Re: [LU] Delusional or Footballs coming back

2020-06-09 Thread Nicholas Armit via Leedslist
 Or if there are we are promoted!
On Tuesday, June 9, 2020, 10:04:34 AM EDT, Richard Naef 
 wrote:  
 
 EFL clubs ok'd all proposals.  Unless there is a large nr of positive tests, 
it's away we go!

Sent from my Mobile.


From: Guy Thornton 
Sent: Tuesday, June 9, 2020 12:01:10 PM
To: Richard Naef 
Subject: Re: [LU] Delusional or Footballs coming back

Ah, the proverbial glass half-full or half-empty question mixed with archetypal 
whinging yorkies.
Well I'm siding with Da Rev and Naffy. Always look on the bright side 
Anyway makes no difference what we think, say or whinge. It looks like Football 
really is returning. The EFL are meeting today - originally should have been 
yesterday but it was put back - to (hopefully/probably) finalize the proposals, 
which for anyone who hasn't seen them are:

The season is set to restart 20 June with games 20/21 and 27/28 June
No midweek games first week
Final regular games 21/22 July with play-off final Sunday 2 or Monday 3 August
Fixture schedule will be over six time slots Friday to Sunday: 18.00 & 20.00 
Friday, 12.30,15.00, 17.30 Saturday and 12.00 Sundays plus three time slots 
Tuesdays and Wednesdays midweek: 17.00, 18.00 & 20.00
None of the 108 games will be shown free-to-air but 30 games will be shown on 
Sky Sports
All games will be shown on iFollow with season ticket holders able to watch 
their teams games free while those without a season ticket games will cost £10.

The provisional fixture list for us is:

Sun Jun 21 Cardiff City A (12:00pm live on Sky Sports)

Sat Jun 27 Fulham H (3:00pm live on Sky Sports)

Tue Jun 30 Luton Town H (7:45pm)

Sat Jul 4 Blackburn Rovers A (3:00pm)*

Tue Jul 7 Stoke City H (7:45pm)*

Sat Jul 11 Swansea City A (3:00pm)*

Tue Jul 14 Barnsley H (7:45pm)*

Sat Jul 18 Derby County A (3:00pm)*

Wed Jul 22 Charlton Athletic H (TBC)*

* = may change subject to broadcast selections

Now sit back, wait for the EFL decisions and enjoy(?)
guy


On 9 Jun 2020 at 9:54, Richard Naef wrote:

Without getting all Zen, neither pessimism or optimism will affect the outcome, 
so looking forward positively with nervous excitement is possibly better for 
you health than expecting the worse. Sure if it does go tits up, you might 
protect yourself from the low, but really, every thing points to us being the 
best team and best prepared. Of course in the end, nothing really matters and 
we are just brief flashes of  deterministic automata running on the rails of a 
cold uncaring universe.

Sent from my Mobile.


From: Leedslist  on behalf of David Smail 

Sent: Monday, June 8, 2020 9:57:47 PM
To: bruvvalee...@yahoo.co.uk 
Cc: leedslist@gn.apc.org 
Subject: Re: [LU] Delusional

With all this unconditional optimism and potentially misplaced good faith,
as in all things, there needs to be a measure of balance without necessarily
being pessimistic
We all want the same conclusion, but some express it differently.
Dave

-Original Message-
From: bruvvalee...@yahoo.co.uk [mailto:bruvvalee...@yahoo.co.uk]
Sent: 08 June 2020 19:17
To: David Smail
Cc: heathpalai...@gmail.com; leedslist@gn.apc.org
Subject: Re: [LU] Delusional

Will the miserable bastards amongst this list please wait until we have
actually lost?

I thank you!

Sent from my iPad

> On 8 Jun 2020, at 04:51, David Smail  wrote:
>
> Great minds think alike - I have raised this with a small group of
> supporters at work.
>
> I too would have happily taken promotion as a result of season early
> termination based on the fact that we've done enough already.
>
> All this talk of purity and finishing the season could be disaster for us
as
> you say if we fold again under the pressure. It's the equivalent of
starting
> a new season. One thing we have in our favour is that we do tend to make
> good starts in the early weeks of new campaigns, so I hope this continues.

