Re: [Leaf-devel] Proposed CVS Structure

2001-05-21 Thread David Douthitt
Mike Noyes wrote: > > Mike Noyes, 2001-05-19 07:14 -0700 > >We agree the package tree needs categories. Now the hard part, what should > >they be? I think we need a "scripts" category. I have my doubts about > >using a "net" category, because most of our packages fit into it. > > Everyone, > Wha

Re: [Leaf-devel] Proposed CVS Structure

2001-05-20 Thread George Metz
On Sat, 19 May 2001, Mike Noyes wrote: > Mike Noyes, 2001-05-19 07:14 -0700 > >We agree the package tree needs categories. Now the hard part, what should > >they be? I think we need a "scripts" category. I have my doubts about > >using a "net" category, because most of our packages fit into it. >

Re: [Leaf-devel] Proposed CVS Structure

2001-05-20 Thread George Metz
On Sat, 19 May 2001, Mike Noyes wrote: > George, > We now have two methods for the cvs package directory. >A) tarball plus diff with a makefile >B) import original source and modify using cvs to create diffs > > Should we allow developers to use the method they prefer for packages they >

Re: [Leaf-devel] Proposed CVS Structure

2001-05-19 Thread Mike Noyes
Mike Noyes, 2001-05-19 07:14 -0700 >We agree the package tree needs categories. Now the hard part, what should >they be? I think we need a "scripts" category. I have my doubts about >using a "net" category, because most of our packages fit into it. Everyone, What about the following four catego

Re: [Leaf-devel] Proposed CVS Structure

2001-05-19 Thread Mike Noyes
Ewald Wasscher, 2001-05-18 19:40 +0200 >David Douthitt wrote: > >>George Metz wrote: >> >>>On Thu, 17 May 2001, Mike Noyes wrote: >>> We have over 100 packages that I'm aware of. I'm sure that number will increase once we start importing packages into cvs. I think the packages tree mig

Re: [Leaf-devel] Proposed CVS Structure

2001-05-19 Thread Mike Noyes
George Metz, 2001-05-17 18:27 -0400 >On Thu, 17 May 2001, Mike Noyes wrote: > > > Ewald, > > Would this make it more difficult for us to track our changes to the > > original tarballs? > >That's fairly trivial to solve though; just do a cleanroom tree that >contains the original, as-released, unmo

Re: [Leaf-devel] Proposed CVS Structure

2001-05-18 Thread Ewald Wasscher
David Douthitt wrote: >George Metz wrote: > >>On Thu, 17 May 2001, Mike Noyes wrote: >> >>>We have over 100 packages that I'm aware of. I'm sure that number will >>>increase once we start importing packages into cvs. I think the packages >>>tree might get cluttered without categories. >>> >>Agree

Re: [Leaf-devel] Proposed CVS Structure

2001-05-18 Thread David Douthitt
George Metz wrote: > > On Thu, 17 May 2001, Mike Noyes wrote: > > We have over 100 packages that I'm aware of. I'm sure that number will > > increase once we start importing packages into cvs. I think the packages > > tree might get cluttered without categories. > > Agreed. Go take a stroll thr

Re: [Leaf-devel] Proposed CVS Structure

2001-05-17 Thread George Metz
On Thu, 17 May 2001, Mike Noyes wrote: > Ewald, > Would this make it more difficult for us to track our changes to the > original tarballs? That's fairly trivial to solve though; just do a cleanroom tree that contains the original, as-released, unmodified source. Then you can diff the cleanroom

Re: [Leaf-devel] Proposed CVS Structure

2001-05-17 Thread Mike Noyes
Ewald Wasscher, 2001-05-17 22:33 +0200 >Everybody, > >I forget to mention that with *BSD you can check out the source code from >CVS and "simply" do something like: > >root@mybsd:/usr/src # make world > >And rebuild the entire system from scratch. I think that is so _very_ >cool. That is one mor

Re: [Leaf-devel] Proposed CVS Structure

2001-05-17 Thread Ewald Wasscher
Everybody, I forget to mention that with *BSD you can check out the source code from CVS and "simply" do something like: root@mybsd:/usr/src # make world And rebuild the entire system from scratch. I think that is so _very_ cool. That is one more reason why I prefer to have the full source co

Re: [Leaf-devel] Proposed CVS Structure

2001-05-16 Thread Mike Noyes
Ewald Wasscher, 2001-05-16 19:13 +0200 >Mike Noyes wrote: > >>Everyone, >>I'm going to create the following directories in CVS on Thursday, unless >>there are objections. > >It's a little late perhaps, but I wonder about the usefulness of using cvs >for storing tarballs and diff files. That woul

