[LEAPSECS] results from the UK dialog

2014-06-09 Thread Steve Allen
-report-final.pdf -- Steve Allen s...@ucolick.orgWGS-84 (GPS) UCO/Lick Observatory--ISB Natural Sciences II, Room 165Lat +36.99855 1156 High StreetVoice: +1 831 459 3046 Lng -122.06015 Santa Cruz, CA 95064http://www.ucolick.org

[LEAPSECS] UK public dialog workshop tweets

2014-06-13 Thread Steve Allen
The UK public dialog on leap seconds has tweeted to call for participation in its workshops. 2014-06-28: Belfast and Edinburgh https://twitter.com/LeapSecondsUK/status/476691257709035520 2014-07-05: Birmingham and Cardiff https://twitter.com/LeapSecondsUK/status/476691895469748225 -- Steve

[LEAPSECS] there was no leap second

2014-07-01 Thread Steve Allen
but at least one server saw its NTP server say there was https://twitter.com/theckman/status/483767831897440256 https://twitter.com/theckman/status/483785260920872960 -- Steve Allen s...@ucolick.orgWGS-84 (GPS) UCO/Lick Observatory--ISB Natural Sciences II, Room

[LEAPSECS] euro financial market clocks

2014-07-19 Thread Steve Allen
with respect to the reference clock? How often should any divergence be corrected? -- Steve Allen s...@ucolick.orgWGS-84 (GPS) UCO/Lick Observatory--ISB Natural Sciences II, Room 165Lat +36.99855 1156 High StreetVoice: +1 831 459 3046 Lng

[LEAPSECS] a big week for leaps at SG7 and WP7A

2014-09-29 Thread Steve Allen
/ReportOfTheIauWorkingGroupOnCoordinatedUniversalTime2014.pdf In large part the report covers the history of various IAU resolutions which led to the inception of leap seconds, so it is strange that before publishing the report the IAU prepended a disclaimer to the document. -- Steve Allen

[LEAPSECS] draft CPM report on UTC

2014-10-15 Thread Steve Allen
-bodies/wrc-15-agenda-item-114 -- Steve Allen s...@ucolick.orgWGS-84 (GPS) UCO/Lick Observatory--ISB Natural Sciences II, Room 165Lat +36.99855 1156 High StreetVoice: +1 831 459 3046 Lng -122.06015 Santa Cruz, CA 95064http

Re: [LEAPSECS] Changing the name of UTC

2014-10-16 Thread Steve Allen
with a character that would be welcomed by the systems which do not handle leap seconds well. -- Steve Allen s...@ucolick.orgWGS-84 (GPS) UCO/Lick Observatory--ISB Natural Sciences II, Room 165Lat +36.99855 1156 High StreetVoice: +1 831 459 3046 Lng

Re: [LEAPSECS] Changing the name of UTC

2014-10-17 Thread Steve Allen
atoms, and there are ways to count SI seconds while also keeping calendar days based on the earth. -- Steve Allen s...@ucolick.orgWGS-84 (GPS) UCO/Lick Observatory--ISB Natural Sciences II, Room 165Lat +36.99855 1156 High StreetVoice: +1 831 459 3046

Re: [LEAPSECS] Changing the name of UTC

2014-10-17 Thread Steve Allen
would rather see the ITU-R take that course than follow one based on fear and ignorance. -- Steve Allen s...@ucolick.orgWGS-84 (GPS) UCO/Lick Observatory--ISB Natural Sciences II, Room 165Lat +36.99855 1156 High StreetVoice: +1 831 459 3046

[LEAPSECS] remember the 5th of November

2014-10-23 Thread Steve Allen
https://attendee.gotowebinar.com/register/4610049207396358401 A webinar by the UK National Measurement Office will cover the public dialog on leap seconds. -- Steve Allen s...@ucolick.orgWGS-84 (GPS) UCO/Lick Observatory--ISB Natural Sciences II, Room 165Lat

[LEAPSECS] more glimpses into ITU

2014-10-25 Thread Steve Allen
This again contains what the Australian web page showed, that the WRC may be presented with options A, B, and C as ways of deciding what will happen to leap seconds. -- Steve Allen s...@ucolick.orgWGS-84 (GPS) UCO/Lick Observatory--ISB Natural Sciences II, Room 165

[LEAPSECS] the big artillery

2014-10-30 Thread Steve Allen
that the radio broadcast time signals *must* provide Universal Time. I wonder if the ITU-R process can go to its completion without introducing any document which points out that to omit leap seconds from a time scale called UTC is to redefine the word day. -- Steve Allen s...@ucolick.org

Re: [LEAPSECS] the big artillery

2014-11-01 Thread Steve Allen
that one technical time scale can serve two incompatible technical purposes. I expect that will result in yet another generation of confusion and flame wars, until all of the people and systems who know the current definition of Universal Time are gone. -- Steve Allen s

Re: [LEAPSECS] the big artillery

2014-11-04 Thread Steve Allen
the phrase Universal Time UT2 and does not use the term UTC. Today's animated discussions about unclear terminology and lack of congruence between agencies are nothing new. -- Steve Allen s...@ucolick.orgWGS-84 (GPS) UCO/Lick Observatory--ISB Natural Sciences II, Room 165

Re: [LEAPSECS] the big artillery

2014-11-04 Thread Steve Allen
= T(deg Fahrenheit) - T(deg Celsius) = 32 degrees and when the temperature reaches -40 then Delta T = 0 degrees That difference is not a temperature, just like Delta T for eclipse timing predictions is not a duration. -- Steve Allen s...@ucolick.orgWGS-84 (GPS

[LEAPSECS] historic clock offsets

2014-11-05 Thread Steve Allen
scary big, and I take them as powerful rationale that the IANA tz timezone project should make no effort to calculate sub-second offsets for far flung peoples. -- Steve Allen s...@ucolick.orgWGS-84 (GPS) UCO/Lick Observatory--ISB Natural Sciences II, Room 165Lat

Re: [LEAPSECS] the big artillery

2014-11-05 Thread Steve Allen
On Wed 2014-11-05T11:11:38 +, Tony Finch hath writ: Does anyone know where SOFA iauDat got its data for 1960 from? Because that predates the USNO table. By the way, which USNO table is that? I'm wondering if it is actually a reprint of the BIH table. -- Steve Allen s

Re: [LEAPSECS] the big artillery

2014-11-05 Thread Steve Allen
On Wed 2014-11-05T15:49:05 +, Tony Finch hath writ: Steve Allen s...@ucolick.org wrote: By the way, which USNO table is that? http://maia.usno.navy.mil/ser7/tai-utc.dat Yes, that is the table from the BIH, who were given responsibility for the coordination as of the beginning of 1961

Re: [LEAPSECS] the big artillery

2014-11-05 Thread Steve Allen
anything beyond Please don't call something you do TAI unless you are BIPM :). http://www.itu.int/rec/R-REC-TF.536/en TF.536 is not in force. It was suppressed on 2011-02-18 I think there might be some get off my lawn in the story behind that. -- Steve Allen s...@ucolick.org

Re: [LEAPSECS] IAU UTC report

2014-11-06 Thread Steve Allen
if it disappears from the current website, for if so, then it really will look like the IAU has taken a stand. -- Steve Allen s...@ucolick.orgWGS-84 (GPS) UCO/Lick Observatory--ISB Natural Sciences II, Room 165Lat +36.99855 1156 High StreetVoice: +1 831

Re: [LEAPSECS] IAU UTC report

2014-11-08 Thread Steve Allen
of earth rotation which is distinct from Atomic Time, and that UTC is appropriately named because it includes characteristics of both. Has the IAU taken a vote or produced a further statement at a General Assembly which changes (or even addresses) that definition of Universal Time? -- Steve Allen

Re: [LEAPSECS] [QUAR] Bulletin C and all that

2015-01-26 Thread Steve Allen
in the Metrologia article. The documents from the IAU and the CCIR were using different vocabularies for the radio broadcasts. So there is no surprise that the head of the BIPM later apologized about regrettable misunderstandings, especially between astronomers and physicists. -- Steve Allen

[LEAPSECS] the year 2100

2015-02-02 Thread Steve Allen
for its values. -- Steve Allen s...@ucolick.orgWGS-84 (GPS) UCO/Lick Observatory--ISB Natural Sciences II, Room 165Lat +36.99855 1156 High StreetVoice: +1 831 459 3046 Lng -122.06015 Santa Cruz, CA 95064http://www.ucolick.org/~sla

[LEAPSECS] final report of the UK leap seconds dialog

2015-02-04 Thread Steve Allen
The final report of the UK leap seconds dialog is at http://leapseconds.co.uk/reports-findings-dialogue/ Search for the word congestion where it looks as if it once had a footnote mentioning a system which has avoided leap second problems by adopting a purely atomic time scale. -- Steve Allen

Re: [LEAPSECS] stale leap second information

2015-01-14 Thread Steve Allen
in order to convert to local time. That makes the tzdist protocol into one-stop shopping for info about the offset from UTC as stored by whatever operating system. -- Steve Allen s...@ucolick.orgWGS-84 (GPS) UCO/Lick Observatory--ISB Natural Sciences II, Room 165

Re: [LEAPSECS] This year's Y2K: 'Leap second' threatens to break the Internet -Brooks

2015-01-15 Thread Steve Allen
in the literature. Pick your favaorite number. -- Steve Allen s...@ucolick.orgWGS-84 (GPS) UCO/Lick Observatory--ISB Natural Sciences II, Room 165Lat +36.99855 1156 High StreetVoice: +1 831 459 3046 Lng -122.06015 Santa Cruz, CA 95064

Re: [LEAPSECS] stale leap second information

2015-01-17 Thread Steve Allen
of leap seconds. -- Steve Allen s...@ucolick.orgWGS-84 (GPS) UCO/Lick Observatory--ISB Natural Sciences II, Room 165Lat +36.99855 1156 High StreetVoice: +1 831 459 3046 Lng -122.06015 Santa Cruz, CA 95064http://www.ucolick.org/~sla

Re: [LEAPSECS] Comments on predictions for this century

2015-01-17 Thread Steve Allen
practices of systems which are working okay rather than change things that affect the laws of member nations. -- Steve Allen s...@ucolick.orgWGS-84 (GPS) UCO/Lick Observatory--ISB Natural Sciences II, Room 165Lat +36.99855 1156 High StreetVoice: +1

Re: [LEAPSECS] content of the NTP-aimed leap-seconds.list files

2015-02-11 Thread Steve Allen
On Wed 2015-02-11T15:05:26 +0100, Steffen Nurpmeso hath writ: Steve Allen s...@ucolick.org wrote: |The IERS Paris bureau is also providing such a file. That makes at |least three separate sources for this information. Each source has a |different timestamp, a different expiration date

[LEAPSECS] Asia Pacific leap seconds

2015-02-10 Thread Steve Allen
Yesterday the Asia-Pacific Telecommunity held a 3 hour session in Bangkok on the ITU-R leap second issue as part of getting ready for the second conference preparatory meeting (CPM15-2) that will be held at the end of this month. http://www.aptsec.org/2015-APG15-4 -- Steve Allen

[LEAPSECS] CEPT ECC viewpoint on leap seconds

2015-01-27 Thread Steve Allen
The European CEPT Electronic Communications Committee ruminates on the leap second situation at ITU-R WRC-15 http://apps.ero.dk/eccnews/jan-2015/wrc-15-universal-time.html -- Steve Allen s...@ucolick.orgWGS-84 (GPS) UCO/Lick Observatory--ISB Natural Sciences II

Re: [LEAPSECS] The definition of a day

2015-01-29 Thread Steve Allen
of abandoning leap seconds affects the definition of the day. I haven't seen how the delegates can make an informed decision to forge a new agreement when they have inputs that do not contain analysis of of important technical, legal, and cultural aspects. -- Steve Allen s...@ucolick.org

Re: [LEAPSECS] Bulletin C and all that

2015-01-25 Thread Steve Allen
and US almanacs started the day at noon through 1924. Starting in 1925 the almanacs switched to the civil practice of starting the day at midnight. The citable references for these transitions are linked within http://www.ucolick.org/~sla/leapsecs/timescales.html -- Steve Allen s

Re: [LEAPSECS] Future Leap Seconds

2015-01-27 Thread Steve Allen
, IEEE 1588, BeiDou, and IRNSS and 'Just Say No' to UTC. -- Steve Allen s...@ucolick.orgWGS-84 (GPS) UCO/Lick Observatory--ISB Natural Sciences II, Room 165Lat +36.99855 1156 High StreetVoice: +1 831 459 3046 Lng -122.06015 Santa Cruz, CA

Re: [LEAPSECS] The leap second, deep space and how we keep time -Brooks

2015-01-27 Thread Steve Allen
this is irrelevant to the activities which will happen at ITU-R WRC-15, and I don't think that misdirecting attention will help the ITU-R decide what to do. -- Steve Allen s...@ucolick.orgWGS-84 (GPS) UCO/Lick Observatory--ISB Natural Sciences II, Room 165Lat

Re: [LEAPSECS] The leap second, deep space and how we keep time -Brooks

2015-01-27 Thread Steve Allen
in radio broadcast time signals will not fix devices which are claiming the existence of leap seconds which were never announced nor implemented by the radio broadcast time signals. The false servers in the NTP pool cannot be fixed by issuing a document. -- Steve Allen s

Re: [LEAPSECS] The leap second, deep space and how we keep time -Brooks

2015-01-28 Thread Steve Allen
, and very different from the random walk estimate of Matsakis at USNO. If there is a problem with my web pages I will be happy to debate it either publicly or discus it privately. -- Steve Allen s...@ucolick.orgWGS-84 (GPS) UCO/Lick Observatory--ISB Natural Sciences II

Re: [LEAPSECS] leap in june

2015-01-10 Thread Steve Allen
it. NTP and the NTP pool are more robust too, so that will be better. But there were other problems that nobody has talked about openly, and nothing in the current versions of the Linux kernel is going to fix those. -- Steve Allen s...@ucolick.orgWGS-84 (GPS) UCO/Lick

Re: [LEAPSECS] leap in june

2015-01-10 Thread Steve Allen
On Sat 2015-01-10T05:59:39 -0800, Steve Allen hath writ: other problems that nobody has talked about openly, and nothing in the current versions of the Linux kernel is going to fix those. In case anyone is talking with news media there is an easy-to-grok demo of the chaotic handling of the most

