Re: [LU] Cup money

2011-02-23 Thread Richard Walker
So the question is what happened to Leeds 's money?

Grayson said that a signing is imminent - who knows ?

Some Barnsley thoughts when I get time today but don't get to thinking the 
goals last night were the back fours fault !

Sent from my iPhone

On 23 Feb 2011, at 01:14, Rick Duniec ri...@ntlworld.com wrote:

 Sorry to interrupt the beer nostalgia but I thought that this might help the 
 original questions -
 The  Guardian says -
 Now Digger can reveal just how valuable the Frenchman's equaliser is expected 
 to be for Leyton Orient. Arsenal turn over £3m for every home game and under 
 the terms of the FA Cup revenue-sharing agreement Orient will be due 42.5% of 
 the net gate receipts that the Emirates Stadium replay generates.
 Although the Gunners have yet to announce ticket prices for the 2 March 
 match, the profit is expected to be in the region of £1.6m, raising £700,000 
 for the League One club. If the match is televised, it will make close to £1m 
 for Barry Hearn's club - not bad for one game, considering Orient's total 
 turnover of £3.3m in the 2008-9 season.
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Re: [LU] Cup money

2011-02-23 Thread Robert Heath
 
  Some Barnsley thoughts when I get time today but don't get to thinking the 
goals last night were the back fours fault !
  
  Let me guess.Becchio  Johnson were to blame?


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Re: [LU] Cup money

2011-02-23 Thread barbaraville

Ken Bates Saviour of Leeds United, remember where you heard it first !

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Re: [LU] Cup money

2011-02-23 Thread David Brennan
 Message: 2
 Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 01:14:19 -
 From: Rick Duniec ri...@ntlworld.com
 To: Leedslist@gn.apc.org
 Subject: [LU]  Cup money
 
 Sorry to interrupt the beer nostalgia but I thought that this might help the 
 original
 questions -
 The  Guardian says -
 Now Digger can reveal just how valuable the Frenchman's equaliser is expected 
 to
 be for Leyton Orient. Arsenal turn over ?3m for every home game and under the
 terms of the FA Cup revenue-sharing agreement Orient will be due 42.5% of the 
 net
 gate receipts that the Emirates Stadium replay generates.
 Although the Gunners have yet to announce ticket prices for the 2 March match,
 the profit is expected to be in the region of ?1.6m, raising ?700,000 for the 
 League
 One club. If the match is televised, it will make close to ?1m for Barry 
 Hearn's club
 - not bad for one game, considering Orient's total turnover of ?3.3m in the 
 2008-9
 season.

So if the share of the gate receipts is 42.5%, and not 25% as I thought, than 
that means that having played at Old Trafford, Emirates, and WHL over the last 
two seasons that would be over GBP2 million from those three games alone - not 
including the bonus home ties, or the telly appearance money (which used to be 
about GBP250k per FA Cup game).  Which does make you wonder where all that 
money has gone?

Thanks to those for the stats on mid week vs weekend games (depressing as they 
are). Anyone want to do an analysis of local derbies over the last season or 
two to see if we don't usually perform in those games either?

Btw, the Rising Sun is now a second hand furniture shop.

DRB 
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Re: [LU] Cup money

2011-02-23 Thread Damian Walsh
What gets me is the 1,6M GBP -profit- from a match with 3M GBP gate
receipts (I paraphrase). How come it costs 1.4M GBP to stage a football
match?

Damian

On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 10:50 AM, David Brennan d.r.bren...@leeds.ac.ukwrote:


 So if the share of the gate receipts is 42.5%, and not 25% as I thought,
 than that means that having played at Old Trafford, Emirates, and WHL over
 the last two seasons that would be over GBP2 million from those three games
 alone - not including the bonus home ties, or the telly appearance money
 (which used to be about GBP250k per FA Cup game).  Which does make you
 wonder where all that money has gone?