Re: [Leaf-devel] Proposed CVS Structure

2001-05-16 Thread Ewald Wasscher
Mike Noyes wrote: > Everyone, > I'm going to create the following directories in CVS on Thursday, > unless there are objections. > > /release + > + /eigerstein > + /ladybug > + /oxygen > + /quercus > > /script + > + /weblet > + (etc.) > > /pack

Re: [Leaf-devel] Proposed CVS Structure

2001-05-08 Thread Mike Noyes
Ewald Wasscher, 2001-05-06 09:50 +0200 >Mike Noyes wrote: >I created the following trees in our CVS repository today. There are >README files in each tree describing the proposed content. >>doc >>package >>release >>http://cvs.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/leaf/ >>I didn't do anything else,

Re: [Leaf-devel] Proposed CVS Structure

2001-05-06 Thread Mike Noyes
George Metz, 2001-05-06 10:34 -0400 >On Sun, 6 May 2001, Ewald Wasscher wrote: > > > Reaching such a consensus is imho on of the most important (if not the > > most) things right now. So whatever agreements we make, we should make > > them. > >Agreed. > > > And preferably the discussion shouldn't

Re: [Leaf-devel] Proposed CVS Structure

2001-05-06 Thread George Metz
On Sun, 6 May 2001, Ewald Wasscher wrote: > Reaching such a consensus is imho on of the most important (if not the > most) things right now. So whatever agreements we make, we should make > them. Agreed. > And preferably the discussion shouldn't be a 3 man discussion as > it has been until now.

Re: [Leaf-devel] Proposed CVS Structure

2001-05-06 Thread Ewald Wasscher
Mike Noyes wrote: > Everyone, > I created the following trees in our CVS repository today. There are > README files in each tree describing the proposed content. > > doc > package > release > http://cvs.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/leaf/ > > I didn't do anything else, because the discus

Re: [Leaf-devel] Proposed CVS Structure

2001-05-05 Thread Mike Noyes
Everyone, I created the following trees in our CVS repository today. There are README files in each tree describing the proposed content. doc package release http://cvs.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/leaf/ I didn't do anything else, because the discussion on package tree hasn't reached a

Re: [Leaf-devel] Proposed CVS Structure

2001-05-03 Thread ssrat
On 3 May 2001, at 10:44, Ewald Wasscher wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > I wound up using whatever diffs [for ash that] > > Erik [Andersen] had. > Fair enough. If you could send me the diff that converts the makefile to > gnu-make style I'd be thankful. Everything should be in the Oxygen

Re: [Leaf-devel] Proposed CVS Structure

2001-05-03 Thread Ewald Wasscher
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On 2 May 2001, at 15:18, Ewald Wasscher wrote: > >> I have to agree with that to a great extent. But many programs use a >> "configure" script to configure the source tree to be built with certain >> options. I really prefer to have a script in the diff that calls th

Re: [Leaf-devel] Proposed CVS Structure

2001-05-02 Thread ssrat
On 2 May 2001, at 15:18, Ewald Wasscher wrote: > I have to agree with that to a great extent. But many programs use a > "configure" script to configure the source tree to be built with certain > options. I really prefer to have a script in the diff that calls this > configure script to doing t

Re: [Leaf-devel] Proposed CVS Structure

2001-05-02 Thread jdnewmil
On Wed, 2 May 2001, Ewald Wasscher wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] > > What I had in mind was to do the same thing, but with patched sources > > - and thus then create a package at the same time. > > > I would like to keep the lrp-specific things as seperate as possible > from the or

Re: [Leaf-devel] Proposed CVS Structure

2001-05-02 Thread Mike Noyes
Ewald Wasscher, 2001-05-02 14:17 +0200 >Wow, now I need a break. And some coffee too :-) > >I hope it's a little clearer now what I want and why. If not I'll have to >do better. I'd _really_ like to know what people think about this, not >just you. Ewald, Thanks for the explanation. :) I'll sit

Re: [Leaf-devel] Proposed CVS Structure

2001-05-02 Thread Ewald Wasscher
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On 2 May 2001, at 13:23, Ewald Wasscher wrote: > >> If I understand correctly how David does this it's not necessarily >> obvious to someone other than David how a program is configured, and how >> it is built, what files to use in the .lrp package, and what lrp >>

Re: [Leaf-devel] Proposed CVS Structure

2001-05-02 Thread ssrat
On 2 May 2001, at 13:23, Ewald Wasscher wrote: > If I understand correctly how David does this it's not necessarily > obvious to someone other than David how a program is configured, and how > it is built, what files to use in the .lrp package, and what lrp > specific configs need to be added

Re: [Leaf-devel] Proposed CVS Structure

2001-05-02 Thread Ewald Wasscher
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On 1 May 2001, at 15:19, Ewald Wasscher wrote: > >> Wouldn't it be a good idea to have a default way of building packages, >> like Debian? With Debian you can cd into the upacked/patched source >> directory and do a dpkg-buildpackage -b and voila! a binary package >

Re: [Leaf-devel] Proposed CVS Structure

2001-05-02 Thread Ewald Wasscher
Mike Noyes wrote: > Ewald Wasscher, 2001-05-01 20:24 +0200 > >> Mike Noyes wrote: >> David proposed something like this already. Take a look at this patch. >> >>> Source code + diffs for CVS >>> https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=412704&group_id=13751 >>> \ >>> &atid=313751 >> >

Re: [Leaf-devel] Proposed CVS Structure

2001-05-01 Thread ssrat
On 1 May 2001, at 15:19, Ewald Wasscher wrote: > Wouldn't it be a good idea to have a default way of building packages, > like Debian? With Debian you can cd into the upacked/patched source > directory and do a dpkg-buildpackage -b and voila! a binary package > appears after a while. So we cou

Re: [Leaf-devel] Proposed CVS Structure

2001-05-01 Thread Mike Noyes
Ewald Wasscher, 2001-05-01 20:24 +0200 >Mike Noyes wrote: >David proposed something like this already. Take a look at this patch. >>Source code + diffs for CVS >>https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=412704&group_id=13751 \ >>&atid=313751 > >I like the basic idea a lot. What I don't lik

Re: [Leaf-devel] Proposed CVS Structure

2001-05-01 Thread Ewald Wasscher
Mike Noyes wrote: > Ewald Wasscher, 2001-05-01 16:11 +0200 > >> Mike Noyes wrote: >> >>> The package tree will mimic the Debian source tree. Diff files >>> should not be gziped. Other than that minor change, do what Debian >>> does. >>> http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/dists/stable/main/sourc

Re: [Leaf-devel] Proposed CVS Structure

2001-05-01 Thread Mike Noyes
Ewald Wasscher, 2001-05-01 16:11 +0200 >Mike Noyes wrote: > >>The package tree will mimic the Debian source tree. Diff files should >>not be gziped. Other than that minor change, do what Debian does. >>http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/dists/stable/main/source/ >Wouldn't it be a good idea to have

Re: [Leaf-devel] Proposed CVS Structure

2001-05-01 Thread Ewald Wasscher
Mike Noyes wrote: > > The package tree will mimic the Debian source tree. Diff files should > not be gziped. Other than that minor change, do what Debian does. > http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/dists/stable/main/source/ > Wouldn't it be a good idea to have a default way of building packages,

Re: [Leaf-devel] Proposed CVS Structure

2001-04-30 Thread Ewald Wasscher
Mike Noyes wrote: > Everyone, > I'm going to create the following directories in CVS on Thursday, > unless there are objections. > > /release + > + /eigerstein > + /ladybug > + /oxygen > + /quercus Sorry I didn't mention it earlier, but I wonder if the name Que

Re: [Leaf-devel] Proposed CVS Structure

2001-04-30 Thread Mike Noyes
KP Kirchdörfer, 2001-04-30 19:38 +0200 >Am Montag, 30. April 2001 17:19 schrieben Sie: > > Everyone, > > I'm going to create the following directories in CVS on Thursday, > > unless there are objections. > > > > /release + > > + /eigerstein > > + /ladybug > > + /oxyge

Re: [Leaf-devel] Proposed CVS Structure

2001-04-30 Thread KP Kirchdörfer
Am Montag, 30. April 2001 17:19 schrieben Sie: > Everyone, > I'm going to create the following directories in CVS on Thursday, unless > there are objections. > > /release + > + /eigerstein > + /ladybug > + /oxygen > + /quercus > > /script + > + /web

Re: [Leaf-devel] Proposed CVS Structure

2001-04-30 Thread Mike Noyes
Mike Noyes, 2001-04-30 08:19 -0700 >/script + > + /weblet > + (etc.) > >I also want to remove the old website tree from CVS, and move weblet into >the script tree. Everyone, I wrote weblet when I should have written sh-httpd. I also forgot to add echowall to the script tree. He