Re: [LU] Fwd: Not coming home
Now we dont have a bid gumming up the works I hope that the press go to town on Fifa and the national associations I'm sure that will happen. If Blatter didn't like the press coverage he got from England before the vote he had better watch out because the gloves are off now! ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman-new.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org MARCHING ON TOGETHER
Re: [LU] Fwd: Not coming home
On 03/12/2010 09:53, Damian Walsh wrote: As an amateur footballer and football administrator I personally am fed up of the piss-poor service we have to pay for from the football authorities and that is never ever in our interests. Damian, tell me about it, you should see the merry dance the FA regularly lead the lads in the IFA when they are trying to book pitches, get referees etc.. and we ain't even affiliated. Tosswanks the lot of them Betty ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman-new.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org MARCHING ON TOGETHER
[LU] Non LU: Joke Du Jour
Let's spare a thought for Michael O'Leary, Chief Executive of Ryanair Arriving in a hotel in Dublin , he went to the bar and asked for a pint of Guinness The barman nodded and said that will be one Euro please, Mr. O'Leary Somewhat taken aback, O'Leary replied That's a very competitive price and handed over his money Will you be wanting a glass with your Guinness, sir? enquired the barman ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman-new.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org MARCHING ON TOGETHER
Re: [LU] C'mon England!
God I'm good!!! Russia will win. Putin hasn't turned up because he doesn't need to; smug. They've the money, the power, have never hosted it before and have probably got everyone in their back pockets. To be honest I think the reaction from here pretty much sums up why we were probably never in with a shout (TWO Votes??? and one of them was ours, despite being 'promised' many more apparently). Who the fcuk do we think we are? Sadly, The Empire is now dead. We are not living in 1890, we are no longer THE most important planet on the earth. The world DOES NOT revolve around us! The sooner we (as a collective) get that into our media lead, archaic mindsets, then maybe we can then address and come to terms with a whole host of other problems that our 'current world standing' has put us in and we need to deal with appropriately. ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman-new.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org MARCHING ON TOGETHER
Re: [LU] Qatar
I also believe it's illegal to be homosexual there. Not sure if any country has ever been less deserving of a World Cup? That said, the only reason I'm sad we didn't get it is we won't get a free upgrade at Elland Road. On 3 December 2010 13:35, Mark Tuffey wiscole...@hotmail.com wrote: What's the carbon foot print on have all air conditioned stadia? Also, are Israeli citizens allowed in Qatar? And if not, what if Israel qualifies? What about alcohol consumption and any public shows of affection? Are both permitted? Cheers Mark El Presidente Wisconsin Whites Leeds United Chicago Fire ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman-new.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org MARCHING ON TOGETHER ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman-new.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org MARCHING ON TOGETHER
Re: [LU] Qatar
Also, what about all the traditional Babes of the World Cup pictures...I mean what are the Brazilian ladies going to wear? Cheers Mark El Presidente Wisconsin Whites Leeds United Chicago Fire From: j...@jimmoran.co.uk I also believe it's illegal to be homosexual there. Not sure if any country has ever been less deserving of a World Cup? That said, the only reason I'm sad we didn't get it is we won't get a free upgrade at Elland Road. ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman-new.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org MARCHING ON TOGETHER
Re: [LU] Qatar
Good job Saudi Arabia didn't bid then. I'm fairly open minded on Qatar as a bidder. They will clearly make concessions on their fairly strict muslim beliefs of the Qataris (not that many of them). I know a few ex pats who live there and alcohol isn't a problem (getting/drinking). Nor is a normal way of life. Without getting too deep islam is a 1430 year old religion which is developing fast, and if you consider where Christianity was in the year 1430 then you can see both parallels in extremists and progress being made. I have no doubt the world cup there will be amazing and to be honest korea japan and usa all had it in the very recent past and australia is a non starter for timing reasons (for lucrative tv markets unless they play at night). Indeed Russia's bid was excellent and will be a good world cup. Moscow and st petersberg are amazing cities, sochi and kazan are quite nice places too. The whole legacy/regeneration thing won us the olympics so we can't dismiss it when it suits. The real problem is that 22 (allegedly)corrupt people headed by the most corrupt (allegedly)of all have the power. We naively believed because we had the best bid we deserved to win it. Things are much fairer in britain! Our media p1ssed them off and they have had a good laugh stitching us up. I only hope our media doesn't now lose interest and pursues them to the bitter end until Blatter and his legacy is in ruins and hopefully he ends his time in jail! Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device -Original Message- From: Jim Moran j...@jimmoran.co.uk Sender: leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org Date: Fri, 3 Dec 2010 13:54:48 To: Mark Tuffeywiscole...@hotmail.com Cc: leedslist@gn.apc.org Subject: Re: [LU] Qatar I also believe it's illegal to be homosexual there. Not sure if any country has ever been less deserving of a World Cup? That said, the only reason I'm sad we didn't get it is we won't get a free upgrade at Elland Road. On 3 December 2010 13:35, Mark Tuffey wiscole...@hotmail.com wrote: What's the carbon foot print on have all air conditioned stadia? Also, are Israeli citizens allowed in Qatar? And if not, what if Israel qualifies? What about alcohol consumption and any public shows of affection? Are both permitted? Cheers Mark El Presidente Wisconsin Whites Leeds United Chicago Fire ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman-new.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org MARCHING ON TOGETHER ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman-new.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org MARCHING ON TOGETHER ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman-new.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org MARCHING ON TOGETHER
[LU] Gruniad article
http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/blog/2010/dec/03/joy-of-six-football-trends #2 Sock Tags. Haven't read it all yet but the first paragraph is the nicest thing that the Gruniad has ever said about Leeds. Damian ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman-new.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org MARCHING ON TOGETHER
[LU] World Cup Decision comment
http://www.playthegame.org/news/detailed/globalising-football-protecting-fifas-top-leaders-5063.html FIFA's top has chosen hosts that match its own dubious business practices, but it may be too early for them to rejoice. Comment by Jens Sejer Andersen, International Director of Play the Game With the double choice of Russia and Qatar as hosts for the World Cups 2018 and 2022, FIFA has killed two birds with one stone. They have shown the world that they take the globalisation of football seriously by choosing two geographical regions that have never come close to organising a World Cup before. And they have chosen two countries in which FIFA ExCo members can continue their dubious management practices at a very low risk of being disturbed by questions from a critical press or obnoxious politicians. For FIFA's top 22, the choices today were in logical accordance with their aggressive denial of the well-documented allegations of massive bribery brought forward by BBC Panorama last Monday - a progamme that added to the ill reputation FIFA had already acquired after the Sunday Times revealed two FIFA exco members' readiness to sell their votes. When you compare the exclusion of the two light-weight FIFA politicians Adamu and Temarii - who were merely asking for money - with FIFA's refusal of acting against the four heavy-weight leaders Teixeira, Léoz, Hayatou and Warner - who in different ways actually took big sums of money - it becomes evident that FIFA's declared zero tolerance against corruption can be declared of zero value. Blatter's dilemma is clear: If he tries to topple the latter four most greedy FIFA leaders, who constitute his own political basis, he will fall by the same axe that he swings over their heads. Moreover, the choice of Russia with its fame for opaque corporate and public sectors may make some of the creative men at FIFA's top fantasize about new profitable business arrangements. In contrast, the youngest remaining ExCo member, Michel Platini (55), has called for the formation of an anti-corruption sports police because he realizes that football leaders cannot combat the organized crime that is digging its way into football. I could not help noticing his body language and facial expression on TV when the choice of Russia was about to be announced. He looked like a man who was weighed down by insurmountable future challenges. The choice of Qatar must have pleased Blatter in particular. Not only because it was moving to see the very emotional and surprised reaction of the Qatari delegation when the nation's name appeared from Blatter's envelope, as if these people who at home belongs to a spoiled and untouchable elite, in this football context experienced a genuine feeling of humble persons coming to glory. Blatter must also be extremely satisfied with being able to hand such a gift to the Qatari president of Asian football, his ExCo colleague Mohammad Bin Hammam, who once financed the FIFA President's electoral campaign and put his private jet at Blatter's disposal, but recently threatened to run against Blatter in next year's elections. Blatter's boat will not rock in the desert sand. Many things may point to a future in which FIFA's denial and corruption practices can continue unchanged. But it is too early for FIFA leaders to breathe a sigh of relief. The decision by FIFA to combine two World Cup bid procedures has been lamented by FIFA itself for other reasons, but it does open up a quite new and interesting political situation: We are now entering a very long time span until the next World Cup decision is to be taken, a time span in which sceptical government leaders and national federations do not need to constantly flatter the FIFA top and preserve it from criticism. Losing countries like the USA, Australia, UK, Holland, Belgium and perhaps also Spain and Portugal may not go out immediately with furious comments about a bid procedure that has proved unworthy and untrustworthy. But soon leading politicians now face the impossible task of explaining to their taxpayers and voters why they have thrown tens of millions of dollars and euros away in a game that was anything but professional, open and fair. Likewise, in all countries that render strong public subsidies to sport, a growing number politicians may demand football to get its own house in order. Noteworthy is the growing concern shown by politicians in Switzerland who are not delighted to realize that the exemptions that sports organisations enjoy in the anti-corruption legislation, are in fact exploited for all the wrong reasons. Tightened anti-corruption laws in the home country of 50 sports would constitute a major step ahead, although a few organisations might then seek asylum elsewhere. While Russia and Qatar have the right to celebrate for some time, a much larger number of countries will enter into a mood of sombre reflection, fully aware
Re: [LU] Fwd: Not coming home
The Bid team made one serious error - instead of Prince William, they should have had Prince Phillip - at least we'd have had some home truths about the process, rather than all the fanny being espoused! Facts are 2 very rich countries have bought the world cups, and this has been rubberstamped by a group of old greedy men who believe themselves to be above any law or morals which normal humans at least accept. If rumours are to be believed, and in the light of little cold hard fact maybe it's as close as we'll get, then given that only 3 of the 22 FIFA reps requested the Ingerland Technical Bid document that probably gives you a clue as to how it was likely to go. I didn't actually want Ingerland to win - imagine the fing hysteria about how finally we'd win it again on home soil blah blah blah, but how Russia beat Spain can only really be answered in one way - Bl*tters Pension Plan! --- On Fri, 3/12/10, Richard Naef rich...@triumph-computers.co.uk wrote: From: Richard Naef rich...@triumph-computers.co.uk Matt argued; We had the very best bid in everything apart from legacy. The FA did well for once. The tories and the royals stepped up and did something useful. Just the f@@@ing bbc and press had to f@@@ it up. ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman-new.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org MARCHING ON TOGETHER
Re: [LU] Fwd: Not coming home
Or, because Spain hosted it as recently as 1982? On 3 Dec 2010, at 18:06, John Lee I didn't actually want Ingerland to win - imagine the fing hysteria about how finally we'd win it again on home soil blah blah blah, but how Russia beat Spain can only really be answered in one way - Bl*tters Pension Plan! --- On Fri, 3/12/10, Richard Naef rich...@triumph-computers.co.uk wrote: From: Richard Naef rich...@triumph-computers.co.uk Matt argued; We had the very best bid in everything apart from legacy. The FA did well for once. The tories and the royals stepped up and did something useful. Just the f@@@ing bbc and press had to f@@@ it up. ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman-new.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org MARCHING ON TOGETHER ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman-new.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org MARCHING ON TOGETHER
Re: [LU] Too right shaun!!!
Better than John Motson. I'd rather have a Rich commentary than John Moston -Original Message- From: leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of Jim Moran Sent: 03 December 2010 18:35 To: m...@leeds-united.net Cc: LEEDSLIST Subject: Re: [LU] Too right shaun!!! Games on ITV though? That means having to sit through that idiot Adrian Chiles. On 3 Dec 2010, at 18:29, m...@leeds-united.net m...@leeds-united.net wrote: ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman-new.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org MARCHING ON TOGETHER
Re: [LU] Too right shaun!!!
Especially if Beechio leads the Argie line.. Cheers Mark El Presidente Wisconsin Whites Leeds United Chicago Fire From: mark.humphr...@blueyonder.co.uk Better than John Motson. rather have a Rich commentary than John Moston ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman-new.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org MARCHING ON TOGETHER
Re: [LU] Too right shaun!!!
Funny though - the website hasn't published Mr Harvey's demands that The Sunday Times (who ran a FIFA corruption exposé) and The Daily Mail (who printed a private conversation of the former bid leader) have their accreditation denied for Crown Jewel football matches. He surely *must* have said something along those lines; otherwise wouldn't this just be opportunistic anti-BBC posturing? (It can't be that he's scared of offending either Associated or NI, he has far too much integrity and moral courage for that to ne the case.) Ed On 3 Dec 2010 18:29, m...@leeds-united.net m...@leeds-united.net wrote: http://www.leedsunited.com/news/20101203/bbc-stand-accused-after-world-cup-defeat_2247585_2236067 Sent from my iPhone ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman-new.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org MARCHING ON TOGETHER ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman-new.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org MARCHING ON TOGETHER
Re: [LU] Too right shaun!!!