[LEAPSECS] tzdist, handling leap seconds via timezones

2015-01-11 Thread Steve Allen
a time zone. Last week I submitted a few examples of how that could work http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/tzdist/current/msg01215.html -- Steve Allen s...@ucolick.orgWGS-84 (GPS) UCO/Lick Observatory--ISB Natural Sciences II, Room 165Lat +36.99855 1156

Re: [LEAPSECS] stale leap second information

2015-01-12 Thread Steve Allen
-offset-from: 0, utc-offset-to: -10 }, That expiration data is inherent in the tzdist protocol as a way of making it clear that the timezone data have limited valid range. -- Steve Allen s...@ucolick.orgWGS-84 (GPS) UCO/Lick Observatory--ISB Natural Sciences

Re: [LEAPSECS] stale leap second information

2015-01-12 Thread Steve Allen
# #@ 3660249600 -- Steve Allen s...@ucolick.orgWGS-84 (GPS) UCO/Lick Observatory--ISB Natural Sciences II, Room 165Lat +36.99855 1156 High StreetVoice: +1 831 459 3046 Lng -122.06015 Santa Cruz, CA 95064http://www.ucolick.org

Re: [LEAPSECS] stale leap second information

2015-01-12 Thread Steve Allen
On Mon 2015-01-12T07:10:23 -0800, Steve Allen hath writ: at the moment the most reliable source is probably the IANA TimeZone Database https://www.iana.org/time-zones That comes with a caveat that it does not instantly respond to the changes, so the most recent release is 2014j from November

Re: [LEAPSECS] stale leap second information

2015-01-12 Thread Steve Allen
On Mon 2015-01-12T12:14:22 -0800, Steve Allen hath writ: The new version which is in github reads # Updated through IERS Bulletin C49 # File expires on: 28 December 2015 # #@ 3660249600 but also, the new version of the NIST leap-seconds.list file which is included

Re: [LEAPSECS] This year's Y2K: 'Leap second' threatens to break the Internet -Brooks

2015-01-13 Thread Steve Allen
the decision was not only of a technical nature but had some regulatory and legal consequences. -- Steve Allen s...@ucolick.orgWGS-84 (GPS) UCO/Lick Observatory--ISB Natural Sciences II, Room 165Lat +36.99855 1156 High StreetVoice: +1 831 459 3046

Re: [LEAPSECS] stale leap second information

2015-01-13 Thread Steve Allen
-- Steve Allen s...@ucolick.orgWGS-84 (GPS) UCO/Lick Observatory--ISB Natural Sciences II, Room 165Lat +36.99855 1156 High StreetVoice: +1 831 459 3046 Lng -122.06015 Santa Cruz, CA 95064http://www.ucolick.org/~sla/ Hgt +250 m

[LEAPSECS] content of the NTP-aimed leap-seconds.list files

2015-02-10 Thread Steve Allen
these with the DNS mechanisms being developed on LEAPSECS leads me to wonder ... Are there other features which would be desirable as part of a file intended to robustly communicate the full known history of leap seconds? -- Steve Allen s...@ucolick.orgWGS-84 (GPS) UCO

[LEAPSECS] USNO on NPR

2015-02-18 Thread Steve Allen
Demetrios Matsakis with Robin Young of WBUR's Here and Now http://hereandnow.wbur.org/2015/02/18/leap-second-time -- Steve Allen s...@ucolick.orgWGS-84 (GPS) UCO/Lick Observatory--ISB Natural Sciences II, Room 165Lat +36.99855 1156 High Street

Re: [LEAPSECS] My FOSDEM slides

2015-03-06 Thread Steve Allen
. -- Steve Allen s...@ucolick.orgWGS-84 (GPS) UCO/Lick Observatory--ISB Natural Sciences II, Room 165Lat +36.99855 1156 High StreetVoice: +1 831 459 3046 Lng -122.06015 Santa Cruz, CA 95064http://www.ucolick.org/~sla/ Hgt +250 m

[LEAPSECS] ITU-R CPM15-2

2015-03-10 Thread Steve Allen
of the existing draft. Those are from United States Russia UK China UAE, Algeria, Egypt, Jordan, Qatar, Sudan Germany I think this is an unprecedented level of active participation. So it seems the CPM will be doing a lot of wordsmithing on the document to be presented for a vote at WRC. -- Steve Allen

Re: [LEAPSECS] Civil timekeeping before 1 January 1972

2015-03-07 Thread Steve Allen
to some other timescale depending on the purpose at hand. Exactly so. Before 1972 civil time was not SI seconds. -- Steve Allen s...@ucolick.orgWGS-84 (GPS) UCO/Lick Observatory--ISB Natural Sciences II, Room 165Lat +36.99855 1156 High StreetVoice