>
> All teams will be pumped up after the enforced break, however,  we don't
> generally get on well in Wales.
>
> Sadly we don't have a points cushion to help us ease back in and there is
no
> guarantee that we will continue our winning streak especially with no ER
> home support  I'm sure MB has all this in hand, We are well versed with
> disappointments over the years - perhaps we can shake these off and see it
> through.
>
>
>
> Dave
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>
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> As a paid up member of the Grumpy Old Men Society, it is not surprising
>
> that I mutter "the world's gone mad" about three times a day.but
>
> having said that, I really do think that the amount of delusional thinking
>
> in all walks of life nowadays has reached, well dare-I-say-it pandemic
>
> proportions.
>
>
>
> A

Re: [LU] Delusional or Footballs coming back

2020-06-09 Thread Richard Naef
EFL clubs ok'd all proposals.  Unless there is a large nr of positive tests, 
it's away we go!

Sent from my Mobile.


From: Guy Thornton 
Sent: Tuesday, June 9, 2020 12:01:10 PM
To: Richard Naef 
Subject: Re: [LU] Delusional or Footballs coming back

Ah, the proverbial glass half-full or half-empty question mixed with archetypal 
whinging yorkies.
Well I'm siding with Da Rev and Naffy. Always look on the bright side 
Anyway makes no difference what we think, say or whinge. It looks like Football 
really is returning. The EFL are meeting today - originally should have been 
yesterday but it was put back - to (hopefully/probably) finalize the proposals, 
which for anyone who hasn't seen them are:

The season is set to restart 20 June with games 20/21 and 27/28 June
No midweek games first week
Final regular games 21/22 July with play-off final Sunday 2 or Monday 3 August
Fixture schedule will be over six time slots Friday to Sunday: 18.00 & 20.00 
Friday, 12.30,15.00, 17.30 Saturday and 12.00 Sundays plus three time slots 
Tuesdays and Wednesdays midweek: 17.00, 18.00 & 20.00
None of the 108 games will be shown free-to-air but 30 games will be shown on 
Sky Sports
All games will be shown on iFollow with season ticket holders able to watch 
their teams games free while those without a season ticket games will cost £10.

The provisional fixture list for us is:

Sun Jun 21 Cardiff City A (12:00pm live on Sky Sports)

Sat Jun 27 Fulham H (3:00pm live on Sky Sports)

Tue Jun 30 Luton Town H (7:45pm)

Sat Jul 4 Blackburn Rovers A (3:00pm)*

Tue Jul 7 Stoke City H (7:45pm)*

Sat Jul 11 Swansea City A (3:00pm)*

Tue Jul 14 Barnsley H (7:45pm)*

Sat Jul 18 Derby County A (3:00pm)*

Wed Jul 22 Charlton Athletic H (TBC)*

* = may change subject to broadcast selections

Now sit back, wait for the EFL decisions and enjoy(?)
guy


On 9 Jun 2020 at 9:54, Richard Naef wrote:

Without getting all Zen, neither pessimism or optimism will affect the outcome, 
so looking forward positively with nervous excitement is possibly better for 
you health than expecting the worse. Sure if it does go tits up, you might 
protect yourself from the low, but really, every thing points to us being the 
best team and best prepared. Of course in the end, nothing really matters and 
we are just brief flashes of  deterministic automata running on the rails of a 
cold uncaring universe.

Sent from my Mobile.


From: Leedslist  on behalf of David Smail 

Sent: Monday, June 8, 2020 9:57:47 PM
To: bruvvalee...@yahoo.co.uk 
Cc: leedslist@gn.apc.org 
Subject: Re: [LU] Delusional

With all this unconditional optimism and potentially misplaced good faith,
as in all things, there needs to be a measure of balance without necessarily
being pessimistic
We all want the same conclusion, but some express it differently.
Dave

-Original Message-
From: bruvvalee...@yahoo.co.uk [mailto:bruvvalee...@yahoo.co.uk]
Sent: 08 June 2020 19:17
To: David Smail
Cc: heathpalai...@gmail.com; leedslist@gn.apc.org
Subject: Re: [LU] Delusional

Will the miserable bastards amongst this list please wait until we have
actually lost?

I thank you!

Sent from my iPad

> On 8 Jun 2020, at 04:51, David Smail  wrote:
>
> Great minds think alike - I have raised this with a small group of
> supporters at work.
>
> I too would have happily taken promotion as a result of season early
> termination based on the fact that we've done enough already.
>
> All this talk of purity and finishing the season could be disaster for us
as
> you say if we fold again under the pressure. It's the equivalent of
starting
> a new season. One thing we have in our favour is that we do tend to make
> good starts in the early weeks of new campaigns, so I hope this continues.

>
> All teams will be pumped up after the enforced break, however,  we don't
> generally get on well in Wales.
>
> Sadly we don't have a points cushion to help us ease back in and there is
no
> guarantee that we will continue our winning streak especially with no ER
> home support  I'm sure MB has all this in hand, We are well versed with
> disappointments over the years - perhaps we can shake these off and see it
> through.
>
>
>
> Dave
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>
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>
> As a paid up member of the Grumpy Old Men Society, it is not surprising
>
> that I mutter "the world's gone mad" about three times a day.but
>
> having said that, I really do think that the amount of delusional thinking
>
> in all walks of life nowadays has reached, well dare-I-say-it pandemic
>
> proportions.
>
>
>
> And one example of such is all these Leeds fans and players who are
>
> blathering about wanting the se

Re: [LU] Delusional or Footballs coming back

2020-06-09 Thread Guy Thornton
Ah, the proverbial glass half-full or half-empty question mixed with archetypal 
whinging yorkies.
Well I'm siding with Da Rev and Naffy. Always look on the bright side 
Anyway makes no difference what we think, say or whinge. It looks like Football 
really is returning. The EFL are 
meeting today - originally should have been yesterday but it was put back - to 
(hopefully/probably) finalize the 
proposals, which for anyone who hasn't seen them are:

The season is set to restart 20 June with games 20/21 and 27/28 June
No midweek games first week
Final regular games 21/22 July with play-off final Sunday 2 or Monday 3 August
Fixture schedule will be over six time slots Friday to Sunday: 18.00 & 20.00 
Friday, 12.30,15.00, 17.30 Saturday 
and 12.00 Sundays plus three time slots Tuesdays and Wednesdays midweek: 17.00, 
18.00 & 20.00
None of the 108 games will be shown free-to-air but 30 games will be shown on 
Sky Sports
All games will be shown on iFollow with season ticket holders able to watch 
their teams games free while those 
without a season ticket games will cost £10.

The provisional fixture list for us is:

Sun Jun 21 Cardiff City A (12:00pm live on Sky Sports)

Sat Jun 27 Fulham H (3:00pm live on Sky Sports)

Tue Jun 30 Luton Town H (7:45pm)

Sat Jul 4 Blackburn Rovers A (3:00pm)*

Tue Jul 7 Stoke City H (7:45pm)*

Sat Jul 11 Swansea City A (3:00pm)*

Tue Jul 14 Barnsley H (7:45pm)*

Sat Jul 18 Derby County A (3:00pm)*

Wed Jul 22 Charlton Athletic H (TBC)*

* = may change subject to broadcast selections

Now sit back, wait for the EFL decisions and enjoy(?)
guy


On 9 Jun 2020 at 9:54, Richard Naef wrote:

Without getting all Zen, neither pessimism or optimism will affect the outcome, 
so looking forward positively with 
nervous excitement is possibly better for you health than expecting the worse. 
Sure if it does go tits up, you 
might protect yourself from the low, but really, every thing points to us being 
the best team and best prepared. 
Of course in the end, nothing really matters and we are just brief flashes of  
deterministic automata running on 
the rails of a cold uncaring universe.

Sent from my Mobile.


From: Leedslist  on behalf of David Smail 

Sent: Monday, June 8, 2020 9:57:47 PM
To: bruvvalee...@yahoo.co.uk 
Cc: leedslist@gn.apc.org 
Subject: Re: [LU] Delusional

With all this unconditional optimism and potentially misplaced good faith,
as in all things, there needs to be a measure of balance without necessarily
being pessimistic
We all want the same conclusion, but some express it differently.
Dave

-Original Message-
From: bruvvalee...@yahoo.co.uk [mailto:bruvvalee...@yahoo.co.uk]
Sent: 08 June 2020 19:17
To: David Smail
Cc: heathpalai...@gmail.com; leedslist@gn.apc.org
Subject: Re: [LU] Delusional

Will the miserable bastards amongst this list please wait until we have
actually lost?

I thank you!

Sent from my iPad

> On 8 Jun 2020, at 04:51, David Smail wrote:
>
> Great minds think alike - I have raised this with a small group of
> supporters at work.
>
> I too would have happily taken promotion as a result of season early
> termination based on the fact that we've done enough already.
>
> All this talk of purity and finishing the season could be disaster for us
as
> you say if we fold again under the pressure. It's the equivalent of
starting
> a new season. One thing we have in our favour is that we do tend to make
> good starts in the early weeks of new campaigns, so I hope this continues.

