[Fedora-legal-list] Re: Questions about some things I'm doing for my SIG

[Abhiram Kuchibhotla]

live.fedoracommunity.org sounds great tbh. I don't have a problem using that at 
all.
And yes, I'll definitely get in touch with the design team to get help with our 
logo and branding.

Thank you all for your time :D
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[Fedora-legal-list] Re: Questions about some things I'm doing for my SIG

[Matthew Miller]

On Sun, Apr 15, 2018 at 12:27:41PM -0400, Neal Gompa wrote:
> > In general, a custom domain discouraged, as it can lead to all sorts of
> > problems. How about fedoralive.fedoracommunity.org?
> Is this the first time we've ever used *.fedoracommunity.org? I've
> never seen it used before...

There's plenty of "locale" domains, like
http://id.fedoracommunity.org/, but I don't know of cases where we've
used it for other things. The guidelines page clearly indicate that
that was the intention though.


> Also, if we're going to use that, probably live.fedoracommunity.org
> makes more sense.

Yeah.


> And we've previously done custom domains for stuff, for example:
> .net: fedoraloves.net
> Python: fedoralovespython.org

Yeah, I'm not particularly fond of these (although fedoraloves.net is
cute, even if the twisted use of .net kind of pains my 1990s sysadmin
heart).

> Get Fedora: getfedora.org (this one was actually a pretty painful change...)

Yeah, this wasn't really mean to be a _change_ but a focused "download
brochure" site.



> Custom domains are not specifically disallowed either, but a trademark
> license from Red Hat is required. Alternatively, Red Hat/Fedora could
> purchase the domain for the use.

Yes, that's all true.


> If it is possible, we should get fedorastreams.live and/or
> fedoralive.stream

If this is really going to help success, I won't -1 it, but there's a
little bit of a chicken and egg problem — if we do something like this,
I'd like it to be for something we feel pretty confident is going to be
around and self-sustaining in a year or two.


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Matthew Miller

Fedora Project Leader
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[Fedora-legal-list] Re: Questions about some things I'm doing for my SIG

[Neal Gompa]

On Sun, Apr 15, 2018 at 11:36 AM, Matthew Miller
 wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 13, 2018 at 05:08:04PM -, Abhiram Kuchibhotla wrote:
>> I have a few questions about some things I'm doing for the Fedora Live SIG 
>> that I started a week ago.
>> Firstly, are SIGs allowed to have their own branding?
>> The reason I'm asking this is that since this is a very livestream oriented 
>> SIG, am I allowed to provide a kit containing stream cards that would be 
>> shown from time to time. Another reason I'm asking this is that is it 
>> alright for me to use the fedora logo as shown in the image below:
>
> Yes, you absolutely can have your own branding.
>
> See the guidelines here
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Legal:Trademark_guidelines and in
> particular the usage guidelines for the logo at
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Legal:Trademark_guidelines.
>
> In general, the best approach is to work with the Design Team
> https://pagure.io/design to make sure the proposed logo works. This
> isn't meant to introduce bureaucracy but to make sure Fedora is
> represented well — not any comment on your proposed design, but we
> *have* in the past had examples which didn't get the colors right or
> been off-message in some way.
>
>> Secondly, what is the policy on domains? Am I allowed to register,
>> say, `fedoralive.streams` and then redirect it back to the SIG wiki
>> page to make it easier to publicize the SIG?
>
> That's also in the policy document linked above, at
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Legal:Trademark_guidelines#Domain_names,
> and also https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Local_community_domains
>
> In general, a custom domain discouraged, as it can lead to all sorts of
> problems. How about fedoralive.fedoracommunity.org?
>

Is this the first time we've ever used *.fedoracommunity.org? I've
never seen it used before...

Also, if we're going to use that, probably live.fedoracommunity.org
makes more sense.

And we've previously done custom domains for stuff, for example:
.net: fedoraloves.net
Python: fedoralovespython.org
Get Fedora: getfedora.org (this one was actually a pretty painful change...)

Custom domains are not specifically disallowed either, but a trademark
license from Red Hat is required. Alternatively, Red Hat/Fedora could
purchase the domain for the use.

If it is possible, we should get fedorastreams.live and/or fedoralive.stream

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[Fedora-legal-list] Re: Questions about some things I'm doing for my SIG

[Matthew Miller]

On Fri, Apr 13, 2018 at 05:08:04PM -, Abhiram Kuchibhotla wrote:
> I have a few questions about some things I'm doing for the Fedora Live SIG 
> that I started a week ago.
> Firstly, are SIGs allowed to have their own branding?
> The reason I'm asking this is that since this is a very livestream oriented 
> SIG, am I allowed to provide a kit containing stream cards that would be 
> shown from time to time. Another reason I'm asking this is that is it alright 
> for me to use the fedora logo as shown in the image below: 

Yes, you absolutely can have your own branding.

See the guidelines here
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Legal:Trademark_guidelines and in
particular the usage guidelines for the logo at
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Legal:Trademark_guidelines.

In general, the best approach is to work with the Design Team
https://pagure.io/design to make sure the proposed logo works. This
isn't meant to introduce bureaucracy but to make sure Fedora is
represented well — not any comment on your proposed design, but we
*have* in the past had examples which didn't get the colors right or
been off-message in some way.

> Secondly, what is the policy on domains? Am I allowed to register,
> say, `fedoralive.streams` and then redirect it back to the SIG wiki
> page to make it easier to publicize the SIG?

That's also in the policy document linked above, at
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Legal:Trademark_guidelines#Domain_names,
and also https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Local_community_domains

In general, a custom domain discouraged, as it can lead to all sorts of
problems. How about fedoralive.fedoracommunity.org?


-- 
Matthew Miller

Fedora Project Leader
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