Re: [LEAPSECS] My FOSDEM slides

2015-03-06 Thread Steve Allen
calibrated. And then they must be reduced by going back to look at, e.g. https://plus.google.com/photos/112320138481375234766/albums/6078225731350227361 Please don't try to make this part of a General Timestamp API. Before 1972, for a general API, there is just UT. -- Steve Allen s

Re: [LEAPSECS] Civil timekeeping before 1 January 1972

2015-03-13 Thread Steve Allen
1.14 there are going to be a whole bunch of delegations arguing over the meaning of calendar day with some insisting that it is related to the rotation of the earth and others denying the validity of the question. -- Steve Allen s...@ucolick.orgWGS-84 (GPS) UCO/Lick

[LEAPSECS] a Japanese leap smear?

2015-03-04 Thread Steve Allen
It looks like Kyushu Telecommunication network is considering its own version of the leap smear http://www.slideshare.net/apnic/the-leap-second-is-coming-by-tomonori-takada-apricot-2015 -- Steve Allen s...@ucolick.orgWGS-84 (GPS) UCO/Lick Observatory--ISB

Re: [LEAPSECS] epoch of TAI, and TAI vis a vis GPS

2015-03-04 Thread Steve Allen
On Wed 2015-03-04T07:42:46 +, michael.deckers via LEAPSECS hath writ: On 2015-03-04 02:23, Steve Allen wrote on the Getting meaninglessly pedantic, in Survey Review v19 #143 p7 (1967) A.R. Robins had been talking with Sadler and Smith and with that information in hand he wrote

[LEAPSECS] epoch of TAI, and TAI vis a vis GPS

2015-03-03 Thread Steve Allen
as an alternative time reference. Without the assent of the BIPM it is hard for there to be an agreed upon name for real-time versions of time scales that are trying to track the value of TAI (which will not actually be available until the next issue of Circular T). -- Steve Allen s

Re: [LEAPSECS] My FOSDEM slides

2015-03-04 Thread Steve Allen
, and restarted over a second later -- or kept on disk and replicated and restarted even later, multiple times. What happens with a negative leap second is a lot like what happens to non-real-time processes and machines as a routine part of operation. -- Steve Allen s...@ucolick.org

Re: [LEAPSECS] Bulletin C and all that

2015-01-25 Thread Steve Allen
standard for a time scale, but it does conform to the actual number of seconds which have been broadcast by transmissions which have followed CCIR and ITU-R recommendations. -- Steve Allen s...@ucolick.orgWGS-84 (GPS) UCO/Lick Observatory--ISB Natural Sciences II, Room

[LEAPSECS] financial markets

2015-04-26 Thread Steve Allen
Recommendation 460, that is a complete lack of concern for the distinction between UTC and GMT. The CCIR were wrong when they thought they could solve all problems with a single time scale where nobody but the Time Lords would ever have to worry about the difference. -- Steve Allen

Re: [LEAPSECS] Question about UT1 and the IERS Reference Meridian

2015-04-29 Thread Steve Allen
in favor of more precise modern techniques. -- Steve Allen s...@ucolick.org WGS-84 (GPS) UCO/Lick Observatory--ISB Natural Sciences II, Room 165 Lat +36.99855 1156 High StreetVoice: +1 831 459 3046 Lng -122.06015 Santa Cruz, CA 95064http

Re: [LEAPSECS] LOD and gravity connected ?

2015-04-29 Thread Steve Allen
that they could not consider re-reducing the older observations to the newer system. Everyone just had to hope that any shifts/discontinuities due to the change of techniques and models were inconsequentially small. -- Steve Allen s...@ucolick.org WGS-84 (GPS) UCO/Lick

[LEAPSECS] W1K GPS rollover for some time servers

2015-05-03 Thread Steve Allen
the blame! -- Steve Allen s...@ucolick.org WGS-84 (GPS) UCO/Lick Observatory--ISB Natural Sciences II, Room 165 Lat +36.99855 1156 High StreetVoice: +1 831 459 3046 Lng -122.06015 Santa Cruz, CA 95064http://www.ucolick.org/~sla/Hgt +250

Re: [LEAPSECS] W1K GPS rollover for some time servers

2015-05-03 Thread Steve Allen
are another. And as Boeing has just revealed about the 787, counting past 2**31 centiseconds is another. Bugs will always happen. -- Steve Allen s...@ucolick.org WGS-84 (GPS) UCO/Lick Observatory--ISB Natural Sciences II, Room 165 Lat +36.99855 1156 High Street

Re: [LEAPSECS] Question about UT1 and the IERS Reference Meridian

2015-04-29 Thread Steve Allen
overhead at noon UT1 is 0.18 s farther east than the International Reference Meridian. -- Steve Allen s...@ucolick.org WGS-84 (GPS) UCO/Lick Observatory--ISB Natural Sciences II, Room 165 Lat +36.99855 1156 High StreetVoice: +1 831 459 3046 Lng

Re: [LEAPSECS] Civil timekeeping before 1 January 1972

2015-05-05 Thread Steve Allen
with decimals to 0.1 microsecond, or 100 nanoseconds. I don't believe 3 ns is significant for any time stamp from that era. Right. There is no record of the available time scales that can say anything about the time differences at that level. -- Steve Allen s...@ucolick.org

Re: [LEAPSECS] W1K GPS rollover for some time servers

2015-05-05 Thread Steve Allen
-ietf-tzdist-service/ We choose to use those for time zones, and if at WRC-15 the ITU-R chooses to preserve the rotation of the earth as the basis for the calendar day then we can choose to use those protocols for leap seconds. -- Steve Allen s...@ucolick.org WGS-84

[LEAPSECS] oh, lookie! Method D

2015-05-06 Thread Steve Allen
of the studies are inconclusive. -- Steve Allen s...@ucolick.org WGS-84 (GPS) UCO/Lick Observatory--ISB Natural Sciences II, Room 165 Lat +36.99855 1156 High StreetVoice: +1 831 459 3046 Lng -122.06015 Santa Cruz, CA 95064http

[LEAPSECS] more financial preparation

2015-05-13 Thread Steve Allen
/ArchiveServlet?issueid=CCE8E0F3-D604-4341-847D-2450912C7378lmid=archives https://attendee.gotowebinar.com/register/7459379719283518978 about the leap second, preparedness, regulatory issues, etc. -- Steve Allen s...@ucolick.org WGS-84 (GPS) UCO/Lick Observatory--ISB

Re: [LEAPSECS] more financial preparation

2015-05-18 Thread Steve Allen
On Wed 2015-05-13T07:37:17 -0700, Steve Allen hath writ: FIA deals with financial futures, options, derivatives and is preparing for the leap second. https://fia.org/articles/fia-response-2015-leap-second-event Which has moved to https://fia.org/articles/fia-coordinates-industry-preparations

[LEAPSECS] impending leap second issues

2015-04-14 Thread Steve Allen
with firmware 3.906 or lower OEM6 receivers with firmware 6.100(OEM060100RN) or lower http://www.novatel.com/assets/Documents/Bulletins/2015-Leap-Second.pdf Avaya AIC 7.2.x AIC 7.3.X for Windows/Solaris and AIX platforms https://downloads.avaya.com/css/P8/documents/101009257 -- Steve Allen

[LEAPSECS] leap smears in Linux kernel mail list

2015-06-04 Thread Steve Allen
An issue with the Linux kernel handling of leap seconds was revealed at the end of May. The discussion thread in the LKML mentions ways of codifying smears. https://lkml.org/lkml/2015/6/3/891 -- Steve Allen s...@ucolick.org WGS-84 (GPS) UCO/Lick Observatory--ISB

Re: [LEAPSECS] Actual versus legal duration makes programming hard

2015-06-02 Thread Steve Allen
interoperable implementations before they approve a standard. -- Steve Allen s...@ucolick.org WGS-84 (GPS) UCO/Lick Observatory--ISB Natural Sciences II, Room 165 Lat +36.99855 1156 High StreetVoice: +1 831 459 3046 Lng -122.06015 Santa Cruz, CA 95064

Re: [LEAPSECS] 'right' zone in tzdata on Linux

2015-06-22 Thread Steve Allen
actually kindof hard, because I know of no standard time package which will do it. Pictures of this at http://www.ucolick.org/~sla/leapsecs/amsci.html -- Steve Allen s...@ucolick.org WGS-84 (GPS) UCO/Lick Observatory--ISB Natural Sciences II, Room 165 Lat +36.99855

[LEAPSECS] US Department of Homeland Security

2015-05-28 Thread Steve Allen
CGSIC is echoing a Department of Homeland Security document about the impending leap second. http://www.navcen.uscg.gov/pdf/cgsic/Leap_Second_Best_Practices_20150526_Intrl_Version.pdf -- Steve Allen s...@ucolick.org WGS-84 (GPS) UCO/Lick Observatory--ISB Natural

Re: [LEAPSECS] Actual versus legal duration makes programming hard

2015-06-01 Thread Steve Allen
work without any choices. -- Steve Allen s...@ucolick.org WGS-84 (GPS) UCO/Lick Observatory--ISB Natural Sciences II, Room 165 Lat +36.99855 1156 High StreetVoice: +1 831 459 3046 Lng -122.06015 Santa Cruz, CA 95064http

[LEAPSECS] authoritative tz project info

2015-06-01 Thread Steve Allen
because the denizens there have memory of many of the crazy things that local officials have declared during the history of the tz project. -- Steve Allen s...@ucolick.org WGS-84 (GPS) UCO/Lick Observatory--ISB Natural Sciences II, Room 165 Lat +36.99855 1156 High

