Re: [LegacyUG] How to set up master source for City Directories in Legacy

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Re: [LegacyUG] How to set up master source for City Directories in Legacy

[Cathy Pinner]

Your choice Denise

but I'd read on further and see that ESS calls them facsimile reprints 
or image reprints though in my edition she doesn't detail them online 
but rather on CD or microfilm.

"12.79 Reprints: Image Editions
Reprints that offer image copies of earlier publications are called
facsimile reprints (as opposed to facsimile reproductions of original
records, covered at 12.77). However, the modern terms image copy or
image reprint are better understood today."

Of course her caveats apply.

No doubt her webpages or the later editions cover online reprints.

I really don't care about exact ordering and commas etc so long as the 
source can be found. Of course it needs the online detail and the 
original publication detail.


That's what the SourceWriter reprint templates, which are all based on 
Evidence Explained, provide.


Cathy

d.mossfri...@comcast.net wrote:


Cathy,

Yes, I am aware of the sample's format style. However, I am also aware
that a digital image of an original book (City Directory or otherwise)
is not a reprint of the original publication. A reprint would include
both the original publication date and the date of the reprint. That
is standard practice of the publishing industry. Even the publisher of
a reprint might / probably would differ from the publisher of the
original publication.

As for SourceWriter, perhaps these differences is why I prefer not to
use that option.

Thanks for the comments,

Denise




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Directories in Legacy

Denise,

you've given an example for a Basic Format - real book City Directory.
An online version needs a layered source.

Using the Books Reprint option is a way to get that and provides the
necessary fields for the online site and the original.

Do you know that when looking for a template in the SourceWriter you
can enter the section number in the Find box?

I just did this - and it gave the templates I pointed to.

Cathy

Denise Moss-Fritch wrote:


Cathy,

I am a bit hesitant with describing a digitized (online) City
Directory as a ‘reprint’. Might I suggest you review section 12.75
Reprints & Revisions in ‘Evidence Explained’ (p. 708-9)

The book does provide a sample source list entry for a City Directory
as follows:

Polk, R. L., compiler. Colora do Springs, Colorado, City Directory.
Colorado Springs: R. L. Polk Directory Co., 1924, 1927, 1929, 1931.

Typically the compiler and publishing information for a City
Directory
is found on the title / legal page of a directory, including the
digital images.

Denise

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Directories in Legacy

Thomas

A Historical City Directory seen via images online, is a book that
has
been republished online.
So in SourceWriter start with Books and choose one of the reprint
options and then online book for the Medium.
If you want the full original publishing details, add them along with
the original publication date.

C athy

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Re: [LegacyUG] How to set up master source for City Directories in Legacy

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Denise, Cathy

I will look into that (using the Mills number). I of course was using the 
advanced way of creating sources and detail (sadly cant think of the name 
at the moment...been a long day!).

Since I did type in city directory for the type of templates to be displayed 
and it did show an online image as well as a online database templates.  But 
neither template really worked since it seemed to be missing 
something, definitely in the detail part of it.   And to relate to Mills 
number, I dont recall if the Mills number was displayed next to each 
template shown.  Since if it wasnt , it would have been nice to seen them 
displayed in the search.  I will have to double check that.

In the meantime since it wont be til tomorrow when Ill get on the 
computer, it doesnt sound like one can set a source to use multiple times. 
 Using the Colorado Springs example, if I had a person mention in the same city 
directory from 1929 thru 1931, I would need 3 different sources for each year, 
correct?  I did see 1929 and 1931 in the example above so would that how you 
cover different years but how??  - since each directory is a different 
book/body of work unless it is because the Ancestry database.  Hope I am making 
some sense.

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Re: [LegacyUG] How to set up master source for City Directories in Legacy

[d . mossfritch]

Cathy, 

Yes, I am aware of the sample's format style. However, I am also aware that a 
digital image of an original book (City Directory or otherwise) is not a 
reprint of the original publication. A reprint would include both the original 
publication date and the date of the reprint. That is standard practice of the 
publishing industry. Even the publisher of a reprint might / probably would 
differ from the publisher of the original publication. 

As for SourceWriter, perhaps these differences is why I prefer not to use that 
option. 

Thanks for the comments, 

Denise 



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From: "Cathy Pinner"  
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Sent: Friday, October 28, 2016 8:42:41 PM 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] How to set up master source for City Directories in 
Legacy 

Denise, 

you've given an example for a Basic Format - real book City Directory. 
An online version needs a layered source. 

Using the Books Reprint option is a way to get that and provides the necessary 
fields for the online site and the original. 

Do you know that when looking for a template in the SourceWriter you can enter 
the section number in the Find box? 

I just did this - and it gave the templates I pointed to. 

Cathy 

Denise Moss-Fritch wrote: 



Cathy, 

I am a bit hesitant with describing a digitized (online) City 
Directory as a ‘reprint’. Might I suggest you review section 12.75 
Reprints & Revisions in ‘Evidence Explained’ (p. 708-9) 

The book does provide a sample source list entry for a City Directory 
as follows: 

Polk, R. L., compiler. Colora do Springs, Colorado, City Directory. 
Colorado Springs: R. L. Polk Directory Co., 1924, 1927, 1929, 1931. 

Typically the compiler and publishing information for a City Directory 
is found on the title / legal page of a directory, including the 
digital images. 

Denise 

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*Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] How to set up master source for City 
Directories in Legacy 

Thomas 

A Historical City Directory seen via images online, is a book that has 
been republished online. 
So in SourceWriter start with Books and choose one of the reprint 
options and then online book for the Medium. 
If you want the full original publishing details, add them along with 
the original publication date. 

