you can read the archives), Yes, you

Re: [Lazarus] Delphi converter improvements

2010-02-03 Thread Florian Klaempfl
Marc Weustink schrieb: Graeme Geldenhuys wrote: Florian Klaempfl wrote: Years of experience with fpc showed that very few people are testing such branches. Even rcs aren't intensively tested, just look at the resource trouble with fpc 2.4.0 Not to get into all that again (you can read the

Re: [Lazarus] Delphi converter improvements

2010-02-03 Thread Flávio Etrusco
On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 7:18 AM, Florian Klaempfl flor...@freepascal.org wrote: Graeme Geldenhuys schrieb: I think Lazarus could benefit from such a workflow too. There seems to be more and more experimental feature that go untested because they are experimental. Getting more developers to

Re: [Lazarus] Delphi converter improvements

2010-02-03 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
Florian Klaempfl wrote: flor...@ubuntu32:~/fpc/branches/trunk$ svn switch http://svn.freepascal.org/svn/fpc/branches/fixes_2_4 log flor...@ubuntu32:~/fpc/branches/trunk$ ifconfig eth0 | grep RX bytes RX bytes:57681323 (57.6 MB) TX bytes:1814129 (1.8 MB) OK, so I create a patch

Re: [Lazarus] Delphi converter improvements

2010-02-03 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
Marc Weustink wrote: simple svn statement and a few secs waiting. svn switch But that downloads the whole repository every time you run that command. See my reply to Florian why this is an issue. Regards, - Graeme - -- fpGUI Toolkit - a cross-platform GUI toolkit using Free Pascal

Re: [Lazarus] Delphi converter improvements

2010-02-03 Thread Marc Weustink
Graeme Geldenhuys wrote: Marc Weustink wrote: simple svn statement and a few secs waiting. svn switch But that downloads the whole repository every time you run that command. See my reply to Florian why this is an issue. Then you do something wrong. It only downloads the diff. Marc

Re: [Lazarus] Delphi converter improvements

2010-02-03 Thread Vincent Snijders
Graeme Geldenhuys schreef: Florian Klaempfl wrote: flor...@ubuntu32:~/fpc/branches/trunk$ svn switch http://svn.freepascal.org/svn/fpc/branches/fixes_2_4 log flor...@ubuntu32:~/fpc/branches/trunk$ ifconfig eth0 | grep RX bytes RX bytes:57681323 (57.6 MB) TX bytes:1814129 (1.8 MB)

Re: [Lazarus] Delphi converter improvements

2010-02-03 Thread Florian Klaempfl
Graeme Geldenhuys schrieb: Marc Weustink wrote: simple svn statement and a few secs waiting. svn switch But that downloads the whole repository every time you run that command. Who says that? His Godness Linus? Even the best compression cannot fold the FPC sources into 0.5 MB. --

Re: [Lazarus] Delphi converter improvements

2010-02-03 Thread Michael Van Canneyt
On Wed, 3 Feb 2010, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote: Marc Weustink wrote: simple svn statement and a few secs waiting. svn switch But that downloads the whole repository every time you run that command. This is not correct. It downloads a diff. I do this multiple times a day. Try it.

Re: [Lazarus] Delphi converter improvements

2010-02-03 Thread Florian Klaempfl
Flávio Etrusco schrieb: Florian, I for one - which had tried some branches only a few times - think that the main culprits for this is lack of information/advertisement of these/the relevant branches But this is not svn's fault. We can tell only people to test RCs, no more no less. --

Re: [Lazarus] Delphi converter improvements

2010-02-03 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
Marc Weustink wrote: Then you do something wrong. It only downloads the diff. Then my svn repository was seriously screwed or something, because it took forever and downloaded for ages. Since then I abandoned the idea of branches with SubVersion. [...I have to add, this was 3+ years ago...]

Re: [Lazarus] Delphi converter improvements

2010-02-03 Thread Paul Ishenin
03.02.2010 19:46, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote: Then my svn repository was seriously screwed or something, because it took forever and downloaded for ages. Since then I abandoned the idea of branches with SubVersion. [...I have to add, this was 3+ years ago...] I don't think that it is a good

Re: [Lazarus] Delphi converter improvements

2010-02-03 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
Florian Klaempfl wrote: But this is not svn's fault. We can tell only people to test RCs, no more no less. I tested 2.4.0-rc since the day it was announced. For once I did my part and even noted those issues in the wiki. But like YOU and other Lazarus team developers, the resources bug eluded

Re: [Lazarus] Delphi converter improvements

2010-02-03 Thread Michael Van Canneyt
On Wed, 3 Feb 2010, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote: Marc Weustink wrote: Then you do something wrong. It only downloads the diff. Then my svn repository was seriously screwed or something, because it took forever and downloaded for ages. Since then I abandoned the idea of branches with

Re: [Lazarus] Delphi converter improvements

2010-02-03 Thread Paul Nicholls
- Original Message - From: Juha Manninen juha.manni...@phnet.fi To: Lazarus mailing list lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2010 9:43 PM Subject: Re: [Lazarus] Delphi converter improvements Hi. I know a number of people who would be interested

Re: [Lazarus] Delphi converter improvements

2010-02-02 Thread Paul Ishenin
03.02.2010 5:04, Juha Manninen wrote: What you say? When I first saw your converter patches I decided that first someone need to check the style of your patches. If it is wrong then correct you. And then we can give you rights to commit to delphi converter. I asked Mattias to review since