Re: [LEAPSECS] Google, Amazon, now Microsoft

2015-05-29 Thread Steve Allen
irrelevant. This a huge gulf between the sysadmins, their regulators who have required the use of UTC rather than TAI or GPS, and the precice time and frequency communities. -- Steve Allen s...@ucolick.org WGS-84 (GPS) UCO/Lick Observatory--ISB Natural Sciences II

Re: [LEAPSECS] Google, Amazon, now Microsoft

2015-05-31 Thread Steve Allen
writes, this next leap should be very interesting. -- Steve Allen s...@ucolick.org WGS-84 (GPS) UCO/Lick Observatory--ISB Natural Sciences II, Room 165 Lat +36.99855 1156 High StreetVoice: +1 831 459 3046 Lng -122.06015 Santa Cruz, CA 95064

Re: [LEAPSECS] Actual versus legal duration makes programming hard

2015-06-02 Thread Steve Allen
On Mon 2015-06-01T17:36:34 +, Poul-Henning Kamp hath writ: In message 20150601172537.gc14...@ucolick.org, Steve Allen writes: We need a resolution of the issue so that the out-of-the-box defaults can just work without any choices. I'm happy that you have finally realized why some parties

Re: [LEAPSECS] Look Before You Leap ? The Coming Leap Second and AWS | Hacker News

2015-05-21 Thread Steve Allen
other details to be handled outside the kernel in the libraries and applications. If that decision for the kind of day is any form of Universal Time then, over the long span of time, POSIX is counting mean solar seconds, not SI seconds. -- Steve Allen s...@ucolick.org

[LEAPSECS] state of the leap

2015-08-01 Thread Steve Allen
-briefs-and-ecps-for-wrc-15 Method A is supported by France. Method C is supported by Russia. I am certain that the diplomats are continuing to negotiate. -- Steve Allen s...@ucolick.org WGS-84 (GPS) UCO/Lick Observatory--ISB Natural Sciences II, Room 165 Lat

Re: [LEAPSECS] Cisco testing leapseconds now ?

2015-10-24 Thread Steve Allen
p seconds in new and old Cisco equipment. There's a whole series of notes on other Cisco boxes. -- Steve Allen <s...@ucolick.org> WGS-84 (GPS) UCO/Lick Observatory--ISB Natural Sciences II, Room 165 Lat +36.99855 1156 High StreetVoice: +1 831 459 30

[LEAPSECS] RA & WRC 15, AI 1.14, leap second alliances

2015-10-24 Thread Steve Allen
from Asia-Pacific Telecommunity R15-WRC15-C-0032!A14!MSW-E.docx which prefers method A1, rejects method B, and cautions about A2. -- Steve Allen <s...@ucolick.org> WGS-84 (GPS) UCO/Lick Observatory--ISB Natural Sciences II, Room 165 Lat +36.99855 1156 High

[LEAPSECS] And so it begins ...

2015-10-28 Thread Steve Allen
... the press coverage of WRC-15 and the leap second http://spectrum.ieee.org/tech-talk/computing/networks/leap-second-heads-into-fierce-debate -- Steve Allen <s...@ucolick.org> WGS-84 (GPS) UCO/Lick Observatory--ISB Natural Sciences II, Room 165 Lat +36

Re: [LEAPSECS] What happened in the late 1990s to slow the rate of leap seconds?

2015-11-08 Thread Steve Allen
msci.html For a historic view of the LOD going back 2000 years look at the plots on http://www.ucolick.org/~sla/leapsecs/dutc.html -- Steve Allen <s...@ucolick.org> WGS-84 (GPS) UCO/Lick Observatory--ISB Natural Sciences II, Room 165 Lat +36.99855 1156 High Street

Re: [LEAPSECS] What happened in the late 1990s to slow the rate of leap seconds?

2015-11-13 Thread Steve Allen
ations in LOD that happen on a weekly basis due to weather. Folks in the earth rotation bureaus want to see a detectable earthquake-induced LOD change so that they can publish, but I haven't seen such a paper. I believe that it is easier to find the effect of a large snowstorm in the LOD data. --

[LEAPSECS] UK leap seconds public dialog site

2015-11-15 Thread Steve Allen
A casual glance demonstrates that nobody is maintaining the blog content at the UK Public Dialog on Leap Seconds. http://leapseconds.co.uk/discuss/general-discussion/ -- Steve Allen <s...@ucolick.org> WGS-84 (GPS) UCO/Lick Observatory--ISB Natural Scien

Re: [LEAPSECS] And so it begins ...

