On 2015/03/26 07:33 AM, David Abernathy wrote:
Why are you sdding her as a new person?
'Cos she probably isn't already in the file!
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Dean,
If you know her maiden name then you will want to enter her under that. You
always use a woman’s maiden name.
If you don’t know her maiden name (for example, you have a marriage record that
shows John Doe married a Mrs. Jane White but you don’t know what her maiden
name was) then I
I tried to modify [leDate] to [Date] in events sentences using Event -
Sentence Override in Search and Replace.
Result = no modifications whatsoever.
Georges
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De : Gordon Small
Date : 2015-03-26 08:02:06
A : legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sujet : Re:
I used Legacy Search and Replace once. It caused me no end of grief. After
that experience whenever I needed to I would load my fdb into MS Access to
do major Search Replace activity. It's much easier, finds things more
reliably and I can see all the records that will be affected. And if I
recall
Barton,
You said you got this obit from a library. Was it in a print newspaper? Was
it on microfilm? Were you using the library’s subscription to one of the
online newspaper repository? It makes a difference.
Michele
Technical Support
mailto:mich...@legacyfamilytree.com
Ward,
I also use TNG and export a gedcom from Legacy.
I use the Export to Gedcom, but where the first window has a selection for
type: I leave that as for Legacy.
It will use standard 5.5 rules but include much more info.
I customize the contents by blocking data for LDS and To-Do notes, then in
John in regards to
you said
User could add custom event that reports the status. But that would need
to be added by user every time they did an upload.
that is not correct.
As an old user I had a custom event for Adoption and still have a few
stragglers left.
They get exported just fine and tng
Hi Cathy
To make sure we are talking about the same thing, I know I can modify
individual sentences like [IlElle] [=a::a:::ont] résidé à [Desc] [leDate].
any way I want.
I am simply trying to modify en bloc the [leDate] of all the sentences to
[Date] rather than do it manually for each of the
And ALWAYS do a backup before extensive Search Replace!
Bob Hansen
On Mar 26, 2015, at 23:19, Cathy Pinner genea...@gmail.com wrote:
Were you trying to Search and Replace in Sentence Overrides or in the Event
Sentence Definitions?
You certainly can't Search and Replace on the Actual
Hope you're feeling better, Geoff.
I was able to view this webinar, but not to access the 4-page syllabus that was
mentioned during it. Coincidentally, the following pop-up showed up on the
first screen of the webinar:
'There seems to be a problem accessing certain features of this video.
I dont use shared events nor do I want to at this point as then Legacy
cannot be used by LTools
I sure hope that there will be a concensus amoungst the genealogy software
makers on a standard,
but until that happens you RISK fouling up any data export/ imports unless
the source or destination are
To each his own I use Unknown Unknown,
because I was way too frustrated with receiving gedcoms from people where
wifes given name was in the surname field.
I still get them but at least I know data I send out will never get MANGLED
up.
Jay
On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 3:47 PM, Boyd Miller
John,
OK you are doing the same as myself,
but that isnt anywear close to what inference is suggested by the phrase
multiple people to work on a single
copy
I have about 400 users and change an average of 2200 persons a week.
Thanks
Jay
On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 3:42 PM, John B. Lisle
Thank you for the explanation John!
In a message dated 3/26/2015 12:30:50 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
leg...@johnlisle.com writes:
Mike,
TNG (http://lythgoes.net/genealogy/software.php) is a popular web
based genealogy program and web publishing application.
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Thank you for the input Donald.
Mike
In a message dated 3/26/2015 11:48:00 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
dwquig...@cox.net writes:
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Were you trying to Search and Replace in Sentence Overrides or in the
Event Sentence Definitions?
You certainly can't Search and Replace on the Actual Sentence
Definitions - something I'd like to be able to do but currently isn't
available in the options for Search and Replace.
I rarely use
John,
I know for a fact that if you paste the ancestry URL for a census page into
the details of a Source note
it WILL properly display on a TNG website with a working link to the page.
(Remember however the visitor must still be an ancestry member to view
those pages, if not they will be
Barton,
Your citation looks fine then. To address your questions, there will be a
title even if it is only “Obituaries” each section of the paper has a title.
Here is an example:
Births, Hattiesburg American, 11 August 1971, p. 29, col. 4; digital images,
NewspaperArchive
Thanks Cathy, I responded before I saw your reply.
Jerry
On 3/24/2015 8:30 PM, Cathy Pinner wrote:
I think you could if you zipped the files and sent the zip file to
Dropbox or Google Drive and the other person downloaded the zip and
unzipped them.
Cathy
Brian L. Lightfoot wrote:
I
I think Barton is correct in thinking that the name of the state should go
in the citation if the city is not known. To follow EE precisely it would
be Troy (New York) Daily News. Using the place field in Legacy produces
(New York) Troy Daily News, which is probably close enough. Repeating the
John,
Just remember, if you upload your Legacy data to Ancestry, the data in
Ancestry won't be changed as you add or edit in Legacy. You will have
to keep the Ancestry site updated manually as you update Legacy.
You can also create web pages in Legacy and upload them to a server. I
recommend
Previously Brian you wrote:
Actually there is a third means of getting your Legacy created web
pages out. After the creation process completes in Legacy, simply burn
the entire web contents to a DVD and send a copy to your friends and
relatives. All they have to do is point their browser to the
The reason I asked is because Darrin advised me against using GEDCOM 5.5.1.
Perhaps the problem some experience comes from not using the Legacy GEDCOM,
thinking it is for use with Legacy only.
CE
Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2015 00:16:18 -0400
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
From:
Mike,
TNG (http://lythgoes.net/genealogy/software.php) is a popular web
based genealogy program and web publishing application.
As a genealogy program, it allows multiple people to work on a single
copy of a genealogy as the database is on a web site. But more
importantly, it is, in my humble
John,
I was merely explaining to Dean the way I do it. Other than always recording a
maiden name if you have it the rest is up to personal preference.
The only time you will see Mrs. in my file is if I don’t know the woman’s first
name AND I don’t know the woman’s maiden name. (and I did
Michele,
I was also explaining how I do it and what I see
are the risks in some of the other approaches.
Please excuse me if I consider putting the word
Unknown of Unk as a surname or a given name
to be a poor practice. When sharing your
genealogy on a web site, even an Ancestry tree,
there is a
CE,
I cannot speak to what Gedcom 5.5.1 exports do not include, but I have
been using Legacy style Gedcoms with my TNG imports for over 10 years.
This problem would not get better by using a different style of Gedcom.
As I said earlier, Legacy treats child status as family issue and not an
Dito Eliz
Hanebury - personal experience on my part, no an uploaded GEDCOM
with photo, Census citations etc will not be linked on
Ancestry.com Often you will even get a Source labeled:
Unsourced Citation. Depending what information you include in
Depending on how many changes you have made since the last backup before
you accidentally deleted this person you can:
1. If you made few changes which you can quickly reenter, just restore
from that backup then reënter the changes you made.
2. If you have made a lot of changes you can restore
John,
I replied to a similar question a month or so ago. I currently distribute
the shared events to all participants by taking the GEDCOM exported from Legacy
and modifying it in an Excel spreadsheet using VBA code I prepared. Takes
about 20 min to process my 3700-person family tree, with a
Michele,
Of course, the primary name for a woman should be her maiden name. When
you knowingly record her name as her surname as (one of) her married name
and then publish your data, you forever create a confusion for other
researchers as to who she is/was.
When I see a genealogy and see John
John - See my responses below.
Donald Quigley
Escondido, CA
Quigley Doyle Family Tree
http://www.donquigley.net
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Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2015 4:00 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG]
John - My responses are below.
Donald Quigley
Escondido, CA
Quigley Doyle Family Tree
http://www.donquigley.net
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From: John B. Lisle [mailto:leg...@johnlisle.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2015 3:24 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] TNG and
They sent me a hard copy which they printed from microfilm. That's why
I used the template newspapers - print editions (microfilm or
original).
Barton
On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 08:27 AM, Michele/Support wrote:
Barton,
You said you got this obit from a library. Was it in a print
Cathy and Don used the following initials: TNG.
They stand for what
My search came up with Star Trek The Next Generation
Thanks,
Mike McDermott, San Jose, CA
In a message dated 3/25/2015 8:29:35 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
genea...@gmail.com writes:
I understand that TNG has no problem
John,
After further review, I am not so sure this is as critical of an issue (for
me)
As noted in other messg on this thread, Legacy does export and TNG does
properly import the Child Relationship status.
Thats good enough for me.
In a quick search for persons where Child Status = Adopted and
John,
I never put the word unknown in the given or in the surname fields (I agree
with you. I don't think the word unknown belongs in these fields). I just
leave the person completely blank. Even with no spouse entered at all I can
still attach children to the relationship.
I do a one-name
Ward,
Legacy Gedcoms are a superset of Ged 5.5. I did my testing almost 10
years ago and determined then that Legacy Geds were the way to go. I do
not recall which specific features it adds, but there were some specific
features added. BTW, you can export the tags, and TNG can display them,
but
Legacy TNG Users,
How are you handling your shared events when you export your Gedcom
for TNG? Is it important for you to have your Shared event displayed
on your TNG web site?
