On Wed, 21 Dec 2005, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote:
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> I think the difference between you and me as a programmer is that
> if you make a mistake, some radio telescope bungles up an observation
> or worst case runs against a mechanical end-stop.
Or kills somebody. A telescope is as dangerous as any othe
Feliz Navidad!
My gift to all (not least myself) is to omit a reply to Mr. Kamp's
latest,
except...
3. Realize that the Earth is a lousy clock and go entirely atomic.
Or realize the Earth isn't a clock at all, but rather the thing being
timed.
If you don't care about time-of-day, why mark tim
On Mon, Dec 19, 2005 at 11:31:22PM +, Markus Kuhn wrote:
> Surely you are all very busy with last-second shopping for the many
> forthcoming leap second parties later this month.
>
> But what interesting things *are* there to do during a leap second?
Tom Van Baak has a bunch of ideas on his pa
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Ed Davies writes:
>Rob Seaman wrote:
>So I'd say there are really three options being debated:
>
>1. leap seconds.
>
>2a. leap hours.
>
>2b. give lip service to leap hours for now but actually be leap
> free in practice.
Four really, some of us say:
3. Realize
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Rob Seaman writes:
>On Dec 21, 2005, at 1:33 PM, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote:
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>> You can't separate software from "the real world" any more and
>> therefore "software must be responsive to real world issues" is
>> about as meaningless as saying "timber must respect th
On Dec 21, 2005, at 1:33 PM, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote:
I think the difference between you and me as a programmer is that
if you make a mistake, some radio telescope bungles up an
observation or worst case runs against a mechanical end-stop. If I
make a mistake in FreeBSD millions of machines may
Rob Seaman wrote:
... Two options are currently being debated - leap
seconds or leap hours. ...
Yes - but I thought there was the idea floating around that in
practice the powers that be would chicken out before actually
implementing the leap hour. Instead they'd leave international
civil ti
I have an audio tape that I recorded of a prior leap second from the BBC World
Service radio, and they do have seven pips. It's a nice combination of the old
and new, starting with the Westminster Chimes, the pips, and finally the
strike of Big Ben.
--
I've started "watching" the upcoming leap s
Yes, the BBC will broadcast seven pips instead of the usual six.
However, I leave it to someone else to verify this by direct
observation, because my return flight from the western United States
lands in London at 11 a.m. GMT on 31 December, and the combination
of travel fatigue and the need to ad
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Markus Kuhn writes:
>But what interesting things *are* there to do during a leap second?
I'm going to record all the bits and waves I can doing the leap
second, and I have asked the GNUradio, NTP and time-nuts communities
to please help me do so.
With a little luc
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Rob Seaman writes:
>On Dec 21, 2005, at 3:06 AM, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote:
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>> It must be wonderful to live in a world where software can just be
>> ignored or marginalized at whim, I really envy you.
>
>Sarcasm, right?
yes, deeply.
>Software IS a marginal activity
On Mon, Dec 19, 2005 at 11:31:22PM +, Markus Kuhn wrote:
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> http://washingtontimes.com/upi/20050707-090936-2878r.htm
It would take of course, people as pedantic as those of us who have an
interest in a leap second to point out that the article is wrong in its
claim that " This year, 2005, wil
On Dec 21, 2005, at 3:06 AM, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote:
It must be wonderful to live in a world where software can just be
ignored or marginalized at whim, I really envy you.
Sarcasm, right?
Software IS a marginal activity - I say this as a programmer. There
is no point to software that doesn'
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In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Francois Meyer writes:
>On Tue, 20 Dec 2005, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote:
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>> In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>on.fr>, Francois Meyer writes
>> :
>>
>> >I second this too, 23:59:59 is the worst time to
>> >insert a leap second, since failing to implement it
>> >leave
On Tue, 20 Dec 2005, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote:
> In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Francois Meyer writes
> :
>
> >I second this too, 23:59:59 is the worst time to
> >insert a leap second, since failing to implement it
> >leaves you with the wrong day (month and possibly
> >year) at the very s
- Original Message -
From: "Tom Van Baak" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2005 5:09 PM
Subject: Re: [LEAPSECS] Schreiver AFB warns about leapsec
> > > While you're at it let's change when leaps occur; not
> > > just at 23:59:59
> > > ...
> > I second this too, 23:59:5
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