Re: [OSM-legal-talk] License question, user clicking on map

2013-02-27 Thread Alex Barth
On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 11:19 AM, Kate Chapman k...@maploser.com wrote: My understanding is you are saying I would like it to be this way, but at the moment it is not. Correct? Correct. ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] License question, user clicking on map

2013-02-27 Thread Alex Barth
On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 11:19 AM, Kate Chapman k...@maploser.com wrote: My understanding is you are saying I would like it to be this way, but at the moment it is not. Correct? Actually to be more specific: I'm saying I would like geocoding-like use cases to be clarified, at the moment it is

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] License question, user clicking on map

2013-02-27 Thread Marc Regan
I'm also going to add we should do away with share alike in the mid term. It's just complicated and hurting OSM. Case in point: example at hand. +1. If you want to do anything with OSM data besides make map tiles, the cloud of uncertainty around what you can and can't do with the data is

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] License question, user clicking on map

2013-02-27 Thread Mikel Maron
It would appear that any and all data associated with a website or mobile app becomes fair game once OSM data is used.  That may be an appearance, but it is not true. Actually, you should be fine, this is a very common use case.  There are some details, but when making tiles, as long as they

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] License question, user clicking on map

2013-02-27 Thread Richard Fairhurst
WhereAmI wrote: It would appear that any and all data associated with a website or mobile app becomes fair game once OSM data is used. What? No. No, that isn't true. I'm no fan of share-alike but that is trivially disprovable. Richard -- View this message in context:

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] License question, user clicking on map

2013-02-27 Thread Rob
It would appear that any and all data associated with a website or mobile app becomes fair game once OSM data is used. What? No. No, that isn't true. I'm no fan of share-alike but that is trivially disprovable. Where is the line in the sand? For example I have a website which is driven by

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] License question, user clicking on map

2013-02-27 Thread Alex Barth
Rob - as long as you don't mix ODbL data and other data in the same database, ODbL's share alike cause doesn't kick in. So using the OSM tiles on your web site doesn't mean that data in your web site is affected. I recommend reading the ODbL, it's pretty clear that way

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] License question, user clicking on map

2013-02-27 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, On 27.02.2013 21:24, Marc Regan wrote: +1. If you want to do anything with OSM data besides make map tiles, the cloud of uncertainty around what you can and can't do with the data is pretty terrifying. Just to make this one point clear: What you *can* do with the data is pretty clear

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] License question, user clicking on map

2013-02-27 Thread Jake Wasserman
Alex, I'm a little confused. The way I interpret your comment, merely storing ODbL and non-ODbL data in the same database triggers share alike. But on the use cases wiki page ( http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/License/Use_Cases), Case 4 says: 'It makes no difference whether you store the data