2015-10-29 Thread Steve Allen
vented a regional position from being reached. -- Steve Allen <s...@ucolick.org> WGS-84 (GPS) UCO/Lick Observatory--ISB Natural Sciences II, Room 165 Lat +36.99855 1156 High StreetVoice: +1 831 459 3046 Lng -122.06015 Santa Cruz, CA 95064

[LEAPSECS] WRC 15, AI 1.14, leap second scorecard

2015-10-31 Thread Steve Allen
Spectrum Management Group (ASMG) http://www.itu.int/md/R15-WRC15-C-0025/en They want no change [ 62 ] 2015-10-15 China (People's Republic of) http://www.itu.int/md/R15-WRC15-C-0062/en They support A1 -- Steve Allen <s...@ucolick.org> WGS-84 (GPS) UCO/Lick Obser

Re: [LEAPSECS] countdown to WRC-15, CEPT ECC CPG

2015-10-05 Thread Steve Allen
as had no luck getting the attention of her own nation's delegation and she wrote to here wondering if we knew a way. I had to write sadly that I suspect that most of the cooperating organizations have already had their deadlines for setting up credentials for WRC. -- Steve Allen

[LEAPSECS] dismaying news

2015-11-17 Thread Steve Allen
of an international recommendation. -- Steve Allen <s...@ucolick.org> WGS-84 (GPS) UCO/Lick Observatory--ISB Natural Sciences II, Room 165 Lat +36.99855 1156 High StreetVoice: +1 831 459 3046 Lng -122.06015 Santa Cruz, CA 95064

[LEAPSECS] countdown to WRC-15

2015-08-29 Thread Steve Allen
there. In particular the one on http://www.itu.int/md/R15-WRC15PREPWORK-C-0008/en has a chart on page 13 which shows the currently known positions of the regional groups. There is no consensus. -- Steve Allen s...@ucolick.org WGS-84 (GPS) UCO/Lick Observatory--ISB Natural

[LEAPSECS] countdown to WRC-15, CEPT ECC CPG

2015-10-04 Thread Steve Allen
of the agencies have no position, and others disagree, so no consensus is evident. -- Steve Allen <s...@ucolick.org> WGS-84 (GPS) UCO/Lick Observatory--ISB Natural Sciences II, Room 165 Lat +36.99855 1156 High StreetVoice: +1 831 459 3046 Lng -122

[LEAPSECS] WRC Final Acts

2015-12-05 Thread Steve Allen
can move toward a resolution of this issue. -- Steve Allen <s...@ucolick.org> WGS-84 (GPS) UCO/Lick Observatory--ISB Natural Sciences II, Room 165 Lat +36.99855 1156 High StreetVoice: +1 831 459 3046 Lng -122.06015 Santa Cruz, CA 95

Re: [LEAPSECS] Fwd: IERS Message No. 282: Coordinated Universal Time (UTC) to retain "leap second"

2015-11-23 Thread Steve Allen
solar time while preserving the words about meridian and longitude. The resulting text was incongruous nonsense trying to indicate some connection between longitude and atomic time. I hope the final result of WRC makes more sense than the proposal I saw. -- Steve Allen <s...@ucolick.or

[LEAPSECS] WRC-15 press release

2015-11-19 Thread Steve Allen
The news is official. Leaps until 2023, and more studies. https://www.itu.int/net/pressoffice/press_releases/2015/53.aspx -- Steve Allen <s...@ucolick.org> WGS-84 (GPS) UCO/Lick Observatory--ISB Natural Sciences II, Room 165 Lat +36.99855 1156 High

[LEAPSECS] midyear leap roundup

2016-06-17 Thread Steve Allen
hange") to the WRC-15. I surmise that the Department of State holds a grudge against any country which dared to oppose the "abolish leap seconds immediately" position of the US. -- Steve Allen<s...@ucolick.org> WGS-84 (GPS) UCO/Lick Observatory--ISB 260

Re: [LEAPSECS] leap seconds schedule prior to 1972

2016-04-11 Thread Steve Allen
f particular requirements. So this is cool, and may be applicable to some applications, but I'm not sure which ones those are. -- Steve Allen <s...@ucolick.org> WGS-84 (GPS) UCO/Lick Observatory--ISB Natural Sciences II, Room 165 Lat +36.99855 1156 High Stree

Re: [LEAPSECS] Leap Seconds schedule prior to 1972

2016-04-27 Thread Steve Allen
contemporary records of 500 years ago. -- Steve Allen <s...@ucolick.org> WGS-84 (GPS) UCO/Lick Observatory--ISB Natural Sciences II, Room 165 Lat +36.99855 1156 High StreetVoice: +1 831 459 3046 Lng -122.06015 Santa Cruz, CA 95064

Re: [LEAPSECS] Leap Seconds schedule prior to 1972

2016-04-23 Thread Steve Allen
years ago, so the notion of second had a contemporary meaning which was much more figurative than precise. -- Steve Allen <s...@ucolick.org> WGS-84 (GPS) UCO/Lick Observatory--ISB Natural Sciences II, Room 165 Lat +36.99855 1156 High StreetVoice

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