As opposed to lawro and shearer??? --Original Message-- From: Jim Moran To: m...@leeds-united.net Cc: LEEDSLIST Subject: Re: [LU] Too right shaun!!! Sent: 3 Dec 2010 18:35 Games on ITV though? That means having to sit through that idiot Adrian Chiles. On 3 Dec 2010, at 18:29, m...@leeds-united.net m...@leeds-united.net wrote: http://www.leedsunited.com/news/20101203/bbc-stand-accused-after-world-cup-defeat_2247585_2236067 Sent from my iPhone ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman-new.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org MARCHING ON TOGETHER Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman-new.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org MARCHING ON TOGETHER
[LU] Fwd: Too right shaun!!!
The only way we'd have got this World Cup would have been by giving millions to our favourite FIFA judges. Their whole system is corrupt, and their particular status in Switzerland means they're not accountable. For me, the best punishment all those countries with good technical bids could give FIFA is by pulling out of these two world cups. Lose the big name countries that people want to see and it all falls apart. There's room for a different, more transparent organisation. Remember, the only people who really make money from the WC are FIFA, who sell the rights for many, many millions... I totally agree with him Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman-new.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org MARCHING ON TOGETHER
Re: [LU] Fwd: Too right shaun!!!
Just do to FIFA what the Premiership did to the Football League. Set up a World Football Championship outside the auspices of FIFA. Big nations withdraw from the World cup and offer better terms to smaller nations to compete. See which tournament survives. M ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman-new.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org MARCHING ON TOGETHER
[LU] Home Office stats on banning orders, etc
http://www.homeoffice.gov.uk/publications/crime/football-arrests-banning-orders/fbo-2009-10?view=Binary or http://tinyurl.com/32muyct ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman-new.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org MARCHING ON TOGETHER
Re: [LU] Home Office stats on banning orders, etc
Way hay, we are the champions, champions of errr... On 3 Dec 2010, at 20:44, Ralph wrote: http://www.homeoffice.gov.uk/publications/crime/football-arrests-banning-orders/fbo-2009-10?view=Binary or http://tinyurl.com/32muyct ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman-new.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org MARCHING ON TOGETHER
[LU] Non LU - More on World Cup
I hope I don't sound as though I am bragging about my careerI simply mention this for one good reason - I know how media works, be it here in Canada on elsewhere. I was in radio news as a writer/broadcaster before I thankfully, moved into the sports side. I had the displeasure of breaking the thalidomide tragedy in, I believe, 1963. I was deep into news reaearch in other areas, including government mis-management etc. Question - Can any of you confirm that the BBC News team is left-leaning... meaning, virtually supporting another to do with Labour. Reason I ask this is because in Canada, the CBC, like BBC, is publicly ownednot a private enterprise. The CBC is left-leaning to the extremeanything it can do to embarrass the Tory government, or non-Labour legislatures in the provinces, it will also. I found it despicable that the BBC would release any story like it did prior to the World Cup announcements. That certainly sank any hope there was for England to get 2018. Yes, I realize many of you couldn't care less about the national team or anything to do with the World Cup...or anything to do with that corrupt organization called FIFA. Hells bells, you've got the Summer Olympics in 2012same hate surely goes toward the IOC. If no one else, ITV, SKY or whatever was going to air with the story of corruption, then why did BBC have to do it when they did. Just as I mentioned a few days ago, I'm one person who can love more than one sport...similarly, I happen to love more than one football team. Leeds United AND England..and even Scotland, Wales, Northern Ireland... and Ireland. John Sykes ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman-new.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org MARCHING ON TOGETHER
Re: [LU] Non LU - More on World Cup
Left leaning? don't make me laugh. Are you suggesting that England not getting the WC was some sort of socialist plot hatched in a Trotskyist underground cell and gleefully executed by the BBC fellow travellers(*)? They may be publicly funded (another scam involving tax payers funding the elite) but they are commercially and professionally astute and they showed their programme at truely the maximum impact time - not a whiff of sour grapes as been before the fact either. Weren't you in the business? Damian (*) Stalin - Beria, how are our plans to capture the WC coming along Beria - Our infiltration of Harrow and Cambridge means we have the BBC stitched up for generations to come. We will strike when the time is right. Stalin - Ho ho ho, Beria - Ha ha ha On Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 10:23 PM, John Sykes jsy...@shaw.ca wrote: Question - Can any of you confirm that the BBC News team is left-leaning... meaning, virtually supporting another to do with Labour. Reason I ask this is because in Canada, the CBC, like BBC, is publicly owned ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman-new.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org MARCHING ON TOGETHER
