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Re: Roger's new work of Art

2024-03-30 Thread 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills

There are no words to describe the craftsmanship of this beautiful piece. Just wow!!Denson IngramSent from Denson's iPhoneOn Mar 30, 2024, at 9:57 AM, Bob Mark wrote:Such beautiful work.. I. An only dream of having those skills.Bob MarlOn Mar 29, 2024, at 8:22 PM, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills wrote:Hello Everyone.Roger (Ccm Ccm) made these table, He told me that he could not get the pix. size down enough to share with the Group.I think this is a breath taking work of Art. and I feel everyone in the group. should see it.Good job Roger! C.A.G.

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Re: Note to all Members (New and old...)

2024-02-04 Thread 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills

I try to read all posts. I am guilty of not posting. Life has been very busy lately. I’ll try to do better this year.I do very much appreciate all the good advise, tips and tricks from all the friendly folks on this site.ThanksDensonSent from Denson's iPhoneOn Feb 4, 2024, at 12:03 PM, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills wrote:
Hey there Rick, Ken & Diana.thank you for the kind notes.talk to you all more latter.C.A.G.

On Sunday, February 4, 2024 at 12:46:39 PM EST, Rick Hutley wrote:

A warm welcome to all of our new members. While I am guilty of only sporadic postings myself, I have found this group - and its members - both knowledgeable and very friendly. I look forward to keeping this group active .. and fun!RickSent from my iPhoneOn Feb 4, 2024, at 11:34, Jeff Richmond wrote:Ditto on that.Jeff from Connecticut Sent from my iPhoneOn Feb 4, 2024, at 11:27 AM, Tim Ziegler wrote:Great advice Curt.
On Sun, Feb 4, 2024, 10:17 AM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills wrote:Hello Everyone.Just a note to all, We have some NEW People here on the group.Even though you are approved to become members, your posting still need to be approved (by Me or Tim K.) to have full access to the group. Please post a note/message to the group as soon as you can. As a General rule of thumb, it takes three to four posting before you can be granted full access to the group. So I ask everyone to post an introductory message to the group, in this way everyone can get to know you. and start you way to becoming a full member to the group. To those "Lurkers" out there. With out commentary our group can not function as it was meant to be.Google no longer sponsors Groups. so even though we are still here. many of the resources we once had are no longer open to us.It has been a fear, for a while. If we don't keep our group active, we may find one day that Our group could be disbanded.So Please drop us a line or two, Even though you may not be using the Legacy as much as you like. Ideas, Projects, and problems you may have run into, are all still important to us.So again, As a General rule of thumb, I feel that there is no such a thing as a dumb question. If you don't know, then there is a very good chance others in our group will not know, either. If for some reason you don't want to post to the group. Please feel free to contact me (E-mail, curt.geo...@yhoo.com) If I can not help you , I will post your question under my name, to see if others in the group can .So in short. POST when you can, and keep an open line of commentary, so we can all learn from the experience. C.A.G.

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Re: 4 in 1 belt sander plan

2023-11-09 Thread 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills

Thanks TimLooks like a great project.DensonSent from Denson's iPhoneOn Nov 9, 2023, at 12:21 PM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:Here is something some of you may be interested in building. Kind Regards,Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & SpecialtyZiegler Laser Worx LLC14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cell



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Re: ROLL CALL!!!

2023-08-27 Thread 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills

Milt you are a little North and West of me. I’m in Keller, Tx. Do a little of most anything in woodworking. Have a Model 900 LOM.Denson IngramSent from Denson's iPhoneOn Aug 27, 2023, at 1:34 PM, Milt wrote:Milt now in Amarillo. New shop finally up and working. Been turning walking sticks, building tables and generally having fun. I lurk a lot for sure Use my Powermatic for final sanding. Enjoy the group and all the dialogue for sure. Sent from my iPhoneOn Aug 27, 2023, at 12:35 PM, Tom Dotta wrote:Hey Guys Take this as both an apology and a Big 'Thank You' for all of your postings often read though not responded to. Cheers and much appreciation Tom D California

Re: ROLL CALL!!!

2023-08-23 Thread 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills

Hey David glad you are on the mend. I got one of those chest zippers back in 2003. Not a problem since.Happy travels Mike. Sounds like you are having fun.DensonSent from Denson's iPhoneOn Aug 23, 2023, at 11:37 AM, Steven Jacobs wrote:Still Lurking!Thx,Steve JacobsOn Aug 23, 2023, at 10:58 AM, Tracy Smith wrote:I'm here as well. Just lurking. I haven't done too much for the last few years (since covid). I do enjoy seeing the discussions and work being done.TracyOn Mon, Aug 21, 2023 at 6:58 AM Owner wrote:Yea Craig, the move made me realize I need to consolidate and upgrade my equipment so I’m selling off my Delta DJ-20 8” jointer and Powermatic 209HH 20 Planer in favor of a 16” Fielder silent cutter head jointer-planer to create more space.
Michael Kratky492 County Rd 113Northville, N.Y. 12134Res (518) 863-2821Mobile (518) 207-7247Email;krat...@roadrunner.com

On Aug 20, 2023, at 7:17 PM, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills wrote:
Hey there Mike. I am glad to hear, You are still on this side of the daisies. But WOW, a lot has happened since we last heard form you. Take care, Be safe and Please let us know how you are doing.C.A.G.

On Sunday, August 20, 2023 at 05:50:18 PM EDT, Owner wrote:

Hi Everybody.Still vertical just sold out lock stock and barrel and move to a new location with a 36’ wide X 32’ deep 3 bay work shop where all my equipment is parked; needs insulation, wall board, wiring, heat and AC so I have my work cut out for me not to mention I’m scheduled for both knees to get replaced in 2 1/2 months which will put me down for 6 months to a year depending who you talk to. Will be looking to rent a place in Florida for the winter to recuperate if anyone reading this has something to rent there.
Kind regards, Michael Kratky492 County Rd 113Northville, N.Y. 12134Res (518) 863-2821Mobile (518) 207-7247Email;krat...@roadrunner.com

On Aug 19, 2023, at 1:09 AM, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills wrote:Hi guys! I know its summer Vacation season for most of you.But I was wondering if anyone has heard form any of our senor members, We have not heard from in quite a while / long time.How about Roger (English Roger) comes to mind...or Michael Kratky? Brigitte? Joe B.?... I could name more old friends of ours. But I think you all know who you are.It would be nice for everyone to chime in and say hello. (just to let us know you all are OK?) Mac or Russ, are you guys still lurking around?(HOW about BOB? or David, Charlie?...)(AND the list goes on!) ;-) Have a good night everyone.C.A.G.

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Re: Legacy's Classic Spiral Router Bit - A router bit design with many uses.

2023-08-23 Thread 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills

Thanks Mac and Bill for that reminder.DensonSent from Denson's iPhoneOn Aug 23, 2023, at 5:51 AM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:hi all mac asked me to forward this to the group he thought some members might find it interesting  Bill From: M.W.Foscue  Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2023 1:09 AMTo: Tim Krause ; Timothy Ziegler ; Curtis George ; Bill Bulkeley ; Mike Pung - LOM Guru Subject: Fw: Legacy's Classic Spiral Router Bit - A router bit design with many uses. Hi guys, Thought the below is worth sharing.Ya'll may want to shoot it out to The Group. Have a Terrific Taco Tuesday!Mac-Forwarded Message-From: Legacy Woodworking Machinery Sent: Aug 22, 2023 1:29 AMTo: Wayne Foscue Subject: Legacy's Classic Spiral Router Bit - A router bit design with many uses.  Hi Wayne,Legacy originally designed the Classic Spiral router bit to turn a spiral twist; however, this versatile router bit profile can be used in a variety of applications from custom molding to spiral twist to turning details. UPCOMING EMAILSIn upcoming emails we will demonstrate how to combine various router bits to create a wide variety of designs for moldings, turnings, part processing, and much more.  The Classic Spiral router bit is available in four sizes ranging from 1" diameter to 3" diameter.  You can purchased each bit individually or as a set by ordering No 3950 from www.magnate.net  In a previous email we demonstrated how to combine the Classic Spiral router bit and a Plunge Flat Round Over router bit to create molding.  You can quickly machine linear, arched, circular, and swan neck molding.  You can use the same router bit combination to wrap the molding around a radius by turning the same profile using the Turning Workstation.The Display Table is one of our training projects and features the Classic Spiral router bit to turn the bead on the tapered legs. Call 801 491 0010 or visit out website to learn more about CNC woodworking without limitationslwmcnc.com   Sent to: mwfos...@earthlink.netUnsubscribeLegacy Woodworking Machinery, 435 W. 1000 N., Springville, UT 84663, United States 



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Re: ROLL CALL!!!

2023-08-19 Thread 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills

Heh David,Prayers for complete recovery.Would love to see you again.The Shopsmith is still humming away.Also safe travels Mike sounds like great adventures.DensonSent from Denson's iPhoneOn Aug 19, 2023, at 10:37 AM, M.W.Foscue wrote:David,
Wow! So sorry to hear of your having had a heart attack.
Just raised you upp in prayer for a full recovery - soon!
That chest is BEAUTIFUL! Thanks for sharing.
I do remember you posting pics of several things you made from cedar last year (or maybe it was in 2021). ALL of it was gorgeous!
Where in TX are you?
Have a healthy and fun-filled weekend. Seeing the weather forecast for Texas - be sure to avoid getting too hot and stay hydrated!
Mac

-Original Message-From: Sent: Aug 19, 2023 10:28 AMTo: Subject: Re: ROLL CALL!!!
Hi Curt,
I check my email daily and I appreciate all the posts and newer people who have joined up. I haven’t been active here or in the shop. I had a heart attack last September and haven’t done much work other than taking care of myself. I’m hoping to get back out to the shop as soon as it cools off (it’s pretty much been in the 100’s here everyday in Texas) and get some of my cedar blanket chest’s built in time for Christmas. I’m sure I posted pictures before, but here’s another. I do miss building these, everyone loves them.
David
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On Aug 19, 2023, at 8:40 AM, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills wrote:

Glad to hear you are having an Adventure Mike. I hope you have a GREAT Time, and Be safe.
Looking forward to hear more, latter.
Take care, And Thanks for chiming in.
C.A.G.

On Saturday, August 19, 2023 at 09:33:48 AM EDT, Okla Mike (Liltwisted) wrote:

I'm still here and lurk when I can but am on the road quite a bit. Will be in California in a couple days and then on to Alaska for the month of September. Then Oct will be in Arizona. I hope somebody mows my lawn. LOL.
Mike Pung
AKA Mike OK

On 8/19/2023 12:09 AM, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills wrote:

Hi guys! I know its summer Vacation season for most of you.
But I was wondering if anyone has heard form any of our senor members, We have not heard from in quite a while / long time.
How about Roger (English Roger) comes to mind...
or Michael Kratky? Brigitte? Joe B.?... I could name more old friends of ours. But I think you all know who you are.
It would be nice for everyone to chime in and say hello. (just to let us know you all are OK?)
Mac or Russ, are you guys still lurking around?
(HOW about BOB? or David, Charlie?...)(AND the list goes on!) ;-)
Have a good night everyone.
C.A.G.

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Re: Something old & Something New.

2023-05-31 Thread 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills

The step by step process would be of great help to me and perhaps others on the board that have not tried template work on the LOM. If you would be so kind to share these steps it would be greatly appreciated.Thank youDensonSent from Denson's iPhoneOn May 31, 2023, at 12:15 AM, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills wrote:
Hello Denson.Im here if you need me. The only thing you need to remember the templates are general. meaning they are not meant for fine control, so small details will not fully show up. Its not like a Vaga lathe duplicator (making exact copy of spindles.) It give you the general shape and control of the cut, for general shape and for roping or fluting on a curve.If you like I can write up a step by step process, Its not hard, its just not the same process as you are use to. I know once you try it, You will find a hole new world in the way you make parts, and spindles.I wish you luck. Please let us know how it turns out. ;-)C.A.G.

On Tuesday, May 30, 2023 at 03:09:38 PM EDT, 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills wrote:

Thanks Curt. I’m getting ready to try some template usage. I may have to call on you for help.DensonSent from Denson's iPhoneOn May 30, 2023, at 5:52 AM, Tim Ziegler wrote:Thats a lot of templates. Thanks for sharing Curt.Anyone else out there using templates< would love to hear about it?Kind Regards,Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & Specialty14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cellOn Mon, May 29, 2023 at 9:56 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:
I am glad to hear you like it.Template work is so very, Neat and easy to do on the Legacy.In the past, it use to take me a hole day to get at template made.Today I have appx. 400 templates that I've made.In the past I made my templates out of wood and MDF, but today I use Plexiglas and other plastics. (Plastic's make a much better template then what I use to use.) and it takes up a lot less room in my shop.Here are two out of three template holders in my shop.More latter.Have a good night.C.A.G.

On Monday, May 29, 2023 at 10:29:55 PM EDT, Tim Ziegler <timjzieg...@gmail.com> wrote:

Good stuff, Curt I will have to try that process once. Kind Regards,Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & Specialty14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cellOn Mon, May 29, 2023 at 9:22 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:
Part IIC.A.G.

On Monday, May 29, 2023 at 10:18:21 PM EDT, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:

Hi Guys!We were talking about template work and cutting form the side of the work piece. I found an old video in which Legacy was doing exactly that. Since I can not post any Legacy video's,I though I would do the next best thing. So here are a few pix's . step by step...As you can see, the template and work piece are in the first photo. they use a 1/2 straight bit cutting form the side. using a core box bit the edges are trimmed, then using a Vee bit the rope and latter diamond cut was made.Hope this works. If you like this there are other projects, you can see if you like.C.A.G.

Re: Something old & Something New.

2023-05-30 Thread 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills

Thanks Curt. I’m getting ready to try some template usage. I may have to call on you for help.DensonSent from Denson's iPhoneOn May 30, 2023, at 5:52 AM, Tim Ziegler wrote:Thats a lot of templates. Thanks for sharing Curt.Anyone else out there using templates< would love to hear about it?Kind Regards,Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & Specialty14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cellOn Mon, May 29, 2023 at 9:56 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills wrote:
I am glad to hear you like it.Template work is so very, Neat and easy to do on the Legacy.In the past, it use to take me a hole day to get at template made.Today I have appx. 400 templates that I've made.In the past I made my templates out of wood and MDF, but today I use Plexiglas and other plastics. (Plastic's make a much better template then what I use to use.) and it takes up a lot less room in my shop.Here are two out of three template holders in my shop.More latter.Have a good night.C.A.G.

On Monday, May 29, 2023 at 10:29:55 PM EDT, Tim Ziegler wrote:

On Monday, May 29, 2023 at 10:18:21 PM EDT, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills wrote:

Re: Today's projects

2023-05-23 Thread 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills

Like working your fingers to the bone Great workDensonSent from Denson's iPhoneOn May 22, 2023, at 10:09 PM, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills wrote:
Bill. I'm hurt, (Down to the bone!) ;-pC.A.G.

On Monday, May 22, 2023 at 08:07:54 PM EDT, wrote:

I don’t I love your bone turnings Bill From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2023 9:04 AMTo: Legacy ornamental mills Subject: Today's projects Hello Everyone.I don't know if you all are getting tired of seeing my bone turnings or not. If you are I am sorry, I am having such a good time playing with this materialI may be getting carried away with working with it. Here is last months projects, all in one photo. as well as the three I did today. Any question or comments, Please feel free to speak up. talk to you all more latter. C.A.G.-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/1401737311.615021.1684796632525%40mail.yahoo.com.

Re: Hello and Welcome to the Group.

2023-04-26 Thread 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills

Welcome to the group Tim (my youngest son is named Tim) and good luck on the heart valve install.DensonSent from Denson's iPhoneOn Apr 26, 2023, at 7:17 AM, Eric Gantner  wrote:Good Morning Tim P. ,When you are ready, I would like to come and visit.  I live off Big Bend and 301.  I have a 900 and a Wood Chuck but I have been so busy I have not been able to use it.  I am hands on type of learner, so maybe you can show me what you know.  God Speed today wishing you a speedy recovery.Eric G.  On Wed, Apr 26, 2023 at 12:05 AM Tim Porter  wrote:Thanks.  I look forward to being a contributor.  For a while I will be kind of quiet.  Getting a new heart valve installed tomorrow.  What fun!TimSent from my iPadTim and Cathy Porter1902 Dandridge St  D7Sun City Center FL 33573H. 813-419-4169C. 815-861-1505On Apr 25, 2023, at 8:44 AM, Curt George  wrote:
Hello again Tim.(I am forwarding this e-mail to the group. So they too can get to know you.)If you need, I have the taps to make/replace the split nuts, just in case your daughter has any problems making them for you.The Group has more then a few really good people in it.  If and when you run into any problems just ask and I know someone in the group will know how to fix the problem you may be running into.We need all kinds of people in our group. Not just the masters, We need people to ask question as well, many people will not step up and offer ideas, but will answer if a question is asked and they know the answer being asked. We also need the "Dreamers" (those people who are always looking for the "What IF's" And "How can I do that, type of person.Again Welcome to the group.I am looking forward to knowing you more.Have a good day.C.A.G.





On Tuesday, April 25, 2023 at 05:26:24 AM EDT, Tim Porter  wrote:



Hi CurtI look forward to being a part of this group.  I live in a 55+ community with a really nice woodworking shop. I have been a machinist for my career and just began woodworking a few months ago.  We have a Legacy model 900 in the shop and I have been learning to use it, so far a few sets of table legs.I have to mention that I owned (2nd generation) and large machine shop which is now being operated by my daughter.  She is going to have a small run of the half nuts made for me, as the ones in our machine are very worn.  This is definitely something I would be happy to offer to interested folks.Thanks TimSent from my iPadTim and Cathy Porter1902 Dandridge St  D7Sun City Center FL 33573H. 813-419-4169C. 815-861-1505On Apr 24, 2023, at 11:44 PM, Curt George  wrote:Welcome to the Group. I will approve your request right after I sign off with you in this Welcome aboard message.  The Legacy Ornamental Mills users group was made to help owners of the LOM to get the most out of their milling machines as possible.  "Why should I have to make all those mistakes myself" was the main question asked by many owners.  The answer to the big question here is to share information with others whom are like yourself.  For those who want to learn and become the best woodworkers possible, the Legacy Ornamental Mill (LOM) is a very good machine, but there is a slight learning curve that need to be understood before you can master the machine. Its like me giving you a paint brush and asking you to paint me a master piece on canvas. just because you have all the parts needed does not make you a master! ;-)We have over 500 members today, most are willing to share a helping hand to others who are in need.  This is mainly an e-mail group. (Yes the web site works, but the system was set up to link our messages together through our E-mails, Pictures can be attached, and quicker reply's can be done through the e-mail.) Tim and I have a standing policy that there is no such thing as a dumb question, except perhaps the one not asked?  For those that are not comfortable asking questions to a group, you can e-mail Tim or me. curt.geo...@yahoo.com or Tim's,  artmarb...@comcast.net at any time and ask your questions in complete privacy. If we do not know the answers you ask, we can/will send them to the group under our names so know one will know where the question came form.Please feel free to search our archives. I know you will find a wealth  of information at your disposal.One more note, I ask everyone to make a short introduction to the group. I think of it as an ice breaker so everyone can get to know a little bit about you.  Something simple, name, types of woodworking you like to do, perhaps equipment you own? How long you have been wood working, stuff like that. I hope to be talking to you very soon on the group page.Have a good night.Curtis A George. (C.A.G.)





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Re: Lending Sticks

2023-04-07 Thread 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills

Great idea. I’m sure the idea and concept will be appreciated.DensonSent from my iPadOn Apr 7, 2023, at 8:36 PM, Mike Newman  wrote:I have been learning a lot on the LOM since it came home with me.  Some of the sticks I have made that are part of the learning process had been sitting in the corner of my shop.  I decided to talk to the director of a local nature center that has hiking trails and offered to donate walking sticks for visitors to use while they are walking around the trails.  I put together a quick display stand and simple sign explaining the concept.  I delivered it Friday and they were pretty excited.  



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Re: Pilaster molding kit

2023-03-16 Thread 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills

Hey Tim,Did you at one time make and sell your TK Bed height adjustment tool for LOM 900? ThanksDensonSent from Denson's iPhoneOn Mar 16, 2023, at 2:40 PM, Dan Krager  wrote:Agreed, that's how the kit was held to the head stock spur, and the plastic ,
which is also applied to a spur, had the center hole for the tail stock. The design of the kit seems to require a fixture for the tail stock.  Why couldn't this whole notion be done on a wood stick with four rabbets at the corners to hold the pilaster? That leads back to the question of how the pilaster stock was held on the kit.  What am I missing?DanKOn Thursday, March 16, 2023 at 3:21:03 PM UTC-4 Cole Andrews wrote:I just saw another post , yes they definitely used screws.

On Thu, Mar 16, 2023 at 2:16 PM Cole Andrews  wrote:
>
> I would have to look at my set when I get home , but I remember a
> 10/24 screw going through each end  into a threaded insert on the
> pilaster dog. After you finish turning you cut those pieces off
>
> On Thu, Mar 16, 2023 at 1:42 PM Tim Ziegler  wrote:
> >
> > thanks again Dan, so if I recall I used screws or stove bolts I would have to revisit the process my self.
> > Someone else may jump in with different ideas??
> > I think they are threaded but now I'll have to go out and look again.
> >
> >
> > Kind Regards,
> >
> > Timothy J. Ziegler
> > Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> > 14171 160th Ave.
> > Foreston MN 56330
> >
> > 320-294-5798 shop
> > 320-630-2243 cell
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Mar 16, 2023 at 11:53 AM Dan Krager  wrote:
> >>
> >> Started this new conversation about pilaster molding to branch off the lengthy Design Kit conversation.
> >>
> >> The idea is clever and the holding kit is easily made in metal using a square tube or wood.  So that is a route I will take.
> >>
> >> One thought I had is that the design shown does not yield a full 1/4 section of the turning it represents.  In some cases that may not matter.  I've been known to quarter a full turning on the tablesaw, so one creates a similar less than full quarter section of the turning by removing the saw kerf.  The only way to get a full quarter section is to glue up four pieces with newspaper separators that easily split apart when done turning but hold strong enough to do the turning.  A full quarter section molding applied appears bold next to a reclusive less than full quarter section. Sometimes the difference is so subtle that it doesn't matter, and perhaps sometimes the reclusive appearance is desirable. It's a concept I hadn't spent much time thinking about in my 60 years woodworking!
> >>
> >> A second thought is something I must have missed along the line.  How is the pilaster piece actually secured to the jig?
> >>
> >> DanK
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Re: Bone dust Sunday!

2023-02-19 Thread 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills

Wow that’s a load. Lots of work ahead. EnjoyDensonSent from Denson's iPhoneOn Feb 19, 2023, at 11:12 AM, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills  wrote:Hello Everyone.I got a very good deal on some bone last week.  buy one get one free, And the price was lower then anywhere that I have found in a long time. So I bought some, and then went back and bought some more (twice.) ;-)I still have some work to do, to get these disks ready for glue up. but I am happy with what I've done so far. (bone dust is everywhere in my shop!)Here are some photo's.(I should have everything flattened out and made true latter today.)C.A.G.



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Re: Thin Stock support block dimensions

2023-02-16 Thread 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills

Great job Mike, works just like it ought.DensonSent from Denson's iPhoneOn Feb 16, 2023, at 9:51 PM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:Good deal, with a pc of stock that long you may want the second one in there too. Then also lighter cuts and you will have it made.Kind Regards,Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & Specialty14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cellOn Thu, Feb 16, 2023 at 7:54 PM Mike Newman <mrnewma...@outlook.com> wrote:I was able to sneak out to the shop tonight to try out the thin stock support.  It worked almost perfect and much better than the first one I made.  Turned down a poplar blank for my first tapered walking stick and there was limited chatter.  Still a couple of things to pay attention to but definitely the way to go for me right now.<20230216_190339.jpg>On Wednesday, February 15, 2023 at 11:14:24 PM UTC-6 Curt George wrote:
Very nice, Mike.I think it should work well for you.Best of luck.C.A.G.





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I finished my new thin stock support earlier tonight based on the info you guys provided.  I have not tried it yet but should work similar to the factory one.  I will throw another walking stick blank up on the LOM this weekend and see how it works.On Monday, February 13, 2023 at 10:48:26 PM UTC-6 Denson Ingram wrote:Yes sir you are welcome.DensonSent from my iPadOn Feb 13, 2023, at 9:40 PM, Tim Ziegler <timjz...@gmail.com> wrote:Hey Denson thanks for jumping in on that. Great job.Kind Regards,Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & Specialty14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cellOn Mon, Feb 13, 2023 at 5:49 PM 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> wrote:Mike those pieces are 2 1/4” w x 1 1/4” L x 1 1/4” thickDensonSent from Denson's iPhoneOn Feb 13, 2023, at 5:20 PM, Mike Newman <mrnew...@outlook.com> wrote:Does anyone already have the dimension for the hdpe blocks used on the factory thin stock support?  I finally found a block of the material that I can make my own, but wanted to get the dimensions.  Overall dimensions and then size/position of the v-notch should be all I need.  I will attach it to my cross member I used for my first trial design.  If anyone has one of the actual factory take a few measurements and post them or email me direct.  I can figure it out if nobody has a factory one, but thought I would quickly check before I go down that road?  thanks



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Re: Specialty needs wood turning

2023-02-15 Thread 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills

Proud of those suckers!Thanks for sharing Tim.DensonSent from Denson's iPhoneOn Feb 15, 2023, at 11:29 AM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:Hey I was just referred to this site and thought we all could do some browsing and find something. Check out their threadingattachment for the lathe. https://bestwoodtools.stores.yahoo.net/doca.htmlKind Regards,Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & Specialty14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cell



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Re: Jig for French rolling pins and other turning tips

2023-02-13 Thread 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills

I would think a template on the LOM could be made to do that. I haven’t used the template on my legacy yet…may have to try that.DensonSent from my iPadOn Feb 13, 2023, at 9:39 PM, Tim Ziegler wrote: Very interesting video for sure thanks for sharing. I have an attachment that hooks to my duplicator that holds a router and would follow a template but i have never set it up to do that. Kind Regards,Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & Specialty14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cellOn Mon, Feb 13, 2023 at 5:43 PM Owner wrote:Supercharged Router Jigyoutube.comMichael Kratky119 Riverview Rd., Northville, N.Y. 12134518 863-2821text 518 207-7247Email;krat...@roadrunner.com

On Feb 13, 2023, at 6:24 PM, Mike Newman wrote:I see that these have a fairly pronounced taper. I researched this years ago when I was making/selling these and it appears that there is alot of variation and personal preference to the tapers that people use. Fortunately when I had my sawmill/live edge furniture business I had a ton of 2-2.5 thick drop that I would cut into 2 x 2 sq stock to make rolling pins our of on my lathe.On Monday, February 13, 2023 at 1:12:43 PM UTC-6 Owner wrote:Note the taper.
Michael Kratky119 Riverview Rd., Northville, N.Y. 12134518 863-2821text 518 207-7247Email;kra...@roadrunner.com

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Re: Thin Stock support block dimensions

2023-02-13 Thread 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills

Yes sir you are welcome.DensonSent from my iPadOn Feb 13, 2023, at 9:40 PM, Tim Ziegler wrote:Hey Denson thanks for jumping in on that. Great job.Kind Regards,Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & Specialty14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cellOn Mon, Feb 13, 2023 at 5:49 PM 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:Mike those pieces are 2 1/4” w x 1 1/4” L x 1 1/4” thickDensonSent from Denson's iPhoneOn Feb 13, 2023, at 5:20 PM, Mike Newman <mrnewma...@outlook.com> wrote:Does anyone already have the dimension for the hdpe blocks used on the factory thin stock support? I finally found a block of the material that I can make my own, but wanted to get the dimensions. Overall dimensions and then size/position of the v-notch should be all I need. I will attach it to my cross member I used for my first trial design. If anyone has one of the actual factory take a few measurements and post them or email me direct. I can figure it out if nobody has a factory one, but thought I would quickly check before I go down that road? thanks

Re: Thin Stock support block dimensions

2023-02-13 Thread 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills

Mike those pieces are 2 1/4” w x 1 1/4” L x 1 1/4” thickDensonSent from Denson's iPhoneOn Feb 13, 2023, at 5:20 PM, Mike Newman  wrote:Does anyone already have the dimension for the hdpe blocks used on the factory thin stock support?  I finally found a block of the material that I can make my own, but wanted to get the dimensions.  Overall dimensions and then size/position of the v-notch should be all I need.  I will attach it to my cross member I used for my first trial design.  If anyone has one of the actual factory take a few measurements and post them or email me direct.  I can figure it out if nobody has a factory one, but thought I would quickly check before I go down that road?  thanks



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Re: ribbon spiral

2023-01-31 Thread 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills

Mike that was me that was running lolDensonSent from Denson's iPhoneOn Jan 31, 2023, at 11:14 AM, Okla Mike (Liltwisted)  wrote:

  
  
I saw a guy running from a dyslexic nurse who was
told the prick his boil.