>
> All teams will be pumped up after the enforced break, however,  we don't
> generally get on well in Wales.
>
> Sadly we don't have a points cushion to help us ease back in and there is
no
> guarantee that we will continue our winning streak especially with no ER
> home support  I'm sure MB has all this in hand, We are well versed with
> disappointments over the years - perhaps we can shake these off and see it
>through.
>
>
>
>Dave
>
>
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>
>
>
>
> As a paid up member of the Grumpy Old Men Society, it is not surprising
>
> that I mutter "the world's gone mad" about three times a day.but
>
> having said that, I really do think that the amount of delusional thinking
>
> in all walks of life nowadays has reached, well dare-I-say-it pandemic
>
>proportions.
>
>
>
> And one example of such is all these Leeds fans and players who are
>
> blathering about wanting the season to be completed and to "earn promotion
>
> on the pitch." They are completely deluded.
>
>
>
> If it does restart, this huge hiatus will have only ramped up the
>
> psychological pressure on the Leeds players. After weeks of reading and
>
> hea

Re: [LU] Delusional

2020-06-09 Thread Peter Castlehouse
Before today, I didn't realise Mettalica would play a part in our destiny, but 
yep, Nothing Else Matters...
Back to lurkdom
Pete
t'oroginal one

-Original Message-
From: Leedslist  On Behalf Of Richard Naef
Sent: Tuesday, 9 June 2020 7:55 PM
To: bruvvalee...@yahoo.co.uk; David Smail 
Cc: leedslist@gn.apc.org
Subject: Re: [LU] Delusional

Without getting all Zen, neither pessimism or optimism will affect the outcome, 
so looking forward positively with nervous excitement is possibly better for 
you health than expecting the worse. Sure if it does go tits up, you might 
protect yourself from the low, but really, every thing points to us being the 
best team and best prepared. Of course in the end, nothing really matters and 
we are just brief flashes of  deterministic automata running on the rails of a 
cold uncaring universe.

Sent from my Mobile.

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Re: [LU] Delusional

2020-06-09 Thread Peter Castlehouse
Mike,
In BIelsa We Trust

-Original Message-
From: Leedslist  On Behalf Of Michael Benjamin
Sent: Tuesday, 9 June 2020 8:12 PM
To: Richard Naef ; bruvvalee...@yahoo.co.uk; 
David Smail 
Cc: leedslist@gn.apc.org
Subject: Re: [LU] Delusional

This is our year.
In Bielsa we believe

Dr. Michael Benjamin


From: Leedslist  on behalf of Richard Naef 

Sent: Tuesday, 9 June 2020, 12:54
To: bruvvalee...@yahoo.co.uk; David Smail
Cc: leedslist@gn.apc.org
Subject: Re: [LU] Delusional

Without getting all Zen, neither pessimism or optimism will affect the outcome, 
so looking forward positively with nervous excitement is possibly better for 
you health than expecting the worse. Sure if it does go tits up, you might 
protect yourself from the low, but really, every thing points to us being the 
best team and best prepared. Of course in the end, nothing really matters and 
we are just brief flashes of  deterministic automata running on the rails of a 
cold uncaring universe.

Sent from my Mobile.


From: Leedslist  on behalf of David Smail 

Sent: Monday, June 8, 2020 9:57:47 PM
To: bruvvalee...@yahoo.co.uk 
Cc: leedslist@gn.apc.org 
Subject: Re: [LU] Delusional

With all this unconditional optimism and potentially misplaced good faith, as 
in all things, there needs to be a measure of balance without necessarily being 
pessimistic We all want the same conclusion, but some express it differently.
Dave

-Original Message-
From: bruvvalee...@yahoo.co.uk [mailto:bruvvalee...@yahoo.co.uk]
Sent: 08 June 2020 19:17
To: David Smail
Cc: heathpalai...@gmail.com; leedslist@gn.apc.org
Subject: Re: [LU] Delusional

Will the miserable bastards amongst this list please wait until we have 
actually lost?

I thank you!

Sent from my iPad

> On 8 Jun 2020, at 04:51, David Smail  wrote:
>
> Great minds think alike - I have raised this with a small group of 
> supporters at work.
>
> I too would have happily taken promotion as a result of season early 
> termination based on the fact that we've done enough already.
>
> All this talk of purity and finishing the season could be disaster for 
> us
as
> you say if we fold again under the pressure. It's the equivalent of
starting
> a new season. One thing we have in our favour is that we do tend to 
> make good starts in the early weeks of new campaigns, so I hope this 
> continues.

