Re: [OSM-legal-talk] use OSM data to select proprietary data

2019-12-14 Thread Robert Whittaker (OSM lists)
On Thu, 12 Dec 2019 22:41 Kathleen Lu via legal-talk, < legal-talk@openstreetmap.org> wrote: > No, ODbL does not apply to any database that does not include OSM data. > There are two reasons. > I would argue that the dataset here does include some OSM data, as it includes (albeit limited)

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Copy information from official business website (WAS: Proposal for a revision of JA:Available Data)

2019-07-10 Thread Robert Whittaker (OSM lists)
On Fri, 5 Jul 2019 at 21:18, tomoya muramoto wrote: > I ask a simple question. May I copy the information of the TESCO Boston > Superstore to OSM? > https://www.tesco.com/store-locator/uk/?bid=2108 > > This website contains information such as > - addr=* > - phone=* > - opening_hours=* > -

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Licence compatibility: Open Data Licence for The Regional Municipality of Peel (Version 1.0)

2016-09-09 Thread Robert Whittaker (OSM lists)
On 9 September 2016 at 18:19, Luis Villa wrote: > Can you elaborate on the second point, Simon? Are you referring to the > "third party rights the Information Provider is not authorised to license" > language? If so, I'm afraid they've merely made explicit what is implicit in > all

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] is legal-talk@openstreetmap.org searchable?

2016-08-18 Thread Robert Whittaker (OSM lists)
On 18 August 2016 at 21:12, Frederik Ramm wrote: > use your favourite search engine with something like > "site:lists.openstreetmap.org legal-talk mykeyword". Or better still "site:lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/legal-talk/ mykeyword", which works on at least Google.

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] FYI Collective Database Guideline

2016-06-09 Thread Robert Whittaker (OSM lists)
On 9 June 2016 at 13:08, Christoph Hormann wrote: > On Thursday 09 June 2016, Simon Poole wrote: >> >> The LWG has just forwarded the text of >> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Collective_Database_Guideline to >> the OSMF board for approval and publishing as definite

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] new wiki page ODbL compatibility of common licenses

2016-01-18 Thread Robert Whittaker (OSM lists)
On 18 January 2016 at 10:53, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > Following a thread on the OSMF-talk list, I am kindly asking you to review > and improve a new wiki page that tries to give an overview about the > compatibility of common licenses with the ODbL and CT: >

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] NSW LPI permission

2015-12-12 Thread Robert Whittaker (OSM lists)
On 11 December 2015 at 21:04, Andrew Harvey wrote: > Talking with their legal people it was, or at least as far as I > understood them, their view that the the ODbL style of attribution > (where downstream don't need to provide attribution for any > incorporated or

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Addresses from Land Registry Price Paid Data

2014-12-02 Thread Robert Whittaker (OSM lists)
On 1 December 2014 at 21:51, Simon Poole si...@poole.ch wrote: Am 01.12.2014 15:08, schrieb Robert Whittaker (OSM lists): This also raises the question of whether there are any other OGL-licensed datasets out there that have been used in OSM, but which contain undocumented third-party IP

[OSM-legal-talk] Addresses from Land Registry Price Paid Data

2014-12-01 Thread Robert Whittaker (OSM lists)
As you may know, the UK's Land Registry makes available historical Price Paid data for residential property sales, licensed under the Open Government Licence (OGL). Along with the prices paid, this data also includes full addresses and postcodes for the properties. OGL-licensed data is regarded

[OSM-legal-talk] Contents Licence for OSM Data

2014-10-29 Thread Robert Whittaker (OSM lists)
The ODbL that we now use for OSM data technically only applies to the database, and not to individual contents contained within it. For that, the ODbL says you need a separate licence [1]. I was under the impression that for OSM's data this licence was the ODC's Database Contents Licence (DbCL)

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] YouTube videos

2014-08-08 Thread Robert Whittaker (OSM lists)
On 8 August 2014 09:48, Simon Poole si...@poole.ch wrote: CC-BY is not per se compatible. We need (and I believe this is still the case with 4.0) explicit acknowledgement that the way that we provide attribution is OK and that we do not provide downstream attribution for individual sources.