On 1/31/2023 10:47 AM, 'Denson Ingram'
  via Legacy Ornamental Mills wrote:


  
  Lol Tim
  On the farm we used to throw the cow over the fence some
hay.
  Denson

Sent from Denson's iPhone

  On Jan 31, 2023, at 5:59 AM, Tim
Ziegler  wrote:

  


  
Well at least you can have Coffee together
  and solve the world's problems lol. 
  

  
Kind Regards,
  
  
  Timothy J. Ziegler
  Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
  14171 160th Ave.
  Foreston MN 56330
  
  
  320-294-5798 shop
  320-630-2243 cell

  


  



  On Tue, Jan 31, 2023 at
5:38 AM <bulke...@mmnet.com.au>
wrote:
  
  

  

  Well
  I’m dyslexic too and living upside down didn’t
  help me so don’t count on it lol
   
  Bill
   
  

      From: 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy
  Ornamental Mills <legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>
  
  Sent: Tuesday, 31 January 2023 4:15
  PM
  To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: ribbon spiral

  
   
  Hey Bill I just thought of
something that might be beneficial to me. I’m
dyslexic so coming to visit you might cure that.
Whatcha think? Lol
  
Denson
  
  
PS 
  
  
good
  work guys all masterful work. If I ever get
  through working on 3 Shopsmith’s I picked up
  for a song I’ll spend some time on my 900.

  Sent from my iPad


  

  
  
On Jan 30,
  2023, at 7:14 PM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au
  wrote:
  


  

Patience
Mac remember I’m handicapt I’m doing all
this upside down lol 
 
Bill
  
 

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  On Behalf Of M.W.Foscue
  Sent: Tuesday, 31 January 2023
  11:54 AM
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  Bill
  - Ah ha -you are correct.
  So
  now, insert some more "scrolls"
  imbedded into your first pass.  LoL.
  Thanks.
  Mac
  
  
  
  
   


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Re: ribbon spiral

2023-01-31 Thread 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills

Lol TimOn the farm we used to throw the cow over the fence some hay.DensonSent from Denson's iPhoneOn Jan 31, 2023, at 5:59 AM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:Well at least you can have Coffee together and solve the world's problems lol. Kind Regards,Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & Specialty14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cellOn Tue, Jan 31, 2023 at 5:38 AM <bulke...@mmnet.com.au> wrote:Well I’m dyslexic too and living upside down didn’t help me so don’t count on it lol Bill From: 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> Sent: Tuesday, 31 January 2023 4:15 PMTo: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: ribbon spiral Hey Bill I just thought of something that might be beneficial to me. I’m dyslexic so coming to visit you might cure that. Whatcha think? LolDensonPS good work guys all masterful work. If I ever get through working on 3 Shopsmith’s I picked up for a song I’ll spend some time on my 900.Sent from my iPadOn Jan 30, 2023, at 7:14 PM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:Patience Mac remember I’m handicapt I’m doing all this upside down lol  Bill  From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of M.W.FoscueSent: Tuesday, 31 January 2023 11:54 AMTo: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.comSubject: RE: ribbon spiral Bill - Ah ha -you are correct.So now, insert some more "scrolls" imbedded into your first pass.  LoL.Thanks.Mac -Original Message-From: <legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>Sent: Jan 30, 2023 7:46 PMTo: <legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>Subject: RE: ribbon spiral Keep going Eric by the time your up and running we might have the ribbon scroll spiral perfected and Mac Ribbon twist is something different  this is a ribbon twist  What I’m making is a ribbon scroll spiral People are always getting the 2 mixed up Bill  From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Eric GantnerSent: Tuesday, 31 January 2023 11:07 AMTo: Legacy Ornamental Mills <legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>Subject: Re: ribbon spiral That’s cool, I am still putting my 900 together.  Eric G. On Monday, January 30, 2023 at 1:49:59 PM UTC-5 Va Oak wrote:Bill,Nice - thanks for sharing.Now how about going back to that one and adding one "ribbon twist" between the one you just made.Than go back and add one onto that one - creating "stacked twists"?Mac-Original Message-From: <legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com>Sent: Jan 30, 2023 4:06 AMTo: <legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com>Subject: ribbon spiral Got a bit of shop time today so I used my new z axis and made a quick ribbon spiral, no how to video sorryhttps://www.dropbox.com/s/64wu97rffw9r89r/ribbon%20spiral.mp4?dl=0 just a few seconds of it finished. I have a few adjustments to do a finer pitch I think 4 inches insteadof 8 inches  and I will do it on a tapered blank this one was a strait blank.This is actually my first one of these I always meant to mill one with my first tilting z axis but I never did seem to find the time. Bill  -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/01d93489%24e78e5910%24b6ab0b30%24%40mmnet.com.au. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/78a06536-62a8-4625-b1bb-ddf8c2025cfan%40googlegroups.com. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/01d9350d%2460102ca0%24203085e0%24%40mmnet.com.au. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/c4e63f7f-0d13-4c74-ecb8-0781a45a7709%40earthlink.net.-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop rece

Re: ribbon spiral

2023-01-30 Thread 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills

Hey Bill I just thought of something that might be beneficial to me. I’m dyslexic so coming to visit you might cure that. Whatcha think? LolDensonPS good work guys all masterful work. If I ever get through working on 3 Shopsmith’s I picked up for a song I’ll spend some time on my 900.Sent from my iPadOn Jan 30, 2023, at 7:14 PM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:Patience Mac remember I’m handicapt I’m doing all this upside down lol  Bill  From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of M.W.FoscueSent: Tuesday, 31 January 2023 11:54 AMTo: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.comSubject: RE: ribbon spiral Bill - Ah ha -you are correct.So now, insert some more "scrolls" imbedded into your first pass.  LoL.Thanks.Mac -Original Message-From: Sent: Jan 30, 2023 7:46 PMTo: Subject: RE: ribbon spiral Keep going Eric by the time your up and running we might have the ribbon scroll spiral perfected and Mac Ribbon twist is something different  this is a ribbon twist  What I’m making is a ribbon scroll spiral People are always getting the 2 mixed up Bill  From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Eric GantnerSent: Tuesday, 31 January 2023 11:07 AMTo: Legacy Ornamental Mills Subject: Re: ribbon spiral That’s cool, I am still putting my 900 together.  Eric G. On Monday, January 30, 2023 at 1:49:59 PM UTC-5 Va Oak wrote:Bill,Nice - thanks for sharing.Now how about going back to that one and adding one "ribbon twist" between the one you just made.Than go back and add one onto that one - creating "stacked twists"?Mac-Original Message-From: Sent: Jan 30, 2023 4:06 AMTo: Subject: ribbon spiral Got a bit of shop time today so I used my new z axis and made a quick ribbon spiral, no how to video sorryhttps://www.dropbox.com/s/64wu97rffw9r89r/ribbon%20spiral.mp4?dl=0 just a few seconds of it finished. I have a few adjustments to do a finer pitch I think 4 inches insteadof 8 inches  and I will do it on a tapered blank this one was a strait blank.This is actually my first one of these I always meant to mill one with my first tilting z axis but I never did seem to find the time. Bill  -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/01d93489%24e78e5910%24b6ab0b30%24%40mmnet.com.au. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/78a06536-62a8-4625-b1bb-ddf8c2025cfan%40googlegroups.com. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/01d9350d%2460102ca0%24203085e0%24%40mmnet.com.au. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/c4e63f7f-0d13-4c74-ecb8-0781a45a7709%40earthlink.net.



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Re: Steady rest up-date

2023-01-29 Thread 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills

Great job Curt. When you compensate for a larger diameter piece of wood do you lower the rails that the skate wheels ride in?ThanksDensonSent from Denson's iPhoneOn Jan 29, 2023, at 9:02 PM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:Very cool curt I love it you can change out the wood slides for different dia hollow spirals  Bill From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Tim ZieglerSent: Monday, 30 January 2023 1:34 PMTo: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: Steady rest up-date right but all good things have changes and mods to them. Add his suggestions and you will have a very good and useful tool. Good job. Kind Regards, Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & Specialty14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330 320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cell  On Sun, Jan 29, 2023 at 6:53 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills  wrote:Two more to get a fully look. Mike is 100% right, the start and end need help. ;-) C.A.G. On Sunday, January 29, 2023 at 07:40:43 PM EST, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills  wrote:   Thanks Mike. Noted, thank you. C.A.G. On Sunday, January 29, 2023 at 07:32:59 PM EST, Okla Mike (Liltwisted)  wrote:   So I see that the follower carriage is connected to your router carriage so it will always cut in the center of the stock guides.  The only thing I can see that might be an issue is the beginning of the cut and the end of the cut.  If you add springs and take away the solid attachment, and then shave off the top of the brackets to be able to pass the router bit from one end to the other, you would take care of the start and stop of the cut.  The springs would hold it centered until the guide carriage contacted the head or tailstock.  At that point the carriage would stop and the springs would allow the router carriage to continue an finish the cut.Mike OKOn 1/29/2023 6:16 PM, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills wrote:Hello Everyone. This proto type steady rest is done, There are a few things that I will change, but it dose work pretty good.Here are the photo's. Let's hear what you all think? C.A.G. On Sunday, January 29, 2023 at 02:05:36 PM EST, Tim Ziegler  wrote:   Interesting Curt, yeah keep us posted on what you come up with. Kind Regards,  Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & Specialty14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330 320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cell  On Sun, Jan 29, 2023 at 8:23 AM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills  wrote:Hello Everyone. Along with Mike P. comments on going to pawn shops looking for tools, I did the next best thing.  Salvation Army store.  I was not looking for tools, what I wanted was a set of roller blades, And I found them for $5.00. What I found was a pair of Kids roller blade (roller skates) that looked brand new, I took them apart and plan to use them for my new steady rest. (No photo's at this time.) But Note, My plans/hopes, for today is to make a new steady rest for my Legacy.  If all goes well, I should have something to show everyone latter today.AS a side note. I found a photo of an OT steady rest form the 1800's.(something out-side the box to think about.)Have a good day.talk to you all more latter. C.A.G. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/2144718182.573591.1675002186382%40mail.yahoo.com.-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/CAMBiJLGZTOJjz9Kp8ACzS%3D3mqYQVqkC%3DX%2BSUqHJTDzDS3dFz1A%40mail.gmail.com.-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/439110433.655996.1675037769641%40mail.yahoo.com.-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/e34fc325-5a22-1bd5-a70f-5f5fa237b8dc%40iglide.net.-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental

Re: a mystery

2023-01-22 Thread 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills

I believe they are fingfods of a condojanerSent from Denson's iPhoneOn Jan 22, 2023, at 9:56 AM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:Yea I was looking for 3 hours and I have given up Bill From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Tim ZieglerSent: Monday, 23 January 2023 2:49 AMTo: LOM Group Subject: Re: a mystery No clue Bill  On Sun, Jan 22, 2023, 7:40 AM  wrote:Ok guys a mystery to solve this pic came up when I was searching the internet for old woodworking toolsI don’t think they are anything to do with wood, now I don’t have the answer and its annoying I want to know what the hell they are, 3 sets of 2 and 3 sizes too.Any ideas I’m stumped Bill-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/000301d92e67%240561b960%2410252c20%24%40mmnet.com.au.-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/CAMBiJLH%3Dq2QM4pYnHjBnyEJK9TxaG1tf8UR%2Bnm1fG-zns%2BhNrA%40mail.gmail.com.



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Re: music

2023-01-21 Thread 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills

I’m sorry I don’t but if you go to YouTube and search sound of silence Disturbed you’ll get it.Let me know what you think.DensonSent from Denson's iPhoneOn Jan 21, 2023, at 2:01 PM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:Here is the link Tim https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9Dg-g7t2l4_channel=Disturbed Interesting version but this one a is still my favourite apart from the native American one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gdVjVtpr55M_channel=PentatonixVEVO Bill   From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Tim ZieglerSent: Sunday, 22 January 2023 6:31 AMTo: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: music Attach the link if you find it. I will be back on the computer  later. Kind Regards, Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & Specialty14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330 320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cell  On Sat, Jan 21, 2023 at 1:28 PM <bulke...@mmnet.com.au> wrote:No I haven’t I will have to look it up Bill From: 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> Sent: Sunday, 22 January 2023 5:11 AMTo: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: music Love the Sound of Silence.Have you heard the version by  Disturbed? Thanks fo sharingDensonSent from Denson's iPhone On Jan 21, 2023, at 8:23 AM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:Beautiful Beautiful stuff Bill From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> Sent: Sunday, 22 January 2023 12:22 AMTo: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: music Bill here is another  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gVwJfyINmq4  The sound form a Pan flute is  breathtaking, And Leo Rojas Is one of the best. C.A.G. On Saturday, January 21, 2023 at 03:00:17 AM EST, bulke...@mmnet.com.au <bulke...@mmnet.com.au> wrote:   And now something totally not legacy your native Americans really are somethingNothing like this down under ,simply beautiful https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndUCNnhH03Q_channel=WuauquikunaOfficial Bill-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/01d92d6e%2460f82d30%2422e88790%24%40mmnet.com.au.-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/81000.117318.1674307327570%40mail.yahoo.com.-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/001f01d92da2%24c3258c30%244970a490%24%40mmnet.com.au.-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/83147881-7D80-4549-B057-BD197B069F0C%40yahoo.com.-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/000d01d92dce%2481d36cd0%24857a4670%24%40mmnet.com.au.-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/CAMBiJLF-O7UWtQqoffsxnHdbR_XjeeWn9TJjev0cPpFZ1ZxedA%40mail.gmail.com.



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Re: music

2023-01-21 Thread 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills

Love the Sound of Silence.Have you heard the version by  Disturbed? Thanks fo sharingDensonSent from Denson's iPhoneOn Jan 21, 2023, at 8:23 AM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:Beautiful Beautiful stuff Bill From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills  Sent: Sunday, 22 January 2023 12:22 AMTo: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: music Bill here is another  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gVwJfyINmq4  The sound form a Pan flute is  breathtaking, And Leo Rojas Is one of the best. C.A.G. On Saturday, January 21, 2023 at 03:00:17 AM EST, bulke...@mmnet.com.au  wrote:   And now something totally not legacy your native Americans really are somethingNothing like this down under ,simply beautiful https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndUCNnhH03Q_channel=WuauquikunaOfficial Bill-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/01d92d6e%2460f82d30%2422e88790%24%40mmnet.com.au.-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/81000.117318.1674307327570%40mail.yahoo.com.



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Re: STOP THE PRESS, NEW SPLIT NUT

2023-01-18 Thread 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills

TimThanks for the details on making the split nut.DensonSent from Denson's iPhoneOn Jan 18, 2023, at 10:17 PM, Okla Mike (Liltwisted) wrote:

Spoke with Cindy today and she sent a drawing of
the split nut. Here it is for anyone who would like it. Also
had a link to some Delrin.
https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.amazon.com_BuyPlastic-2DDelrin-2DAcetal-2DCopolymer-2DPlastic_dp_B08M6GL5J4_ref-3Dsr-5F1-5F1-5Fsspa-3Fcrid-3DW167H062AMGD-26keywords-3DBlack-252BDelrin-26qid-3D1673991547-26sprefix-3Dblack-252Bdelrin-252B-252Caps-252C125-26sr-3D8-2D1-2Dspons-26spLa-3DZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUEzS1JRRVA2SUQyMk9SJmVuY3J5cHRlZElkPUEwNjg4NjE1MUI1SUhQWDFIUlVVVSZlbmNyeXB0ZWRBZElkPUEwODEzMTE3M1VGVUlCUTRJRjJJNSZ3aWRnZXROYW1lPXNwX2F0ZiZhY3Rpb249Y2xpY2tSZWRpcmVjdCZkb05vdExvZ0NsaWNrPXRydWU-26th-3D1=DwMFaQ=euGZstcaTDllvimEN8b7jXrwqOf-v5A_CdpgnVfiiMM=EiSmJGnwOotC7uMYII2hfys7Krtpj215bytLA3BUICM=WLbg8itsi5LsyJcpmtPfqadu7pagz-HIe0ImQOLk5cg=-0eGD1BaqN4DFN2TaxK8AR-iNRoSUDapKZ6fos0ewvU=
Mike OK

On 11/6/2022 8:56 PM,
timjz...@gmail.com wrote:

Well I finally took the time to make a couple of split nuts from a
material
referred to as HDPE, a self healing white plastic that
actually drills and
taps very nicely.
I took all my measurements from an other split nut. and cut
to a size the
block I'd be using. I marked out and drilled the piece with a
11 mm Brad point
bit. Then I put in vise and proceeded to tap the ACME thread.
Going back and
forth continually cleaning it out.
Once I completed that I cut the block in 2 pieces on the
scroll saw.
I then marked the hole for the thumb screw and drilled with a
6.5 mm drill bit.
Tapping then with a 5/16 course thread tap.
During the drilling process I used the Rocker pen vise.
To trim the Blocks to fit I used the Rockler Small Parts Jig
to hold the block,
and save the fingers.
Overall I am super happy I took the time to make some and
they fit perfect.
there is NO play in that carriage now. Not sure how long they
will last, but may
make some with Delrin at some point too.
See photos attached.

Kind regards,

Tim J Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell

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Re: Looking for a better steady rest for the Legacy

2023-01-16 Thread 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills

Good ideas. I see one that could be adopted for Shopsmith.Thanks CurtDensonSent from Denson's iPhoneOn Jan 16, 2023, at 9:27 PM, Tim Ziegler wrote:Yup but we have to remember the router carriage has to pass over it. Kind Regards,Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & Specialty14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cellOn Mon, Jan 16, 2023 at 9:17 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills wrote:
This will be my last posting on this tonight.But I think I got it. <1673924533877blob.jpg>If we/I make two bottom rails like shown here. and mount them on the Legacy under the spindle, then make a third wheel and mount it to the Legacy's carriage, This way the Legacy is maintaining pressure on the spindle while its cutting, the lower wheels are keeping the spindle straight. With something like this, the router should cut cleanly ,the spindle can not move away from the cutter, do to the constant pressure it has to stay true.The lower rails are mounted onto the Legacy adjustable rails, so tappers and detailing should not be any problems.At this point its just an idea. but One that I think will work.talk to you all more tomorrow.C.A.G.

On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 09:52:31 PM EST, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills wrote:

Here is a neat idea. Im not sure how it can be used on the Legacy. but ...?<1673923911341blob.jpg>C.A.G.

On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 09:15:26 PM EST, Tim Ziegler wrote:

yup lots of good idea's out there. Kind Regards,Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & Specialty14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cellOn Mon, Jan 16, 2023 at 8:05 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills wrote:I've been looking for new ideas. I am looking for A better steady rest for the Legacy.Perhaps something that will either ride on the carriage or possibility of riding in the side rails and to be pushed by the carriage? Side rails would be nice, since then you would not have any problems with tapered spindles.Self adjusting would also be nice! So far I have not seen what I want, but though I would pass some idea's along to you guys.What I have works, but I want better.Any and Or all ideas are welcome.Here are some links. Its time to put on our (collective) thinking caps on. ;-) C.A.G. https://www.instructables.com/Steady-Rest-for-Wood-Lathe/<1673918317293blob.jpg><1673918720762blob.jpg><1673918821632blob.jpg><1673919238701blob.jpg><1673920832187blob.jpg>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2EaBNVQw9dI=193s See a copy lathe steady in action...C.A.G.

Re: Plastic gears

2023-01-11 Thread 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills

Tim maybe you could go to a pulley system and hang one or more from the ceiling.LolDensonSent from Denson's iPhoneOn Jan 11, 2023, at 5:48 PM, Jeff Richmond  wrote:That’s one way to do it. I don’t know that I could bring myself to discard the rest. I would feel obligated to find it a new home. (Probably mine, lol)Jeff from ConnecticutSent from my iPhoneOn Jan 11, 2023, at 5:17 PM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:The thing is $900 or even $1500 if you could get a big mill with it on just have parts shipped to you and have the owner scrap the restA drive motor and controllers were worth $889 plus the 4X gears plus what ever else extras come with the big  mill you still would be in front Bill  From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jeff RichmondSent: Thursday, 12 January 2023 8:23 AMTo: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: Plastic gears I have been keeping my eyes out. Even though they were an option, the previous owner (if they had them) doesn’t typically want to sell them separately. (Can’t blame them really) Those machines aren’t the ones that break down for shipment very well at 1200 or so pounds. Harder to hide in the corner of the garage too. Lol Jeff from Connecticut Sent from my iPhoneOn Jan 11, 2023, at 4:15 PM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:Every now and again they come up for sale on one of the really large mills if you could get one at a good price you would have a setAnd of course have a column making mill too lol Bill From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Tim ZieglerSent: Thursday, 12 January 2023 7:54 AMTo: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: Plastic gears Good information and thanks for posting it Bill. Just don;t seem to be any interest in actually getting a X 4 gear set. really to bad. I want it just because its available. Not sure I would use it more then to play but...Kind Regards, Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & Specialty14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330 320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cell  On Wed, Jan 11, 2023 at 2:40 PM <bulke...@mmnet.com.au> wrote:Legacy sold the set back in the day for $480.00 if they still made them today it would be double that I bet.I got mine from roger phebe the legsacy international sales person back then he retired but before he left he did a deal with me for lots ofLegacy parts including enough parts to make up a 4x set and my revo mill, I’m not sure roger is with us anymore I have not heard from him in a very long time he use to post here on the group al the time.I found a way around the 4x set before I owned them by using a sprockets and chain I mounted another spindle below the main oneAnd connecting them with a 2 to 1 or 3 or 4 to one sprockets  then when you used the 4X gears on your mill it turned them into 8x and more on the lower spindleI don’t have better pics sorry I took these pics years ago and it was part of a side milling mod I made for milling lager dia and longer work than the mill was made to do and template following on the same large work . it was a way of making large columns and putting round holes and dowls in the ends I could make however many needed to make one big lone columns. The mod is here https://ornamentalmills.com/Bill_Bulkeley/side_cutting_mod.html The 4x gears are mainly used on very large dia projects but not always if you’re a crazy legacy nut like me lol Bill     From: 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> Sent: Thursday, 12 January 2023 3:09 AMTo: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: Plastic gears My Lord!!! That is a complicated set of gears. It would have to come with a manual just to know how to use it/them. I assume Legacy sold this gear set?This is the only time I have seen them. Do you know what these sold for new? How did you come by them?Thanks for posting them BillDensonSent from Denson's iPhone On Jan 10, 2023, at 10:46 PM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:The 4x gears consist of almost 30 gears and lots of those are double gears and linkages too involved in the 4X gears I own a set Very complicated gear set Bill From: 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> Sent: Wednesday, 11 January 2023 2:49 PMTo: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: Plastic gears Does anyone have a 4x multiplier set? If so could you post close up pi’s of the gears set please.I have a .50 reduction set that I will post pics of if anyone would like pics of let me know.DensonSent from Denson's iPhoneOn Jan 10, 2023, at 10:04 AM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:Me too  Bill From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Jeff RichmondSent: Wednesday, 11 January 2023 12:49 AMTo: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: Plastic gears Nice job Curt. I am really interested to see where this goes. Jeff from Con

Re: Plastic gears

2023-01-11 Thread 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills

Great job Curt. What is the process for making a plastic gear?DensonSent from Denson's iPhoneOn Jan 11, 2023, at 5:48 PM, Jeff Richmond  wrote:That’s one way to do it. I don’t know that I could bring myself to discard the rest. I would feel obligated to find it a new home. (Probably mine, lol)Jeff from ConnecticutSent from my iPhoneOn Jan 11, 2023, at 5:17 PM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:The thing is $900 or even $1500 if you could get a big mill with it on just have parts shipped to you and have the owner scrap the restA drive motor and controllers were worth $889 plus the 4X gears plus what ever else extras come with the big  mill you still would be in front Bill  From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jeff RichmondSent: Thursday, 12 January 2023 8:23 AMTo: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: Plastic gears I have been keeping my eyes out. Even though they were an option, the previous owner (if they had them) doesn’t typically want to sell them separately. (Can’t blame them really) Those machines aren’t the ones that break down for shipment very well at 1200 or so pounds. Harder to hide in the corner of the garage too. Lol Jeff from Connecticut Sent from my iPhoneOn Jan 11, 2023, at 4:15 PM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:Every now and again they come up for sale on one of the really large mills if you could get one at a good price you would have a setAnd of course have a column making mill too lol Bill From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Tim ZieglerSent: Thursday, 12 January 2023 7:54 AMTo: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: Plastic gears Good information and thanks for posting it Bill. Just don;t seem to be any interest in actually getting a X 4 gear set. really to bad. I want it just because its available. Not sure I would use it more then to play but...Kind Regards, Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & Specialty14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330 320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cell  On Wed, Jan 11, 2023 at 2:40 PM <bulke...@mmnet.com.au> wrote:Legacy sold the set back in the day for $480.00 if they still made them today it would be double that I bet.I got mine from roger phebe the legsacy international sales person back then he retired but before he left he did a deal with me for lots ofLegacy parts including enough parts to make up a 4x set and my revo mill, I’m not sure roger is with us anymore I have not heard from him in a very long time he use to post here on the group al the time.I found a way around the 4x set before I owned them by using a sprockets and chain I mounted another spindle below the main oneAnd connecting them with a 2 to 1 or 3 or 4 to one sprockets  then when you used the 4X gears on your mill it turned them into 8x and more on the lower spindleI don’t have better pics sorry I took these pics years ago and it was part of a side milling mod I made for milling lager dia and longer work than the mill was made to do and template following on the same large work . it was a way of making large columns and putting round holes and dowls in the ends I could make however many needed to make one big lone columns. The mod is here https://ornamentalmills.com/Bill_Bulkeley/side_cutting_mod.html The 4x gears are mainly used on very large dia projects but not always if you’re a crazy legacy nut like me lol Bill     From: 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> Sent: Thursday, 12 January 2023 3:09 AMTo: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: Plastic gears My Lord!!! That is a complicated set of gears. It would have to come with a manual just to know how to use it/them. I assume Legacy sold this gear set?This is the only time I have seen them. Do you know what these sold for new? How did you come by them?Thanks for posting them BillDensonSent from Denson's iPhone On Jan 10, 2023, at 10:46 PM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:The 4x gears consist of almost 30 gears and lots of those are double gears and linkages too involved in the 4X gears I own a set Very complicated gear set Bill From: 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> Sent: Wednesday, 11 January 2023 2:49 PMTo: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: Plastic gears Does anyone have a 4x multiplier set? If so could you post close up pi’s of the gears set please.I have a .50 reduction set that I will post pics of if anyone would like pics of let me know.DensonSent from Denson's iPhoneOn Jan 10, 2023, at 10:04 AM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:Me too  Bill From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Jeff RichmondSent: Wednesday, 11 January 2023 12:49 AMTo: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: Plastic gears Nice job Curt. I am really interested to see where this goes. Jeff from Connecticut Sent from m

Re: Plastic gears

2023-01-11 Thread 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills

Thanks Tim.DensonSent from Denson's iPhoneOn Jan 11, 2023, at 4:17 PM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:The thing is $900 or even $1500 if you could get a big mill with it on just have parts shipped to you and have the owner scrap the restA drive motor and controllers were worth $889 plus the 4X gears plus what ever else extras come with the big  mill you still would be in front Bill  From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jeff RichmondSent: Thursday, 12 January 2023 8:23 AMTo: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: Plastic gears I have been keeping my eyes out. Even though they were an option, the previous owner (if they had them) doesn’t typically want to sell them separately. (Can’t blame them really) Those machines aren’t the ones that break down for shipment very well at 1200 or so pounds. Harder to hide in the corner of the garage too. Lol Jeff from Connecticut Sent from my iPhoneOn Jan 11, 2023, at 4:15 PM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:Every now and again they come up for sale on one of the really large mills if you could get one at a good price you would have a setAnd of course have a column making mill too lol Bill From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Tim ZieglerSent: Thursday, 12 January 2023 7:54 AMTo: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: Plastic gears Good information and thanks for posting it Bill. Just don;t seem to be any interest in actually getting a X 4 gear set. really to bad. I want it just because its available. Not sure I would use it more then to play but...Kind Regards, Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & Specialty14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330 320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cell  On Wed, Jan 11, 2023 at 2:40 PM <bulke...@mmnet.com.au> wrote:Legacy sold the set back in the day for $480.00 if they still made them today it would be double that I bet.I got mine from roger phebe the legsacy international sales person back then he retired but before he left he did a deal with me for lots ofLegacy parts including enough parts to make up a 4x set and my revo mill, I’m not sure roger is with us anymore I have not heard from him in a very long time he use to post here on the group al the time.I found a way around the 4x set before I owned them by using a sprockets and chain I mounted another spindle below the main oneAnd connecting them with a 2 to 1 or 3 or 4 to one sprockets  then when you used the 4X gears on your mill it turned them into 8x and more on the lower spindleI don’t have better pics sorry I took these pics years ago and it was part of a side milling mod I made for milling lager dia and longer work than the mill was made to do and template following on the same large work . it was a way of making large columns and putting round holes and dowls in the ends I could make however many needed to make one big lone columns. The mod is here https://ornamentalmills.com/Bill_Bulkeley/side_cutting_mod.html The 4x gears are mainly used on very large dia projects but not always if you’re a crazy legacy nut like me lol Bill     From: 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> Sent: Thursday, 12 January 2023 3:09 AMTo: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: Plastic gears My Lord!!! That is a complicated set of gears. It would have to come with a manual just to know how to use it/them. I assume Legacy sold this gear set?This is the only time I have seen them. Do you know what these sold for new? How did you come by them?Thanks for posting them BillDensonSent from Denson's iPhone On Jan 10, 2023, at 10:46 PM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:The 4x gears consist of almost 30 gears and lots of those are double gears and linkages too involved in the 4X gears I own a set Very complicated gear set Bill From: 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> Sent: Wednesday, 11 January 2023 2:49 PMTo: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: Plastic gears Does anyone have a 4x multiplier set? If so could you post close up pi’s of the gears set please.I have a .50 reduction set that I will post pics of if anyone would like pics of let me know.DensonSent from Denson's iPhoneOn Jan 10, 2023, at 10:04 AM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:Me too  Bill From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Jeff RichmondSent: Wednesday, 11 January 2023 12:49 AMTo: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: Plastic gears Nice job Curt. I am really interested to see where this goes. Jeff from Connecticut Sent from my iPhoneOn Jan 9, 2023, at 7:49 PM, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:Hello Everyone.I've been playing around with making gears, (to be pacific, A direct drive for my 200 motor.) This is a proto type of sorts. I have no idea on h

Re: .50 set

2023-01-11 Thread 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills

I’ve never used my set yet lol.DensonSent from Denson's iPhoneOn Jan 11, 2023, at 4:35 PM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:Yes mac you would hardly ever use them it would be only be if you were trying to match an existing spiral I believeBut it would be nice just to have a set .I think if you changed out the small gear bolted on the standard gear set to one double that diaIt would convert the standard set to a .5 gear set something I been thinking about for a while I have several standard gear setsI have yet to see if that is true but I think it might Bill From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of M.W.FoscueSent: Thursday, 12 January 2023 8:51 AMTo: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: Fwd: .50 set Very nice.  Thanks.Who made them - and how? Now for the "important" question:  Where do they fit in as far as usability - what do you make with them that you can't with the Standard or the .25 set?  Or are they like the 4X set - that folks own but only use once or twice - if at all< Thanks.Mac-Original Message-From: Sent: Jan 11, 2023 2:26 PMTo: LOM Group Subject: Fwd: .50 set Denson's .5 gear set    Kind Regards,  Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & Specialty14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330 320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cell -- Forwarded message -From: Denson Ingram Date: Wed, Jan 11, 2023 at 10:18 AMSubject: .50 setTo: Tim Ziegler Sent from Denson's iPhone -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/CAMBiJLG5SAXNZMrLibhv82ZPgJm2jM1fubJ%3D0TzBwtWKNfXAZQ%40mail.gmail.com. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/981f1174-58f9-0e0e-52c2-e5df134d4b0a%40earthlink.net.



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Re: Plastic gears

2023-01-11 Thread 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills

I’m sorry Tim I may have sent the .50 pics to you instead of the group. If so could you post to group .Thank youDensonSent from Denson's iPhoneOn Jan 11, 2023, at 10:09 AM, Denson Ingram  wrote:My Lord!!! That is a complicated set of gears. It would have to come with a manual just to know how to use it/them. I assume Legacy sold this gear set?This is the only time I have seen them. Do you know what these sold for new? How did you come by them?Thanks for posting them BillDensonSent from Denson's iPhoneOn Jan 10, 2023, at 10:46 PM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:The 4x gears consist of almost 30 gears and lots of those are double gears and linkages too involved in the 4X gears I own a set Very complicated gear set Bill From: 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills  Sent: Wednesday, 11 January 2023 2:49 PMTo: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: Plastic gears Does anyone have a 4x multiplier set? If so could you post close up pi’s of the gears set please.I have a .50 reduction set that I will post pics of if anyone would like pics of let me know.DensonSent from Denson's iPhoneOn Jan 10, 2023, at 10:04 AM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:Me too  Bill From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Jeff RichmondSent: Wednesday, 11 January 2023 12:49 AMTo: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: Plastic gears Nice job Curt. I am really interested to see where this goes. Jeff from Connecticut Sent from my iPhoneOn Jan 9, 2023, at 7:49 PM, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:Hello Everyone.I've been playing around with making gears, (to be pacific, A direct drive for my 200 motor.) This is a proto type of sorts. I have no idea on how well these gear teeth will hold up? I did use it today on making a handle for a screw driver.and played with this motor hook up and gears for the better part of the day.  So far it looks good, but time will tell. Please let me know what you think?talk to you all more latter. C.A.G.-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/1865702317.4276528.1673311779412%40mail.yahoo.com.<200 plastic gear2.JPG><200 plastic gears1.JPG><200 plastic gears3.JPG><200 plastic gears4.JPG>-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/4117B905-4DE8-4C45-979A-A4F51B75C44C%40gmail.com.-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/000a01d92509%24b4de4820%241e9ad860%24%40mmnet.com.au.-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/286E05FF-815A-452F-ADB6-E1DB9EB2E545%40yahoo.com.



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Re: Plastic gears

2023-01-11 Thread 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills

My Lord!!! That is a complicated set of gears. It would have to come with a manual just to know how to use it/them. I assume Legacy sold this gear set?This is the only time I have seen them. Do you know what these sold for new? How did you come by them?Thanks for posting them BillDensonSent from Denson's iPhoneOn Jan 10, 2023, at 10:46 PM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:The 4x gears consist of almost 30 gears and lots of those are double gears and linkages too involved in the 4X gears I own a set Very complicated gear set Bill From: 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills  Sent: Wednesday, 11 January 2023 2:49 PMTo: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: Plastic gears Does anyone have a 4x multiplier set? If so could you post close up pi’s of the gears set please.I have a .50 reduction set that I will post pics of if anyone would like pics of let me know.DensonSent from Denson's iPhoneOn Jan 10, 2023, at 10:04 AM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:Me too  Bill From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Jeff RichmondSent: Wednesday, 11 January 2023 12:49 AMTo: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: Plastic gears Nice job Curt. I am really interested to see where this goes. Jeff from Connecticut Sent from my iPhoneOn Jan 9, 2023, at 7:49 PM, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:Hello Everyone.I've been playing around with making gears, (to be pacific, A direct drive for my 200 motor.) This is a proto type of sorts. I have no idea on how well these gear teeth will hold up? I did use it today on making a handle for a screw driver.and played with this motor hook up and gears for the better part of the day.  So far it looks good, but time will tell. Please let me know what you think?talk to you all more latter. C.A.G.-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/1865702317.4276528.1673311779412%40mail.yahoo.com.<200 plastic gear2.JPG><200 plastic gears1.JPG><200 plastic gears3.JPG><200 plastic gears4.JPG>-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/4117B905-4DE8-4C45-979A-A4F51B75C44C%40gmail.com.-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/000a01d92509%24b4de4820%241e9ad860%24%40mmnet.com.au.-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/286E05FF-815A-452F-ADB6-E1DB9EB2E545%40yahoo.com.



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Re: Plastic gears

2023-01-10 Thread 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills

I’ll post the .50 set tmrw.ThanksDensonSent from Denson's iPhoneOn Jan 10, 2023, at 10:04 PM, Jeff Richmond  wrote:Yes, please. I would be interested in pictures of both.Jeff from Connecticut Sent from my iPhoneOn Jan 10, 2023, at 10:49 PM, 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills  wrote:Does anyone have a 4x multiplier set? If so could you post close up pi’s of the gears set please.I have a .50 reduction set that I will post pics of if anyone would like pics of let me know.DensonSent from Denson's iPhoneOn Jan 10, 2023, at 10:04 AM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:Me too  Bill From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jeff RichmondSent: Wednesday, 11 January 2023 12:49 AMTo: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: Plastic gears Nice job Curt. I am really interested to see where this goes. Jeff from Connecticut Sent from my iPhoneOn Jan 9, 2023, at 7:49 PM, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:Hello Everyone.I've been playing around with making gears, (to be pacific, A direct drive for my 200 motor.) This is a proto type of sorts. I have no idea on how well these gear teeth will hold up? I did use it today on making a handle for a screw driver.and played with this motor hook up and gears for the better part of the day.  So far it looks good, but time will tell. Please let me know what you think?talk to you all more latter. C.A.G.-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/1865702317.4276528.1673311779412%40mail.yahoo.com.<200 plastic gear2.JPG><200 plastic gears1.JPG><200 plastic gears3.JPG><200 plastic gears4.JPG>-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/4117B905-4DE8-4C45-979A-A4F51B75C44C%40gmail.com.



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Re: Plastic gears

2023-01-10 Thread 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills

Does anyone have a 4x multiplier set? If so could you post close up pi’s of the gears set please.I have a .50 reduction set that I will post pics of if anyone would like pics of let me know.DensonSent from Denson's iPhoneOn Jan 10, 2023, at 10:04 AM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:Me too  Bill From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jeff RichmondSent: Wednesday, 11 January 2023 12:49 AMTo: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: Plastic gears Nice job Curt. I am really interested to see where this goes. Jeff from Connecticut Sent from my iPhoneOn Jan 9, 2023, at 7:49 PM, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills  wrote:Hello Everyone.I've been playing around with making gears, (to be pacific, A direct drive for my 200 motor.) This is a proto type of sorts. I have no idea on how well these gear teeth will hold up? I did use it today on making a handle for a screw driver.and played with this motor hook up and gears for the better part of the day.  So far it looks good, but time will tell. Please let me know what you think?talk to you all more latter. C.A.G.-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/1865702317.4276528.1673311779412%40mail.yahoo.com.<200 plastic gear2.JPG><200 plastic gears1.JPG><200 plastic gears3.JPG><200 plastic gears4.JPG>-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/4117B905-4DE8-4C45-979A-A4F51B75C44C%40gmail.com.



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Re: z axis

2023-01-05 Thread 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills

Way above my abilities. Nice workThanks BillDensonSent from Denson's iPhoneOn Jan 5, 2023, at 12:31 AM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:I don’t mind curt its up to each member what they do most of them have been there for 6 years or more Bill From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills  Sent: Thursday, 5 January 2023 5:05 PMTo: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: z axis Awesome. Sorry about locking off your video's.  I think that's shaky ground. C.A.G. On Thursday, January 5, 2023 at 12:57:01 AM EST,  wrote:   It was posted to the group Bill From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills  Sent: Thursday, 5 January 2023 4:33 PMTo: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: z axis I have seen this Z axis before. He was or still may be one of our group?Nice job. It looks Rock solid! Perhaps you could re-post this to our group and see what happen? C.A.G.On Wednesday, January 4, 2023 at 07:44:41 PM EST, Tim Ziegler  wrote:   Wow that was entertaining. Some pretty serious Machining went into that. Even showed a Triton Router for you Bill.Kind Regards, Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & Specialty14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330 320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cell  On Wed, Jan 4, 2023 at 3:37 PM  wrote:Here are some interesting pics I stumbled onhttps://www.routerforums.com/threads/fabricated-a-z-axis-on-legacy-ornamental-mill-model-1800.91969/#lg=thread-91969=1 Bill-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/000101d92084%24b87b98e0%242972caa0%24%40mmnet.com.au.-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/CAMBiJLH%2BrWPB_Yrh3t6Ldpn1aXb156_V9ca4HqX6fZVoPbbmjQ%40mail.gmail.com.-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/2136594340.4210475.1672896759307%40mail.yahoo.com.-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/001c01d920ca%2482d68600%2488839200%24%40mmnet.com.au.-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/746406986.4311058.1672898724706%40mail.yahoo.com.



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Re: legacy videos

2023-01-05 Thread 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills

That is a great find Bill thanks for sharing. I’ll be watching these later.DensonSent from Denson's iPhoneOn Jan 4, 2023, at 11:46 PM, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills wrote:
Wow! there are a lot of Legacy videos here.I have to admit, some of those CNC turnings are way beyond anything that I can see being done on my Legacy.I do not want to cause any waves here, but I would suggest to all to save this link for your selfs. I am not sure if keeping this link open will cause any breach's with Tim and Andy's working agreement. But to play it safe, I will be locking this link off for further conversations.Sorry guys. I like it but think its heading in the wrong direction, that will make problems...Have a good night all.C.A.G.

On Wednesday, January 4, 2023 at 07:58:30 PM EST, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:

Some interesting videos here even a couple for manual LOMshttps://www.youtube.com/@ekehicilohalin286/videos Bill

Re: New file handles

2023-01-04 Thread 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills

Nice work Curt.DensonSent from Denson's iPhoneOn Jan 4, 2023, at 10:44 AM, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills wrote:
Hello JimThe ridges are only .005 off the body of the handles. ( they can be seen easily by eye, but it took me a few pix. to get them to show up in the photos. Look at photo file handle3. they just do not show up well in the photo.)Here is a plywood box. that I did using the same method.C.A.G.

On Wednesday, January 4, 2023 at 10:54:29 AM EST, jrig...@gmail.com wrote:

Curt,Plexi-glass is a great idea! Our local library has a laser engraver that I can use for free! What bit did you use? How did you smooth out the ridges as shown in the "file handle1.jpg" photo?Jim RiggenJoplin, MOOn Tuesday, January 3, 2023 at 7:09:29 PM UTC-6 Curt George wrote:Hello everyone.First day in the shop since before Christmas,Just playing around with my new template follower and my 200 mill.Any question or comments, are as always Welcome.talk to you all more latter.C.A.G.

Re: Woodworking shows 2023

2022-12-31 Thread 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills

Happy New Year to you allDensonSent from Denson's iPhoneOn Dec 31, 2022, at 8:56 PM, Tim Ziegler wrote:indeed, so did Elmer Fudd lol Kind Regards,Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & Specialty14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cellOn Sat, Dec 31, 2022 at 8:49 PM Okla Mike (Liltwisted) wrote:

I like wabbits! And trail mix!

On 12/31/2022 12:53 PM, Tim Ziegler
wrote:

Sure doesn't take much to go down a rabbit trail
does it??

Thanks for the schedules of shows Mike.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell

On Sat, Dec 31, 2022 at 11:44
AM Okla Mike (Liltwisted)
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Figured I would start a new thread before
the router thread got out of hand LOL
https://www.thewoodworkingshows.com/events/
is the list they have.
2023 Schedule

Baltimore, MD
January 6 – 8

W. Springfield, MA
January 13 – 15

Columbus, OH
January 20 – 22

Indianapolis, IN
January 27 – 29

Atlanta, GA
February 3 – 5

Edison, NJ
February 10 – 12

Milwaukee, WI
February 17 – 19
Mike OK

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Re: Wishing everyone a Very happy New Year.

2022-12-31 Thread 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills

Wow what a mess Steve. How it all turns out well.Happy New Year to all.DensonSent from Denson's iPhoneOn Dec 31, 2022, at 10:30 AM, Steven Jacobs wrote:Happy New Year all!I was getting spooled up to be more active here as life was starting to slow down. I have a nice Revo and 900 CNC to get going again.That was until the deep freeze bit us while in Florida for the holidays. Pipe burst and ran for 3 days. Repairs are in progress and Border Collie does not like it at the Hampton Inn.. I don’t either really.Just another experience I would rather not have! LOLTo all of you and your family around the world I hope you have a very Happy and Safe New Year!Regards,Steve JacobsBrighton, TN. USAOn Dec 31, 2022, at 9:48 AM, Tim Ziegler wrote:Wishing you a happy new year as well Curt. Kind Regards,Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & Specialty14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cellOn Sat, Dec 31, 2022 at 8:35 AM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills wrote:Just wanted to Wish everyone a Happy New Year.I hope (and pray) that This up and coming new year will be aneven better year for Everyone.C.A.G.

Re: Question for all Legacy owners on gears?

2022-12-26 Thread 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills

About ready to turn out the lights. I’ll check tmrw and let you know.ThanksDensonSent from my iPadOn Dec 26, 2022, at 8:56 PM, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills wrote:
Thank you Denson.I plan to do some testing on this gears. First as a coupler for a DC Motor, Much like Bill did.And if the plastic holds up??? Then perhaps something more. It would be neat to be able to reproduce all the gear sets. But that WAY beyond my scope of this idea and, to be honest with everyone, My ability's to do it at this time.Denson you have an 900, Correct? Are the gears teeth the same for the drive gears as the Duplex and indexing plates, on your machine?C.A.G.

On Monday, December 26, 2022 at 09:06:25 PM EST, 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills wrote:

Looks like you maybe on to something. Interesting I want to see more!! Thanks c.a.g.DensonSent from Denson's iPhoneOn Dec 26, 2022, at 5:59 PM, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills wrote:Hello Everyone.I've playing around with a idea. (Its a spin off form Bill's motor mountings topic.)I own a Legacy 1000ex. which has the "OLD" gears.(Small toothed gears) (ones made before Legacy had the use of a laser to make there parts.) the question is are the drive gears the same domestic pitch? (gear tooth thickness) as the indexing gears? Today's project was to make a gear set/coupling gear like Bill has made, but out of plastic's. I have no idea on how well it will (or will Not.) work, Yet. But this idea has made me think about the Gear problem many of our newer uses are running into when buying second hand machines, that is Gears are missing. today I figured out the Domestic pitch, and was able to make a few gears out of Plexiglas that mate up to the larger tooth sets on the newer X2 gear set that I own.If all goes well, It could be possible to re-produce any missing gear needed by any of our group.Please do not ask me to sell or make any thing, for anyone at this time. This is Stickley R stuff .If everything works out, then we "ALL" may be able to profit on the experience learned from this Venture.C.A.G.

Re: Question for all Legacy owners on gears?

2022-12-26 Thread 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills

Re: Christmas

2022-12-25 Thread 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills

Nice 43 degrees in Texas.Merry Christmas to all.DensonSent from Denson's iPhoneOn Dec 25, 2022, at 9:03 AM, Steven Jacobs  wrote:Good morning all from cold NW Florida! Merry Christmas and Gods blessings to all if you and your families!Steve JacobsSent from my iPhoneOn Dec 25, 2022, at 7:27 AM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:Wow, so enjoy your family time.Kind Regards,Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & Specialty14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cellOn Sat, Dec 24, 2022 at 9:39 PM  wrote:Well a pause now after 6 hours of opening presents lol do you believe that 6 hours, turkey is on and cooking Christmas is when weHave it we don’t have thanks giving so we can all sit and talk our Christmas dinner is an evening meal when it’s a little coolerChristmas is a really big deal in my house Bill From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Tim ZieglerSent: Sunday, 25 December 2022 11:49 AMTo: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: Christmas Hey Bill Merry Christmas and a Blessed New Year. We as well have company and will open gifts tonight. Merry Christmas to all a good night. Kind Regards, Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & Specialty14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330 320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cell  On Sat, Dec 24, 2022 at 1:49 PM  wrote:Well everyone its Christmas morning here right now and my family is starting to arrive its present opening timeSo I have to go for a while , so Merry Christmas to everyone and god bless you all, as I see my family coming in the doorI already know I have been.  Bill-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/01d917d0%24c807a180%245816e480%24%40mmnet.com.au.-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/CAMBiJLGMyZ4Ygmy%3DJ_PBrr-%3D%3DotRotNpZQnmLkHbUp73hfedCA%40mail.gmail.com.



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Re: Brett Giger's Master Square Spirals.

2022-12-22 Thread 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills

Great job Brett!! Well done.DensonSent from Denson's iPhoneOn Dec 22, 2022, at 6:16 PM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:Hey Brett has some beautiful work,  and asked me to post it and share. So all done with a straight.bit. This is very impressive work and very unique. We call Brett the Square Spiral master. Check them out and please leave comments for Brett. Enjoy.Kind Regards,Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & Specialty14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cell



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Re: a Christmas carol

2022-12-22 Thread 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills

That’s why I live in Texas lol.Couldn’t stand that. DensonSent from Denson's iPhoneOn Dec 22, 2022, at 1:26 PM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:You should have what we are having, we were at -17 below zero this morning and it's only about -8 right now. Winds are expected to reach 50 mph. And we have over a foot of snow on the ground. uug. Kind Regards,Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & Specialty14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cellOn Thu, Dec 22, 2022 at 12:02 PM 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:Thanks Bill for the interpretation. It’s in the low 20’s and a bit of snow in north TX and going into the teen’s tonight. That’s cold for us Texan’s.Merry Christmas to you all!DensonSent from Denson's iPhoneOn Dec 22, 2022, at 10:17 AM, Dan Krager <cdkra...@gmail.com> wrote:Yes, thank you!   I simply could not decipher the last word of the first line.  cob is a new term (added to my "dictionary") that I had never heard of so it was elusive.  The rest was easier. I even knew what a chinwag was!  LOL.DanKOn Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 11:35:28 PM UTC-5 timjz...@gmail.com wrote:Thanks BillKind Regards,Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & Specialty14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cellOn Wed, Dec 21, 2022 at 6:28 PM <bulk...@mmnet.com.au> wrote:Ok dan here are the words but I’m not sure it will help its all aussi slang lolLolol Bill  From: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com <legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Dan KragerSent: Thursday, 22 December 2022 3:30 AMTo: Legacy Ornamental Mills <legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com>Subject: Re: a Christmas carol Love that 12 days of Aussie Christmas!  I listened to it several times with headphones and still didn't get all the words!  LOL!  Never heard it before.DanK  On Friday, December 16, 2022 at 10:53:21 PM UTC-5 timjz...@gmail.com wrote:yeah I'll be honest it was a scramble and like you guessed caught bits and pieces. more bits then pieces. lol Kind Regards, Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & Specialty14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330 320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cell On Fri, Dec 16, 2022 at 8:39 PM M.W.Foscue <mwfo...@earthlink.net> wrote:Ha Ha, Tim! Do you mean to tell us that you understood anything in that song  - other that the obvious mentions of the number of days of Christmas?!?!?    As Bill will probably admit - It is my guess that the folks singing the song had already drained the kettle of Christmas Punch! - thus making them even more challenging to understand.  LoL! Cheers!Mac  -Original Message-From: <legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com>Sent: Dec 16, 2022 6:54 AMTo: <legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com>Subject: Re: a Christmas carol Wow I must say I've never heard it sung that way. lol love that Aussie slang lol.  Thanks for sharing Bill.Kind Regards,  Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & Specialty14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330 320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cell On Fri, Dec 16, 2022 at 5:38 AM <bulk...@mmnet.com.au> wrote:Ok guys here is a Christmas carol aussi style  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=biVZ8NB0jZE_channel=NancyKuhl for those who like Australian slang  Bill -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/000201d91142%24e59c4dc0%24b0d4e940%24%40mmnet.com.au. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/CAMBiJLGU716w%2Brz_fvs5x7WEx13UOF53khU-Bth7-1cUK9k%3DpA%40mail.gmail.com. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/40836aec-3f6b-629b-d997-ccec745c6480%40earthlink.net.-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/0ebb7798-49fb-47db-9367-4de00c6365adn%40googlegroups.com.



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Re: a Christmas carol

2022-12-22 Thread 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills

Thanks Bill for the interpretation. It’s in the low 20’s and a bit of snow in north TX and going into the teen’s tonight. That’s cold for us Texan’s.Merry Christmas to you all!DensonSent from Denson's iPhoneOn Dec 22, 2022, at 10:17 AM, Dan Krager  wrote:Yes, thank you!   I simply could not decipher the last word of the first line.  cob is a new term (added to my "dictionary") that I had never heard of so it was elusive.  The rest was easier. I even knew what a chinwag was!  LOL.DanKOn Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 11:35:28 PM UTC-5 timjz...@gmail.com wrote:Thanks BillKind Regards,Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & Specialty14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cellOn Wed, Dec 21, 2022 at 6:28 PM  wrote:Ok dan here are the words but I’m not sure it will help its all aussi slang lolLolol Bill  From: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Dan KragerSent: Thursday, 22 December 2022 3:30 AMTo: Legacy Ornamental Mills Subject: Re: a Christmas carol Love that 12 days of Aussie Christmas!  I listened to it several times with headphones and still didn't get all the words!  LOL!  Never heard it before.DanK  On Friday, December 16, 2022 at 10:53:21 PM UTC-5 timjz...@gmail.com wrote:yeah I'll be honest it was a scramble and like you guessed caught bits and pieces. more bits then pieces. lol Kind Regards, Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & Specialty14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330 320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cell On Fri, Dec 16, 2022 at 8:39 PM M.W.Foscue  wrote:Ha Ha, Tim! Do you mean to tell us that you understood anything in that song  - other that the obvious mentions of the number of days of Christmas?!?!?    As Bill will probably admit - It is my guess that the folks singing the song had already drained the kettle of Christmas Punch! - thus making them even more challenging to understand.  LoL! Cheers!Mac  -Original Message-From: Sent: Dec 16, 2022 6:54 AMTo: Subject: Re: a Christmas carol Wow I must say I've never heard it sung that way. lol love that Aussie slang lol.  Thanks for sharing Bill.Kind Regards,  Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & Specialty14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330 320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cell On Fri, Dec 16, 2022 at 5:38 AM  wrote:Ok guys here is a Christmas carol aussi style  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=biVZ8NB0jZE_channel=NancyKuhl for those who like Australian slang  Bill -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/000201d91142%24e59c4dc0%24b0d4e940%24%40mmnet.com.au. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/CAMBiJLGU716w%2Brz_fvs5x7WEx13UOF53khU-Bth7-1cUK9k%3DpA%40mail.gmail.com. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/40836aec-3f6b-629b-d997-ccec745c6480%40earthlink.net.-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/0ebb7798-49fb-47db-9367-4de00c6365adn%40googlegroups.com.



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Re: We Just got ours started and we are going to have videos

2022-12-17 Thread 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills

Me either!DensonSent from Denson's iPhoneOn Dec 17, 2022, at 9:25 PM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:I'll be honest I wouldn't know where to begin. Kind Regards,Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & Specialty14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cellOn Sat, Dec 17, 2022 at 8:34 PM  wrote:I’m looking forward to the video on that ribbon twist style walking stick I like that one Finally someone else going to do videos as well as me and curt  Bill From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Tim WoodardSent: Sunday, 18 December 2022 12:05 PMTo: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: We Just got ours started and we are going to have videos Thanks for the feedback check some of the sticks we have for sale  On Sat, Dec 17, 2022 at 12:41 AM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills  wrote:Hello Timothy Thank you for sharing your video.  Those are some nice looking walking sticks. I too have made a few over the years. (AS a matter of fact, I was just asked to make a walking stick for a present for a friend who needs one today, So you will be seeing one of mine in the next few weeks.) Hope to talk to you more soon. Have a good night. C.A.G. On Saturday, December 17, 2022 at 12:10:48 AM EST, Tim Woodard  wrote:   This is only a short, but we will be releasing videos on what we make with our Legacy ornamental mill for our small business on YouTube. Please check out our first video and subscribe for more updates on youtube. https://youtube.com/shorts/PSw26C8dc3Q  -- Timothy Lee WoodardE: twoodard...@gmail.comC: (757) 399-9778-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/CAC6wDbVyvA-o_KBfVnUih9-Et-bbamDg5QgvZKOWHyAiAe3tzA%40mail.gmail.com.-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/312580704.301394.1671255666558%40mail.yahoo.com. -- Timothy Lee WoodardE: twoodard...@gmail.comC: (757) 399-9778-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/CAC6wDbU_j-%3DnOcyqWAtN2f2aug_9ax9uAzPx3W5KOOSPRfaOYQ%40mail.gmail.com.



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Re: a Christmas carol

2022-12-17 Thread 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills

It was this morning but hoe down it was lol. Never heard those before. Very comical.DensonSent from Denson's iPhoneOn Dec 16, 2022, at 9:51 PM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:yeah no problem Bill. We all use some of our noted language lol. Kind Regards,Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & Specialty14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cellOn Fri, Dec 16, 2022 at 4:56 PM  wrote:Yes when I post here I try to not use any Australian words much so every one can understand or I don’tInsult anyone but occasionally the odd word or phrase slips past lol Bill From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Tim ZieglerSent: Saturday, 17 December 2022 8:13 AMTo: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: a Christmas carol yeah one has to listen a couple times then you start picking up on it. Kind Regards, Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & Specialty14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330 320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cell  On Fri, Dec 16, 2022 at 2:30 PM  wrote:I know most will not understand a word of it but the tune is cool too lol Bill From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Tim ZieglerSent: Friday, 16 December 2022 10:54 PMTo: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: a Christmas carol Wow I must say I've never heard it sung that way. lol love that Aussie slang lol. Thanks for sharing Bill.Kind Regards, Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & Specialty14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330 320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cell  On Fri, Dec 16, 2022 at 5:38 AM  wrote:Ok guys here is a Christmas carol aussi style  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=biVZ8NB0jZE_channel=NancyKuhl for those who like Australian slang  Bill-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/000201d91142%24e59c4dc0%24b0d4e940%24%40mmnet.com.au.-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/CAMBiJLGU716w%2Brz_fvs5x7WEx13UOF53khU-Bth7-1cUK9k%3DpA%40mail.gmail.com.-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/001601d9118d%242a2f3ca0%247e8db5e0%24%40mmnet.com.au.-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/CAMBiJLGw4AgohW9d%2Bmscth4wKJhUQDXF48PL7ciRxMyKQcV74w%40mail.gmail.com.



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Re: a Christmas carol

2022-12-16 Thread 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills

I’d love that Bill.densoning...@charter.netThanksDensonSent from Denson's iPhoneOn Dec 16, 2022, at 3:42 PM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:I'm guessing some of them are best left well enough alone Bill. lol. Kind Regards,Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & Specialty14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cellOn Fri, Dec 16, 2022 at 3:26 PM <bulke...@mmnet.com.au> wrote:Denson if you send me your email I can send you some funny aussi ChristmasSongs I cant post to the group if you want Bill  From: 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> Sent: Saturday, 17 December 2022 6:43 AMTo: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: a Christmas carol Do I remember, a few years ago, an Aussie song “Does your chewing gum loose it’s flavor on the bed post overnight”?Loved it Merry Christmas allSent from Denson's iPhoneOn Dec 16, 2022, at 6:21 AM, Tim Ziegler <timjzieg...@gmail.com> wrote:Wow I must say I've never heard it sung that way. lol love that Aussie slang lol. Thanks for sharing Bill.Kind Regards, Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & Specialty14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330 320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cell  On Fri, Dec 16, 2022 at 5:38 AM <bulke...@mmnet.com.au> wrote:Ok guys here is a Christmas carol aussi style  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=biVZ8NB0jZE_channel=NancyKuhl for those who like Australian slang  Bill-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/000201d91142%24e59c4dc0%24b0d4e940%24%40mmnet.com.au.-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/CAMBiJLGU716w%2Brz_fvs5x7WEx13UOF53khU-Bth7-1cUK9k%3DpA%40mail.gmail.com.-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/4A3DFF68-071F-4B47-8BFD-8F5BB7173426%40yahoo.com.



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Re: a Christmas carol

2022-12-16 Thread 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills

Do I remember, a few years ago, an Aussie song “Does your chewing gum loose it’s flavor on the bed post overnight”?Loved it Merry Christmas allSent from Denson's iPhoneOn Dec 16, 2022, at 6:21 AM, Tim Ziegler wrote:Wow I must say I've never heard it sung that way. lol love that Aussie slang lol. Thanks for sharing Bill.Kind Regards,Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & Specialty14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cellOn Fri, Dec 16, 2022 at 5:38 AM wrote:Ok guys here is a Christmas carol aussi style https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=biVZ8NB0jZE_channel=NancyKuhl for those who like Australian slang Bill

Look at this on eBay. Last one for tonight good night all

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Re: screw

2022-12-07 Thread 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills

Should have watched the video before posting. Video answered the questions thanks Bill.DensonSent from Denson's iPhoneOn Dec 7, 2022, at 1:59 PM, Denson Ingram  wrote:Yes Bill I would have some of the same detail questions about gear motor config. Great work on the screwDensonSent from Denson's iPhoneOn Dec 7, 2022, at 7:36 AM, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills  wrote:
Thank you.That's what I wanted to see.C.A.G.





On Wednesday, December 7, 2022 at 03:26:39 AM EST,   wrote:



Well the gears that go on the legacy have square holes  or rectangles so you know how that worksThe gears I mount to the motors I attach them to a round block which has a grub screw in it attaching it to the shaft see the pic . usually mine are thin only wide enough for the grub screw here is how I did a really bad onehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFwdSXKFAbI_channel=aussiman77181but if gear has just a round hole the principle is the same  Bill  From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills  Sent: Wednesday, 7 December 2022 4:12 PMTo: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: screw  Hello Bill  That is so Neat!    But I still have some questions on the process.  How do you mount the gears onto the motor?  I mean, the gear has either a square or a rectangle in the center of the gear. You motor most likely will have a round shaft.   What's the process?Make a round disk/washer the same size are your gear, and use that as your center guide? then drill and pin? Any details you can offer will help me .Thank you.  C.A.G.On Tuesday, December 6, 2022 at 11:34:23 AM EST, Tim Ziegler  wrote:     Awesome Bill. Thanks Kind Regards,  Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & Specialty14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330  320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cell    On Tue, Dec 6, 2022 at 8:36 AM  wrote:Best thing I ever did was put motors on my revo the one on the leadscrew was off a wood chuck lolI used most of its parts on it see here in an old video when I first did it and also when I tried out myFold away stops https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p2olosNXa80_channel=aussiman77181That was the start of me using the swing away motor method on everything so easy to go from Hand crank to motor driven in only seconds I do love my revo Bill From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Tim ZieglerSent: Tuesday, 6 December 2022 10:57 PMTo: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: screw I have one of those style on my WoodChuck hmmActually have both on there.Kind Regards, Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & Specialty14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330 320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cell  On Mon, Dec 5, 2022 at 10:02 PM  wrote:The pivoting spindle motor is just the best way to go I will never go back to chains and sprockets  Bill From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills  Sent: Tuesday, 6 December 2022 2:19 PMTo: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: screw I am impressed.  I will have to find out a way to make those. Far better then my chain and pulleys that Im using on my S200.Thanks for the INFO.  Defiantly a better mousetrap. ;-P C.A.G. On Monday, December 5, 2022 at 10:09:59 PM EST,  wrote:   Curt,Not so much made my own as reused and altered  some old 4xGears they are the same pitch as our large tooth gears which Made them perfect for my needs as motor gears. I do likeThis method because I can change out different gears giving the Motors a much larger range of speed than just zero to the motorsMaximum rpm, a small gear means very fast but less torqueWhere a large gear is much slower but a much higher torque So I got it all covered, like on the revo I can get away with a smaller motorBecause of this which is much less cumbersome than those bigBrutes on out larger model mills. You will notice the very small gearOn the mill when I am using fast speed on the spindle  when first milling The blank on the big screw. Bill From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills  Sent: Tuesday, 6 December 2022 12:00 PMTo: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: screw Wow! Bill. Did you make your own gears for the motors? I know that Tim has been looking at adding a motor to his REVO.You might like to start your own topic on this process.Awesome work on the screw.Keep up the good work.   C.A.G. On Monday, December 5, 2022 at 11:03:01 AM EST, Tim Ziegler  wrote:   Well the phone is the best and they make some really cool stands that are reasonable now too. I bought my daughter one she uses all the time. Maybe you should write a letter to Santa lol . Kind Regards, Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork &

Re: screw

2022-12-07 Thread 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills

Yes Bill I would have some of the same detail questions about gear motor config. Great work on the screwDensonSent from Denson's iPhoneOn Dec 7, 2022, at 7:36 AM, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills  wrote:
Thank you.That's what I wanted to see.C.A.G.





On Wednesday, December 7, 2022 at 03:26:39 AM EST,   wrote:



Well the gears that go on the legacy have square holes  or rectangles so you know how that worksThe gears I mount to the motors I attach them to a round block which has a grub screw in it attaching it to the shaft see the pic . usually mine are thin only wide enough for the grub screw here is how I did a really bad onehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFwdSXKFAbI_channel=aussiman77181but if gear has just a round hole the principle is the same  Bill  From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills  Sent: Wednesday, 7 December 2022 4:12 PMTo: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: screw  Hello Bill  That is so Neat!    But I still have some questions on the process.  How do you mount the gears onto the motor?  I mean, the gear has either a square or a rectangle in the center of the gear. You motor most likely will have a round shaft.   What's the process?Make a round disk/washer the same size are your gear, and use that as your center guide? then drill and pin? Any details you can offer will help me .Thank you.  C.A.G.On Tuesday, December 6, 2022 at 11:34:23 AM EST, Tim Ziegler  wrote:     Awesome Bill. Thanks Kind Regards,  Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & Specialty14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330  320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cell    On Tue, Dec 6, 2022 at 8:36 AM  wrote:Best thing I ever did was put motors on my revo the one on the leadscrew was off a wood chuck lolI used most of its parts on it see here in an old video when I first did it and also when I tried out myFold away stops https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p2olosNXa80_channel=aussiman77181That was the start of me using the swing away motor method on everything so easy to go from Hand crank to motor driven in only seconds I do love my revo Bill From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Tim ZieglerSent: Tuesday, 6 December 2022 10:57 PMTo: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: screw I have one of those style on my WoodChuck hmmActually have both on there.Kind Regards, Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & Specialty14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330 320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cell  On Mon, Dec 5, 2022 at 10:02 PM  wrote:The pivoting spindle motor is just the best way to go I will never go back to chains and sprockets  Bill From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills  Sent: Tuesday, 6 December 2022 2:19 PMTo: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: screw I am impressed.  I will have to find out a way to make those. Far better then my chain and pulleys that Im using on my S200.Thanks for the INFO.  Defiantly a better mousetrap. ;-P C.A.G. On Monday, December 5, 2022 at 10:09:59 PM EST,  wrote:   Curt,Not so much made my own as reused and altered  some old 4xGears they are the same pitch as our large tooth gears which Made them perfect for my needs as motor gears. I do likeThis method because I can change out different gears giving the Motors a much larger range of speed than just zero to the motorsMaximum rpm, a small gear means very fast but less torqueWhere a large gear is much slower but a much higher torque So I got it all covered, like on the revo I can get away with a smaller motorBecause of this which is much less cumbersome than those bigBrutes on out larger model mills. You will notice the very small gearOn the mill when I am using fast speed on the spindle  when first milling The blank on the big screw. Bill From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills  Sent: Tuesday, 6 December 2022 12:00 PMTo: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: screw Wow! Bill. Did you make your own gears for the motors? I know that Tim has been looking at adding a motor to his REVO.You might like to start your own topic on this process.Awesome work on the screw.Keep up the good work.   C.A.G. On Monday, December 5, 2022 at 11:03:01 AM EST, Tim Ziegler  wrote:   Well the phone is the best and they make some really cool stands that are reasonable now too. I bought my daughter one she uses all the time. Maybe you should write a letter to Santa lol . Kind Regards, Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & Specialty14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330 320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cell  On Mon, Dec 5, 2022 at 9:52 AM  wrote:Yea what I really need is a camera

Re: finding router bits

2022-11-24 Thread 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills

Happy Thanksgiving to all the LOM guys and gals. May all your Turkey turnings turn out terrific!!DensonSent from Denson's iPhoneOn Nov 23, 2022, at 8:58 AM, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills  wrote:
Hello, and Good morning everyone.These drill bits can be used in and on our routers, prices are not cheap, but the quality is very nice. https://www.ornamentaltools.com/tools NOTE: the fly cutters we can not use on our Legacy,(at least not with out having to make an adaptor) but the drill profiles we can use.(I personally like the pearling bits, like Magnates button bits.)C.A.G.





On Monday, November 21, 2022 at 09:52:43 PM EST, Tim Ziegler  wrote:



yeah might be safer lol. especially bare foot. lol.Kind Regards,Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & Specialty14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cellOn Mon, Nov 21, 2022 at 6:52 PM  wrote:I think I would rather grind up an old spade drill bit Bill From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of bulke...@mmnet.com.auSent: Monday, 21 November 2022 10:07 PMTo: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.comSubject: RE: finding router bits I sharpen most of my router bits by hand with a diamond card that is enough for me the only ones mostly a can’t doAre spiral bits Bill From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills  Sent: Monday, 21 November 2022 4:56 PMTo: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: finding router bits They don't look to hard to make. I wonder?  Lots of  possibilities. C.A.G.  On Monday, November 21, 2022 at 12:50:47 AM EST,  wrote:   Too much money for me im afraid lol Bill From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Tim ZieglerSent: Monday, 21 November 2022 2:42 PMTo: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: finding router bits Yes sir thats the one. You will need to make a special router bit holder to grind them. Mounts direct to the shaft then has a space for the bit. Kind Regards, Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & Specialty14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330 320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cell  On Sun, Nov 20, 2022 at 9:34 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills  wrote:This one?https://www.vieltools.com/produit/affuteuse-de-profil-d-outils-viel-539  C.A.G. On Sunday, November 20, 2022 at 10:12:41 PM EST, Tim Ziegler  wrote:   I do know Magnate will custom make your bits and has so many different bits in stock I don't thinkyou would ever run out of patterns. I used to grind lots of custom Router bits at WoodCraft. We used a template just like when we ground knives for other moulder heads. And as we've been on this subject before, take a look at Veil's profile grinder. Little time and patience you can go a long way.  https://www.vieltools.com/ Kind Regards, Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & Specialty14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330 320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cell  On Sun, Nov 20, 2022 at 8:55 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills  wrote:Hello Everyone. Its been a little quite over the last few days.I am in the middle of finishing a home project at this time. So I've not been posting as much as I normally do. I was talking to a friend, who stated that he thought that the router was the most under used tool in most shops, The potential of router is... unlimited! Like Legacy's original sales quote.  "Legacy, Where the only limitation is your emanation".  So lets combine these two idea? Router bit.  Where and how do you find them? Specialty bits are pricy! Many people do not have the tools to make there own bits.Yes, Magnate has a very nice range of bits made for the Legacy, and I do recommend them to everyone.Matthias Wandel of wooden gears. made this video a few years back.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QYHGEqxW6ws=36sAnd in truth I have also done this to more then a few bits.Mike Pung. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHgzEKnON-o  made his own bit in this video.And I have found on Amazon https://www.amazon.com/SHINA-Hardness-Tungsten-Spherical-Woodworking/dp/B01CRXZHJ6/ref=sr_1_4?crid=1N3KHJ5W8SH2L=buddha+bead+carbide+cutters=1668999044=budda+bead+carbide+cutters%2Caps%2C107=8-4 cutter that will make beading cuts very nicely on the Legacy. (with only slight modifications,) Dose anyone have any other ideas on this topic? Its something to think about.  If you have any ideas, please chime on in? C.A.G.-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

Re: Delrin find

2022-11-19 Thread 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills

I’ve got plenty of corian so might try one anyway.DensonSent from Denson's iPhoneOn Nov 19, 2022, at 3:21 PM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:Hey Bill, Yup all we can do is try. As you know I bought Delrin too. but am still trying other material. Yes good advice keep clean and well lubed with  Dyna Glide. And when tapping be extra cautious for sure. Kind Regards,Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & Specialty14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cellOn Sat, Nov 19, 2022 at 2:46 PM <bulke...@mmnet.com.au> wrote:Back in the early days I believe legacy did make a hollow spiral out of Corian but it had to be laminated to get the sizeBut there has never been any mention of any other use. But anything is possible however too hard a material might make it brittle so it might wear really well but breakOr chip during tapping not to mention that 5/8x4 tap will snap if you get too aggressive with it during tapping cutting harderMaterials than plastic be very very gentle when tapping guys even in delrin the slightest resistance back off clean and go againYou might only get like a 1/8 of a turn in between each cleaning breaking taps is real easy if you’re not carful. And I would not like a material that wears the leadscrew I would much rather replace a split nut than a leadscrew.I will always only use Delrin but I would love to see how other materials go.And remember a well looked after mill cleaned and dry lubed after every job and that slides easy and a dyna glide lubricated leadscrew that turns easy  you willget years out of a split nut before it needs replacing same for the top hats too. Bill  From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Tim ZieglerSent: Sunday, 20 November 2022 6:46 AMTo: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: Delrin find For sure Bill, but all a person can do is try. Corian was not well known when Legacy started using the Delrin product either.Kind Regards, Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & Specialty14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330 320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cell  On Sat, Nov 19, 2022 at 1:20 PM <bulke...@mmnet.com.au> wrote:In my opinion I would say no but I’m no expert either  , all I would say is there is a reason legacyUsed Delrin because it’s the best plastic for threads and bearings without wet lubrication Same reason the leadscrew is 4 threads per inch not 8 a coarser thread is a stronger threadWhen used with a plastic split nut.But this is just my opinion. Bill From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Tim ZieglerSent: Sunday, 20 November 2022 4:45 AMTo: LOM Group <legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>Subject: Re: Delrin find Hey Denson, To be honest I'm not totally sure of the composition of Corian. How does it drill? Can you do a wear test? Try threading etc?Let me know what you try.  Kind regards TimOn Sat, Nov 19, 2022, 10:43 AM 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:Good buy Tim. I ordered a 5/8”x4 RH die from eBay. Should be here soon.I have a question. I have a piece of corian  counter top that I have used for a project here and there. Would a laminated piece of that work as a split nut? Just curious.ThanksDensonSent from Denson's iPhone On Nov 18, 2022, at 10:00 PM, Tim Ziegler <timjzieg...@gmail.com> wrote:For sure Bill, and the price was reasonable too I thought. Kind Regards, Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & Specialty14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330 320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cell  On Fri, Nov 18, 2022 at 9:36 PM <bulke...@mmnet.com.au> wrote:Well done Tim go to it you will soon have more split nutsThan in a bag of peanuts lol Bill From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of timjz...@gmail.comSent: Saturday, 19 November 2022 2:01 PMTo: Legacy Ornamental Mills <legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>Subject: Delrin find Good evening,  Found a good batch of Delrin this last week on EBay. 3 nice large pieces. 1.875 thick X 5 inches X 6 inches. Had been pre-machine so each piece has a couple holes in butfor $60.00 I can work around a couple holes. Now for moresplit nuts. I believe he had more.  Kind regards, Tim J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & SpecialtyZiegler Laser Worx14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330 320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cell-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/b2eab284-72c4-47f9-a824-6221ab1b8b27n%40googlegroups.com.-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "L

Re: Delrin find

2022-11-19 Thread 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills

I think you are right Bill after looking at the specs on corian I agree.ThanksDensonSent from Denson's iPhoneOn Nov 19, 2022, at 1:46 PM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:For sure Bill, but all a person can do is try. Corian was not well known when Legacy started using the Delrin product either.Kind Regards,Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & Specialty14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cellOn Sat, Nov 19, 2022 at 1:20 PM <bulke...@mmnet.com.au> wrote:In my opinion I would say no but I’m no expert either  , all I would say is there is a reason legacyUsed Delrin because it’s the best plastic for threads and bearings without wet lubrication Same reason the leadscrew is 4 threads per inch not 8 a coarser thread is a stronger threadWhen used with a plastic split nut.But this is just my opinion. Bill From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Tim ZieglerSent: Sunday, 20 November 2022 4:45 AMTo: LOM Group <legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>Subject: Re: Delrin find Hey Denson, To be honest I'm not totally sure of the composition of Corian. How does it drill? Can you do a wear test? Try threading etc?Let me know what you try.  Kind regards TimOn Sat, Nov 19, 2022, 10:43 AM 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:Good buy Tim. I ordered a 5/8”x4 RH die from eBay. Should be here soon.I have a question. I have a piece of corian  counter top that I have used for a project here and there. Would a laminated piece of that work as a split nut? Just curious.ThanksDensonSent from Denson's iPhoneOn Nov 18, 2022, at 10:00 PM, Tim Ziegler <timjzieg...@gmail.com> wrote:For sure Bill, and the price was reasonable too I thought. Kind Regards, Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & Specialty14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330 320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cell  On Fri, Nov 18, 2022 at 9:36 PM <bulke...@mmnet.com.au> wrote:Well done Tim go to it you will soon have more split nutsThan in a bag of peanuts lol Bill From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of timjz...@gmail.comSent: Saturday, 19 November 2022 2:01 PMTo: Legacy Ornamental Mills <legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>Subject: Delrin find Good evening,  Found a good batch of Delrin this last week on EBay. 3 nice large pieces. 1.875 thick X 5 inches X 6 inches. Had been pre-machine so each piece has a couple holes in butfor $60.00 I can work around a couple holes. Now for moresplit nuts. I believe he had more.  Kind regards, Tim J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & SpecialtyZiegler Laser Worx14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330 320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cell-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/b2eab284-72c4-47f9-a824-6221ab1b8b27n%40googlegroups.com.-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/000c01d8fbc8%240a72db40%241f5891c0%24%40mmnet.com.au.-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/CAMBiJLELmig%2B-WCU%3DPUM_K6iYfUA5boMsosgYFdfGUsXMODTCw%40mail.gmail.com.-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/052B736C-5B8D-4F2C-A1B6-2631A91BE774%40yahoo.com.-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/CAMBiJLE89EKyDgNwdmJmQPWDOfzEqfOXKPbWz%3D8-BGdSaKXi4Q%40mail.gmail.com.



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Re: Delrin find

2022-11-19 Thread 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills

Drills fine. I’ll look up the specs on each and see.ThanksDensonSent from Denson's iPhoneOn Nov 19, 2022, at 11:44 AM, Tim Ziegler wrote:Hey Denson,To be honest I'm not totally sure of the composition of Corian. How does it drill? Can you do a wear test? Try threading etc?Let me know what you try. Kind regardsTimOn Sat, Nov 19, 2022, 10:43 AM 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:Good buy Tim. I ordered a 5/8”x4 RH die from eBay. Should be here soon.I have a question. I have a piece of corian counter top that I have used for a project here and there. Would a laminated piece of that work as a split nut? Just curious.ThanksDensonSent from Denson's iPhoneOn Nov 18, 2022, at 10:00 PM, Tim Ziegler <timjzieg...@gmail.com> wrote:For sure Bill, and the price was reasonable too I thought. Kind Regards,Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & Specialty14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cellOn Fri, Nov 18, 2022 at 9:36 PM <bulke...@mmnet.com.au> wrote:Well done Tim go to it you will soon have more split nutsThan in a bag of peanuts lol Bill From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of timjz...@gmail.comSent: Saturday, 19 November 2022 2:01 PMTo: Legacy Ornamental Mills <legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>Subject: Delrin find Good evening, Found a good batch of Delrin this last week on EBay. 3 nice large pieces. 1.875 thick X 5 inches X 6 inches. Had been pre-machine so each piece has a couple holes in butfor $60.00 I can work around a couple holes. Now for moresplit nuts. I believe he had more. Kind regards, Tim J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & SpecialtyZiegler Laser Worx14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330 320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cell-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/b2eab284-72c4-47f9-a824-6221ab1b8b27n%40googlegroups.com.