>
> All teams will be pumped up after the enforced break, however,  we 
> don't generally get on well in Wales.
>
> Sadly we don't have a points cushion to help us ease back in and there 
> is
no
> guarantee that we will continue our winning streak especially with no 
> ER home support  I'm sure MB has all this in hand, We are well versed 
> with disappointments over the years - perhaps we can shake these off 
> and see it through.
>
>
>
> Dave
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> As a paid up member of the Grumpy Old Men Society, it is not 
> surprising
>
> that I mutter "the world's gone mad" about three times a 
> day.but
>
> having said that, I really do think that the amount of delusional 
> thinking
>
> in all walks of life nowadays has reached, well dare-I-say-it pandemic
>
> proportions.
>
>
>
> And one example of such is all these Leeds fans and players who are
>
> blathering about wanting the season to be completed and to "earn 
> promotion
>
> on the pitch." They are completely deluded.
>
>
>
> If it does restart, this huge hiatus will have only ramped up the
>
> psychological pressure on the Leeds players. After weeks of reading 
> and
>
> hearing how a) promotion was almost in the bag when it stopped, b) if 
> it
>
> starts again promotion will be a formality, or c) the season should be
>
> stopped and Leeds should be handed promotion already, there will be
massive
>
> pressure on the players if they actually do have to go out and do it 
> on
the
>
> pitch.
>
>
>
> I could easily see a superhyped-up Cardiff beating us in the first match.
>
> Imagine if we then do one of our classics and batter Fulham but fail 
> to
>
> finish any moves and they get two chances all game and Mitrovic puts 
> them
>
> both away.
>
>
>
> PRESSURE!
>
>
>
> And we showed in the playoffs last year that we have the capacity to
>
> completely fold when the pressure really mounts. Pablo, for example, 
> was a
>
> complete liability in those last few games. A bowl of jelly would have
>
> contributed more. Dallas, with his experience of big International
>
> occasions, was the only player who reacted we

Re: [LU] Delusional

2020-06-09 Thread Michael Benjamin
This is our year.
In Bielsa we believe

Dr. Michael Benjamin


From: Leedslist  on behalf of Richard Naef 

Sent: Tuesday, 9 June 2020, 12:54
To: bruvvalee...@yahoo.co.uk; David Smail
Cc: leedslist@gn.apc.org
Subject: Re: [LU] Delusional

Without getting all Zen, neither pessimism or optimism will affect the outcome, 
so looking forward positively with nervous excitement is possibly better for 
you health than expecting the worse. Sure if it does go tits up, you might 
protect yourself from the low, but really, every thing points to us being the 
best team and best prepared. Of course in the end, nothing really matters and 
we are just brief flashes of  deterministic automata running on the rails of a 
cold uncaring universe.

Sent from my Mobile.


From: Leedslist  on behalf of David Smail 

Sent: Monday, June 8, 2020 9:57:47 PM
To: bruvvalee...@yahoo.co.uk 
Cc: leedslist@gn.apc.org 
Subject: Re: [LU] Delusional

With all this unconditional optimism and potentially misplaced good faith,
as in all things, there needs to be a measure of balance without necessarily
being pessimistic
We all want the same conclusion, but some express it differently.
Dave

-Original Message-
From: bruvvalee...@yahoo.co.uk [mailto:bruvvalee...@yahoo.co.uk]
Sent: 08 June 2020 19:17
To: David Smail
Cc: heathpalai...@gmail.com; leedslist@gn.apc.org
Subject: Re: [LU] Delusional

Will the miserable bastards amongst this list please wait until we have
actually lost?

I thank you!

Sent from my iPad

> On 8 Jun 2020, at 04:51, David Smail  wrote:
>
> Great minds think alike - I have raised this with a small group of
> supporters at work.
>
> I too would have happily taken promotion as a result of season early
> termination based on the fact that we've done enough already.
>
> All this talk of purity and finishing the season could be disaster for us
as
> you say if we fold again under the pressure. It's the equivalent of
starting
> a new season. One thing we have in our favour is that we do tend to make
> good starts in the early weeks of new campaigns, so I hope this continues.