Re: [LU] Non LU - More on World Cup
On 03/12/2010 21:23, John Sykes wrote: If no one else, ITV, SKY or whatever was going to air with the story of corruption, then why did BBC have to do it when they did. http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/theeditors/2010/11/fifa_football_panorama.html In terms of its timing, we only obtained the list of these payments last month after a secret out-of-court settlement was reached in June 2010 year. That followed an investigation into the ISL bribes by a Swiss magistrate and concluded with unnamed Fifa officials paying back £3.5 million. It has taken many weeks to ensure that the allegations we are making were properly tested and that all those named were given a fair opportunity to respond. There have also been calls for us to put the programme out after the vote on the bid. I understand why people feel strongly about us not tipping the chances against England's 2018 bid. But surely it's right for the British public to be informed about the nature of Fifa and its demands before we win - if we do? ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman-new.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org MARCHING ON TOGETHER
[LU] FA acting chair quits after World Cup decision
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/9256772.stm ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman-new.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org MARCHING ON TOGETHER
Re: [LU] FA acting chair quits after World Cup decision
An acting chair? That sounds pretty wooden g (staying in - far to cold to get m'coat) ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman-new.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org MARCHING ON TOGETHER
[LU] LU: Chairman Bates
http://www.leedsunited.com/news/20101203/united-chairman-calls-for-fifa-break-away_2247585_2236291 A different view to Mr Harvey... Ed. ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman-new.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org MARCHING ON TOGETHER
Re: [LU] World Cup
It was. It now isn't. Once you had no idea what the interviewers personal opinion was, but you did know what the person being interviewed opinions were. Now it is the complete opposite. They hector and bully the people they interview and you are only used on a programme if you 'contribute' to the guiding directors opinion. If not you are edited out. They are out to make points. But it's their points. Part of the 'group think'. Single handed the BBC has cheapened journalism. There is no longer freedom of expression. There is a monopoly on opinions. And the BBC was in the vanguard. To add insult to injury they vilify those who don't share their opinion and glorify their own and their actions. As an ex pat I am deeply ashamed of this transformation from something that was something to be proud of. Michael Sent from my iPad Dr. Michael Benjamin Community Psychiatrist On Dec 3, 2010, at 11:42 PM, Ian Murray ianjamesmur...@hotmail.com wrote: That's why it's the most trusted news organisation in the world. I'm not saying they're perfect but they do strive for fair and balanced reporting, including when they're pitching themselves against their own government. Why should they not show it? Give me a reason. Anyway, just watching the highlights of the cricket - love how haddin and ponting have got their knickers in a twist. They don't like it up em mum! I Sent from my iPhone On 3 Dec 2010, at 21:24, Dr. Michael Benjamin. beden...@gmail.com wrote: BBC and free press? You have to be joking. They are an agenda ridden bunch of hypocrites. They fit the news to their agenda. Before you all get your knickers in a twist I am quoting a BBC reporter that interviewed me. The UK was sold out. If the angle had shown PC causes in a wrong light it would have been buried. Trust me. Michael Sent from my iPhone Dr Michael Benjamin Community Psychiatry On 3 Dec 2010, at 22:53, Ian Murray ianjamesmur...@hotmail.com wrote: I'm with Sean. We have a free press. What the anti BBC people are saying is we should 'get on board' with corruption and just tow the line. That's not what our democracy is about. If we lost the world cup because we refused to submit to a corrupt cabal then so be it. As mark says, let's form our own world championship and see which one people want to see. Giving it to Russia over us is an injustice. Giving it to fcking Qatar over, say, America or Australia, is a joke. Anyway, who cares? Leeds is all that *really* matters. I Sent from my iPhone On 3 Dec 2010, at 20:02, leedslist-requ...@gn.apc.org wrote: Why is he embarrassing the club? He is absolutely right - there was no reason whatsoever the BBC had to broadcast that episode of Panarama next week. It would have made no difference to their free press rights, they are OUR corporation and in this instance should have been responsible, and not just try and create a fuss 2 days before the vote. Fucking stupid. ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman-new.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org MARCHING ON TOGETHER ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman-new.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org MARCHING ON TOGETHER
