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Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/
-Original Message-
From: Jerry
Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2011 2:37 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] How to record this location.
Thanks Mary. If you or anyone has a website or a link that you can
share with me some
I am not saying that there is anything wrong with expressing your opinion of
how you use the location and address fields. As has been stated many, many
times, the Legacy developers have provided a tool that is very flexible and
gives us different ways to use it. How we use it is up to each
I am not saying that there is anything wrong with expressing your opinion of
how you use the location and address fields. As has been stated many, many
times, the Legacy developers have provided a tool that is very flexible and
gives us different ways to use it. How we use it is up to each
Thanks Mary. If you or anyone has a website or a link that you can
share with me some time, I can always be persuaded to look at the issue
again. What I would be looking for is a systematic way in which the
location list could maintain complete alphabetical integrity while using
things like
-Original Message-
From: BG Johnson
Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 12:52 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] How to record this location.
This location thing has been beat to death, not only in the last couple of
days, but in previous spurts of similar threads. So, let
: [LegacyUG] How to record this location.
Bernhard
In Australia we only use town and state, so 3 fields with country. The town of
Ulladulla, NSW, Australia, for example, is in the local government area of
Shoalhaven, the Federal electorate of Gilmore and the State electorate of South
Coast, but none
.
Btw closest pronunciation I can think of is ull as in sea gull
Cheers
Erica
-Original Message-
From: Bernhard Scholz [mailto:scholz-c...@gmx.de]
Sent: Monday, 24 October 2011 10:04 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] How to record this location.
G'day Jenny
@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] How to record this location.
Tony,
See below for my replies for each of your questions.
Mary
--If you record a birth location as Smallville Hospital, 123, Small Street,
Smallville, rest of location, what do you use the birth address field for?
I don't
On 2011/10/24 14:03, Bernhard Scholz wrote:
If not, please don't use terms you can't describe but only heard about.
It also helps us when you
a) Use the titles that Legacy uses for each Window
b) real field labels
--
Regards,
Mike Fry
Johannesburg
Legacy User Group guidelines:
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] How to record this location.
You've seen all the other replies, but if you still wish to have the town in the
first field, and if you just want to add simple qualifiers like 'High Street',
or a cemetery name, or a hospital name, then consider
Bernard,
As I have said many times, I do not see the value of using the Address field on
the birth, death, etc. events. I KNOW how to use it but I choose NOT to for
the reasons I have given. Legacy is very flexible and I don't like how those
addresses appear in my reports and webpages.
How about we move on from this personal vendetta?
On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 8:24 AM, M. Brenzel brenze...@roadrunner.comwrote:
Bernard,
As I have said many times, I do not see the value of using the Address
field on the birth, death, etc. events. I KNOW how to use it but I choose
NOT to for
Randy,
I wouldn't classify this as a personal vendetta. I was merely clarifying my
position on the use of the Address field and defending my knowledge and
experience in the world of technology.
Consider this now dropped.
Mary
On Oct 24, 2011, at 8:28 AM, Randy Clark ceddaco...@gmail.com
, 2011 10:38 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] How to record this location.
My Scottish address has 6 fields and this what I allow for Legacy addresses. The
base problem is that US addressesi are standardised in a way not used in other
countries.
Uk addresses.can vary
: Ron Ferguson [mailto:ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk]
Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 9:58 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] How to record this location.
Paul,
For me Townsville, , Queensland, Australia Ugh!! I cannot stand those double
commas. May I also ask what
11:26 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] How to record this location.
On this list I have recommended this site
http://homepages.nildram.co.uk/~jimella/counties.htm many times for English
locations. As well as describing, as best as one can, a format for them, it also
with the email
address scholz-c...@gmx.de
Bernhard
-Original Message-
From: Tony Rolfe [mailto:geneal...@gillandtony.com]
Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 2:58 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] How to record this location.
The more I think back about this issue
beating those who choose not to use your method.
Ron Bernier
Woonsocket, RI
From: Bernhard Scholz [scholz-c...@gmx.de]
Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 10:29 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] How to record this location.
Tony,
I
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] How to record this location.
The more I think back about this issue, the more I think it was with a much
earlier version of Legacy (Legacy 4?) and long before the mapping feature was
invented. I've done a few experiments with using street addresses
:53 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] How to record this location.
This location thing has been beat to death, not only in the last couple of days,
but in previous spurts of similar threads. So, let me add my thoughts.
1. It is my opinion that a single field
, October 23, 2011 11:26 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] How to record this location.
On this list I have recommended this site
http://homepages.nildram.co.uk/~jimella/counties.htm many times for English
locations. As well as describing, as best as one can, a format
On 10/24/2011 7:06 AM, Mike Fry wrote:
On 2011/10/24 14:03, Bernhard Scholz wrote:
If not, please don't use terms you can't describe but only heard about.
It also helps us when you
a) Use the titles that Legacy uses for each Window
b) real field labels
On the point of describing Legacy
, October 24, 2011 8:14 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Cc: Mike Fry
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] How to record this location.
On 10/24/2011 7:06 AM, Mike Fry wrote:
On 2011/10/24 14:03, Bernhard Scholz wrote:
If not, please don't use terms you can't describe but only heard about.
It also helps us
There is a title for every window in Legacy in the top border of that window.
Also, when you have a problem, it helps to document *how* you arrived
at the screen you're seeing a problem with.
Sincerely,
Sherry
Technical Support
Legacy Family Tree
On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 12:14 PM, Ch
: Monday, October 24, 2011 4:26 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] How to record this location.
On Sun, 23 Oct 2011 19:52:48 -0400, BG Johnson b...@brmemc.net wrote:
1. It is my opinion that a single field in a database that uses a csv
format within the field is poor
: Monday, October 24, 2011 4:26 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] How to record this location.
On Sun, 23 Oct 2011 19:52:48 -0400, BG Johnson b...@brmemc.net wrote:
1. It is my opinion that a single field in a database that uses a csv
format within the field is poor
On Mon, 24 Oct 2011 18:17:29 -0400, BG Johnson b...@brmemc.net wrote:
I believe that this is a case where separate fields would have been better.
I cannot say without more study. But given that the location fields
probably came long before some of the other features that use them now
(geolocs,
-Original Message-
From: Dennis M. Kowallek [mailto:kowal...@iglou.com]
(Can't assume that a mechanized conversion is possible.)
--
I totally agree. If one did not use the four place convention as intended, it
would NOT be possible to mechanize the conversion.
bgj
Legacy User
Brown
Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 3:24 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] How to record this location.
I have used the 4 fields since the Geo Location Database first came out.
The facility to suppress double commas in printing is sufficient for output,
as the second
://www.fergys.co.uk/
-Original Message-
From: M. Brenzel
Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 2:24 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] How to record this location.
Tony,
See below for my replies for each of your questions.
Mary
--How do you handle a situation where
On 23/10/2011 09:09, Ron Ferguson wrote:
The situation which Tony identifies is quite common in our censuses. The
location hasn't changed between censuses! The answer is simple (if you're
from here :-)): Hallam is a district with the city of Sheffield, as a
complete aside it is the
On 23/10/2011 01:17, Tony Rolfe wrote:
If you record a birth location as Smallville Hospital, 123, Small
Street, Smallville, rest of location, what do you use the birth address
field for?
I don't use the Birth Address field! (Or any of the other Address
fields. I used to, but hated the way
@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] How to record this location.
You've seen all the other replies, but if you still wish to have the town in
the first field, and if you just want to add simple qualifiers like 'High
Street', or a cemetery name, or a hospital name, then consider this
convention: Morden
-
From: Bernhard Scholz [mailto:scholz-c...@gmx.de]
Sent: Saturday, 22 October 2011 21:34
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] How to record this location.
Ron,
I have to disagree as the 4 field convention is not only an American idea but
also used in many other
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To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Sun, October 23, 2011 3:37:43 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] How to record this location.
My Scottish address has 6 fields and this what I allow for Legacy addresses. The
base problem is that US addressesi are standardised in a way not used in other
.
Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/
-Original Message-
From: Joan
Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 9:37 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] How to record this location.
My Scottish address has 6 fields and this what I allow for Legacy addresses.
The base problem
On 23/10/2011 22:42, Margaret Turner wrote:
Ltools deluxe has a great feature to do this automatically for you
http://zippersoftware.com/wp/ltools/current-ltools-features/deluxe-ltools-features/
Address Converter – converts Event Addresses into Locations.
Thanks. I have Ltools now, but not
Ron,
Just came from that site and it has been updated and moved to:
http://www.jimella.me.uk/counties.cfm
Thank you for an excellent reference...only have one outlaw branch from
England...and most of my information has come from the census pages...which
can be very confusing!!! Maybe with the
The more I think back about this issue, the more I think it was with a
much earlier version of Legacy (Legacy 4?) and long before the mapping
feature was invented. I've done a few experiments with using street
addresses in locations and can't find anything which would cause any
angst. Maybe the
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] How to record this location.