>
> All teams will be pumped up after the enforced break, however,  we don't
> generally get on well in Wales.
>
> Sadly we don't have a points cushion to help us ease back in and there is
no
> guarantee that we will continue our winning streak especially with no ER
> home support  I'm sure MB has all this in hand, We are well versed with
> disappointments over the years - perhaps we can shake these off and see it
> through.
>
>
>
> Dave
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> As a paid up member of the Grumpy Old Men Society, it is not surprising
>
> that I mutter "the world's gone mad" about three times a day.but
>
> having said that, I really do think that the amount of delusional thinking
>
> in all walks of life nowadays has reached, well dare-I-say-it pandemic
>
> proportions.
>
>
>
> And one example of such is all these Leeds fans and players who are
>
> blathering about wanting the season to be completed and to "earn promotion
>
> on the pitch." They are completely deluded.
>
>
>
> If it does restart, this huge hiatus will have only ramped up the
>
> psychological pressure on the Leeds players. After weeks of reading and
>
> hearing how a) promotion was almost in the bag when it stopped, b) if it
>
> starts again promotion will be a formality, or c) the season should be
>
> stopped and Leeds should be handed promotion already, there will be
massive
>
> pressure on the players if they actually do have to go out and do it on
the
>
> pitch.
>
>
>
> I could easily see a superhyped-up Cardiff beating us in the first match.
>
> Imagine if we then do one of our classics and batter Fulham but fail to
>
> finish any moves and they get two chances all game and Mitrovic puts them
>
> both away.
>
>
>
> PRESSURE!
>
>
>
> And we showed in the playoffs last year that we have the capacity to
>
> completely fold when the pressure really mounts. Pablo, for example, was a
>
> complete liability in those last few games. A bowl of jelly would have
>
> contributed more. Dallas, with his experience of big International
>
> occasions, was the only player who reacted well to the pressure.
>
>
>
> Anyway, that's why I've got everything firmly crossed hoping the season
>
> will NOT get finished.
>
>
>
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Re: [LU] Delusional

2020-06-09 Thread Richard Naef
Without getting all Zen, neither pessimism or optimism will affect the outcome, 
so looking forward positively with nervous excitement is possibly better for 
you health than expecting the worse. Sure if it does go tits up, you might 
protect yourself from the low, but really, every thing points to us being the 
best team and best prepared. Of course in the end, nothing really matters and 
we are just brief flashes of  deterministic automata running on the rails of a 
cold uncaring universe.

Sent from my Mobile.


From: Leedslist  on behalf of David Smail 

Sent: Monday, June 8, 2020 9:57:47 PM
To: bruvvalee...@yahoo.co.uk 
Cc: leedslist@gn.apc.org 
Subject: Re: [LU] Delusional

With all this unconditional optimism and potentially misplaced good faith,
as in all things, there needs to be a measure of balance without necessarily
being pessimistic
We all want the same conclusion, but some express it differently.
Dave

-Original Message-
From: bruvvalee...@yahoo.co.uk [mailto:bruvvalee...@yahoo.co.uk]
Sent: 08 June 2020 19:17
To: David Smail
Cc: heathpalai...@gmail.com; leedslist@gn.apc.org
Subject: Re: [LU] Delusional

Will the miserable bastards amongst this list please wait until we have
actually lost?

I thank you!

Sent from my iPad

> On 8 Jun 2020, at 04:51, David Smail  wrote:
>
> Great minds think alike - I have raised this with a small group of
> supporters at work.
>
> I too would have happily taken promotion as a result of season early
> termination based on the fact that we've done enough already.
>
> All this talk of purity and finishing the season could be disaster for us
as
> you say if we fold again under the pressure. It's the equivalent of
starting
> a new season. One thing we have in our favour is that we do tend to make
> good starts in the early weeks of new campaigns, so I hope this continues.

>
> All teams will be pumped up after the enforced break, however,  we don't
> generally get on well in Wales.
>
> Sadly we don't have a points cushion to help us ease back in and there is
no
> guarantee that we will continue our winning streak especially with no ER
> home support  I'm sure MB has all this in hand, We are well versed with
> disappointments over the years - perhaps we can shake these off and see it
> through.
>
>
>
> Dave
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> As a paid up member of the Grumpy Old Men Society, it is not surprising
>
> that I mutter "the world's gone mad" about three times a day.but
>
> having said that, I really do think that the amount of delusional thinking
>
> in all walks of life nowadays has reached, well dare-I-say-it pandemic
>
> proportions.
>
>
>
> And one example of such is all these Leeds fans and players who are
>
> blathering about wanting the season to be completed and to "earn promotion
>
> on the pitch." They are completely deluded.
>
>
>
> If it does restart, this huge hiatus will have only ramped up the
>
> psychological pressure on the Leeds players. After weeks of reading and
>
> hearing how a) promotion was almost in the bag when it stopped, b) if it
>
> starts again promotion will be a formality, or c) the season should be
>
> stopped and Leeds should be handed promotion already, there will be
massive
>
> pressure on the players if they actually do have to go out and do it on
the
>
> pitch.
>
>
>
> I could easily see a superhyped-up Cardiff beating us in the first match.
>
> Imagine if we then do one of our classics and batter Fulham but fail to
>
> finish any moves and they get two chances all game and Mitrovic puts them
>
> both away.
>
>
>
> PRESSURE!
>
>
>
> And we showed in the playoffs last year that we have the capacity to
>
> completely fold when the pressure really mounts. Pablo, for example, was a
>
> complete liability in those last few games. A bowl of jelly would have
>
> contributed more. Dallas, with his experience of big International
>
> occasions, was the only player who reacted well to the pressure.
>
>
>
> Anyway, that's why I've got everything firmly crossed hoping the season
>
> will NOT get finished.
>
>
>
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Re: [LU] Delusional