Re: Delrin find

2022-11-19 Thread 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills

Good buy Tim. I ordered a 5/8”x4 RH die from eBay. Should be here soon.I have a question. I have a piece of corian counter top that I have used for a project here and there. Would a laminated piece of that work as a split nut? Just curious.ThanksDensonSent from Denson's iPhoneOn Nov 18, 2022, at 10:00 PM, Tim Ziegler wrote:For sure Bill, and the price was reasonable too I thought. Kind Regards,Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & Specialty14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cellOn Fri, Nov 18, 2022 at 9:36 PM wrote:Well done Tim go to it you will soon have more split nutsThan in a bag of peanuts lol Bill From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of timjz...@gmail.comSent: Saturday, 19 November 2022 2:01 PMTo: Legacy Ornamental Mills Subject: Delrin find Good evening, Found a good batch of Delrin this last week on EBay. 3 nice large pieces. 1.875 thick X 5 inches X 6 inches. Had been pre-machine so each piece has a couple holes in butfor $60.00 I can work around a couple holes. Now for moresplit nuts. I believe he had more. Kind regards, Tim J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & SpecialtyZiegler Laser Worx14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330 320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cell-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/b2eab284-72c4-47f9-a824-6221ab1b8b27n%40googlegroups.com.

Re: Remembrance Day

2022-11-10 Thread 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills

Thanks Bill and Tim from another Vet.
Denson

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> On Nov 10, 2022, at 6:14 PM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:
> 
> 
> Absolutely Rick thanks for adding to that. We can not thank them enough. 
> Kind Regards,
> 
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
> 
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
> 
> 
>> On Thu, Nov 10, 2022 at 5:05 PM Rick Hutley  wrote:
>> Same here Bill. May we all remember - and at the very least, spare 1 min of 
>> our day for silent contemplation and gratitude 
>> 
>> Rick
>> 
 On Nov 10, 2022, at 17:14, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:
 
>>> 
>>> Well in Australia its that time of the year again Remembrance Day 11/11/22
>>> 
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2kX_3y3u5Uo=18s_channel=TerryKelly
>>> 
>>> and sadly every year here more and more people don’t take a minuet to 
>>> remember
>>> 
>>> our fallen Soldiers. So sad, I’m not one of them lest we forget.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> And I have sort of adopted this song to help us always remember each year
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Bill
>>> 
>>>  
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Re: Evolution

2022-11-07 Thread 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills

Sorry for the late response Tim. That is correct thank you.
Denson

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> On Nov 7, 2022, at 9:24 PM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:
> 
> 
> just had to click the link and scroll down right Denson?
> 
> Kind Regards,
> 
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
> 
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
> 
> 
>> On Mon, Nov 7, 2022 at 5:52 PM 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
>>  wrote:
>> I found them Bill.
>> Thanks
>> Denson
>> 
>> Sent from Denson's iPhone
>> 
>>>> On Nov 7, 2022, at 5:00 PM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> Pm me Denson
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> And I will help you
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Bill
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> From: 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
>>>  
>>> Sent: Tuesday, 8 November 2022 3:06 AM
>>> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Evolution
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Somewhere along the way I missed the pics of the evolution. Can someone 
>>> redirect me to them.
>>> 
>>> Thanks
>>> 
>>> Denson
>>> 
>>> Sent from Denson's iPhone
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Nov 5, 2022, at 9:18 AM, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Good morning everyone.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Bill If Legacy made the Evolution mill the same size as my 1000ex. I would 
>>> have bought one. but sadly it only came in one size. (Andy would NOT work 
>>> with me at that time.)
>>> 
>>> This is the main reason why I built my own Legacy 2020 . using linear rail 
>>> and some old Shop Smith parts.  I am pretty happy with what I had made, But 
>>> buying a Evolution Mill would have been an easer way to go. IF? ;-)
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> poppy.   I cant wait to see your machine. Please send some photo's soon? ;-)
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> C.A.G.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> On Saturday, November 5, 2022 at 02:56:58 AM EDT,  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> I’m fairly sure your right curt it looked plastic in the video when I 
>>> watched it before it was taken down
>>> 
>>> I would love to see a video of the evolution in action milling something 
>>> too I almost bought one but went
>>> 
>>> With a revo instead
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Bill
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
>>>  
>>> Sent: Saturday, 5 November 2022 3:35 PM
>>> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Evolution
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> I would love to see what you have.  THE Evolution mill is one of Legacy's 
>>> best. 
>>> 
>>> But sadly very few people ever saw it. Before Legacy, ("Threw out the baby 
>>> out with the bath water", So to speak.) and Ended the Manual line of there 
>>> equipment.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> ON Posting photos to the group is easy as long as you reduce the pix. size. 
>>> You can now send photos though your E-mail and the web site. as an 
>>> attachment, 2 meg or under. 
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Quick question on your mill.  
>>> 
>>> Is your banjo (gear linkage) plastic  or metal? 
>>> 
>>> I was told that Legacy made the Evolution linkage out of plastic, and that 
>>> was one of the big problem with this mill, Is this true? 
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> If you do stop on bye the Legacy headquarters, please let us know? Legacy's 
>>> service with us has been lacking. Perhaps you will be able to pick up 
>>> things that we cant get?
>>> 
>>> You never know?
>>> 
>>> Have a good night.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> C.A.G.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> On Saturday, November 5, 2022 at 12:16:42 AM EDT, poppy...@gmail.com 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Yes, I own one and will send photos once once I figure out how to post 
>>> them.  Pl

Re: STOP THE PRESS, NEW SPLIT NUT

2022-11-07 Thread 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills

Thanks Bill
Right hand it is.
Denson

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> On Nov 7, 2022, at 5:12 PM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:
> 
> 
> I’m 99 percent sure legacy only ever used right hand acme threaded rod for 
> their leadscrews
>  
> Bill
>  
> From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
>  On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
> Sent: Tuesday, 8 November 2022 3:28 AM
> To: LOM Group 
> Subject: Re: STOP THE PRESS, NEW SPLIT NUT
>  
> So I just cked my 1200 and when rotation of crank is Clock wise my carriage 
> comes towards me. Traveling right. 
> Hope that helps. I bought the right hand tap and works great. 
>  
> Tim
>  
> On Mon, Nov 7, 2022, 9:47 AM 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi Tim great job. I found 5/8x4 tpi offered in both left hand and right hand. 
> Would there be a benefit of having both?
> Denson
> Sent from Denson's iPhone
> 
> 
> On Nov 7, 2022, at 6:19 AM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:
> 
> 
> you bet, I added a bit after the fact too.
> 
> Kind Regards,
>  
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>  
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
>  
>  
> On Mon, Nov 7, 2022 at 6:03 AM Rick Hutley  wrote:
> Many thanks
> 
> 
> On Nov 7, 2022, at 06:55, Tim Ziegler  wrote:
> 
> 
> 5/8 X 4 TPI
> 
> Kind Regards,
>  
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>  
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
>  
>  
> On Mon, Nov 7, 2022 at 5:23 AM Rick Hutley  wrote:
>  
> Excellent work!  I can find ACME taps for sale but what size is needed?
>  
> Thanks
> Rick
> 
> 
> On Nov 6, 2022, at 21:56, timjz...@gmail.com  wrote:
> 
> Well I finally took the time to make a couple of split nuts from a material 
> referred to as HDPE, a self healing white plastic that actually drills and 
> taps very nicely. 
> I took all my measurements from an other split nut. and cut to a size the 
> block I'd be using. I marked out and drilled the piece with a 11 mm Brad point
> bit. Then I put in vise and proceeded to tap the ACME thread. Going back and 
> forth continually cleaning it out. 
> Once I completed that I cut the block in 2 pieces on the scroll saw. 
> I then marked the hole for the thumb screw and drilled with a 6.5 mm drill 
> bit.
> Tapping then with a 5/16 course thread tap. 
> During the drilling process I used the Rocker pen vise. 
> To trim the Blocks to fit I used the Rockler Small Parts Jig to hold the 
> block,
> and save the fingers. 
> Overall I am super happy I took the time to make some and they fit perfect.
> there is NO play in that carriage now. Not sure how long they will last, but 
> may
> make some with Delrin at some point too. 
> See photos attached.
>  
> Kind regards,
>  
> Tim J Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> Ziegler Laser Worx
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>  
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
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Re: Evolution

2022-11-07 Thread 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills

I found them Bill.
Thanks
Denson

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> On Nov 7, 2022, at 5:00 PM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:
> 
> 
> Pm me Denson
>  
> And I will help you
>  
> Bill
>  
> From: 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
>  
> Sent: Tuesday, 8 November 2022 3:06 AM
> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Evolution
>  
> Somewhere along the way I missed the pics of the evolution. Can someone 
> redirect me to them.
> Thanks
> Denson
> 
> Sent from Denson's iPhone
> 
> 
> On Nov 5, 2022, at 9:18 AM, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Good morning everyone.
>  
> Bill If Legacy made the Evolution mill the same size as my 1000ex. I would 
> have bought one. but sadly it only came in one size. (Andy would NOT work 
> with me at that time.)
> This is the main reason why I built my own Legacy 2020 . using linear rail 
> and some old Shop Smith parts.  I am pretty happy with what I had made, But 
> buying a Evolution Mill would have been an easer way to go. IF? ;-)
>  
> poppy.   I cant wait to see your machine. Please send some photo's soon? ;-)
>  
> C.A.G.
>  
> On Saturday, November 5, 2022 at 02:56:58 AM EDT,  
> wrote:
>  
>  
> I’m fairly sure your right curt it looked plastic in the video when I watched 
> it before it was taken down
> 
> I would love to see a video of the evolution in action milling something too 
> I almost bought one but went
> 
> With a revo instead
> 
>  
> 
> Bill
> 
>  
> 
> From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
>  
> Sent: Saturday, 5 November 2022 3:35 PM
> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Evolution
> 
>  
> 
> I would love to see what you have.  THE Evolution mill is one of Legacy's 
> best. 
> 
> But sadly very few people ever saw it. Before Legacy, ("Threw out the baby 
> out with the bath water", So to speak.) and Ended the Manual line of there 
> equipment.
> 
>  
> 
> ON Posting photos to the group is easy as long as you reduce the pix. size. 
> You can now send photos though your E-mail and the web site. as an 
> attachment, 2 meg or under. 
> 
>  
> 
> Quick question on your mill.  
> 
> Is your banjo (gear linkage) plastic  or metal? 
> 
> I was told that Legacy made the Evolution linkage out of plastic, and that 
> was one of the big problem with this mill, Is this true? 
> 
>  
> 
> If you do stop on bye the Legacy headquarters, please let us know? Legacy's 
> service with us has been lacking. Perhaps you will be able to pick up things 
> that we cant get?
> 
> You never know?
> 
> Have a good night.
> 
>  
> 
> C.A.G.
> 
>  
> 
> On Saturday, November 5, 2022 at 12:16:42 AM EDT, poppy...@gmail.com 
>  wrote:
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> 
> Yes, I own one and will send photos once once I figure out how to post them.  
> Plus, I live in the same town as Legacy Ornamental Mills plant.  I need to 
> give them a visit.  I love my Evolution for making legs for my furniture 
> building, period furniture, Federal/ Sheraton
> On Friday, November 4, 2022 at 7:03:20 AM UTC-6 Curt George wrote:
> Hello James.
> I know Bill asked, but If I read your question about the Evolution,  DO you 
> own one?
> I have not seen a Evolution except for on the video Tracy made  (now its been 
> removed.)
> Can you post to the group some Photo's of your machine? and any thought about 
> your mill.
> the Evolution looks like a very nice machine, I for one would like to know 
> more about it.
>  
> Thank you in advance.
> looking forward on seeing more info. on this mill form you.
>  
> C.A.G.
> 
> On Monday, October 31, 2022 at 9:26:31 AM UTC-4 jamesh...@gmail.com wrote:
> Does anyone have a PDF of taper chart for the Evolution Legacy that will tell 
> me the distance I need to elevate the platform to achieve a given taper over 
> a given length of the spindle? Send to jamesh...@gmail.com. Thanks 
> 
> Sent from my iPad
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Re: Name question

2022-11-07 Thread 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills

Good observation Mike.
Thanks lol
Denson

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> On Nov 7, 2022, at 10:45 AM, Okla Mike (Liltwisted)  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> I'm sure the act of flying is a pretty scary endeavor to pigs as well.  So I 
> am quite sure the pucker factor in flight will be sufficient to keep us 
> unfertilized on the ground. 
> 
> On 11/7/2022 9:52 AM, 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills wrote:
>> I guess not a good idea to be under a flock when flying overhead?
>> Denson
>> 
>> Sent from Denson's iPhone
>> 
>>> On Nov 7, 2022, at 6:25 AM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Yeah and you should hear the commotion when a flock fly's over and you have 
>>> tall trees. They have a hard
>>> time perching so usually they ground land and come to a rolling stop about 
>>> 50 yards from where they touch (crash)
>>> down. that actually helps keep the meat tender too.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Kind Regards,
>>> 
>>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>>> 14171 160th Ave.
>>> Foreston MN 56330
>>> 
>>> 320-294-5798 shop
>>> 320-630-2243 cell
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Sun, Nov 6, 2022 at 11:37 PM M.W.Foscue  wrote:
>>>> Bill,
>>>> In case you don't know:  The University of South Carolina spent megabuck$ 
>>>> on genetic research on pigs; necessary because the S. Carolina's State 
>>>> Protein is pork.  They LOVE their slow-cooked/smoked southen-style BBQ.  
>>>> The realized that pigs grow faster and remain fairly lean when they live 
>>>> in more mild temps.  To get the most growth from a pig in shortest time, 
>>>> they wee able to produce a bloodline that could fly.  The idea being they 
>>>> could live up north in the US Summer and migrate back to S. Carolina over 
>>>> the winter.
>>>> So far, it has been going very well.
>>>> What you saw in the photo is one of the early youth that is practicing 
>>>> flight - and will migrate south in a few days to the Anderson, SC area.
>>>> Mac
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: 
>>>> Sent: Nov 6, 2022 10:14 PM
>>>> To: 
>>>> Subject: Re: Name question
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>> Here you are Bill
>>>> Kind Regards,
>>>>  
>>>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>>>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>>>> 14171 160th Ave.
>>>> Foreston MN 56330
>>>>  
>>>> 320-294-5798 shop
>>>> 320-630-2243 cell
>>>> 
>>>> On Sun, Nov 6, 2022 at 9:10 PM  wrote:
>>>>> I have never seen a flying pig lol
>>>>> 
>>>>>  
>>>>> 
>>>>> Bill
>>>>> 
>>>>>  
>>>>> 
>>>>> From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
>>>>>  
>>>>> Sent: Monday, 7 November 2022 1:31 PM
>>>>> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
>>>>> Subject: Re: Name question
>>>>> 
>>>>>  
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hello Mac.
>>>>> 
>>>>>  
>>>>> 
>>>>> YES! and No.
>>>>> 
>>>>>  
>>>>> 
>>>>> Yes Andy did promise Tim a mill for all the reasons you stated.  
>>>>> 
>>>>>  
>>>>> 
>>>>> And No. I have no idea when it will get to him?  (I'm sure it was an 
>>>>> Honest mistake, and it will arrive any day...) ;-p
>>>>> 
>>>>>  
>>>>> 
>>>>> C.A.G.
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Sunday, November 6, 2022 at 09:18:38 PM EST, M.W.Foscue 
>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>  
>>>>> 
>>>>>  
>>>>> 
>>>>> At the risk of digging up old bones - isn't that the Mill that Legacy was 
>>>>> going to send Tim K. years ago - in appreciation for all that he had done 
>>>>> for the Legacy Mill community?
>>>>> Mac
>>>>> -Original Message-
>>>>> From: 
>>>>> Sent: Nov 6, 2022 3:43 PM
>>>>> To: 
>>>>> Subject: RE: Name question
>>>>> 
>>>>>  
>>>>> This is the evolution mill
>>>>> 
>>>>> Bill
>>>>> 
>>>

Re: Evolution

2022-11-07 Thread 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills

Somewhere along the way I missed the pics of the evolution. Can someone 
redirect me to them.
Thanks
Denson

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> On Nov 5, 2022, at 9:18 AM, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Good morning everyone.
> 
> Bill If Legacy made the Evolution mill the same size as my 1000ex. I would 
> have bought one. but sadly it only came in one size. (Andy would NOT work 
> with me at that time.)
> This is the main reason why I built my own Legacy 2020 . using linear rail 
> and some old Shop Smith parts.  I am pretty happy with what I had made, But 
> buying a Evolution Mill would have been an easer way to go. IF? ;-)
> 
> poppy.   I cant wait to see your machine. Please send some photo's soon? ;-)
> 
> C.A.G.
> 
> On Saturday, November 5, 2022 at 02:56:58 AM EDT,  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> I’m fairly sure your right curt it looked plastic in the video when I watched 
> it before it was taken down
> I would love to see a video of the evolution in action milling something too 
> I almost bought one but went
> With a revo instead
>  
> Bill
>  
> From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
>  
> Sent: Saturday, 5 November 2022 3:35 PM
> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Evolution
>  
> I would love to see what you have.  THE Evolution mill is one of Legacy's 
> best. 
> But sadly very few people ever saw it. Before Legacy, ("Threw out the baby 
> out with the bath water", So to speak.) and Ended the Manual line of there 
> equipment.
>  
> ON Posting photos to the group is easy as long as you reduce the pix. size. 
> You can now send photos though your E-mail and the web site. as an 
> attachment, 2 meg or under. 
>  
> Quick question on your mill.  
> Is your banjo (gear linkage) plastic  or metal? 
> I was told that Legacy made the Evolution linkage out of plastic, and that 
> was one of the big problem with this mill, Is this true? 
>  
> If you do stop on bye the Legacy headquarters, please let us know? Legacy's 
> service with us has been lacking. Perhaps you will be able to pick up things 
> that we cant get?
> You never know?
> Have a good night.
>  
> C.A.G.
>  
> On Saturday, November 5, 2022 at 12:16:42 AM EDT, poppy...@gmail.com 
>  wrote:
>  
>  
> 
> Yes, I own one and will send photos once once I figure out how to post them.  
> Plus, I live in the same town as Legacy Ornamental Mills plant.  I need to 
> give them a visit.  I love my Evolution for making legs for my furniture 
> building, period furniture, Federal/ Sheraton
> On Friday, November 4, 2022 at 7:03:20 AM UTC-6 Curt George wrote:
> Hello James.
> I know Bill asked, but If I read your question about the Evolution,  DO you 
> own one?
> I have not seen a Evolution except for on the video Tracy made  (now its been 
> removed.)
> Can you post to the group some Photo's of your machine? and any thought about 
> your mill.
> the Evolution looks like a very nice machine, I for one would like to know 
> more about it.
>  
> Thank you in advance.
> looking forward on seeing more info. on this mill form you.
>  
> C.A.G.
> 
> On Monday, October 31, 2022 at 9:26:31 AM UTC-4 jamesh...@gmail.com wrote:
> Does anyone have a PDF of taper chart for the Evolution Legacy that will tell 
> me the distance I need to elevate the platform to achieve a given taper over 
> a given length of the spindle? Send to jamesh...@gmail.com. Thanks 
> 
> Sent from my iPad
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Re: Name question

2022-11-07 Thread 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills

I guess not a good idea to be under a flock when flying overhead?
Denson

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> On Nov 7, 2022, at 6:25 AM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:
> 
> 
> Yeah and you should hear the commotion when a flock fly's over and you have 
> tall trees. They have a hard
> time perching so usually they ground land and come to a rolling stop about 50 
> yards from where they touch (crash)
> down. that actually helps keep the meat tender too.
> 
> 
> Kind Regards,
> 
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
> 
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
> 
> 
>> On Sun, Nov 6, 2022 at 11:37 PM M.W.Foscue  wrote:
>> Bill,
>> In case you don't know:  The University of South Carolina spent megabuck$ on 
>> genetic research on pigs; necessary because the S. Carolina's State Protein 
>> is pork.  They LOVE their slow-cooked/smoked southen-style BBQ.  The 
>> realized that pigs grow faster and remain fairly lean when they live in more 
>> mild temps.  To get the most growth from a pig in shortest time, they wee 
>> able to produce a bloodline that could fly.  The idea being they could live 
>> up north in the US Summer and migrate back to S. Carolina over the winter.
>> So far, it has been going very well.
>> What you saw in the photo is one of the early youth that is practicing 
>> flight - and will migrate south in a few days to the Anderson, SC area.
>> Mac
>> -Original Message-
>> From: 
>> Sent: Nov 6, 2022 10:14 PM
>> To: 
>> Subject: Re: Name question
>> 
>>  
>> Here you are Bill
>> Kind Regards,
>>  
>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>> 14171 160th Ave.
>> Foreston MN 56330
>>  
>> 320-294-5798 shop
>> 320-630-2243 cell
>> 
>>> On Sun, Nov 6, 2022 at 9:10 PM  wrote:
>>> I have never seen a flying pig lol
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Bill
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
>>>  
>>> Sent: Monday, 7 November 2022 1:31 PM
>>> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Name question
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Hello Mac.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> YES! and No.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Yes Andy did promise Tim a mill for all the reasons you stated.  
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> And No. I have no idea when it will get to him?  (I'm sure it was an Honest 
>>> mistake, and it will arrive any day...) ;-p
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> C.A.G.
>>> 
>>> On Sunday, November 6, 2022 at 09:18:38 PM EST, M.W.Foscue 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> At the risk of digging up old bones - isn't that the Mill that Legacy was 
>>> going to send Tim K. years ago - in appreciation for all that he had done 
>>> for the Legacy Mill community?
>>> Mac
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: 
>>> Sent: Nov 6, 2022 3:43 PM
>>> To: 
>>> Subject: RE: Name question
>>> 
>>>  
>>> This is the evolution mill
>>> 
>>> Bill
>>> 
>>> From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
>>>  On Behalf Of Dan Krager
>>> Sent: Monday, 7 November 2022 2:31 AM
>>> To: Legacy Ornamental Mills 
>>> Subject: Name question
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> I see several messages about an "Evolution" Legacy Mill.  I own what the 
>>> manual calls a "REVO" legacy mill, which the fine print spells out as short 
>>> for "...a revolutionary new design."  
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> So am I missing something here?
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> DanK
>>> 
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Re: Evolution

2022-10-31 Thread 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills

Hey Bill I used that method on a 900 yesterday because the chart’s method and 
dimensions didn’t work out right. This method does.
Thanks
Denson

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> On Oct 31, 2022, at 10:58 AM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:
> 
> There is a way to set a taper without a chart you mount a scrap peace of 
> timber in the mill and turn 2 diameters on it
> Each at the distance apart that you want the length of your taper to be the 
> one at the headstock end you mill to the large dia you want
> your taper to be and the other end you mill to the small dia you want the 
> taper to be put a mark on each so the 2 lines are the exact
> Distance you want the length of the taper to be then lift the tailstock end 
> till they are both the same distance down lay a strait edge across the 
> Liner rails and measure down with a ruler when the 2 are the same distance 
> your taper will be set.
> 
> Bill
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
>  On Behalf Of bulke...@mmnet.com.au
> Sent: Tuesday, 1 November 2022 2:30 AM
> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Evolution
> 
> Do you have a Evolution mill ? I didn’t think anyone had one very rear mill I 
> doubt if you will get a taper chart for it but there are taper charts Here 
> for other model mills 
> https://lwmcnc.com/cnc-systems/past-models/ornamental-mills/manuals/
> 
> contacting legacy would be the only way to get one if they even made one if 
> you own a evolution mill did it come with a user manual there should be a 
> chart in that there usually is in the user manuals 
> 
> Bill
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
>  On Behalf Of James Hoerter
> Sent: Monday, 31 October 2022 2:08 PM
> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Evolution
> 
> Does anyone have a PDF of  taper chart for the Evolution Legacy that will 
> tell me the distance I need to elevate the platform to achieve a given taper 
> over a given length of the spindle?  Send to   jameshoer...@gmail.com.  Thanks
> 
> Sent from my iPad
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Re: Bone handled Magnifying Glass w/class

2022-10-30 Thread 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills

Good job!!

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> On Oct 30, 2022, at 2:11 AM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:
> 
> 
> Nice Tim
>  
> Bill
>  
> From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
>  On Behalf Of timjz...@gmail.com
> Sent: Sunday, 30 October 2022 1:12 PM
> To: Legacy Ornamental Mills 
> Subject: Bone handled Magnifying Glass w/class
>  
> Ok, Bone handle and a nice high quality magnifier. You can't 
> get much better then that. LOL
> so here is a bone handle I turned a couple weeks ago and I finally got
> back to late this afternoon after the "Honey do" was done. (Yes I even have 
> to do it
> from time to time).
> So some very high quality bone, from my new place to buy from (thanks Curt) 
> for the
> reference. 
> Very good quality Magnifying glass from either Craft Supplies USA or Penn 
> State. 
> I'll double check tomorrow, if anyone is interested. 
> Its a 6 start spiral. and a fairly long pitch. need to measure that. 
> Overall it was a nice project and my wife likes having it in the house. Hm
> shouldn't that be in the shop?? 
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Re: It looks like Legacy re-did there Techniques page.

2022-10-23 Thread 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills

Thanks Curt
Good info
Denson


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>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Lots of good things for you guys to see.
> 
> https://lwmcnc.com/cnc-systems/past-models/ornamental-mills/techniques/  
> 
> C.A.G.
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Re: It looks like Legacy re-did there Techniques page.

