Re: [OSM-legal-talk] License clarification

2018-06-07 Thread Andrew Pon
Thanks to everybody for helping me with clarifying the license. To answer some of the questions that came up, we would be masking water bodies at the end of our processing chain, once we had already derived rates for all of the pixels. There are also a few other masking steps that would be run

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] License clarification

2018-06-07 Thread Kathleen Lu
Rory - I don't think you can, because the negative area is area with both no ground elevation/displacement and no water body. There would be no way to tell whether the negative area was water body data or simply no displacement. On Thu, Jun 7, 2018 at 4:41 AM Rory McCann wrote: > On 07/06/18

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] License clarification

2018-06-07 Thread Rory McCann
On 07/06/18 00:44, Kathleen Lu wrote: The way I understand the use, the OSM data is used to identify areas that are to be discarded. Data in those areas are discarded. Thus, the OSM data is not kept either, and no OSM data in the final dataset. Thus, there is no derivative database containing

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] License clarification

2018-06-07 Thread Paul Norman
On 2018-06-07 12:19 AM, Christoph Hormann wrote: The idea that you can produce a data set using both OSM and non-OSM data in a meaningful way without there being either a collective or a derivative database seems fundamentally at odds with the basic concept of the ODbL. The only way this could

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] License clarification

2018-06-07 Thread Christoph Hormann
On Thursday 07 June 2018, althio wrote: > > I would then interpret the requirements as: > Use: Attribution is required. > Horizontal layers / Collective Database: Share Alike is not required. This is what i mentioned in my first reply with "If what you do is just masking the water areas in

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] License clarification

2018-06-07 Thread althio
I feel the most relevant guideline in the case of Andrew would be: https://wiki.osmfoundation.org/wiki/Licence/Community_Guidelines/Horizontal_Map_Layers_-_Guideline What they do: - using some OSM data of 1 Feature Type [large water bodies] - and producing data of another Feature Type [ground

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] License clarification

2018-06-07 Thread Christoph Hormann
On Thursday 07 June 2018, Kathleen Lu wrote: > The way I understand the use, the OSM data is used to identify areas > that are to be discarded. Data in those areas are discarded. Thus, > the OSM data is not kept either, and no OSM data in the final > dataset. Thus, there is no derivative database