2020-06-08 Thread David Smail
With all this unconditional optimism and potentially misplaced good faith,
as in all things, there needs to be a measure of balance without necessarily
being pessimistic 
We all want the same conclusion, but some express it differently.
Dave

-Original Message-
From: bruvvalee...@yahoo.co.uk [mailto:bruvvalee...@yahoo.co.uk] 
Sent: 08 June 2020 19:17
To: David Smail
Cc: heathpalai...@gmail.com; leedslist@gn.apc.org
Subject: Re: [LU] Delusional

Will the miserable bastards amongst this list please wait until we have
actually lost?

I thank you!

Sent from my iPad

> On 8 Jun 2020, at 04:51, David Smail  wrote:
> 
> Great minds think alike - I have raised this with a small group of
> supporters at work. 
> 
> I too would have happily taken promotion as a result of season early
> termination based on the fact that we've done enough already. 
> 
> All this talk of purity and finishing the season could be disaster for us
as
> you say if we fold again under the pressure. It's the equivalent of
starting
> a new season. One thing we have in our favour is that we do tend to make
> good starts in the early weeks of new campaigns, so I hope this continues.

> 
> All teams will be pumped up after the enforced break, however,  we don't
> generally get on well in Wales.
> 
> Sadly we don't have a points cushion to help us ease back in and there is
no
> guarantee that we will continue our winning streak especially with no ER
> home support  I'm sure MB has all this in hand, We are well versed with
> disappointments over the years - perhaps we can shake these off and see it
> through. 
> 
> 
> 
> Dave
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> As a paid up member of the Grumpy Old Men Society, it is not surprising
> 
> that I mutter "the world's gone mad" about three times a day.but
> 
> having said that, I really do think that the amount of delusional thinking
> 
> in all walks of life nowadays has reached, well dare-I-say-it pandemic
> 
> proportions.
> 
> 
> 
> And one example of such is all these Leeds fans and players who are
> 
> blathering about wanting the season to be completed and to "earn promotion
> 
> on the pitch." They are completely deluded.
> 
> 
> 
> If it does restart, this huge hiatus will have only ramped up the
> 
> psychological pressure on the Leeds players. After weeks of reading and
> 
> hearing how a) promotion was almost in the bag when it stopped, b) if it
> 
> starts again promotion will be a formality, or c) the season should be
> 
> stopped and Leeds should be handed promotion already, there will be
massive
> 
> pressure on the players if they actually do have to go out and do it on
the
> 
> pitch.
> 
> 
> 
> I could easily see a superhyped-up Cardiff beating us in the first match.
> 
> Imagine if we then do one of our classics and batter Fulham but fail to
> 
> finish any moves and they get two chances all game and Mitrovic puts them
> 
> both away.
> 
> 
> 
> PRESSURE!
> 
> 
> 
> And we showed in the playoffs last year that we have the capacity to
> 
> completely fold when the pressure really mounts. Pablo, for example, was a
> 
> complete liability in those last few games. A bowl of jelly would have
> 
> contributed more. Dallas, with his experience of big International
> 
> occasions, was the only player who reacted well to the pressure.
> 
> 
> 
> Anyway, that's why I've got everything firmly crossed hoping the season
> 
> will NOT get finished.
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [LU] Delusional

2020-06-08 Thread John Lee via Leedslist
Will the miserable bastards amongst this list please wait until we have 
actually lost?

I thank you!

