Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Using a WMS imagery with CC-BY4.0

2015-12-28 Thread Rob Myers
On 28/12/15 01:23 PM, Mike Linksvayer wrote: > > Perhaps continued copyleft fragmentation is even in the (near term > anyway) interest of OSM in order to encourage all others to use > maximally permissive licenses. This wouldn't help OSM due to the contributor agreement. - Rob.

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Using a WMS imagery with CC-BY4.0

2015-12-28 Thread Mike Linksvayer
Indeed, CC-BY-SA-4.0 data at best would be as useful as ODbL data to OSM under its current arrangements, ie not at all without agreement to contributor terms. Perhaps continued copyleft fragmentation is even in the (near term anyway) interest of OSM in order to encourage all others to use

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Using a WMS imagery with CC-BY4.0

2015-12-28 Thread Simon Poole
Am 28.12.2015 um 14:46 schrieb Simon Poole: > > that we other attribution in the contributor terms and on the other > That naturally should have been "that we offer attribution in the contributor terms ..." signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Using a WMS imagery with CC-BY4.0

2015-12-24 Thread Tom Lee
Another update: I still haven't heard anything from the academic affiliated with CC with whom I had met, so I have to assume she's no longer interested in this project. That's a shame, but I know that OKFN is amenable to examining the question of compatibility more closely. I'll continue to look

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Using a WMS imagery with CC-BY4.0

2015-12-24 Thread Simon Poole
Am 23.12.2015 um 23:58 schrieb Andrew Harvey: > I'm really keen on seeing this compatibility question resolved too. CC > BY is becoming the standard license for government geospatial data in > Australia, and it would be much simpler to interchange data both ways There might be a misunderstanding

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Using a WMS imagery with CC-BY4.0

2015-12-24 Thread Andrew Harvey
Sorry my mistake. Thanks for picking up on that. On 24/12/2015 9:01 pm, "Simon Poole" wrote: > Am 23.12.2015 um 23:58 schrieb Andrew Harvey: > > I'm really keen on seeing this compatibility question resolved too. CC > > BY is becoming the standard license for government

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Using a WMS imagery with CC-BY4.0

2015-10-07 Thread Simon Poole
Tom, any feedback yet? Simon Am 14.07.2015 um 16:22 schrieb Tom Lee: > I'll add that I've been in touch with CC's US affiliate and they've > expressed interest in resolving the compatibility question (either > with formal guidance that applies to 4.0 or in preparation for the > next license

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Using a WMS imagery with CC-BY4.0

2015-10-07 Thread Tom Lee
I appreciate the nudge--looks like my contact promised a check-in after a pending call with CC HQ, but that failed to materialize. I've emailed to follow up. Apologies, this dropped off my radar. On Wed, Oct 7, 2015 at 7:46 AM, Simon Poole wrote: > Tom, any feedback yet? > >

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Using a WMS imagery with CC-BY4.0

2015-07-13 Thread Simon Poole
In general the CC-by licences require downstream attribution that we can't provide for any sensible meaning of the word, so you will need specific permission in any case, the other part is that the 4.0 licences try to cater for sui generis databases and, IMHO-only, that comes out rather wrong.

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Using a WMS imagery with CC-BY4.0

2015-07-13 Thread Simon Poole
Ivan The problem is that it is a legal can of worms. I would suggest simply asking for explicit permission, or at least formal confirmation that tracing from the imagery does not create a derivative work and that the government has no rights in such vectorized data. It is, as you may have seen

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Using a WMS imagery with CC-BY4.0

2015-07-13 Thread Ivan Garcia
Hi Simon. Thanks for the answer. Just an extra quesiton, doesn't a CC-BY license already allows derivative work of any kind as long as the author is mentioned? Why would an extra permission for that be required? Best Regards. Ivan. On Mon, Jul 13, 2015 at 5:09 PM, Simon Poole si...@poole.ch

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Using a WMS imagery with CC-BY4.0

2015-07-13 Thread Ivan Garcia
Thanks a lot for the answer Simon, really complete. Ivan. On Mon, Jul 13, 2015 at 6:31 PM, Simon Poole si...@poole.ch wrote: In general the CC-by licences require downstream attribution that we can't provide for any sensible meaning of the word, so you will need specific permission in any

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Using a WMS imagery with CC-BY4.0

2015-07-13 Thread Paul Norman
On 7/13/2015 3:09 AM, Simon Poole wrote: It is, as you may have seen from previous discussions, not clear if the CC 4.0 licences are compatible (with the exception of CC0 naturally) with the ODbL and this is likely not an issue that will be resolved short term. To clarify a bit, any CC

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Using a WMS imagery with CC-BY4.0

2015-07-13 Thread Kate Chapman
Hi Ivan, I would suggest getting in touch with Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team Indonesia. They could probably help in facilitate of permission. team...@hotosm.org is the best way to reach them. Best, -Kate On Mon, Jul 13, 2015 at 7:34 AM, Ivan Garcia capisc...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks a lot

[OSM-legal-talk] Using a WMS imagery with CC-BY4.0

2015-07-08 Thread Ivan Garcia
Hi everybody, the government of Indonesia recently opened a Open Data portal http://data.go.id/ offering some official WMS imagery under CC-BY 4.0 license. Would that license be enought to be used under JOSM to trace ways and POIs for OSM? Thanks in advance. Ivan.