 DRB
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[LU] Cup money

2011-02-22 Thread David Brennan
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 Message: 4
 Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 11:07:24 -0500
 From: seanscr...@aol.com
 To: richleed...@yahoo.co.uk, leedslist@gn.apc.org
 Subject: Re: [LU] Leedslist Digest, Vol 8, Issue 37
 
 I've asked before but never gotten a good answer on exactly how cup revenues
 work (i.e., for instance when we play Arsenal or ManU at Highbury/Old 
 Trafford,
 how are the gate and TV revenues divided).

I'm fairly sure that it used to be the away team in an FA Cup tie could ask for 
up to 25% of the seats, and got 25% of the ticket money.  Which is why all 
smaller clubs want a tie with one of the 'big' teams.  Crawley for instance 
getting 25% of Old Trafford ticket money on the weekend would be like winning 
the lottery for them.

So we should have got 25% of Old Trafford too last year, and White Hart Lane, 
and Emirates this year. That would add up to quite a bit of dosh.

Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.

DRB
(agreeing Leeds Pale is an excellent pint, and the demise of the Adelphi is a 
crying shame)
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Re: [LU] Cup money

2011-02-22 Thread Damian Walsh
I was always under the impression that gate money was 40% - 40% with 20%
going to the FA. But aren't TV rights individually negociated nowadays?

Damian

PS I remember that Highbury used to be famous for its ghost turnstiles
(you would have sworn they were there but they never showed up in attendance
figures or tax returns). I suppose all that is a thing of the past now.

On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 10:32 AM, David Brennan d.r.bren...@leeds.ac.ukwrote:


  I've asked before but never gotten a good answer on exactly how cup
 revenues
  work (i.e., for instance when we play Arsenal or ManU at Highbury/Old
 Trafford,
  how are the gate and TV revenues divided).

 I'm fairly sure that it used to be the away team in an FA Cup tie could ask
 for up to 25% of the seats, and got 25% of the ticket money.  Which is why
 all smaller clubs want a tie with one of the 'big' teams.  Crawley for
 instance getting 25% of Old Trafford ticket money on the weekend would be
 like winning the lottery for them.

 DRB

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Re: [LU] Cup money

2011-02-22 Thread barbaraville

On 22/02/2011 09:57, Ted wrote:

There's only really one drinking man's pub in Leeds now - The Templar!


Ted,

I think you'll find that Roger and I agree with you on that one

Betty
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Re: [LU] Cup money

2011-02-22 Thread Tim Leslie
Rubbish.
Have you not been in The Chemic Tavern recently, or The Gaping Goose in
Garforth? Must try harder!


 On 22/02/2011 09:57, Ted wrote:
 There's only really one drinking man's pub in Leeds now - The Templar!

 Ted,

 I think you'll find that Roger and I agree with you on that one

 Betty


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Re: [LU] Cup money

2011-02-22 Thread Ted
Tim wrote:

 Rubbish.
 Have you not been in The Chemic Tavern recently, or The Gaping Goose in
 Garforth? Must try harder!


Neither are hardly in Leeds are they?  Can't see me walking to them after
the match when we're in town.

Ted H
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Re: [LU] Cup money

2011-02-22 Thread Tim Leslie
Hmmm, I'll let you off on The Goose, but The Chemic is only on Woodhouse
Moor!

If it's City Centre 'proper pubs' we are talking then I give you The Grove
and The Wrens. Not been in The Horse and Trumpet or The Ship for quite a
while, so couldn't comment. The Duck and Drake? Whitelocks? The Vic? Dr
Foley's (Although that can smell of sick sometimes!).


 Tim wrote:

 Rubbish.
 Have you not been in The Chemic Tavern recently, or The Gaping Goose in
 Garforth? Must try harder!


 Neither are hardly in Leeds are they?  Can't see me walking to them after
 the match when we're in town.

 Ted H



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Re: [LU] Cup money

2011-02-22 Thread Richard Walker
The Goose was always a favourite of mine but has gone down hill over recent 
years. 