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Updated geocoding community guideline proposal

2014-07-15 Thread Robert Whittaker (OSM lists)
On 11 July 2014 03:52, Alex Barth a...@mapbox.com wrote: I just updated the Wiki with a proposed community guideline on geocoding. Please review: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Open_Data_License/Geocoding_-_Guideline The whole point of the share-alike aspect of our licence is to stop

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Community Guidelines - Horizontal Cuts better text

2014-05-22 Thread Robert Whittaker (OSM lists)
On 21 May 2014 15:08, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: I like the message but I am not sure if it really works, license-wise. Suppose I have my own data set with restaurant POIs, A. Now I take an OSM database with restaurant POIs, B. Now I compute the difference, B-A - all

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] OpenData attributes from closed vector data

2014-03-12 Thread Robert Whittaker (OSM lists)
On 7 March 2014 22:40, Rob Nickerson rob.j.nicker...@gmail.com wrote: I have been provided (i) original vector data and (ii) a printed map leaflet both of which include attribute data about roads - for example, whether the road is lit. The owner of the attribute data (whether the road is lit)

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Licensing advice for a potential data source?

2014-01-21 Thread Robert Whittaker (OSM lists)
On 21 January 2014 18:18, Adam Williamson ad...@happyassassin.net wrote: Hi, folks! I'm a new OSM contributor in Vancouver, BC, Canada. I'm doing some manual, on-the-ground, local knowledge mapping, but I'm also looking for importable sources of important data types we're currently missing

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [Talk-GB] Using store locator as source

2013-09-17 Thread Robert Whittaker (OSM lists)
On 17 September 2013 08:38, OpenStreetmap HADW osmh...@gmail.com wrote: However, basic postcode centre locations are part of the OS OpenData releases. Unfortunately, CodePoint Open is the one dataset in the OS OpenData collection that hasn't been cleared for use in OSM. See

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Clarifying Geocoding and ODbL

2013-06-13 Thread Robert Whittaker (OSM lists)
On 13 June 2013 14:58, Olov McKie o...@mckie.se wrote: Manual geocoding A person using an OSM map to find the latitude and longitude coordinates associated with a point or an area, normally by clicking, drawing or similarly marking where that point or area is on a map. As an example, the

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Clarifying Geocoding and ODbL

2013-06-07 Thread Robert Whittaker (OSM lists)
On 7 June 2013 01:56, Alex Barth a...@mapbox.com wrote: With two State of the Map conferences coming up now and plenty of opportunities for face time, I'd like to restart our conversation around clarifying the ODbL's implications for geocoding and get to a result. Over here at MapBox we're

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Current status on UK Council footpath data

2013-06-06 Thread Robert Whittaker (OSM lists)
On 6 June 2013 08:11, Nick Whitelegg nick.whitel...@solent.ac.uk wrote: Just wondering what the current state of what we can do with the UK council footpath open data is? It will depend what data you are referring to. But the general rule will apply: you can only use data/information that is

[OSM-legal-talk] Content Licence for OSM Data

2013-03-12 Thread Robert Whittaker (OSM lists)
My understanding of the ODbL is that it covers an overall database, but not individual contents within it. So in order to use an ODbL database you also need a license (or other permission) to use the contents. Conversely, when offering a database to others under the ODbL, if you actually want them

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] tesco store location data

2012-11-09 Thread Robert Whittaker (OSM lists)
On 5 November 2012 17:56, Richard Fairhurst rich...@systemed.net wrote: Chris Hill wrote: So the answer, as always with this sort of question, is no we cannot use that data without written permission of the copyright holder to use this data in OSM for any purpose. I don't think that is likely