On this list I have recommended this site
http://homepages.nildram.co.uk/~jimella/counties.htm many times for English
locations. As well as describing, as best as one can, a format for them, it
also gives a brief historic background as to how
On 22/10/2011 00:04, Tony Rolfe wrote:
My problem, all those years ago, was that when I entered a location as
Morden, Surrey, England Legacy was able to deduce that Morden was a
town. However, if I entered High Street, Morden, Surrey, England,
Legacy assumed that the town was High Street, and
think of this ;-).
Bernhard
-Original Message-
From: Ron Ferguson [mailto:ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk]
Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2011 1:39 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] How to record this location.
Tony,
I am tempted to ask what 4 field convention? I do
: [LegacyUG] How to record this location.
Ron,
I have to disagree as the 4 field convention is not only an American idea
but
also used in many other countries around the world. eg. Australia, Austria,
Germany and if I remeber right in Switzerland.
BTW, as you live in England what do your neighbours living
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Friday, October 21, 2011 7:04 PM
Subject: [LegacyUG] How to record this location.
My problem, all those years ago, was that when I entered a location as
Morden, Surrey, England Legacy was able to deduce that Morden was a
town. However, if I entered High Street
Not in Australia to my knowledge.
Cheers
Jan
-Original Message-
From: Bernhard Scholz [mailto:scholz-c...@gmx.de]
Sent: Saturday, 22 October 2011 21:34
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] How to record this location.
Ron,
I have to disagree as the 4 field
Bernhard
In Australia we only use town and state, so 3 fields with country. The
town of Ulladulla, NSW, Australia, for example, is in the local
government area of Shoalhaven, the Federal electorate of Gilmore and the
State electorate of South Coast, but none of those would be used in a
location.
Tony,
See below for my replies for each of your questions.
Mary
--If you record a birth location as Smallville Hospital, 123, Small Street,
Smallville, rest of location, what do you use the birth address field for?
I don't use the address fields for birth, death, burial, etc. as I don't like
of
personal preference.
Cheers
Paul
Townsville, , Queensland, Australia.
- Original Message -
From: Jan Roberts poo...@ozemail.com.au
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 8:47 AM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] How to record this location.
Not in Australia to my
/
-Original Message-
From: Tony Rolfe
Sent: Friday, October 21, 2011 1:54 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] How to record this location.
Some time ago, I was advised by Legacy support that I should only keep
towns, villages etc. in the location list and that street
On 21/10/2011 01:54, Tony Rolfe wrote:
Some time ago, I was advised by Legacy support that I should only keep
towns, villages etc. in the location list and that street addresses and
similar should be kept separately.
Well, that's not the way I - and others - do it! I know several of us
put
: Tony Rolfe geneal...@gillandtony.com
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Thu, October 20, 2011 7:54:44 PM
Subject: [LegacyUG] How to record this location.
Some time ago, I was advised by Legacy support that I should only keep
towns, villages etc. in the location list and that street addresses
My problem, all those years ago, was that when I entered a location as
Morden, Surrey, England Legacy was able to deduce that Morden was a
town. However, if I entered High Street, Morden, Surrey, England,
Legacy assumed that the town was High Street, and this confused the
issue somewhat.
The
! and I do not put any
of those extra commas in.
Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/
-Original Message-
From: Tony Rolfe
Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2011 12:04 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] How to record this location.
My problem, all those years ago
I also don't use the American way of doing locations, but I do use the
geolocation database to put longitude and latitude data into all my
locations.
I don't use Bing. I'm quite happy with the Legacy mapping, except that
it assumes that the leftmost field of 4 is a town. I would love to use
Tony,
For your information, Legacy mapping uses Bing.
Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/
-Original Message-
From: Tony Rolfe
Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2011 1:19 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] How to record this location.
I also don't use the American
Ahh! For some reason I assumed it used Google Maps (despite the little
Bing symbol at the bottom). I guess I do use Bing, after all.
Legacy User Group guidelines:
http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp
Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009:
If you search the archives you will see this 4 field conventions discussed
many times.
I believe that most of the knowledgeable Legacy users (especially outside
the USA) do the following:
- Ignore the 4 field convention and enter as many fields as seems
appropriate for the specific location (3,
Some time ago, I was advised by Legacy support that I should only keep
towns, villages etc. in the location list and that street addresses and
similar should be kept separately.
I have just discovered a family member who was killed in action during
WW1. He died as a result of enemy action,
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