Re: [LegacyUG] Unknown Persons

2015-03-28 Thread Jay Wilpolt
John, For Gedcom validation I recommed Genealogica Grafica http://www.genealogicagrafica.nl/ or try Tim's Bonkersits GREAT! http://www.mccomberfamily.com/2013/02/bonkers-gedcom-sanity-checker.html These both go much further than Legacy does in validation. On Fri, Mar 27, 2015 at

RE: [LegacyUG] Unknown Persons

2015-03-28 Thread Barton Lewis
Wow, who knew … Thank you Jay for sharing these wonderful sites. Barton From: Jay Wilpolt [mailto:jaywilp...@aol.com] Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2015 7:24 PM To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Unknown Persons John, For Gedcom validation I recommed Genealogica

Re: [LegacyUG] Unknown Persons

2015-03-28 Thread BobsTree2-Gmail
When addressing Mr. Jones or Mr. Smith, I usually say, Excuse me, SUR. Re you Mister Surname? On Mar 28, 2015, at 14:00, Robert57P_gmail robert...@gmail.com wrote: Anyone have a good hint that I can use to remember that surname = last name and given name = first name? Legacy User Group

Re: [LegacyUG] Unknown Persons

2015-03-28 Thread Betty Campbell
I put in Female or Male. On Mar 27, 2015 10:25 AM, Don Quigley dwquig...@cox.net wrote: Some of the recent messages have prompted this more general question I have about how to enter “names” for unknown persons in Legacy, particularly for persons with no known given or surname. This situation

Re: [LegacyUG] Unknown Persons

2015-03-28 Thread Robert57P_gmail
I do a slight modification to the below. I use: [---?--] unknown first name (given name) [~--?--] unknown last name (surname) These are usually followed with [[child of xxx]] or [[wife of xxx]] For example: [---?--][[child of Uriah Patton]] Adding the info in double brackets allows me to

[LegacyUG] Unknown Persons

2015-03-27 Thread Don Quigley
Some of the recent messages have prompted this more general question I have about how to enter names for unknown persons in Legacy, particularly for persons with no known given or surname. This situation typically arises for a female with no known surname, for whom I have information about her

Re: [LegacyUG] Unknown Persons

2015-03-27 Thread John B. Lisle
Don, One of the your other respondents said whatever floats your boat. I both agree with this sentiment and disagree with such a practice. An important element in treating unknown names is that you are consistent within your own data. I have seen trees where the user used ?, Unknown, Unk, Lnu

Re: [LegacyUG] Unknown Persons

2015-03-27 Thread Jay Wilpolt
Don, I cant answer the question as to why Legacy does the things it does as far as name conventions. But I have a large database of almost 250,000. The problems come most often because of exchanging gedcoms where importing and exporting data doesnt always end up in the right place causing

Re: [LegacyUG] Unknown Persons

2015-03-27 Thread John B. Lisle
Jay, We can agree to disagree about your unknown name naming conventions, but I did wish to respond to some of your date usage. As both of us maintain somewhat public research sites online, I decided some time ago that I did not wish to publish dates that I could not support by some type of

RE: [LegacyUG] Unknown Persons

2015-03-27 Thread BARTON LEWIS
I use the old LNU (last name unknown), which groups them all in the index in alphabetical order by last name/first name.    Barton       On Fri, Mar 27, 2015 at 01:23 PM, Don Quigley wrote:     Some of the recent messages have prompted this more general question I have about how to enter “names”

Re: [LegacyUG] Unknown Persons

2015-03-27 Thread MikeFry
On 2015/03/27 19:23 PM, Don Quigley wrote: For me, ??? seems to work well, but I’ve often wondered why does Legacy (and other geneaology sources) warn against the use of a questionmark in a name? Are they just referring to the practice of trying to show uncertainty about a name –

RE: [LegacyUG] Unknown Persons

2015-03-27 Thread CE WOOD
of, it is never part of the surname. There are a few times when, much later, it was incorporated into the surname, for example, de la Warre became Delaware, but that is rare. CE From: dwquig...@cox.net To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Unknown Persons Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2015 10:23

Re: [LegacyUG] Unknown Persons

2015-03-27 Thread Jay Wilpolt
John I think we are on the same page some thoughts to add. *As both of us maintain somewhat public research sites online, I decided some time ago that I did not wish to publish dates that I could not support by some type of fact. Yet, as a One Namer, I would find that my family files

Re: [LegacyUG] Unknown Persons

2015-03-27 Thread Cathy Pinner
I agree with John about how easily date modifiers get lost. For a start they don't show in many indexes. So I also put dates in privacy brackets. However, in Legacy I don't feel the need to put something in the Death date to trigger that the person has died. I periodically run the Advanced Set

Re: [LegacyUG] Unknown Persons

2015-03-27 Thread John B. Lisle
Jay, Please see below... john. At 06:59 PM 3/27/2015, Jay Wilpolt wrote: John I think we are on the same page some thoughts to add. As both of us maintain somewhat public research sites online, I decided some time ago that I did not wish to publish dates that I could not support by

Re: [LegacyUG] Unknown Persons

2015-03-27 Thread John B. Lisle
Cathy, 1/ Let me say that I include a death date for people whom I believe to have died out of a personal preference. We have chatted about this in the past, and I think my way is safer. For instance, I get to set people as deceased who died in the 20th century whom I cannot find explicit death