I was talking Leeds city centre though so it doesn't count. 

The Adelphi doesn't sell Tetleys, the Vic doesn't the George doesn't  
worlds 
gone mad. 




- Original Message 
From: Tim Leslie t...@3leafieldvillas.co.uk
To: leedslist@gn.apc.org
Sent: Tue, 22 February, 2011 11:08:58
Subject: Re: [LU] Cup money

Rubbish.
Have you not been in The Chemic Tavern recently, or The Gaping Goose in
Garforth? Must try harder!


 On 22/02/2011 09:57, Ted wrote:
 There's only really one drinking man's pub in Leeds now - The Templar!

 Ted,

 I think you'll find that Roger and I agree with you on that one

 Betty


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Re: [LU] Cup money

2011-02-22 Thread David Brennan
 Message: 8
 Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 11:15:53 +
 From: Ted tedhea...@gmail.com
 To: Tim Leslie t...@3leafieldvillas.co.uk
 Cc: leedslist@gn.apc.org
 Subject: Re: [LU] Cup money
 
 Tim wrote:
 
  Rubbish.
  Have you not been in The Chemic Tavern recently, or The Gaping Goose in
  Garforth? Must try harder!
 
 Neither are hardly in Leeds are they?  Can't see me walking to them after
 the match when we're in town.

Does the Grove not count as a drinking pub?  Top quality beer, definitely 
walking distance from both town and Elland Road, so city centre-ish.  It's my 
preferred hole of drinking since the Adelphi went pear shaped.

But I've never been in the Templar so I could be swayed.

Was speaking to a Barnsley supporting mate of mine on Saturday and he was not 
confident they would get anything from tonight's game.  But it does feel like 
we often underperform in local derbies.

DRB
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Re: [LU] Cup money

2011-02-22 Thread Tim Leslie
Well if I remember rightly, Adam Hammill tore us apart at their place.
He's now at Wolves and his departure has coincided with their form
dipping.
They sold Tetleys in The Vic last year?!?!

 Message: 8
 Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 11:15:53 +
 From: Ted tedhea...@gmail.com
 To: Tim Leslie t...@3leafieldvillas.co.uk
 Cc: leedslist@gn.apc.org
 Subject: Re: [LU] Cup money

 Tim wrote:

  Rubbish.
  Have you not been in The Chemic Tavern recently, or The Gaping Goose
 in
  Garforth? Must try harder!
 
 Neither are hardly in Leeds are they?  Can't see me walking to them
 after
 the match when we're in town.

 Does the Grove not count as a drinking pub?  Top quality beer, definitely
 walking distance from both town and Elland Road, so city centre-ish.  It's
 my preferred hole of drinking since the Adelphi went pear shaped.

 But I've never been in the Templar so I could be swayed.

 Was speaking to a Barnsley supporting mate of mine on Saturday and he was
 not confident they would get anything from tonight's game.  But it does
 feel like we often underperform in local derbies.

 DRB
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Re: [LU] Cup money

2011-02-22 Thread Andrew Brown

Is The Palace any good nowadays?  They used to sell Roosters (from 
Knaresborough) in there.
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Re: [LU] Cup money

2011-02-22 Thread Ted
I'll give you the Grove!
Horse and Trumpet maybe, I don't like The Ship since they got rid of
the authentic ship memorabilia, to be replaced by fake-old-fashioned
memorabilia!
Duck and Drake don't do Tetley's
The Palace is one of the few pubs that, in my opinion, has improved since
they did it up, and it does do Tetleys.

I also agree that Leeds Pale is a nice pint - The Brewery Tap near the
station serves a good pint.

Ted H

On 22 February 2011 11:27, Tim Leslie t...@3leafieldvillas.co.uk wrote:

 Hmmm, I'll let you off on The Goose, but The Chemic is only on Woodhouse
 Moor!