2022-10-23 Thread 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills



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>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Lots of good things for you guys to see.
> 
> https://lwmcnc.com/cnc-systems/past-models/ornamental-mills/techniques/  
> 
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Re: Lathe chucks/Jaws on sale - Shopsmith related

2022-10-22 Thread 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills

I agree with the old ad you feel.
Lol
Denson

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> On Oct 22, 2022, at 4:20 PM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:
> 
> 
> Here https://drive.google.com/file/d/1I_t8AhTDj5GBDhJ0QJdm49BZ8HCNDq_E/view
>  
> Bill
>  
> From: 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
>  
> Sent: Sunday, 23 October 2022 5:39 AM
> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Lathe chucks/Jaws on sale - Shopsmith related
>  
> Please tell me where to find a taper chart for a LOM 900.
> Thanks in advance
> Denson
> 
> Sent from Denson's iPhone
> 
> 
> On Oct 22, 2022, at 1:13 PM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:
> 
> 
> yeah your just a young Buck lol I got 10 on you. 60
> Kind Regards,
>  
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>  
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
>  
>  
> On Sat, Oct 22, 2022 at 12:24 PM Jeff Richmond  wrote:
> Sounds familiar and I am only 50, lol
> 
> Jeff from Connecticut 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> 
> On Oct 22, 2022, at 11:22 AM, 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
>  wrote:
> 
> When your mind feels 40ish but when you tackle a job that a 40 year old 
> could do easily and your body says “oh no you don’t “.
> That’s 77 lol.
> Denson
> 
> Sent from Denson's iPhone
> 
> 
> On Oct 21, 2022, at 9:55 PM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:
> 
> 
> Define old my Friend.lol
> Kind Regards,
>  
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>  
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
>  
>  
> On Fri, Oct 21, 2022 at 7:01 PM 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
>  wrote:
> You are so right about the little respect thing and I could not be more 
> pleased with my 3. I was a single parent for a number of last years of their 
> school years. 
> I always say they turned out great in spite of me not because of me lol.
> They have produced 6 grand children and 3 great grand and another on the way. 
> Talk about feeling old. Well guess it’s because I am old lol.
> Denson
>  
> 
> Sent from Denson's iPhone
> 
> 
> On Oct 21, 2022, at 5:37 PM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:
> 
> 
> Respect I like that, so little of it left in the world these days be proud
> Of those children of yours.
>  
> Bill
>  
> From: 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
>  
> Sent: Saturday, 22 October 2022 4:31 AM
> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Lathe chucks/Jaws on sale - Shopsmith related
>  
> Yes sir that is true. It is a sign of respect not one of age or status.
> My 3 grown children say sir to me. I really did not demand or instruct them 
> to do that in their early years. However I did teach them to be respectful.
> Denson
> 
> Sent from Denson's iPhone
>  
> 
> On Oct 21, 2022, at 5:58 AM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:
> 
> 
> I have never been called sir in my life here its mate
>  
> Bill
>  
> From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
>  On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
> Sent: Friday, 21 October 2022 9:46 PM
> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Lathe chucks/Jaws on sale - Shopsmith related
>  
> yes Sir that is correct, here it's called Minnesota Nice. 
> 
> Kind Regards,
>  
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>  
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
>  
>  
> On Fri, Oct 21, 2022 at 12:47 AM  wrote:
> From what I have heard a great state too strangers actually call you sir if 
> that is true unbelievable
>  
> Bill
>  
> From: 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
>  
> Sent: Friday, 21 October 2022 4:43 PM
> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Lathe chucks/Jaws on sale - Shopsmith related
>  
> Yeah sorry Bill. Wish we could get you here to Texas. A great country.
> Denson
> 
> Sent from my iPad
>  
> 
> On Oct 20, 2022, at 4:56 PM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:
> 
> 
> wow sorry Bill
> Kind Regards,
>  
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>  
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
>  
>  
> On Thu, Oct 20, 2022 at 4:48 PM  wrote:
> No just rockler, and that was back when the dollar was strong  and shipping 
> was low
> Now I can still buy from them but with the low dollar and very high shipping 
> all their wonderful stuff
> Is just too expensive, buy something for say 20 us dollars I pay closer to 35 
> dollars then like 80 dollars
> Shipping suddenly that really great priced item rockler

Re: Lathe chucks/Jaws on sale - Shopsmith related

2022-10-22 Thread 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills

Thanks Bill I had finally found it.
Denson

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> On Oct 22, 2022, at 4:20 PM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:
> 
> 
> Here https://drive.google.com/file/d/1I_t8AhTDj5GBDhJ0QJdm49BZ8HCNDq_E/view
>  
> Bill
>  
> From: 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
>  
> Sent: Sunday, 23 October 2022 5:39 AM
> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Lathe chucks/Jaws on sale - Shopsmith related
>  
> Please tell me where to find a taper chart for a LOM 900.
> Thanks in advance
> Denson
> 
> Sent from Denson's iPhone
> 
> 
> On Oct 22, 2022, at 1:13 PM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:
> 
> 
> yeah your just a young Buck lol I got 10 on you. 60
> Kind Regards,
>  
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>  
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
>  
>  
> On Sat, Oct 22, 2022 at 12:24 PM Jeff Richmond  wrote:
> Sounds familiar and I am only 50, lol
> 
> Jeff from Connecticut 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> 
> On Oct 22, 2022, at 11:22 AM, 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
>  wrote:
> 
> When your mind feels 40ish but when you tackle a job that a 40 year old 
> could do easily and your body says “oh no you don’t “.
> That’s 77 lol.
> Denson
> 
> Sent from Denson's iPhone
> 
> 
> On Oct 21, 2022, at 9:55 PM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:
> 
> 
> Define old my Friend.lol
> Kind Regards,
>  
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>  
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
>  
>  
> On Fri, Oct 21, 2022 at 7:01 PM 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
>  wrote:
> You are so right about the little respect thing and I could not be more 
> pleased with my 3. I was a single parent for a number of last years of their 
> school years. 
> I always say they turned out great in spite of me not because of me lol.
> They have produced 6 grand children and 3 great grand and another on the way. 
> Talk about feeling old. Well guess it’s because I am old lol.
> Denson
>  
> 
> Sent from Denson's iPhone
> 
> 
> On Oct 21, 2022, at 5:37 PM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:
> 
> 
> Respect I like that, so little of it left in the world these days be proud
> Of those children of yours.
>  
> Bill
>  
> From: 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
>  
> Sent: Saturday, 22 October 2022 4:31 AM
> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Lathe chucks/Jaws on sale - Shopsmith related
>  
> Yes sir that is true. It is a sign of respect not one of age or status.
> My 3 grown children say sir to me. I really did not demand or instruct them 
> to do that in their early years. However I did teach them to be respectful.
> Denson
> 
> Sent from Denson's iPhone
>  
> 
> On Oct 21, 2022, at 5:58 AM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:
> 
> 
> I have never been called sir in my life here its mate
>  
> Bill
>  
> From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
>  On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
> Sent: Friday, 21 October 2022 9:46 PM
> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Lathe chucks/Jaws on sale - Shopsmith related
>  
> yes Sir that is correct, here it's called Minnesota Nice. 
> 
> Kind Regards,
>  
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>  
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
>  
>  
> On Fri, Oct 21, 2022 at 12:47 AM  wrote:
> From what I have heard a great state too strangers actually call you sir if 
> that is true unbelievable
>  
> Bill
>  
> From: 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
>  
> Sent: Friday, 21 October 2022 4:43 PM
> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Lathe chucks/Jaws on sale - Shopsmith related
>  
> Yeah sorry Bill. Wish we could get you here to Texas. A great country.
> Denson
> 
> Sent from my iPad
>  
> 
> On Oct 20, 2022, at 4:56 PM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:
> 
> 
> wow sorry Bill
> Kind Regards,
>  
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>  
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
>  
>  
> On Thu, Oct 20, 2022 at 4:48 PM  wrote:
> No just rockler, and that was back when the dollar was strong  and shipping 
> was low
> Now I can still buy from them but with the low dollar and very high shipping 
> all their wonderful stuff
> Is just too expensive, buy something for say 20 us dollars I pay closer to 35 
> dollars then like 80 dollars
> Shipping suddenly that really great priced item rockler

Re: Lathe chucks/Jaws on sale - Shopsmith related

2022-10-22 Thread 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills

Found the 900 manual it may be in there.
Denson

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> On Oct 22, 2022, at 1:39 PM, 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
>  wrote:
> 
> Please tell me where to find a taper chart for a LOM 900.
> Thanks in advance
> Denson
> 
> Sent from Denson's iPhone
> 
>>> On Oct 22, 2022, at 1:13 PM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:
>>> 
>> 
>> yeah your just a young Buck lol I got 10 on you. 60
>> Kind Regards,
>> 
>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>> 14171 160th Ave.
>> Foreston MN 56330
>> 
>> 320-294-5798 shop
>> 320-630-2243 cell
>> 
>> 
>>> On Sat, Oct 22, 2022 at 12:24 PM Jeff Richmond  
>>> wrote:
>>> Sounds familiar and I am only 50, lol
>>> 
>>> Jeff from Connecticut 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>>> On Oct 22, 2022, at 11:22 AM, 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>> When your mind feels 40ish but when you tackle a job that a 40 year old 
>>>> could do easily and your body says “oh no you don’t “.
>>>> That’s 77 lol.
>>>> Denson
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from Denson's iPhone
>>>> 
>>>>>> On Oct 21, 2022, at 9:55 PM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Define old my Friend.lol
>>>>> Kind Regards,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>>>>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>>>>> 14171 160th Ave.
>>>>> Foreston MN 56330
>>>>> 
>>>>> 320-294-5798 shop
>>>>> 320-630-2243 cell
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Fri, Oct 21, 2022 at 7:01 PM 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental 
>>>>>> Mills  wrote:
>>>>>> You are so right about the little respect thing and I could not be more 
>>>>>> pleased with my 3. I was a single parent for a number of last years of 
>>>>>> their school years. 
>>>>>> I always say they turned out great in spite of me not because of me lol.
>>>>>> They have produced 6 grand children and 3 great grand and another on the 
>>>>>> way. Talk about feeling old. Well guess it’s because I am old lol.
>>>>>> Denson
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Sent from Denson's iPhone
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Oct 21, 2022, at 5:37 PM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Respect I like that, so little of it left in the world these days be 
>>>>>>> proud
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Of those children of yours.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Bill
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> From: 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, 22 October 2022 4:31 AM
>>>>>>> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Lathe chucks/Jaws on sale - Shopsmith related
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Yes sir that is true. It is a sign of respect not one of age or status.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> My 3 grown children say sir to me. I really did not demand or instruct 
>>>>>>> them to do that in their early years. However I did teach them to be 
>>>>>>> respectful.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Denson
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Sent from Denson's iPhone
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Oct 21, 2022, at 5:58 AM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I have never been called sir in my life here its mate
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Bill
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
>>>>

Re: Lathe chucks/Jaws on sale - Shopsmith related

2022-10-22 Thread 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills

Please tell me where to find a taper chart for a LOM 900.
Thanks in advance
Denson

Sent from Denson's iPhone

> On Oct 22, 2022, at 1:13 PM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:
> 
> 
> yeah your just a young Buck lol I got 10 on you. 60
> Kind Regards,
> 
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
> 
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
> 
> 
>> On Sat, Oct 22, 2022 at 12:24 PM Jeff Richmond  wrote:
>> Sounds familiar and I am only 50, lol
>> 
>> Jeff from Connecticut 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>>> On Oct 22, 2022, at 11:22 AM, 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
>>>>  wrote:
>>>> 
>>> When your mind feels 40ish but when you tackle a job that a 40 year old 
>>> could do easily and your body says “oh no you don’t “.
>>> That’s 77 lol.
>>> Denson
>>> 
>>> Sent from Denson's iPhone
>>> 
>>>>> On Oct 21, 2022, at 9:55 PM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Define old my Friend.lol
>>>> Kind Regards,
>>>> 
>>>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>>>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>>>> 14171 160th Ave.
>>>> Foreston MN 56330
>>>> 
>>>> 320-294-5798 shop
>>>> 320-630-2243 cell
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Fri, Oct 21, 2022 at 7:01 PM 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental 
>>>>> Mills  wrote:
>>>>> You are so right about the little respect thing and I could not be more 
>>>>> pleased with my 3. I was a single parent for a number of last years of 
>>>>> their school years. 
>>>>> I always say they turned out great in spite of me not because of me lol.
>>>>> They have produced 6 grand children and 3 great grand and another on the 
>>>>> way. Talk about feeling old. Well guess it’s because I am old lol.
>>>>> Denson
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sent from Denson's iPhone
>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Oct 21, 2022, at 5:37 PM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Respect I like that, so little of it left in the world these days be 
>>>>>> proud
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Of those children of yours.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Bill
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> From: 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, 22 October 2022 4:31 AM
>>>>>> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
>>>>>> Subject: Re: Lathe chucks/Jaws on sale - Shopsmith related
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Yes sir that is true. It is a sign of respect not one of age or status.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> My 3 grown children say sir to me. I really did not demand or instruct 
>>>>>> them to do that in their early years. However I did teach them to be 
>>>>>> respectful.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Denson
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Sent from Denson's iPhone
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Oct 21, 2022, at 5:58 AM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I have never been called sir in my life here its mate
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Bill
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
>>>>>>  On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
>>>>>> Sent: Friday, 21 October 2022 9:46 PM
>>>>>> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
>>>>>> Subject: Re: Lathe chucks/Jaws on sale - Shopsmith related
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> yes Sir that is correct, here it's called Minnesota Nice. 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Kind Regards,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>&g

Re: Lathe chucks/Jaws on sale - Shopsmith related

2022-10-22 Thread 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills

When your mind feels 40ish but when you tackle a job that a 40 year old could 
do easily and your body says “oh no you don’t “.
That’s 77 lol.
Denson

Sent from Denson's iPhone

> On Oct 21, 2022, at 9:55 PM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:
> 
> 
> Define old my Friend.lol
> Kind Regards,
> 
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
> 
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
> 
> 
>> On Fri, Oct 21, 2022 at 7:01 PM 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
>>  wrote:
>> You are so right about the little respect thing and I could not be more 
>> pleased with my 3. I was a single parent for a number of last years of their 
>> school years. 
>> I always say they turned out great in spite of me not because of me lol.
>> They have produced 6 grand children and 3 great grand and another on the 
>> way. Talk about feeling old. Well guess it’s because I am old lol.
>> Denson
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from Denson's iPhone
>> 
>>>> On Oct 21, 2022, at 5:37 PM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> Respect I like that, so little of it left in the world these days be proud
>>> 
>>> Of those children of yours.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Bill
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> From: 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
>>>  
>>> Sent: Saturday, 22 October 2022 4:31 AM
>>> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Lathe chucks/Jaws on sale - Shopsmith related
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Yes sir that is true. It is a sign of respect not one of age or status.
>>> 
>>> My 3 grown children say sir to me. I really did not demand or instruct them 
>>> to do that in their early years. However I did teach them to be respectful.
>>> 
>>> Denson
>>> 
>>> Sent from Denson's iPhone
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Oct 21, 2022, at 5:58 AM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I have never been called sir in my life here its mate
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Bill
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
>>>  On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
>>> Sent: Friday, 21 October 2022 9:46 PM
>>> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Lathe chucks/Jaws on sale - Shopsmith related
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> yes Sir that is correct, here it's called Minnesota Nice. 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Kind Regards,
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>>> 
>>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>>> 
>>> 14171 160th Ave.
>>> 
>>> Foreston MN 56330
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> 320-294-5798 shop
>>> 
>>> 320-630-2243 cell
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> On Fri, Oct 21, 2022 at 12:47 AM  wrote:
>>> 
>>> From what I have heard a great state too strangers actually call you sir if 
>>> that is true unbelievable
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Bill
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> From: 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
>>>  
>>> Sent: Friday, 21 October 2022 4:43 PM
>>> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Lathe chucks/Jaws on sale - Shopsmith related
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Yeah sorry Bill. Wish we could get you here to Texas. A great country.
>>> 
>>> Denson
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> On Oct 20, 2022, at 4:56 PM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> wow sorry Bill
>>> 
>>> Kind Regards,
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>>> 
>>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>>> 
>>> 14171 160th Ave.
>>> 
>>> Foreston MN 56330
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> 320-294-5798 shop
>>> 
>>> 320-630-2243 cell
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> On Thu, Oct 20, 2022 at 4:48 PM  wrote:
>>> 
>>> No just rockler, and that was back when the dollar was strong  and shipping 
>>> was low
>>> 
>>> Now I can still buy from them but with the low dollar an

Re: Lathe chucks/Jaws on sale - Shopsmith related

2022-10-21 Thread 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills

You are so right about the little respect thing and I could not be more pleased 
with my 3. I was a single parent for a number of last years of their school 
years. 
I always say they turned out great in spite of me not because of me lol.
They have produced 6 grand children and 3 great grand and another on the way. 
Talk about feeling old. Well guess it’s because I am old lol.
Denson


Sent from Denson's iPhone

> On Oct 21, 2022, at 5:37 PM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:
> 
> 
> Respect I like that, so little of it left in the world these days be proud
> Of those children of yours.
>  
> Bill
>  
> From: 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
>  
> Sent: Saturday, 22 October 2022 4:31 AM
> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Lathe chucks/Jaws on sale - Shopsmith related
>  
> Yes sir that is true. It is a sign of respect not one of age or status.
> My 3 grown children say sir to me. I really did not demand or instruct them 
> to do that in their early years. However I did teach them to be respectful.
> Denson
> 
> Sent from Denson's iPhone
> 
> 
> On Oct 21, 2022, at 5:58 AM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:
> 
> 
> I have never been called sir in my life here its mate
>  
> Bill
>  
> From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
>  On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
> Sent: Friday, 21 October 2022 9:46 PM
> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Lathe chucks/Jaws on sale - Shopsmith related
>  
> yes Sir that is correct, here it's called Minnesota Nice. 
> 
> Kind Regards,
>  
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>  
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
>  
>  
> On Fri, Oct 21, 2022 at 12:47 AM  wrote:
> From what I have heard a great state too strangers actually call you sir if 
> that is true unbelievable
>  
> Bill
>  
> From: 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
>  
> Sent: Friday, 21 October 2022 4:43 PM
> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Lathe chucks/Jaws on sale - Shopsmith related
>  
> Yeah sorry Bill. Wish we could get you here to Texas. A great country.
> Denson
> 
> Sent from my iPad
>  
> 
> On Oct 20, 2022, at 4:56 PM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:
> 
> 
> wow sorry Bill
> Kind Regards,
>  
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>  
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
>  
>  
> On Thu, Oct 20, 2022 at 4:48 PM  wrote:
> No just rockler, and that was back when the dollar was strong  and shipping 
> was low
> Now I can still buy from them but with the low dollar and very high shipping 
> all their wonderful stuff
> Is just too expensive, buy something for say 20 us dollars I pay closer to 35 
> dollars then like 80 dollars
> Shipping suddenly that really great priced item rockler has you guys get 
> costs me over a 100 bucks
> So I really have to want it you know.
>  
> Bill
>  
>  
>  
> From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
>  On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
> Sent: Friday, 21 October 2022 8:31 AM
> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Lathe chucks/Jaws on sale - Shopsmith related
>  
> Glad to hear you get some of the perks we do. 
> How about WoodCraft, PennState, Craft Supplies USA, WoodWorkers Supply? etc...
> Kind Regards,
>  
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>  
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
>  
>  
> On Thu, Oct 20, 2022 at 2:49 PM  wrote:
> Even here rockler is good because they ship internationally I replaced a lot 
> of my woodwork stuff from them after the fire
> great company
>  
> Bill
>  
> From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
>  On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
> Sent: Thursday, 20 October 2022 9:49 PM
> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Lathe chucks/Jaws on sale - Shopsmith related
>  
> Yup, It is a great company and the History is great. I have been buying from 
> them
> for at least 35 years if not more. I remember it being the woodworker's store 
> and still have 
> screw boxes and old invoices around from that era. Ann does a great job of 
> managing 
> the business and they stay on top of things. Recently did a huge survey for 
> them on 
> items and interests on turning and supplies etc... was good. 
>  
> Kind Regards,
>  
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>  
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
>  
>  
> On Wed, Oct 19, 2022 at 11:44 PM

Re: Lathe chucks/Jaws on sale - Shopsmith related

2022-10-21 Thread 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills

Yes sir that is true. It is a sign of respect not one of age or status.
My 3 grown children say sir to me. I really did not demand or instruct them to 
do that in their early years. However I did teach them to be respectful.
Denson

Sent from Denson's iPhone

> On Oct 21, 2022, at 5:58 AM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:
> 
> 
> I have never been called sir in my life here its mate
>  
> Bill
>  
> From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
>  On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
> Sent: Friday, 21 October 2022 9:46 PM
> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Lathe chucks/Jaws on sale - Shopsmith related
>  
> yes Sir that is correct, here it's called Minnesota Nice. 
> 
> Kind Regards,
>  
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>  
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
>  
>  
> On Fri, Oct 21, 2022 at 12:47 AM  wrote:
> From what I have heard a great state too strangers actually call you sir if 
> that is true unbelievable
>  
> Bill
>  
> From: 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
>  
> Sent: Friday, 21 October 2022 4:43 PM
> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Lathe chucks/Jaws on sale - Shopsmith related
>  
> Yeah sorry Bill. Wish we could get you here to Texas. A great country.
> Denson
> 
> Sent from my iPad
>  
> 
> On Oct 20, 2022, at 4:56 PM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:
> 
> 
> wow sorry Bill
> Kind Regards,
>  
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>  
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
>  
>  
> On Thu, Oct 20, 2022 at 4:48 PM  wrote:
> No just rockler, and that was back when the dollar was strong  and shipping 
> was low
> Now I can still buy from them but with the low dollar and very high shipping 
> all their wonderful stuff
> Is just too expensive, buy something for say 20 us dollars I pay closer to 35 
> dollars then like 80 dollars
> Shipping suddenly that really great priced item rockler has you guys get 
> costs me over a 100 bucks
> So I really have to want it you know.
>  
> Bill
>  
>  
>  
> From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
>  On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
> Sent: Friday, 21 October 2022 8:31 AM
> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Lathe chucks/Jaws on sale - Shopsmith related
>  
> Glad to hear you get some of the perks we do. 
> How about WoodCraft, PennState, Craft Supplies USA, WoodWorkers Supply? etc...
> Kind Regards,
>  
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>  
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
>  
>  
> On Thu, Oct 20, 2022 at 2:49 PM  wrote:
> Even here rockler is good because they ship internationally I replaced a lot 
> of my woodwork stuff from them after the fire
> great company
>  
> Bill
>  
> From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
>  On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
> Sent: Thursday, 20 October 2022 9:49 PM
> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Lathe chucks/Jaws on sale - Shopsmith related
>  
> Yup, It is a great company and the History is great. I have been buying from 
> them
> for at least 35 years if not more. I remember it being the woodworker's store 
> and still have 
> screw boxes and old invoices around from that era. Ann does a great job of 
> managing 
> the business and they stay on top of things. Recently did a huge survey for 
> them on 
> items and interests on turning and supplies etc... was good. 
>  
> Kind Regards,
>  
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>  
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
>  
>  
> On Wed, Oct 19, 2022 at 11:44 PM M.W.Foscue  wrote:
> Tim,
>  
> You are welcome.
> Re: Rockler - Yes, they have been having some nice sales recently.
> And a great company to patronize!
> Been in business over 60 years - and Family Owned (and now technically, a 
> "woman-owned business"; as Ann Rockler Jackson "inherited" it from her dad, 
> Nordy several years ago - before his passing). 
> They have 42 stores scattered around the USA - with plans to add ~10 more 
> between now and end of 2023.
>  
> Cheers!
> Mac
> -Original Message-
> From: 
> Sent: Oct 19, 2022 11:05 PM
> To: 
> Subject: Re: Lathe chucks/Jaws on sale - Shopsmith related
> 
>  
> Thanks Mac
> I always appreciate a good sale lol.
> Rockler has been having some good ones too. lol.
> Kind Regards,
>  
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
&

Re: Lathe chucks/Jaws on sale - Shopsmith related

2022-10-20 Thread 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills

Yeah sorry Bill. Wish we could get you here to Texas. A great country.
Denson

Sent from my iPad

> On Oct 20, 2022, at 4:56 PM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:
> 
> 
> wow sorry Bill
> Kind Regards,
> 
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
> 
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
> 
> 
>> On Thu, Oct 20, 2022 at 4:48 PM  wrote:
>> No just rockler, and that was back when the dollar was strong  and shipping 
>> was low
>> 
>> Now I can still buy from them but with the low dollar and very high shipping 
>> all their wonderful stuff
>> 
>> Is just too expensive, buy something for say 20 us dollars I pay closer to 
>> 35 dollars then like 80 dollars
>> 
>> Shipping suddenly that really great priced item rockler has you guys get 
>> costs me over a 100 bucks
>> 
>> So I really have to want it you know.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Bill
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
>>  On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
>> Sent: Friday, 21 October 2022 8:31 AM
>> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Lathe chucks/Jaws on sale - Shopsmith related
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Glad to hear you get some of the perks we do. 
>> 
>> How about WoodCraft, PennState, Craft Supplies USA, WoodWorkers Supply? 
>> etc...
>> 
>> Kind Regards,
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>> 
>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>> 
>> 14171 160th Ave.
>> 
>> Foreston MN 56330
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> 320-294-5798 shop
>> 
>> 320-630-2243 cell
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> On Thu, Oct 20, 2022 at 2:49 PM  wrote:
>> 
>> Even here rockler is good because they ship internationally I replaced a lot 
>> of my woodwork stuff from them after the fire
>> 
>> great company
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Bill
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
>>  On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
>> Sent: Thursday, 20 October 2022 9:49 PM
>> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Lathe chucks/Jaws on sale - Shopsmith related
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Yup, It is a great company and the History is great. I have been buying from 
>> them
>> 
>> for at least 35 years if not more. I remember it being the woodworker's 
>> store and still have 
>> 
>> screw boxes and old invoices around from that era. Ann does a great job of 
>> managing 
>> 
>> the business and they stay on top of things. Recently did a huge survey for 
>> them on 
>> 
>> items and interests on turning and supplies etc... was good. 
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Kind Regards,
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>> 
>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>> 
>> 14171 160th Ave.
>> 
>> Foreston MN 56330
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> 320-294-5798 shop
>> 
>> 320-630-2243 cell
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> On Wed, Oct 19, 2022 at 11:44 PM M.W.Foscue  wrote:
>> 
>> Tim,
>>  
>> You are welcome.
>> Re: Rockler - Yes, they have been having some nice sales recently.
>> And a great company to patronize!
>> Been in business over 60 years - and Family Owned (and now technically, a 
>> "woman-owned business"; as Ann Rockler Jackson "inherited" it from her dad, 
>> Nordy several years ago - before his passing). 
>> They have 42 stores scattered around the USA - with plans to add ~10 more 
>> between now and end of 2023.
>>  
>> Cheers!
>> Mac
>> -Original Message-
>> From: 
>> Sent: Oct 19, 2022 11:05 PM
>> To: 
>> Subject: Re: Lathe chucks/Jaws on sale - Shopsmith related
>> 
>>  
>> Thanks Mac
>> 
>> I always appreciate a good sale lol.
>> 
>> Rockler has been having some good ones too. lol.
>> 
>> Kind Regards,
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>> 
>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>> 
>> 14171 160th Ave.
>> 
>> Foreston MN 56330
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> 320-294-5798 shop
>> 
>> 320-630-2243 cell
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> On Wed, Oct 19, 2022 at 7:22 PM M.W.Foscue  wrote:
>> 
>> For all you Shopsmith owners in The Group - I wanted to be sure ya'll saw 
>> this special sale they are running.
>> Several of ya'll have been kicking around discussions of turning/lathe 
>> chucks, jaws, adapters, etc. - so here you go.
>> Cheers!!
>> Mac
>> -Forwarded Message-
>> From: Shopsmith 
>> Sent: Oct 19, 2022 7:35 PM
>> 
>> 
>> Subject: STOP THE PRESSES! New Products are Here!
>>  
>> 
>> 
>> 
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>>  
>> 
>> 
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>> 
>> 
>>  
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>> 
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> This offer cannot be combined with YOU-PICK Savings or any other offer.
>> Sale pricing valid through 10/22/2022, 11:59 PM ET.
>> 
>> 6530 Poe Avenue, Dayton, OH 45414
>> 
>> Ready to place an order?
>> Visit www.shopsmith.com or call Customer Care at (937) 890-5197
>> 
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Re: Lathe chucks/Jaws on sale - Shopsmith related

2022-10-19 Thread 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills

Thanks Mac
Denson

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> On Oct 19, 2022, at 7:42 PM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:
> 
> 
> I’m giving it a look mac and I don’t have a shopsmith there might be 
> something there that catches my eye
> 
> Bill
>  
> From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
>  On Behalf Of M.W.Foscue
> Sent: Thursday, 20 October 2022 11:22 AM
> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Lathe chucks/Jaws on sale - Shopsmith related
>  
> For all you Shopsmith owners in The Group - I wanted to be sure ya'll saw 
> this special sale they are running.
> 
> Several of ya'll have been kicking around discussions of turning/lathe 
> chucks, jaws, adapters, etc. - so here you go.
> Cheers!!
> Mac
> -Forwarded Message-
> From: Shopsmith 
> Sent: Oct 19, 2022 7:35 PM
> 
> 
> Subject: STOP THE PRESSES! New Products are Here!
>  
> 
> 
> 
>  
> 
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
>  
> This offer cannot be combined with YOU-PICK Savings or any other offer.
> Sale pricing valid through 10/22/2022, 11:59 PM ET.
> 
> 6530 Poe Avenue, Dayton, OH 45414
> 
> Ready to place an order?
> Visit www.shopsmith.com or call Customer Care at (937) 890-5197
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Re: Adapting form the Shop Smith to the Legacy by Denson

