och
would just add to the confusion, not make things simpler in practice.
People still need to know UTC, and transmitting the leap second table
info, especially via autokey, is much more complex than the basic
protocol. But at least this is a standards process conducted in the
open, where you c
utlined.
I'd like to see a standard for NTP that includes the TAI information
that is now passed in non-standard formats, but that is a separable
issue.
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/en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Nealmcb
And note that it is good practice to discuss major or controvertial
proposed changes to, e.g. the leap seconds page, at the associated
discussion page, e.g.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Leap_second
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y of presenting things from a
"Neutral Pointof View" (NPOV):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Neutral_point_of_view
So would folks be willing to collaborate at
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leap_second
and related pages?
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ssue comes down to what the "Civil" time standard is. If it is
changed to a uniform scale like TAI, we will need broad worldwide
consensus, and a lot of lead time.
But regardless, we need to make TAI available more easily.
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ng that auditing the flow of time data between them
would get more and more complex for a long time.
To sum it up, PLEASE don't fundamentally change the DEFINITION of UTC,
or you risk whole new kinds of confusion. Hopefully by now the folks
on this list that don't like leap se
tations will check the bottom 8 bits
> for identity and fail operations that mix but don't match
> timescales.
>
> Different epochs will make it painfully obvious when people
> mix but don't match timescales in low quality implementations.
Now we
-5:00 US C%sT
Will your computer's time zone databases be up-to-date then?
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we need to plan for events that far in the future
- just some fun astronomy
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vely refreshing and open manner:
http://ietf.org/html.charters/ntp-charter.html
http://www.potaroo.net/ietf/idref/rfc1305/
Join us and get a standard TAI spec for NTP!
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g term effects due to the sun:
> While Earth's tilt varies from 23 to 25 degrees, the Red Planet's
> actually shifts from 15 to 40 degrees over a 100 million year
> period
I don't see a handy reference to pull all that together right now
Cheers,
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o a
> planetary ring.
But its too late to do that math tonight
-Neal
On Wed, Jan 11, 2006 at 11:41:27PM -0700, Neal McBurnett wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 11, 2006 at 11:44:13PM -0500, John Cowan wrote:
> > I wouldn't be too quick to dismiss tidal braking from Phobos. It's
> &g
On Wed, Jan 04, 2006 at 07:36:17AM +0100, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote:
> In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Neal McBurnett writes:
> >On Tue, Jan 03, 2006 at 08:32:08PM +0100, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote:
> >> If we can increase the tolerance to 10sec, IERS can give us the
> &
stems that
would be expensive to change."
[http://www.ien.it/luc/cesio/itu/annex_a.pdf]
So it is distressing to see committee members of the ITU headed in a
different direction.
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ts openly with the world by posting
them on the web and sending them to the leapsecs list or other open
forums. And I urge the ITU to open up their process.
http://rom.usno.navy.mil/archives/leapsecs.html
http://www.mail-archive.com/leapsecs@rom.usno.navy.mil/
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ow far
off a 1995 prediction would be in 2015, or what decadal fluctuations
have in store for us in the future.
http://hpiers.obspm.fr/eop-pc/earthor/utc/leapsecond.html
Anyone have a prediction algorithm in mind, and a result of running it
on the last several decades or centuries of data
.org/pipermail/ntpwg/2005-October/000165.html
I don't know if they ever sent in comments to ITU.
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one know more?
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Neal McBurnett http://bcn.boulder.co.us/~neal/
ncludes changes for US daylight savings in 2007.
The package that needs updating for Debian and Ubuntu is "libc6"
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suggested watching their leap-second-enabled java applet at
http://nist.time.gov/
> http://www.startribune.com/stories/404/5508732.html
>
> It might be fun to compile a comprehensive documentary here on how the
> leap second is implemented in practice today ...
Take notes and post your reports,
ideas on his page:
http://www.leapsecond.com/notes/leap-watch.htm
It should be fun.
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for how many people are no longer getting
the list.
I hope Demetrios and Tom come up with a good solution soon. I'd
recommend Mailman, myself. I think it is important that the list
archives are also ported. If necessary, I can also help finding a
host for the list.
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rguments of who disagrees with
the proposal.
Neal McBurnett http://bcn.boulder.co.us/~neal/
Excellent presentation, Marcus!
Excellent argument, Ed!
I hope the folks at Torino recognize the need for a much more open
process, broader participation and further discussion, and stick to
the careful, logical, approaches that Marcus and Ed recommend.
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It is indexed by Google.
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On Fri, Mar 28, 2003 at 01:42:50PM -0800, Steve Allen wrote:
> I have been reviewing the historical contents of LEAPSECS
the BIPM, which is part of the General Conference on
Weights and Measures, which also handles the International System of
Units (SI).
http://www.bipm.fr/enus/
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