C athy 

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Re: [LegacyUG] How to set up master source for City Directories in Legacy

[Cathy Pinner]

Denise,

you've given an example for a Basic Format - real book City Directory.
An online version needs a layered source.

Using the Books Reprint option is a way to get that and provides the 
necessary fields for the online site and the original.


Do you know that when looking for a template in the SourceWriter you can 
enter the section number in the Find box?


I just did this - and it gave the templates I pointed to.

Cathy

Denise Moss-Fritch wrote:


Cathy,

I am a bit hesitant with describing a digitized (online) City
Directory as a ‘reprint’. Might I suggest you review section 12.75
Reprints & Revisions in ‘Evidence Explained’ (p. 708-9)

The book does provide a sample source list entry for a City Directory
as follows:

Polk, R. L., compiler. Colorado Springs, Colorado, City Directory.
Colorado Springs: R. L. Polk Directory Co., 1924, 1927, 1929, 1931.

Typically the compiler and publishing information for a City Directory
is found on the title / legal page of a directory, including the
digital images.

Denise

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Directories in Legacy

Thomas

A Historical City Directory seen via images online, is a book that has
been republished online.
So in SourceWriter start with Books and choose one of the reprint
options and then online book for the Medium.
If you want the full original publishing details, add them along with
the original publication date.

Cathy

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Re: [LegacyUG] pedigree charts- changing number of generations

[Brian Kelly]

That is so you will always have a full page of generations on the sheet. 
You add a page worth of generations each time you increase the number to 
include.


Brian Kelly

On 28-Oct-16 11:31 PM, johnbernac...@iprimus.com.au wrote:

Has anybody else had problems changing/selecting the number of generations to 
be printed on pedigree charts (via Reports option) ? Legacy will not allow me 
to change it one generation at a time i.e. it jumps about three generations.

John






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[LegacyUG] pedigree charts- changing number of generations

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Has anybody else had problems changing/selecting the number of generations to 
be printed on pedigree charts (via Reports option) ? Legacy will not allow me 
to change it one generation at a time i.e. it jumps about three generations.

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Re: [LegacyUG] How to set up master source for City Directories in Legacy

[Denise Moss-Fritch]

Cathy,

 

I am a bit hesitant with describing a digitized (online) City Directory as a 
‘reprint’. Might I suggest you review section 12.75 Reprints & Revisions in 
‘Evidence Explained’ (p. 708-9)

 

The book does provide a sample source list entry for a City Directory as 
follows:

 

Polk, R. L., compiler. Colorado Springs, Colorado, City Directory. Colorado 
Springs: R. L. Polk Directory Co., 1924, 1927, 1929, 1931.

 

Typically the compiler and publishing information for a City Directory is found 
on the title / legal page of a directory, including the digital images.

 

Denise

 

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Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] How to set up master source for City Directories in 
Legacy

 

Thomas

A Historical City Directory seen via images online, is a book that has been 
republished online.
So in SourceWriter start with Books and choose one of the reprint options and 
then online book for the Medium.
If you want the full original publishing details, add them along with the 
original publication date.

Cathy

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Re: [LegacyUG] How to set up master source for City Directories in Legacy

[Cathy Pinner]

Thomas

A Historical City Directory seen via images online, is a book that has 
been republished online.
So in SourceWriter start with Books and choose one of the reprint 
options and then online book for the Medium.
If you want the full original publishing details, add them along with 
the original publication date.


Cathy

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[LegacyUG] How to set up master source for City Directories in Legacy

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Okay, I have tried to set up a  master source for City Directories that I see 
in Ancestry.  But I just can't seem to wrap my head around how to do it 
correctly - just seems there is something missing.  Yes I know the images are 
in a database and such images are from a book.   But also can't believe that 
one will have to create a new master source for each year and location as well.
Please include the how and why you set them up as well as the steps. Since I am 
trying to go for reuseablity on the master source.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Programme is slow when changing screens

[CE WOOD]

Remember version ? which recalculated relationships each time? That really 
slowed things down! This sounds similar. Programmers fixed the old problem by 
forcing you to choose to recalculate. Perhaps they should do the same for 
Potential Problems in this version.


Someone using version 8+++ should send them a suggestion..



CE



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Sent: Friday, October 28, 2016 1:47 AM
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Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Programme is slow when changing screens

On 28-Oct-16 03:12 AM, Linda Greethurst wrote:
> If you turn off (click the box to remove the check mark) the Potential
> Problem (Options> Customize> View> 8.11) you will find the Legacy
> program really zips right along.  Then turn it on when you want to use
> the Potential Problem option.

Linda G, I love you!  The extreme sluggishness was driving me to
distraction.  I thought it might be the integration with Family Search
as I always seemed to be waiting ages for all the little
green/orange/grey markers to fall into place (after having waited ages
for the screen to switch) but switching that off made no difference.
Your solution WORKED - hurrah!

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Re: [LegacyUG] Programme is slow when changing screens

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On 28-Oct-16 03:12 AM, Linda Greethurst wrote:

If you turn off (click the box to remove the check mark) the Potential
Problem (Options> Customize> View> 8.11) you will find the Legacy
program really zips right along.  Then turn it on when you want to use
the Potential Problem option.


Linda G, I love you!  The extreme sluggishness was driving me to 
distraction.  I thought it might be the integration with Family Search 
as I always seemed to be waiting ages for all the little 
green/orange/grey markers to fall into place (after having waited ages 
for the screen to switch) but switching that off made no difference. 
Your solution WORKED - hurrah!


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Thomas -

You are quite right; my "solution" will turn off warnings for everyone. 
Trevor Carlson has a much better solution, which should do exactly what 
you want.


Best of luck.

John


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