2022-10-17 Thread 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills

Thank you Curt
Denson

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> On Oct 17, 2022, at 9:33 PM, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi Curt, an off the subject question. How is the best way to go from 
> Shopsmith lathe to LOM? And vice versa. If a made device please sent a pic.
> Thank you
> Denson
> 
> Sent from Denson's iPhone
> 
> 
> Hello Denson. This question demands its own link. I will reply to the group.
> Thank you.
> 
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Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5

2022-10-17 Thread 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills

Thanks Tim. I’ll make a list of my extra LOM items tmrw and post or let you 
know.
Denson

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> On Oct 17, 2022, at 9:08 PM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:
> 
> 
> I'll check tomorrow but I think I put most of my extra's to use for running 
> from one machine to the other. 
> 
> Kind Regards,
> 
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
> 
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
> 
> 
>> On Mon, Oct 17, 2022 at 8:37 PM 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
>>  wrote:
>> If anyone has an extra female dog plate I would be interested in a purchase 
>> or trade perhaps. I have some extra LOM parts that I would consider trading.
>> Thanks
>> Denson
>> 
>> Sent from Denson's iPhone
>> 
>>>> On Oct 17, 2022, at 7:57 PM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> Good luck with that but you never know
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Bill
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> From: 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
>>>  
>>> Sent: Tuesday, 18 October 2022 11:53 AM
>>> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> I have everything but the female side of LOM dog plate. I’ll call legacy 
>>> tmrw and see if they have one they will sell me.
>>> 
>>> Thanks for all the help guys.
>>> 
>>> I’ll show the finish part when complete.
>>> 
>>> Denson
>>> 
>>> Sent from Denson's iPhone
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Oct 17, 2022, at 6:18 PM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Something like this for the polish wheel adaptor ?
>>> 
>>> https://www.amazon.com/Spindle-Adapter-mounting-polishing-Woodworking/dp/B07RT5NG3N
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Bill
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
>>>  On Behalf Of Okla Mike 
>>> (Liltwisted)
>>> Sent: Tuesday, 18 October 2022 9:49 AM
>>> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Here you go, I knew I wasn't going to get away with just a post.
>>> 
>>> On 10/17/2022 5:21 PM, Tim Ziegler wrote:
>>> 
>>> Mike can you send a pic or so of your design too?
>>> 
>>> Kind Regards,
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>>> 
>>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>>> 
>>> 14171 160th Ave.
>>> 
>>> Foreston MN 56330
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> 320-294-5798 shop
>>> 
>>> 320-630-2243 cell
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> On Mon, Oct 17, 2022 at 5:19 PM Okla Mike (Liltwisted) 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Shop Smith has a 5/8" smooth shaft.  What I did was use the #2mt to 5/8" 
>>> adapter SS uses to put a drill chuck into the tail stock.  I installed it 
>>> on the Legacy drive so then I could just use the SS normal drive spur on 
>>> both machines.  If you are wanting to use the drive dogs on the SS look at 
>>> motor accessories and find a polish wheel adapter that will fit a 5/8" 
>>> motor shaft.  Then I ordered a unmounted female side dog plate from Legacy 
>>> and welded it onto the polish wheel shaft.  I trimmed off the excess shaft 
>>> and now I was ready to set-screw it onto the SS.  These two set-ups will 
>>> allow you to use either a spur or drive dogs.
>>> 
>>> Mike
>>> OK
>>> 
>>> On 10/17/2022 10:59 AM, 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills wrote:
>>> 
>>> Thank you Bill for the great info for us beginners.
>>> 
>>> I’m sure this has been brought up before but how is the best way to go from 
>>> LOM to Shopsmith lathe or vice versa. And if special made connectors could 
>>> you send pics?
>>> 
>>> Thanks
>>> 
>>> Denson
>>> 
>>> Sent from Denson's iPhone
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Oct 17, 2022, at 7:32 AM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I wouldn’t say toolmaker we learnt how to si

Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5

2022-10-17 Thread 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills

If anyone has an extra female dog plate I would be interested in a purchase or 
trade perhaps. I have some extra LOM parts that I would consider trading.
Thanks
Denson

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> On Oct 17, 2022, at 7:57 PM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:
> 
> 
> Good luck with that but you never know
>  
> Bill
>  
> From: 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
>  
> Sent: Tuesday, 18 October 2022 11:53 AM
> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5
>  
> I have everything but the female side of LOM dog plate. I’ll call legacy tmrw 
> and see if they have one they will sell me.
> Thanks for all the help guys.
> I’ll show the finish part when complete.
> Denson
> 
> Sent from Denson's iPhone
> 
> 
> On Oct 17, 2022, at 6:18 PM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:
> 
> 
> Something like this for the polish wheel adaptor ?
> https://www.amazon.com/Spindle-Adapter-mounting-polishing-Woodworking/dp/B07RT5NG3N
>  
> Bill
>  
>  
> From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
>  On Behalf Of Okla Mike (Liltwisted)
> Sent: Tuesday, 18 October 2022 9:49 AM
> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5
>  
> Here you go, I knew I wasn't going to get away with just a post.
> 
> On 10/17/2022 5:21 PM, Tim Ziegler wrote:
> Mike can you send a pic or so of your design too?
> Kind Regards,
>  
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>  
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
>  
>  
> On Mon, Oct 17, 2022 at 5:19 PM Okla Mike (Liltwisted) 
>  wrote:
> Shop Smith has a 5/8" smooth shaft.  What I did was use the #2mt to 5/8" 
> adapter SS uses to put a drill chuck into the tail stock.  I installed it on 
> the Legacy drive so then I could just use the SS normal drive spur on both 
> machines.  If you are wanting to use the drive dogs on the SS look at motor 
> accessories and find a polish wheel adapter that will fit a 5/8" motor shaft. 
>  Then I ordered a unmounted female side dog plate from Legacy and welded it 
> onto the polish wheel shaft.  I trimmed off the excess shaft and now I was 
> ready to set-screw it onto the SS.  These two set-ups will allow you to use 
> either a spur or drive dogs.
> 
> Mike
> OK
> 
> On 10/17/2022 10:59 AM, 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills wrote:
> Thank you Bill for the great info for us beginners.
> I’m sure this has been brought up before but how is the best way to go from 
> LOM to Shopsmith lathe or vice versa. And if special made connectors could 
> you send pics?
> Thanks
> Denson
> 
> Sent from Denson's iPhone
> 
> 
> 
> On Oct 17, 2022, at 7:32 AM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:
> 
> 
> I wouldn’t say toolmaker we learnt how to silver braze tips as an apprentice 
> and hand grinding tools for the metal lathe as
> Part of the trade.
> Insertable carbide tips were just becoming popular back then there were no 
> where near the amount of different shapes
> There is now so brazed carbide was still around and in use, recycling used 
> inserts wasn’t the thing much then
> So I could get handfuls of old used inserts which I still have all these 
> years later. insert tools were expensive back then
> So making your own was the logical thing to do I don’t know why it hasn’t 
> become popular in wood turning tools today
> A nice piece of high tensile steel and some old used inserts and you can have 
> a $300 lathe tool it’s a no brainer really.
> But after saying all this I couldn’t make router bits you need specialised 
> grinding and milling machines for that.
> Much easier just to buy them or insert router bits.
>  
> Bill
>  
>  
>  
>  
> From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
>  On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
> Sent: Monday, 17 October 2022 9:41 PM
> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5
>  
> Wow Bill, so your a tool maker too. Now I'm even more impressed. lol
> I agree there are plenty of imports that can be as good, if they have good 
> quality control for sure. 
> 
> Kind Regards,
>  
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>  
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
>  
>  
> On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 10:48 PM  wrote:
> I do remember the silver brazed on bits I used them lots in my days in the 
> metal trade
> And I make them still in my shop they were great when you needed a custom 
> shape tool
> I use used blunt inserts and braze them on to a blank and they work as

Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5

2022-10-17 Thread 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills

I have everything but the female side of LOM dog plate. I’ll call legacy tmrw 
and see if they have one they will sell me.
Thanks for all the help guys.
I’ll show the finish part when complete.
Denson

Sent from Denson's iPhone

> On Oct 17, 2022, at 6:18 PM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:
> 
> 
> Something like this for the polish wheel adaptor ?
> https://www.amazon.com/Spindle-Adapter-mounting-polishing-Woodworking/dp/B07RT5NG3N
>  
> Bill
>  
>  
> From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
>  On Behalf Of Okla Mike (Liltwisted)
> Sent: Tuesday, 18 October 2022 9:49 AM
> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5
>  
> Here you go, I knew I wasn't going to get away with just a post.
> 
> On 10/17/2022 5:21 PM, Tim Ziegler wrote:
> Mike can you send a pic or so of your design too?
> Kind Regards,
>  
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>  
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
>  
>  
> On Mon, Oct 17, 2022 at 5:19 PM Okla Mike (Liltwisted) 
>  wrote:
> Shop Smith has a 5/8" smooth shaft.  What I did was use the #2mt to 5/8" 
> adapter SS uses to put a drill chuck into the tail stock.  I installed it on 
> the Legacy drive so then I could just use the SS normal drive spur on both 
> machines.  If you are wanting to use the drive dogs on the SS look at motor 
> accessories and find a polish wheel adapter that will fit a 5/8" motor shaft. 
>  Then I ordered a unmounted female side dog plate from Legacy and welded it 
> onto the polish wheel shaft.  I trimmed off the excess shaft and now I was 
> ready to set-screw it onto the SS.  These two set-ups will allow you to use 
> either a spur or drive dogs.
> 
> Mike
> OK
> 
> On 10/17/2022 10:59 AM, 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills wrote:
> Thank you Bill for the great info for us beginners.
> I’m sure this has been brought up before but how is the best way to go from 
> LOM to Shopsmith lathe or vice versa. And if special made connectors could 
> you send pics?
> Thanks
> Denson
> 
> Sent from Denson's iPhone
> 
> 
> On Oct 17, 2022, at 7:32 AM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:
> 
> 
> I wouldn’t say toolmaker we learnt how to silver braze tips as an apprentice 
> and hand grinding tools for the metal lathe as
> Part of the trade.
> Insertable carbide tips were just becoming popular back then there were no 
> where near the amount of different shapes
> There is now so brazed carbide was still around and in use, recycling used 
> inserts wasn’t the thing much then
> So I could get handfuls of old used inserts which I still have all these 
> years later. insert tools were expensive back then
> So making your own was the logical thing to do I don’t know why it hasn’t 
> become popular in wood turning tools today
> A nice piece of high tensile steel and some old used inserts and you can have 
> a $300 lathe tool it’s a no brainer really.
> But after saying all this I couldn’t make router bits you need specialised 
> grinding and milling machines for that.
> Much easier just to buy them or insert router bits.
>  
> Bill
>  
>  
>  
>  
> From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
>  On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
> Sent: Monday, 17 October 2022 9:41 PM
> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5
>  
> Wow Bill, so your a tool maker too. Now I'm even more impressed. lol
> I agree there are plenty of imports that can be as good, if they have good 
> quality control for sure. 
> 
> Kind Regards,
>  
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>  
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
>  
>  
> On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 10:48 PM  wrote:
> I do remember the silver brazed on bits I used them lots in my days in the 
> metal trade
> And I make them still in my shop they were great when you needed a custom 
> shape tool
> I use used blunt inserts and braze them on to a blank and they work as good 
> as any insert
> Because they are an insert.
> Anyway that tool your showing here is only a 2 flute where mine is 3
> Because I am poor I would buy the cheaper cutter but buy the high quality 
> inserts and put in it
> Provided they fit, easy wood lathe tool inserts fit in mine and I find them 
> quite good.
>  
> Bill
>  
> From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
>  On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
> Sent: Monday, 17 October 2022 1:09 PM
> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5
>  
> Well in

Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5

2022-10-17 Thread 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills

Thanks Tim. I was thinking someone here has fab one that can go from SS to LOM 
but I can’t remember who.
Thanks
Denson



Sent from Denson's iPhone

> On Oct 17, 2022, at 1:44 PM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:
> 
> 
> oh and I think Curt welded up an adapter and yes he'd have pix. 
> 
> Kind Regards,
> 
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
> 
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
> 
> 
>> On Mon, Oct 17, 2022 at 12:06 PM  wrote:
>> Curt can answer that one he does it all the time I don’t have a shop smith
>> 
>> But if your shopsmith has a number 2 morse taper in its headstock
>> 
>> Legacys drive hub will fit right in it. That’s what I do in my nova wood 
>> lathe
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Bill
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> From: 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
>>  
>> Sent: Tuesday, 18 October 2022 2:59 AM
>> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Thank you Bill for the great info for us beginners.
>> 
>> I’m sure this has been brought up before but how is the best way to go from 
>> LOM to Shopsmith lathe or vice versa. And if special made connectors could 
>> you send pics?
>> 
>> Thanks
>> 
>> Denson
>> 
>> Sent from Denson's iPhone
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Oct 17, 2022, at 7:32 AM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I wouldn’t say toolmaker we learnt how to silver braze tips as an apprentice 
>> and hand grinding tools for the metal lathe as
>> 
>> Part of the trade.
>> 
>> Insertable carbide tips were just becoming popular back then there were no 
>> where near the amount of different shapes
>> 
>> There is now so brazed carbide was still around and in use, recycling used 
>> inserts wasn’t the thing much then
>> 
>> So I could get handfuls of old used inserts which I still have all these 
>> years later. insert tools were expensive back then
>> 
>> So making your own was the logical thing to do I don’t know why it hasn’t 
>> become popular in wood turning tools today
>> 
>> A nice piece of high tensile steel and some old used inserts and you can 
>> have a $300 lathe tool it’s a no brainer really.
>> 
>> But after saying all this I couldn’t make router bits you need specialised 
>> grinding and milling machines for that.
>> 
>> Much easier just to buy them or insert router bits.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Bill
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
>>  On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
>> Sent: Monday, 17 October 2022 9:41 PM
>> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Wow Bill, so your a tool maker too. Now I'm even more impressed. lol
>> 
>> I agree there are plenty of imports that can be as good, if they have good 
>> quality control for sure. 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Kind Regards,
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>> 
>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>> 
>> 14171 160th Ave.
>> 
>> Foreston MN 56330
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> 320-294-5798 shop
>> 
>> 320-630-2243 cell
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 10:48 PM  wrote:
>> 
>> I do remember the silver brazed on bits I used them lots in my days in the 
>> metal trade
>> 
>> And I make them still in my shop they were great when you needed a custom 
>> shape tool
>> 
>> I use used blunt inserts and braze them on to a blank and they work as good 
>> as any insert
>> 
>> Because they are an insert.
>> 
>> Anyway that tool your showing here is only a 2 flute where mine is 3
>> 
>> Because I am poor I would buy the cheaper cutter but buy the high quality 
>> inserts and put in it
>> 
>> Provided they fit, easy wood lathe tool inserts fit in mine and I find them 
>> quite good.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Bill
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
>>  On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
>> Sent: Monday, 17 October 2022 1:09 PM
>> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Well in my opinion and this

Re: bone turning 101 part 4

2022-10-17 Thread 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills

Hi Curt, an off the subject question. How is the best way to go from Shopsmith 
lathe to LOM? And vice versa. If a made device please sent a pic.
Thank you
Denson

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> On Oct 17, 2022, at 1:10 PM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:
> 
> 
> I think it could be done that way for sure, but we are gluing with the tube 
> in the middle 
> so you're better off filling the tube up and then clamping, making sure the 
> tube is slightly shorter
> than the bone, then put the squeeze to it. 
> 
> Kind Regards,
> 
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
> 
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
> 
> 
>> On Mon, Oct 17, 2022 at 7:17 AM  wrote:
>> Can’t you just glue and clamp 2 or 3 disks at a time with the ca glue and 
>> then do 2 or 3 lots of 3 disks and clamp in 2 glue ups you will have a 9 
>> disk long blank one more glue up and clamp you got a 18 disk long blank this 
>> is not my area you and curt are the masters
>> 
>> So does what I’m saying make sense or am I on the wrong track. Its sort of 
>> like how segmented wood lathe blanks are made bit at a time.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Bill
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
>>  On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
>> Sent: Monday, 17 October 2022 9:56 PM
>> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: bone turning 101 part 4
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> thanks Curt and Bill more good information to stimulate creative minds for 
>> sure. 
>> 
>> I'm glad the CA glue is making the "debut" as it's a much better glue for 
>> the application.
>> 
>> Thats pretty much all I use too. Just have to be a bit quicker on the 
>> clamping. 
>> 
>> Kind Regards,
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>> 
>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>> 
>> 14171 160th Ave.
>> 
>> Foreston MN 56330
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> 320-294-5798 shop
>> 
>> 320-630-2243 cell
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> On Mon, Oct 17, 2022 at 1:12 AM  wrote:
>> 
>> https://youtu.be/Pb7rNcOjB7M
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> ok everyone here is Curts latest
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Bill
>> 
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Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5

2022-10-17 Thread 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills

Thanks Bill. The SS does not have a 2MT.
Denson

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> On Oct 17, 2022, at 12:06 PM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:
> 
> 
> Curt can answer that one he does it all the time I don’t have a shop smith
> But if your shopsmith has a number 2 morse taper in its headstock
> Legacys drive hub will fit right in it. That’s what I do in my nova wood lathe
>  
> Bill
>  
> From: 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
>  
> Sent: Tuesday, 18 October 2022 2:59 AM
> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5
>  
> Thank you Bill for the great info for us beginners.
> I’m sure this has been brought up before but how is the best way to go from 
> LOM to Shopsmith lathe or vice versa. And if special made connectors could 
> you send pics?
> Thanks
> Denson
> 
> Sent from Denson's iPhone
> 
> 
> On Oct 17, 2022, at 7:32 AM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:
> 
> 
> I wouldn’t say toolmaker we learnt how to silver braze tips as an apprentice 
> and hand grinding tools for the metal lathe as
> Part of the trade.
> Insertable carbide tips were just becoming popular back then there were no 
> where near the amount of different shapes
> There is now so brazed carbide was still around and in use, recycling used 
> inserts wasn’t the thing much then
> So I could get handfuls of old used inserts which I still have all these 
> years later. insert tools were expensive back then
> So making your own was the logical thing to do I don’t know why it hasn’t 
> become popular in wood turning tools today
> A nice piece of high tensile steel and some old used inserts and you can have 
> a $300 lathe tool it’s a no brainer really.
> But after saying all this I couldn’t make router bits you need specialised 
> grinding and milling machines for that.
> Much easier just to buy them or insert router bits.
>  
> Bill
>  
>  
>  
>  
> From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
>  On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
> Sent: Monday, 17 October 2022 9:41 PM
> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5
>  
> Wow Bill, so your a tool maker too. Now I'm even more impressed. lol
> I agree there are plenty of imports that can be as good, if they have good 
> quality control for sure. 
> 
> Kind Regards,
>  
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>  
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
>  
>  
> On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 10:48 PM  wrote:
> I do remember the silver brazed on bits I used them lots in my days in the 
> metal trade
> And I make them still in my shop they were great when you needed a custom 
> shape tool
> I use used blunt inserts and braze them on to a blank and they work as good 
> as any insert
> Because they are an insert.
> Anyway that tool your showing here is only a 2 flute where mine is 3
> Because I am poor I would buy the cheaper cutter but buy the high quality 
> inserts and put in it
> Provided they fit, easy wood lathe tool inserts fit in mine and I find them 
> quite good.
>  
> Bill
>  
> From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
>  On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
> Sent: Monday, 17 October 2022 1:09 PM
> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5
>  
> Well in my opinion and this will go back a while back on carbide. 
> Brazed on Carbide is not usually as hard of grade, as the inserts. 
> The insert carbide is a better bet and will out last a brazed on but
> at least 4 times as long on just one edge. then you have 3 more edges to 
> change out. But you have to buy a good brand. As the china carbide is
> not as good as other brands.  See link:
> https://www.acmetools.com/freud-spoilboard-surfacing-rabbeting-bit-tm1465/008925135593.html
>  
> Freud's bits are expensive but I tend to favor them, having most of my 
> everyday router bits being freud. 
> 
> Kind Regards,
>  
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>  
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
>  
>  
> On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 8:32 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
>  wrote:
> I agree that one is not badly priced. But what I want it first hand info. 
> Do you OR anyone in this group, think the replicable blades are as good or 
> better then the normal carbide router bit? I would really like to know what 
> you think?
>  
> C.A.G.
>  
> On Sunday, October 16, 2022 at 09:27:03 PM EDT, Tim Ziegler 
>  wrote:
>  
>  
> https://www.amazon.com/Spoilboard-Router-Bit-Carbide-NITO

Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5

2022-10-17 Thread 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills

Thank you Bill for the great info for us beginners.
I’m sure this has been brought up before but how is the best way to go from LOM 
to Shopsmith lathe or vice versa. And if special made connectors could you send 
pics?
Thanks
Denson

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> On Oct 17, 2022, at 7:32 AM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:
> 
> 
> I wouldn’t say toolmaker we learnt how to silver braze tips as an apprentice 
> and hand grinding tools for the metal lathe as
> Part of the trade.
> Insertable carbide tips were just becoming popular back then there were no 
> where near the amount of different shapes
> There is now so brazed carbide was still around and in use, recycling used 
> inserts wasn’t the thing much then
> So I could get handfuls of old used inserts which I still have all these 
> years later. insert tools were expensive back then
> So making your own was the logical thing to do I don’t know why it hasn’t 
> become popular in wood turning tools today
> A nice piece of high tensile steel and some old used inserts and you can have 
> a $300 lathe tool it’s a no brainer really.
> But after saying all this I couldn’t make router bits you need specialised 
> grinding and milling machines for that.
> Much easier just to buy them or insert router bits.
>  
> Bill
>  
>  
>  
>  
> From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
>  On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
> Sent: Monday, 17 October 2022 9:41 PM
> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5
>  
> Wow Bill, so your a tool maker too. Now I'm even more impressed. lol
> I agree there are plenty of imports that can be as good, if they have good 
> quality control for sure. 
> 
> Kind Regards,
>  
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>  
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
>  
>  
> On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 10:48 PM  wrote:
> I do remember the silver brazed on bits I used them lots in my days in the 
> metal trade
> And I make them still in my shop they were great when you needed a custom 
> shape tool
> I use used blunt inserts and braze them on to a blank and they work as good 
> as any insert
> Because they are an insert.
> Anyway that tool your showing here is only a 2 flute where mine is 3
> Because I am poor I would buy the cheaper cutter but buy the high quality 
> inserts and put in it
> Provided they fit, easy wood lathe tool inserts fit in mine and I find them 
> quite good.
>  
> Bill
>  
> From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
>  On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
> Sent: Monday, 17 October 2022 1:09 PM
> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5
>  
> Well in my opinion and this will go back a while back on carbide. 
> Brazed on Carbide is not usually as hard of grade, as the inserts. 
> The insert carbide is a better bet and will out last a brazed on but
> at least 4 times as long on just one edge. then you have 3 more edges to 
> change out. But you have to buy a good brand. As the china carbide is
> not as good as other brands.  See link:
> https://www.acmetools.com/freud-spoilboard-surfacing-rabbeting-bit-tm1465/008925135593.html
>  
> Freud's bits are expensive but I tend to favor them, having most of my 
> everyday router bits being freud. 
> 
> Kind Regards,
>  
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>  
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
>  
>  
> On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 8:32 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
>  wrote:
> I agree that one is not badly priced. But what I want it first hand info. 
> Do you OR anyone in this group, think the replicable blades are as good or 
> better then the normal carbide router bit? I would really like to know what 
> you think?
>  
> C.A.G.
>  
> On Sunday, October 16, 2022 at 09:27:03 PM EDT, Tim Ziegler 
>  wrote:
>  
>  
> https://www.amazon.com/Spoilboard-Router-Bit-Carbide-NITOMAK/dp/B085QGLHB4/ref=sr_1_10?crid=1Y7QN81UFU3J1=3+flute+spoilboard+planing+bit.=1665969834=eyJxc2MiOiIxLjI3IiwicXNhIjoiMC4wMCIsInFzcCI6IjAuMDAifQ%3D%3D=3+flute+spoil+board+planing+bit.%2Caps%2C96=8-10
>  
> They are not that expensive, off brand but looks ok.
> Kind Regards,
>  
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>  
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
>  
>  
> On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 7:25 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
>  wrote:
>  
> I know a few friends who ONLY buy cutters with replacement blades for there 
> CNC Machines.
> But do you feel that this bit worth the price you paid for it? 
>  
> C.A.G.
>  
>  
>  
> On Sunday, October 16, 2022 at 08:15:49 PM EDT,  wrote:
>  
>  
> https://www.carbitool.com.au/product/3-flute-surface-planer/
> 
>  
> 
> this
> 
>  
> 
> Bill
> 
>  
> 
> From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
>  On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
> Sent: Monday, 17 October 2022 10:34 AM
> To:

Re: Bone turning

2022-10-16 Thread 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills

Nice work. You are a quick learner Tim.
Denson

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> On Oct 16, 2022, at 9:31 AM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:
> 
> 
> Thanks Bill. I'll be honest I spend the most time on that one. Though I just 
> ran a job this week on my 1200. 
> That was awesome too. Will post that later. Possibly tomorrow Eve. Will see. 
> 
> Tim
> 
>> On Sat, Oct 15, 2022, 11:56 PM  wrote:
>> Very nice Tim and your hybrid revo is looking good too
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Bill
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
>>  On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
>> Sent: Sunday, 16 October 2022 1:26 PM
>> To: LOM Group ; Tim Ziegler 
>> 
>> Subject: Bone turning
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Hey, just thought I'd share some of the bone I have been turning,
>> 
>> thanks to Curt working with me and teaching me the tricks. 
>> 
>> so of the glued up, then of it turned round on the PM4224 lathe.
>> 
>> Then I did the actual turning on my REVO HYBRID EXT. 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Kind Regards,
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>> 
>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>> 
>> 14171 160th Ave.
>> 
>> Foreston MN 56330
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> 320-294-5798 shop
>> 
>> 320-630-2243 cell
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Re: New here, excited to learn from all ya'll experience and asking about some upgrades to my 1200

2022-10-13 Thread 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills

Welcome to the group
Denson

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> On Oct 13, 2022, at 8:42 AM, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
>  wrote:
> 
> Good morning .
> That is one nice looking machine,  If you shrink down your pix you can put 
> more photos in an e-mail for the group to see.
> Can you take some photo of these parts/problem you talk about. 
> 
> I am sure we can get your machine working at 100% soon. 
> 
> Gota run now. talk to you and all more after work.
> 
> C.A.G.
> 
>> On Thursday, October 13, 2022 at 12:11:45 AM UTC-4 vside...@gmail.com wrote:
>> Hi everyone, I'm very excited to join the group and have been reading some 
>> of your past emails/posts, as well as general history of the Legacy 
>> ornamental mill. 
>> 
>> Bill, thanks for the recent posting of beginner/intro videos, super helpful 
>> and I'm looking forward to firing mine up and trying these techniques. 
>> 
>> A few months ago I was given a brand new 1200, still in boxes. A guy got it 
>> a while ago and then had some health problems and was no longer interested, 
>> so he gave it to me and declined payment only saying he'd love to see it 
>> when it's built. Well, I've finally set it up. Photo attached. 
>> 
>> One issue I've run into is with the elevation base and the support plates 
>> (plastic rectangles). The box included three screw support plates  and one 
>> threaded support plates, instead of two and two of each. As a result, I have 
>> a working elevation screw on one side and a non-working one on the other. I 
>> was thinking of just buying a threaded collar that would fit the screw or 
>> finding a die/tap that would match the screw thread and making a new screw 
>> support plate out of wood or something. Or should I scrap the original 
>> elevation base all together and make something new that works better? 
>> 
>> And on the note of making it work better, I am wondering if ya'll might have 
>> a list for us new folks about general improvements. I saw a post about 
>> replacing the locking shaft collars with actual stop blocks and replacing 
>> the allen wrench cap screw on the elevation brackets with something with a 
>> handle for easier adjustment. Other than that, I haven't found much. 
>> 
>> Not sure if it was standard, but my 1200 came with a double locking collar 
>> and an indexing drive shaft (i think that's what it is). It also came with a 
>> Z-Axis Carriage Assembly to replace the original carrier tray. 
>> 
>> Look forward to learning from you all and seeing all of your projects. 
>> 
>> - Vadim (I'm in California, SF Bay Area)
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Re: Legacy Model 200

2022-10-10 Thread 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills

I’m with you on the out sourcing Bill.
Denson

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> On Oct 10, 2022, at 5:41 AM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:
> 
> 
> Oh I know you can't get big ticket items or even the split nuts etc...
> I just know how companies work. I'm sorry so many are left hanging. 
> No you can not get those items anymore.
> Just try buying Delta parts anymore, that has also went south. 
> On the bright side we have each other and lots of machines coming up
> for sale for parts. 
> I will continue to find parts and help out where I can. 
> 
> Kind Regards,
> 
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
> 
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
> 
> 
> On Sun, Oct 9, 2022 at 10:02 PM  wrote:
>> Really try ordering a z axis, rotary table or a set of 4x gears or a 
>> vertical or horizontal vice, I’m not even sure you can get
>> 
>> Replacement leadscrew nuts I did notice a few gear sets like the .25 and the 
>> 2x were available but is that just
>> 
>> Left over old stock. Sorry buddy I’m not picking on you just my 2 cents 
>> worth on that.if it was my company
>> 
>> I would out source parts for the old machines to a smaller company that way 
>> they could still make a small amount
>> 
>> Of money without having to do a thing and still retain good customer service.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Bill
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
>>  On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
>> Sent: Monday, 10 October 2022 12:40 PM
>> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Legacy Model 200
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Yes I tend to agree we should still have support. 
>> 
>> Though most of the time I call or email I get someone. 
>> 
>> Kind Regards,
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>> 
>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>> 
>> 14171 160th Ave.
>> 
>> Foreston MN 56330
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> 320-294-5798 shop
>> 
>> 320-630-2243 cell
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> On Sun, Oct 9, 2022 at 8:15 PM Jeff Richmond  wrote:
>> 
>> Agreed. Some spent a good amount of money on these tools only to have them 
>> obsoleted and unsupported. 
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Jeff from Connecticut 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Oct 9, 2022, at 3:29 PM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Yes but it would have been nice if they remember their roots and supported 
>> their older machines better even if it was only parts made to order
>> 
>> They even took down from the internet all the old instructional videos 
>> anyone getting the older mill can’t learn how to use it.
>> 
>> This is why this group must survive or the mills will just fade away.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Bill
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
>>  On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
>> Sent: Monday, 10 October 2022 3:05 AM
>> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Legacy Model 200
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Yeah but their big goal was to get into the CnC game. They would have gone 
>> bankrupt if they didn't. 
>> 
>> So from a business aspect we have to look at that. 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Kind Regards,
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>> 
>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>> 
>> 14171 160th Ave.
>> 
>> Foreston MN 56330
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> 320-294-5798 shop
>> 
>> 320-630-2243 cell
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> On Sun, Oct 9, 2022 at 3:11 AM  wrote:
>> 
>> It seems no matter what model they make sooner or later they dump it lol
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Bill
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
>>  
>> Sent: Sunday, 9 October 2022 3:04 PM
>> To: Legacy Ornamental Mills 
>> Subject: Re: Legacy Model 200
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Hello Denson
>> 
>> Legacy did not sell this little machine for long,  It was made due to Beall 
>> company, making there own version of a Ornamental mill, called the Pen 
>> Wizard.
>> 
>> Legacy thought they could tap into the Pen turning world and make a better 
>> machine then the Pen Wizard.  Sadly it did not ketch on fast enough, and 
>> make the money
>> 
>> Legacy wanted, so they dumped it. Pretty much like they did for all there 
>> Manual machines a short time latter and went 100% CNC.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Have a good night.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> C.A.G.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> On Saturday, October 8, 2022 at 8:52:42 PM UTC-4 dens...@yahoo.com wrote:
>> 
>> Great Curt this is the first 200 I’ve seen. Thanks for the pics.
>> 
>> Denson 
>> 
>> Sent from Denson's iPhone
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> On Oct 8, 2022, at 6:25 PM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Yup and judging by the background you gave up your couch lol. Just kidding 
>> of course. 
>> 
>> Kind Regards,
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>> 
>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>> 
>> 14171 160th Ave.
>> 
>> Foreston MN 56330
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> 320-294-5798 shop
>> 
>> 320-630-2243 cell
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> On Sat, Oct 8, 2022 at 4:23 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Everyone.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> I have a new toy!  A Legacy Model 200. (thanks to both Jeff who found it for 
>> me, and Tim, who egged be to buy it.) 
>> 
>>

Re: beginners videos

2022-10-10 Thread 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills

You guys are great, innovative and craftsmen all.
Thanks for all the great info.
Denson

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> On Oct 9, 2022, at 9:32 PM, M.W.Foscue  wrote:
> 
> 
> Bill,
>  
> Really nice.
> My favorite is the first photo (1.jpg)
>  
> Thanks for sharing.
> Mac
> -Original Message-
> From: 
> Sent: Oct 9, 2022 5:39 AM
> To: 
> Subject: RE: beginners videos
> 
>  
>  
> 
>  
> 
> Fooling around today with the teaching spirals and some old ball spirals
> 
> I’m thinking of entering some of them in this year’s Christmas ornament 
> challenge what do you all think
> 
> Any worth entering?
> 
>  
> 
> Bill
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: 
> Sent: Oct 8, 2022 7:33 PM
> To: 
> Subject: Re: beginners videos
> 
>  
> Thanks Bill we still love you. 
> 
> Kind Regards,
> 
>  
> 
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> 
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 
> 14171 160th Ave.
> 
> Foreston MN 56330
> 
>  
> 
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 
> 320-630-2243 cell
> 
>  
> 
> On Sat, Oct 8, 2022 at 5:20 PM  wrote:
> 
> Hey guys I’m sorry I just was informed that the phrase dumb it down for you 
> guys can be an insult my apologies here down under
> 
> Its slang for simplifying somthing so please forgive an old aussi for any 
> offence it’s just a difference in our cultures like here a bum is not a 
> homeless person it’s a person’s butt lol
> 
>  
> 
> Bill
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> From: 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
>  
> Sent: Sunday, 9 October 2022 5:25 AM
> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: beginners videos
> 
>  
> 
> Lol thanks Curt.
> 
> Denson
> 
> Sent from Denson's iPhone
> 
>  
> 
> On Oct 8, 2022, at 1:01 PM, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
>  wrote:
> 
>  
> 
> Hey Denson.   
> 
>  
> 
> As a General rule of thumb, the Advanced, is just a re-fine meant of the 
> basics. Principles are the same, is just a matter of when and ware you use 
> them. ;-)
> 
>  
> 
> Almost nothing is hard once you know how to do it.
> 
>  
> 
> C.A.G.
> 
>  
> 
> On Saturday, October 8, 2022 at 11:30:27 AM EDT, 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy 
> Ornamental Mills  wrote:
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> Thanks Bill this novice needs all the help he can get.
> 
> Denson
> 
> Sent from Denson's iPhone
> 
>  
> 
> On Oct 8, 2022, at 2:34 AM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:
> 
>  
> 
> Thanks buddy so you could follow it all ok? Its hard for me to dumb it down 
> so new people can understand them
> 
> I take so many short cuts and use mods on the mill I take it as the norm lol. 
> I want these videos
> 
> To be a reference legacy beginners can use to do their own projects and then 
> post them here.
> 
>  
> 
> Bill
> 
>  
> 
> From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
>  On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
> Sent: Saturday, 8 October 2022 1:18 PM
> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: beginners videos
> 
>  
> 
> Very good Bill, 
> 
> I am certain there should be a good bit of information there to get the 
> novices going for sure. 
> 
> I enjoyed the content and detail as well. 
> 
> Good job on both. Hard to stay away to the "Love Boat" song lol. 
> 
> Thanks for putting them together I think I learned a lot and look forward to 
> seeing what other
> 
> tricks I can learn.
> 
>  
> 
> Kind Regards,
> 
>  
> 
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> 
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 
> 14171 160th Ave.
> 
> Foreston MN 56330
> 
>  
> 
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 
> 320-630-2243 cell
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> On Fri, Oct 7, 2022 at 9:33 AM  wrote:
> 
> Ok here are 2 more videos 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S4b-j9ZCE5E_channel=aussiman77181
> 
>  
> 
> Milling a 3 start rope spiral and 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QYAFmvMZcKU_channel=aussiman77181
> 
>  
> 
> Milling a diamond or pineapple pattern  I just hope all you newbees out there 
> can follow how I do this stuff
> 
> I’m not the best at it but at least there is something out there now  to see 
> how this stuff is done it may not be the
> 
> Correct way but its my way done as simple as I can
> 
>  
> 
> Bill
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Re: Bone Ring turning

2022-10-09 Thread 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills

Good job Tim!!
Denson

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> On Oct 9, 2022, at 6:36 AM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:
> 
> 
> Yes sir thats exactly my thoughts Mike. 2 great minds thinking alike. 
> Kind Regards,
> 
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
> 
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
> 
> 
>> On Sat, Oct 8, 2022 at 11:01 PM Okla Mike (Liltwisted) 
>>  wrote:
>> I hope you have plans to laser it.
>> 
>> On 10/8/2022 10:45 PM, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills wrote:
>>> Cant wait to see the finished ring.
>>> 
>>> C.A.G.
>>> 
>>> On Saturday, October 8, 2022 at 10:37:54 PM EDT, Tim Ziegler 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> thanks yup good start, should have finished but the forum was busy so 
>>> figured I better jump on too. 
>>> Kind Regards,
>>> 
>>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>>> 14171 160th Ave.
>>> Foreston MN 56330
>>> 
>>> 320-294-5798 shop
>>> 320-630-2243 cell
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Sat, Oct 8, 2022 at 9:16 PM  wrote:
>>> Looks good so far Tim
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Bill
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
>>>  On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
>>> Sent: Sunday, 9 October 2022 1:00 PM
>>> To: LOM Group ; Tim Ziegler 
>>> 
>>> Subject: Bone Ring turning
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Ok so I got a good start on this tonight, and thought I'd show you 
>>> 
>>> where I am at with it. 
>>> 
>>> I took a 1 1/8 diamond hole saw and cut a blank, then chucked it up in a 
>>> 
>>> collet chuck on the lathe, faced off one side then drilled with a 5/8 bit. 
>>> 
>>> then I put my boring bar on and bored it out to exactly .750 which is my 
>>> daughters ring size which is a 9. 
>>> 
>>> Then I chucked it up on my ring mandrel and started turning it. I will 
>>> actually 
>>> 
>>> change to an expansion mandrel tomorrow to finish it. 
>>> 
>>> See pix of progress.
>>> 
>>> I actually bought the boring bar for wood rings which I will be doing 
>>> shortly too. 
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Kind Regards,
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>>> 
>>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>>> 
>>> 14171 160th Ave.
>>> 
>>> Foreston MN 56330
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> 320-294-5798 shop
>>> 
>>> 320-630-2243 cell
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Re: Legacy Model 200

2022-10-09 Thread 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills

Thanks Curt good info. Also I watched all 3 videos on bone turning 101.  Good 
videos and great info.
Thanks
Denson

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> On Oct 8, 2022, at 11:03 PM, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hello Denson
> Legacy did not sell this little machine for long,  It was made due to Beall 
> company, making there own version of a Ornamental mill, called the Pen Wizard.
> Legacy thought they could tap into the Pen turning world and make a better 
> machine then the Pen Wizard.  Sadly it did not ketch on fast enough, and make 
> the money
> Legacy wanted, so they dumped it. Pretty much like they did for all there 
> Manual machines a short time latter and went 100% CNC.
> 
> Have a good night.
> 
> C.A.G.
> 
> 
>> On Saturday, October 8, 2022 at 8:52:42 PM UTC-4 dens...@yahoo.com wrote:
>> Great Curt this is the first 200 I’ve seen. Thanks for the pics.
>> Denson 
>> 
>> Sent from Denson's iPhone
>> 
 On Oct 8, 2022, at 6:25 PM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:
 
>>> 
>> 
>>> Yup and judging by the background you gave up your couch lol. Just kidding 
>>> of course. 
>>> Kind Regards,
>>> 
>>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>>> 14171 160th Ave.
>>> Foreston MN 56330
>>> 
>>> 320-294-5798 shop
>>> 320-630-2243 cell
>>> 
>>> 
 On Sat, Oct 8, 2022 at 4:23 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
  wrote:
 Hello Everyone.
 
 I have a new toy!  A Legacy Model 200. (thanks to both Jeff who found it 
 for me, and Tim, who egged be to buy it.) 
 For most of the "Old Timers" here, I let everyone know that I was looking 
 for a 200 for appx. 5 yrs. (perhaps more?) ( I am Very bad with TIME, 5 
 yrs. could any time up to 15yrs for me.)  I tried to buy one form Legacy a 
 few years back, and they stopped selling them, so I ended up buying some 
 parts form a 200, but not the machine its self.
 
 I am very happy with this new tool !  I am so looking forward to using it 
 in my shop, in the very near future.   And before you ask, "YES" it will 
 be modified (slightly) form its original design. But I know it will serve 
 me well for many years to come. ;-)
 
 More latter.
 
 P.S.
 It even came with a router motor and one bit, that I do not already own. 
 ;-)
 
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Re: Bone turning 101 Part 3 is here.

2022-10-08 Thread 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills

Yes Mike you could end up with a bone in your nose. Ok ok I’m sorry I’ll show 
myself out. 
Denson

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> On Oct 8, 2022, at 6:26 PM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:
> 
> 
> Will have to see what we can do Bill
> Kind Regards,
> 
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
> 
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
> 
> 
>> On Sat, Oct 8, 2022 at 4:44 PM  wrote:
>> Yea now that I would like to see, maybe I can get one of you guys to
>> 
>> Send me over a couple of bone blanks and I can mill my self a couple
>> 
>> Of pens
>> 
>> Bill
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
>>  On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
>> Sent: Saturday, 8 October 2022 9:39 PM
>> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Bone turning 101 Part 3 is here.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Hey Bill and all,
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Thats actually one of the things I want to turn is a pen as well. I'm pretty 
>> sure Curt will too. 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Kind Regards,
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>> 
>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>> 
>> 14171 160th Ave.
>> 
>> Foreston MN 56330
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> 320-294-5798 shop
>> 
>> 320-630-2243 cell
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> On Sat, Oct 8, 2022 at 2:26 AM  wrote:
>> 
>> I would say there is a whole group of people out there that are into bone 
>> turning , I would have a try too but I don’t have that lovely
>> 
>> Source to get bone you have but it is nice to see the beautiful magnify 
>> glass handles you make out of it
>> 
>> And its done on the legacy so that makes it qualify to be on our group. I 
>> must admit I thought the pen turners would
>> 
>> Have been interested in it, a nice spiral pen made of bone I would do one.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Bill
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
>>  
>> Sent: Saturday, 8 October 2022 3:25 PM
>> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Bone turning 101 Part 3 is here.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Hello Everyone.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Thank you Jeff and Bill.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> I am finding that this process is, Enjoyable for me.  I like the look and 
>> the feel of the bone handles when they are in my hands. And it is something 
>> that not a lot of people do.  I can understand, when people say its not 
>> there thing.(like you did Jeff.) That's OK with me.  I just want to share 
>> with I have learned. Hoping others may also want to try using bone.  AND Or 
>> perhaps some of the process in one of there own projects?
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> I get a number of private e-mails on the topic, but sadly not here in the 
>> LOM group.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> So like I said earlier, Perhaps its time to start exploring new ventures, in 
>> the hope of getting more people looking into the Best ways to get the most 
>> out of our Legacy machines. (after all that is, and has always been OUR Goal 
>> with this group.)
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> talk to you and all more latter.
>> 
>> Have a good night.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> C.A.G. 
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> On Friday, October 7, 2022 at 01:08:26 PM EDT, Jeff Richmond 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Thanks Curt for taking the time to document your process of bone turning. 
>> You certainly have made various refinements as you learned what works for 
>> you based on the various discussions I have seen from the group..
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> I do not have any specific feedback as I have been extra busy this week 
>> moving my daughter but I will be sure to check it your videos in their 
>> entirety soon even though bone turning is not my thing. 路‍♂️
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Jeff from Connecticut 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> On Oct 7, 2022, at 8:23 AM, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Thank you both (Tim and Bill)
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> We have over 500 members in this group. If no-one wants to talk about a 
>> topic, I think its time to switch to another topic that the Group wants to 
>> explore.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> For those who want to follow this topic more, Just let me know. (I am not 
>> going to stop doing what I enjoy, But perhaps its just time to move on ,to 
>> something new.)  So What I am saying is, This topic is NOT dead, perhaps it 
>> just time for this topic, to take a nap and or just stay quite for a while 
>> so we can look at something new?  
>> 
>> If anyone wants to look at Bone turning more, You can Either post something 
>> here on LOM or to me, in a private E-mail.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Have a good day everyone.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> C.A.G.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> On Friday, October 7, 2022 at 06:39:11 AM EDT, Tim Ziegler 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Hey Curt,
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Sorry, I have only briefly watched it and need to watch it again. We worked 
>> late until 10:00 pm 2 nights this week and 
>> 
>> again out late last night getting ready for our final show, lasering and 
>> loading. Was not much day left. Today is the show
>> 
>> and will be a long day. I will rewatch it tonight and see what questions and 
>> comments I may have.

Re: Legacy Model 200

2022-10-08 Thread 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills

Great Curt this is the first 200 I’ve seen. Thanks for the pics.
Denson 

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> On Oct 8, 2022, at 6:25 PM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:
> 
> 
> Yup and judging by the background you gave up your couch lol. Just kidding of 
> course. 
> Kind Regards,
> 
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
> 
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
> 
> 
>> On Sat, Oct 8, 2022 at 4:23 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
>>  wrote:
>> Hello Everyone.
>> 
>> I have a new toy!  A Legacy Model 200. (thanks to both Jeff who found it for 
>> me, and Tim, who egged be to buy it.) 
>> For most of the "Old Timers" here, I let everyone know that I was looking 
>> for a 200 for appx. 5 yrs. (perhaps more?) ( I am Very bad with TIME, 5 yrs. 
>> could any time up to 15yrs for me.)  I tried to buy one form Legacy a few 
>> years back, and they stopped selling them, so I ended up buying some parts 
>> form a 200, but not the machine its self.
>> 
>> I am very happy with this new tool !  I am so looking forward to using it in 
>> my shop, in the very near future.   And before you ask, "YES" it will be 
>> modified (slightly) form its original design. But I know it will serve me 
>> well for many years to come. ;-)
>> 
>> More latter.
>> 
>> P.S.
>> It even came with a router motor and one bit, that I do not already own. ;-)
>> 
>> C.A.G.
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Re: beginners videos

2022-10-08 Thread 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills

Thanks Tim
Denson

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> On Oct 8, 2022, at 6:33 PM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:
> 
> 
> Thanks Bill we still love you. 
> Kind Regards,
> 
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
> 
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
> 
> 
>> On Sat, Oct 8, 2022 at 5:20 PM  wrote:
>> Hey guys I’m sorry I just was informed that the phrase dumb it down for you 
>> guys can be an insult my apologies here down under
>> 
>> Its slang for simplifying somthing so please forgive an old aussi for any 
>> offence it’s just a difference in our cultures like here a bum is not a 
>> homeless person it’s a person’s butt lol
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Bill
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> From: 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
>>  
>> Sent: Sunday, 9 October 2022 5:25 AM
>> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: beginners videos
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Lol thanks Curt.
>> 
>> Denson
>> 
>> Sent from Denson's iPhone
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Oct 8, 2022, at 1:01 PM, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Hey Denson.   
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> As a General rule of thumb, the Advanced, is just a re-fine meant of the 
>> basics. Principles are the same, is just a matter of when and ware you use 
>> them. ;-)
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Almost nothing is hard once you know how to do it.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> C.A.G.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> On Saturday, October 8, 2022 at 11:30:27 AM EDT, 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy 
>> Ornamental Mills  wrote:
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Thanks Bill this novice needs all the help he can get.
>> 
>> Denson
>> 
>> Sent from Denson's iPhone
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Oct 8, 2022, at 2:34 AM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks buddy so you could follow it all ok? Its hard for me to dumb it down 
>> so new people can understand them
>> 
>> I take so many short cuts and use mods on the mill I take it as the norm 
>> lol. I want these videos
>> 
>> To be a reference legacy beginners can use to do their own projects and then 
>> post them here.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Bill
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
>>  On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
>> Sent: Saturday, 8 October 2022 1:18 PM
>> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: beginners videos
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Very good Bill, 
>> 
>> I am certain there should be a good bit of information there to get the 
>> novices going for sure. 
>> 
>> I enjoyed the content and detail as well. 
>> 
>> Good job on both. Hard to stay away to the "Love Boat" song lol. 
>> 
>> Thanks for putting them together I think I learned a lot and look forward to 
>> seeing what other
>> 
>> tricks I can learn.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Kind Regards,
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>> 
>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>> 
>> 14171 160th Ave.
>> 
>> Foreston MN 56330
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> 320-294-5798 shop
>> 
>> 320-630-2243 cell
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> On Fri, Oct 7, 2022 at 9:33 AM  wrote:
>> 
>> Ok here are 2 more videos 
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S4b-j9ZCE5E_channel=aussiman77181
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Milling a 3 start rope spiral and 
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QYAFmvMZcKU_channel=aussiman77181
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Milling a diamond or pineapple pattern  I just hope all you newbees out 
>> there can follow how I do this stuff
>> 
>> I’m not the best at it but at least there is something out there now  to see 
>> how this stuff is done it may not be the
>> 
>> Correct way but its my way done as simple as I can
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Bill
>> 
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Re: beginners videos

2022-10-08 Thread 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills

No worries mate!!
No offense taken. Knew exactly what you meant.
Denson

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> On Oct 8, 2022, at 6:21 PM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:
> 
> 
> Yeah Denson, I still go to the guru's too when I have a question. 
> Bill, Mike and Curt all have had their share of mentoring me in the LOM
> world, and I am still learning. 
> 
> Kind Regards,
> 
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
> 
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
> 
> 
>> On Sat, Oct 8, 2022 at 10:30 AM 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
>>  wrote:
>> Thanks Bill this novice needs all the help he can get.
>> Denson
>> 
>> Sent from Denson's iPhone
>> 
>>>> On Oct 8, 2022, at 2:34 AM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> Thanks buddy so you could follow it all ok? Its hard for me to dumb it down 
>>> so new people can understand them
>>> 
>>> I take so many short cuts and use mods on the mill I take it as the norm 
>>> lol. I want these videos
>>> 
>>> To be a reference legacy beginners can use to do their own projects and 
>>> then post them here.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Bill
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
>>>  On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
>>> Sent: Saturday, 8 October 2022 1:18 PM
>>> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: beginners videos
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Very good Bill, 
>>> 
>>> I am certain there should be a good bit of information there to get the 
>>> novices going for sure. 
>>> 
>>> I enjoyed the content and detail as well. 
>>> 
>>> Good job on both. Hard to stay away to the "Love Boat" song lol. 
>>> 
>>> Thanks for putting them together I think I learned a lot and look forward 
>>> to seeing what other
>>> 
>>> tricks I can learn.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Kind Regards,
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>>> 
>>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>>> 
>>> 14171 160th Ave.
>>> 
>>> Foreston MN 56330
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> 320-294-5798 shop
>>> 
>>> 320-630-2243 cell
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> On Fri, Oct 7, 2022 at 9:33 AM  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Ok here are 2 more videos 
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S4b-j9ZCE5E_channel=aussiman77181
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Milling a 3 start rope spiral and 
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QYAFmvMZcKU_channel=aussiman77181
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Milling a diamond or pineapple pattern  I just hope all you newbees out 
>>> there can follow how I do this stuff
>>> 
>>> I’m not the best at it but at least there is something out there now  to 
>>> see how this stuff is done it may not be the
>>> 
>>> Correct way but its my way done as simple as I can
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Bill
>>> 
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Re: beginners videos

2022-10-08 Thread 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills

Lol thanks Curt.
Denson

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> On Oct 8, 2022, at 1:01 PM, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hey Denson.   
> 
> As a General rule of thumb, the Advanced, is just a re-fine meant of the 
> basics. Principles are the same, is just a matter of when and ware you use 
> them. ;-)
> 
> Almost nothing is hard once you know how to do it.
> 
> C.A.G.
> 
>> On Saturday, October 8, 2022 at 11:30:27 AM EDT, 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy 
>> Ornamental Mills  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks Bill this novice needs all the help he can get.
>> Denson
>> 
>> Sent from Denson's iPhone
>> 
>>> On Oct 8, 2022, at 2:34 AM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:
>>> 
>> 
> 
> Thanks buddy so you could follow it all ok? Its hard for me to dumb it down 
> so new people can understand them
> I take so many short cuts and use mods on the mill I take it as the norm lol. 
> I want these videos
> To be a reference legacy beginners can use to do their own projects and then 
> post them here.
>  
> Bill
>  
> From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
>  On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
> Sent: Saturday, 8 October 2022 1:18 PM
> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: beginners videos
>  
> Very good Bill, 
> I am certain there should be a good bit of information there to get the 
> novices going for sure. 
> I enjoyed the content and detail as well. 
> Good job on both. Hard to stay away to the "Love Boat" song lol. 
> Thanks for putting them together I think I learned a lot and look forward to 
> seeing what other
> tricks I can learn.
> 
> Kind Regards,
>  
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>  
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
>  
>  
> On Fri, Oct 7, 2022 at 9:33 AM  wrote:
> Ok here are 2 more videos 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S4b-j9ZCE5E_channel=aussiman77181
>  
> Milling a 3 start rope spiral and 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QYAFmvMZcKU_channel=aussiman77181
>  
> Milling a diamond or pineapple pattern  I just hope all you newbees out there 
> can follow how I do this stuff
> I’m not the best at it but at least there is something out there now  to see 
> how this stuff is done it may not be the
> Correct way but its my way done as simple as I can
>  
> Bill
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