 If it's City Centre 'proper pubs' we are talking then I give you The Grove
 and The Wrens. Not been in The Horse and Trumpet or The Ship for quite a
 while, so couldn't comment. The Duck and Drake? Whitelocks? The Vic? Dr
 Foley's (Although that can smell of sick sometimes!).


  Tim wrote:
 
  Rubbish.
  Have you not been in The Chemic Tavern recently, or The Gaping Goose in
  Garforth? Must try harder!
 
 
  Neither are hardly in Leeds are they?  Can't see me walking to them after
  the match when we're in town.
 
  Ted H
 



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Re: [LU] Cup money

2011-02-22 Thread Jim Moran
It's OK.

You can get Roosters all over. North Bar usually have it on tap in town.

Midnight Bell and Cross Keys both sell good ales, but not what you'd call
traditional pubs these days.

On 22 February 2011 12:25, Andrew Brown h...@btinternet.com wrote:


 Is The Palace any good nowadays?  They used to sell Roosters (from
 Knaresborough) in there.
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Re: [LU] Cup money

2011-02-22 Thread Richard Walker
It's sporadic - last 3 times I've been in there it's been off. 



- Original Message 
From: Tim Leslie t...@3leafieldvillas.co.uk
To: leedslist@gn.apc.org leedslist@gn.apc.org
Sent: Tue, 22 February, 2011 12:19:35
Subject: Re: [LU] Cup money

Well if I remember rightly, Adam Hammill tore us apart at their place.
He's now at Wolves and his departure has coincided with their form
dipping.
They sold Tetleys in The Vic last year?!?!

 Message: 8
 Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 11:15:53 +
 From: Ted tedhea...@gmail.com
 To: Tim Leslie t...@3leafieldvillas.co.uk
 Cc: leedslist@gn.apc.org
 Subject: Re: [LU] Cup money

 Tim wrote:

  Rubbish.
  Have you not been in The Chemic Tavern recently, or The Gaping Goose
 in
  Garforth? Must try harder!
 
 Neither are hardly in Leeds are they?  Can't see me walking to them
 after
 the match when we're in town.

 Does the Grove not count as a drinking pub?  Top quality beer, definitely
 walking distance from both town and Elland Road, so city centre-ish.  It's
 my preferred hole of drinking since the Adelphi went pear shaped.

 But I've never been in the Templar so I could be swayed.

 Was speaking to a Barnsley supporting mate of mine on Saturday and he was
 not confident they would get anything from tonight's game.  But it does
 feel like we often underperform in local derbies.

 DRB
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Re: [LU] Cup money

2011-02-22 Thread barbaraville

On 22/02/2011 11:08, Tim Leslie wrote:

The Gaping Goose in
Garforth?


Since when has chuffin' Garforth been in Leeds? - its a small town near 
Castleford!

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Re: [LU] Cup money

2011-02-22 Thread Michael ALCOCK
Seeing as the discussion has turned to ale - London based listers
might be interested about the Bricklayer's Arms Yorkshire Beer
Festival beginning tomorrow.

http://www.bricklayers-arms.co.uk/

Cheers

Mike
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[LU] Cup money

2011-02-22 Thread Rick Duniec
Sorry to interrupt the beer nostalgia but I thought that this might help the 
original questions -
The  Guardian says -
Now Digger can reveal just how valuable the Frenchman's equaliser is expected 
to be for Leyton Orient. Arsenal turn over £3m for every home game and under 
the terms of the FA Cup revenue-sharing agreement Orient will be due 42.5% of 
the net gate receipts that the Emirates Stadium replay generates.
Although the Gunners have yet to announce ticket prices for the 2 March match, 
the profit is expected to be in the region of £1.6m, raising £700,000 for the 
League One club. If the match is televised, it will make close to £1m for Barry 
Hearn's club - not bad for one game, considering Orient's total turnover of 
£3.3m in the 2008-9 season.
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