Sent from my iPad

> On 8 Jun 2020, at 04:51, David Smail  wrote:
> 
> Great minds think alike - I have raised this with a small group of
> supporters at work. 
> 
> I too would have happily taken promotion as a result of season early
> termination based on the fact that we've done enough already. 
> 
> All this talk of purity and finishing the season could be disaster for us as
> you say if we fold again under the pressure. It's the equivalent of starting
> a new season. One thing we have in our favour is that we do tend to make
> good starts in the early weeks of new campaigns, so I hope this continues. 
> 
> All teams will be pumped up after the enforced break, however,  we don't
> generally get on well in Wales.
> 
> Sadly we don't have a points cushion to help us ease back in and there is no
> guarantee that we will continue our winning streak especially with no ER
> home support  I'm sure MB has all this in hand, We are well versed with
> disappointments over the years - perhaps we can shake these off and see it
> through. 
> 
> 
> 
> Dave
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> As a paid up member of the Grumpy Old Men Society, it is not surprising
> 
> that I mutter "the world's gone mad" about three times a day.but
> 
> having said that, I really do think that the amount of delusional thinking
> 
> in all walks of life nowadays has reached, well dare-I-say-it pandemic
> 
> proportions.
> 
> 
> 
> And one example of such is all these Leeds fans and players who are
> 
> blathering about wanting the season to be completed and to "earn promotion
> 
> on the pitch." They are completely deluded.
> 
> 
> 
> If it does restart, this huge hiatus will have only ramped up the
> 
> psychological pressure on the Leeds players. After weeks of reading and
> 
> hearing how a) promotion was almost in the bag when it stopped, b) if it
> 
> starts again promotion will be a formality, or c) the season should be
> 
> stopped and Leeds should be handed promotion already, there will be massive
> 
> pressure on the players if they actually do have to go out and do it on the
> 
> pitch.
> 
> 
> 
> I could easily see a superhyped-up Cardiff beating us in the first match.
> 
> Imagine if we then do one of our classics and batter Fulham but fail to
> 
> finish any moves and they get two chances all game and Mitrovic puts them
> 
> both away.
> 
> 
> 
> PRESSURE!
> 
> 
> 
> And we showed in the playoffs last year that we have the capacity to
> 
> completely fold when the pressure really mounts. Pablo, for example, was a
> 
> complete liability in those last few games. A bowl of jelly would have
> 
> contributed more. Dallas, with his experience of big International
> 
> occasions, was the only player who reacted well to the pressure.
> 
> 
> 
> Anyway, that's why I've got everything firmly crossed hoping the season
> 
> will NOT get finished.
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [LU] Delusional

2020-06-08 Thread Robert Heath
Every comment I read about "when" we are in the premier league.the
players we will sign and the stadium improvements we will make etc..I
am reminded of last year when the press started printing all those articles
about Bielsa being in the PL and that idiot Noggy actor started mouthing
off.and I get VERY nervous!

On Mon, Jun 8, 2020 at 5:51 AM David Smail  wrote:

> Great minds think alike – I have raised this with a small group of
> supporters at work.
>
> I too would have happily taken promotion as a result of season early
> termination based on the fact that we’ve done enough already.
>
> All this talk of purity and finishing the season could be disaster for us
> as you say if we fold again under the pressure. It’s the equivalent of
> starting a new season. One thing we have in our favour is that we do tend
> to make good starts in the early weeks of new campaigns, so I hope this
> continues.
>
> All teams will be pumped up after the enforced break, however,  we don’t
> generally get on well in Wales.
>
> Sadly we don’t have a points cushion to help us ease back in and there is
> no guarantee that we will continue our winning streak especially with no ER
> home support  I’m sure MB has all this in hand, We are well versed with
> disappointments over the years – perhaps we can shake these off and see it
> through.
>
>
>
> Dave
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> As a paid up member of the Grumpy Old Men Society, it is not surprising
>
> that I mutter "the world's gone mad" about three times a day.but
>
> having said that, I really do think that the amount of delusional thinking
>
> in all walks of life nowadays has reached, well dare-I-say-it pandemic
>
> proportions.
>
>
>
> And one example of such is all these Leeds fans and players who are
>
> blathering about wanting the season to be completed and to "earn promotion
>
> on the pitch." They are completely deluded.
>
>
>
> If it does restart, this huge hiatus will have only ramped up the
>
> psychological pressure on the Leeds players. After weeks of reading and
>
> hearing how a) promotion was almost in the bag when it stopped, b) if it
>
> starts again promotion will be a formality, or c) the season should be
>
> stopped and Leeds should be handed promotion already, there will be massive
>
> pressure on the players if they actually do have to go out and do it on the
>
> pitch.
>
>
>
> I could easily see a superhyped-up Cardiff beating us in the first match.
>
> Imagine if we then do one of our classics and batter Fulham but fail to
>
> finish any moves and they get two chances all game and Mitrovic puts them
>
> both away.
>
>
>
> PRESSURE!
>
>
>
> And we showed in the playoffs last year that we have the capacity to
>
> completely fold when the pressure really mounts. Pablo, for example, was a
>
> complete liability in those last few games. A bowl of jelly would have
>
> contributed more. Dallas, with his experience of big International
>
> occasions, was the only player who reacted well to the pressure.
>
>
>
> Anyway, that's why I've got everything firmly crossed hoping the season
>
> will NOT get finished.
>
>
>
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