Currently, TNG does not support importing shared events even though
both Legacy 8 and Roots Magic export shared events
I am a recent TNG user. I have been using the GEDCOM 5.5.1 option for export
from Legacy, because the TNG documentation implied that GEDCOM 5.5 was required.
Is the option to export for Legacy simply a superset of the 5.5.1 option? What
would it give me that I don’t already have? (The
Nancy,
I looked at the EE examples again and what I didn’t notice the first time was
the name of the state was actually in the name of the paper so that would
explain why it was left out in the example.
I am going to take a closer look at the template to see if it needs to be
revised :)
you can't actually delete an ancestry.com tree once it is created.
I do not believe that is true.
Just go to your tree, click on Tree Pages - Tree Settings, and choose the
Delete your tree link on the bottom right.
On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 4:17 PM, Elizabeth Verchio
John,
I also use TNG, but I have yet to figure out how to let multiple people to
work on a single
copy if the Admin is regularly uploading a complete new gedcom.
Do you have a solution for getting TNG additions by other Users back to the
Admins Legacy database?
That would be something MANY
Jay,
As you well know, there are two ways to operate with TNG. As a cloud
based application or as a web publisher with editing done on desktop.
There are no tools in TNG to export changes since some date in a Gedcom
that can be downloaded and imported into Legacy to sync your desktop
Don,
Just because you have a workaround, does not mean that direct support
by TNG should not be done in the future.
But there is 2 immediate problems I would see with this and one
potential problem
1/ If we become dependent on this, how can we be sure that you are
available to maintain it while
Jay,
The child status triggers placing the status in the child list in Family
view and adding it to some of the reports. This is useful for Adoption,
but it is more interesting for Stillborn or Twin status. Child Status or
birth notes are only alternative ways or reporting these status in
I agree, I would not use Unknown for a field where I want to show that
there should be a person. In the absence of a name Legacy introduces
Unknown all by itself into too many situations - Unknown-Unknown
marriages for example.
If a name is not know I put not known (in lower case and without the
Don,
I went back and looked at you January message on this subject.
1/ I have asked several times for Legacy to have a shared events
export option to do this automatically. You should suggest it at
http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/Suggest.asp
This would the best way to handle it. Even if TNG
Sorry just a test to see if this email gets through. Am subbed to the
list but not getting anything.
Noelene
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On Fri, Mar 27, 2015 at 1:44 PM, Noelene Jenkinson nmj1...@tpg.com.au
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Michele, the template I used (obituaries newspapers print editions
(microfilm or original) has a field for state but it doesn’t seem to work.
Maybe it’s just better to do what Nancy pointed out Shown Mills does, and list
the state when it’s not part of the newspaper name (as in Burlingame
Michele, in your reply below, you show what the cite looks like if you include
the repository. But checking “repository” in the Descendant Book Report gave a
different format than yours as follows:
“Donna P. Kennedy,” Troy Daily News, 3 Nov 1987, p. 5. Repository: Troy-Miami
County Public
Hi Nancy, I’m not sure I follow everything you’re saying but suffice to say
that your reply is a perfect illustration of why we need to include the state –
you assumed it was Troy, New York, but it’s actually Troy, Ohio. The source
template I used has a field for city and state, but, as you
I suggest you do your *ged upload now - using a very small tree for
practice - and use see if you can leave a link live. I am not sure you
can. What you can do is save to your ancestry tree and people can
view the census from there. When you figure out if you can leave the
link then delete your
You can restore from your backup.
On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 10:50 AM, Priscilla Glasow
priscilla.gla...@gmail.com wrote:
I inadvertently deleted a person. How can I retrieve him (and all my
work!)?
I dearly hope someone has an idea as re-entering all of his information
will be
Good morning everyone.
My question concerns the correct way to enter the location of a specific Census
page into Legacy 8
as it is displayed on Ancestry. When I am at Ancestry the Public Member
listings have LINKS to some
of the Census information.
I eventually want to GEDCOM my files up to
Yes I did that not too long ago.
Sent from my iPad
On Mar 26, 2015, at 9:57 AM, Chris Seens cseens1...@gmail.com wrote:
You can restore from your backup.
On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 10:50 AM, Priscilla Glasow
priscilla.gla...@gmail.com wrote:
I inadvertently deleted a person. How can I
I inadvertently deleted a person. How can I retrieve him (and all my
work!)?
I dearly hope someone has an idea as re-entering all of his information
will be time-intensive and painful.
Many thanks,
Priscilla Glasow
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Sue,
If you want to format these to match Evidence Explained then you will need to
use the Override on the source and/or detail screen. You will need to do this
for any of the non population schedules (slave, mortality, agriculture etc).
Once you get it formatted, you can copy and paste the
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TNG is a popular method of creating genealogy websites.
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Escondido, CA
Quigley Doyle Family Tree
http://www.donquigley.net
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