Re: [LegacyUG] Location Data missing for individuals

2019-11-23 Thread Linda Taylor
I am using 8.0 and I have the current build. For every birth, baptism, death, and burial I have only the dates, and no locations for everyone.  For the Events/Facts sections the locations are included in the event description. I have only put half a dozen pictures in the picture center as I

[LegacyUG] Surname Changed When Immigrated

2019-11-23 Thread Cathy Vallevieni
My great grandfather had the surname Vallevegni in Italy. When the family immigrated to the U.S. it changed to Vallevieni which they used from then on (probably changed at Ellis Island). How should I enter 2 surnames in Legayc? -- Cathy Vallevieni 714 389-6374 Home 714 227-4948 Cell --

Re: [LegacyUG] Surname Changed When Immigrated

2019-11-23 Thread mvmcgrs--- via LegacyUserGroup
Sorry, but I disagree with that statement. The people at Ellis Island only checked off the names. The names were entered at the departure. The time that Ellis Island staff entered the names where as detained aliens. The manifest's were made up at the place of departure so if the name was

Re: [LegacyUG] Surname Changed When Immigrated

2019-11-23 Thread Laura Johnson
First - names were NOT changed at Ellis Island.  The names on the manifests were from the port of departure.  So if it was written as VAllevieni on the manifest, it is because it was written that way on the manifest. Second, I always record the birth/baptismal name as the correct names.  All

Re: [LegacyUG] Surname Changed When Immigrated

2019-11-23 Thread Christopher Seward Sr.
Marie, I would disagree with that first statement.  In my years of doing research, I have heard stories where the workers at Ellis Island entered names into the ledgers incorrectly.  If they were unable to discern the name from the ships manifest, they would of write down the names as THEY

Re: [LegacyUG] Surname Changed When Immigrated

2019-11-23 Thread Christopher Seward Sr.
You're entitled.  I will say that I have interviewed people who will attest to my statements.  Also, an investigative article by the Smithsonian found that inspectors would sometimes correct what they felt to be spelling errors on the ships' manifests.  If they admitted that they did it, I

Re: [LegacyUG] Surname Changed When Immigrated

2019-11-23 Thread Laura Johnson
the so called ledgers were the ships manifests - those were done at the port of departure. Here are a few good articles to let you know what really happened

Re: [LegacyUG] Surname Changed When Immigrated

2019-11-23 Thread Chris Hill
And it happened elsewhere. I found a family in Cornwall, UK with 14 different spellings spread across Census and BMD records - damn difficult tracking them down. Regards Chris >From my Motorola G6+ On Sat, 23 Nov 2019, 23:05 Roberta Schwalm, wrote: > I've seen a few dillies myself. My

Re: [LegacyUG] Surname Changed When Immigrated

2019-11-23 Thread mvmcgrs--- via LegacyUserGroup
First, the name was not changed at Ellis Island. The manifests were made in the country that they departed from. They probably made the change themselves to make the name easier to pronounce and spell. They may have done it legally, [through the courts] but more likely they just started to

Re: [LegacyUG] Surname Changed When Immigrated

2019-11-23 Thread Cathy Vallevieni
Thank you all for the input.  I now know how to properly enter both surnames. Thank you, Laura, for sending the links.  I will check them out. Cathy Vallevieni 714 389-6374 Home 714 227-4948 Cell On 11/23/2019 1:16 PM, Laura Johnson wrote: the so called ledgers were the ships manifests -

Re: [LegacyUG] Surname Changed When Immigrated

2019-11-23 Thread Roberta Schwalm
I've seen a few dillies myself. My father's surname was Schwalm but I have seen it written as Schwaten! His mother's maiden name was Jung but on her record of marriage it is entered as Yung because of the way the German "J" is pronounced. As for my mother's Snoddy side of the family, although

Re: [LegacyUG] Surname Changed When Immigrated

2019-11-23 Thread Christopher Seward Sr.
The first one you listed is the one that mentions that the Inspectors would make changes of what they perceived to be errors.  You've made my point. The others you listed are articles by people who have made the same assumptions you made.  I have interviewed people who came through Ellis

Re: [LegacyUG] Surname Changed When Immigrated

2019-11-23 Thread Roberta Schwalm
The find I made was in Ancestry. The Drouin Collection had my father's surname down as Schuster although it was correctly spelled in the register of the Catholic parish where my parents, Louisa Snoddy and Robert Schwalm, were married. Another hilarious one was in the 1911 Canadian Census. The

Re: [LegacyUG] Surname Changed When Immigrated ;-)

2019-11-23 Thread Dee
152 WAYS TO SPELL SULLIVAN Interesting range of experiences reported on this topic, and good advice to use Legacy's AKA option; and I'll add this to the pot. Several years ago my friend Hugh Sullivan made a list of "152 ways to spell Sullivan." all taken from actual records. I posted it on the

Re: [LegacyUG] Surname Changed When Immigrated

2019-11-23 Thread dan via LegacyUserGroup
Also, my grandfather and his brothers told me that when they arrived at Ellis Island, they told the inspectors to "spell our name American" so it was changed from Jochman to Yohman (pronounced the same). Dan Yohman On Saturday, November 23, 2019, 08:50:46 PM EST, Christopher Seward Sr.