Re: [OSM-legal-talk] FYI Collective Database Guideline

2016-06-10 Thread Tom Lee
> This is a desirable goal but don't forget there is another side to > that - if i as an entrepreneur consider contributing to the OSM > database it could be important for me that my contributions cannot be > used by the competition against my interests. Share-alike might play a > significant

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] FYI Collective Database Guideline

2016-06-10 Thread Tobias Wendorff
Am Fr, 10.06.2016, 17:22 schrieb Simon Poole: > >> Would this make "my" data trigger share-alike? > The specific term simply says that when there is no references between > the datasets it is a Collective Database, or in other words that the > trivial case when there is no interaction is OK too.

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] FYI Collective Database Guideline

2016-06-10 Thread Simon Poole
Am 10.06.2016 um 16:25 schrieb Tobias Wendorff: > A question to "the non-OSM and OSM datasets do not reference each other": > > Let's say, I've added municipal road identification numbers to the OSM > database (not in my extract, but the "real" database). > > I later want to join other

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] FYI Collective Database Guideline

2016-06-10 Thread Tobias Wendorff
Am Do, 9.06.2016, 13:43 schrieb Simon Poole: > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Collective_Database_Guideline A question to "the non-OSM and OSM datasets do not reference each other": Let's say, I've added municipal road identification numbers to the OSM database (not in my extract, but the

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] FYI Collective Database Guideline

2016-06-10 Thread Christoph Hormann
On Thursday 09 June 2016, Simon Poole wrote: > > > > But we are happy with uses that invoke share-alike as well, aren't > > we? > > Basically the issue is that the guidelines are essentially "safe > harbour" statements, "we are ok if you do X", to provide a more > secure and stable environment for

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] FYI Collective Database Guideline

2016-06-09 Thread Simon Poole
Am 09.06.2016 um 17:40 schrieb Christoph Hormann: > On Thursday 09 June 2016, Simon Poole wrote: >> I can understand the desire for a negative example, but: >> >> - this is documentation of use that we are happy with, not of the >> opposite. > But we are happy with uses that invoke share-alike as

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] FYI Collective Database Guideline

2016-06-09 Thread Simon Poole
Am 09.06.2016 um 17:36 schrieb Simon Poole: > > Am 09.06.2016 um 17:06 schrieb Robert Whittaker (OSM lists): >> Also (and it may be deliberate) this guideline doesn't address the >> question of what filtering / querying you can do with your collective >> database. For instance, under the

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] FYI Collective Database Guideline

2016-06-09 Thread Christoph Hormann
On Thursday 09 June 2016, Simon Poole wrote: > I can understand the desire for a negative example, but: > > - this is documentation of use that we are happy with, not of the > opposite. But we are happy with uses that invoke share-alike as well, aren't we? > - as the preamble says there may be

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] FYI Collective Database Guideline

2016-06-09 Thread Simon Poole
Am 09.06.2016 um 17:06 schrieb Robert Whittaker (OSM lists): > > Also (and it may be deliberate) this guideline doesn't address the > question of what filtering / querying you can do with your collective > database. For instance, under the guideline I can take OSM restaurant > data, and add

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] FYI Collective Database Guideline

2016-06-09 Thread Robert Whittaker (OSM lists)
On 9 June 2016 at 13:08, Christoph Hormann wrote: > On Thursday 09 June 2016, Simon Poole wrote: >> >> The LWG has just forwarded the text of >> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Collective_Database_Guideline to >> the OSMF board for approval and publishing as definite

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] FYI Collective Database Guideline

2016-06-09 Thread Simon Poole
I can understand the desire for a negative example, but: - this is documentation of use that we are happy with, not of the opposite. - as the preamble says there may be other ODbL compliant ways that to not invoke share-alike to combine datasets outside of those detailed in the guideline. -

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] FYI Collective Database Guideline

2016-06-09 Thread Christoph Hormann
On Thursday 09 June 2016, Simon Poole wrote: > > The LWG has just forwarded the text of > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Collective_Database_Guideline to > the OSMF board for approval and publishing as definite guidance from > the OSMF. IIRC it was already noted by others that the lack of an

[OSM-legal-talk] FYI Collective Database Guideline

2016-06-09 Thread Simon Poole
FYI The LWG has just forwarded the text of http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Collective_Database_Guideline to the OSMF board for approval and publishing as definite guidance from the OSMF. Simon signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature