Re: Leo in the wild

2013-10-21 Thread Zoom.Quiet
2013/10/21 Matt Wilkie map...@gmail.com: One of the more interesting sightings of Leo in the Wild I've come across: http://zoomquiet.org/ Though reading Chinese would be useful to uncover just how Leo is involved! (Zoom has participated on the list before, perhaps this mention will persuade

Re: This, and *only* this, can make Leo more popular

2013-10-21 Thread Jacob Peck
On 10/21/2013 12:42 AM, Matt Wilkie wrote: Highlighting some of the recent improvements with view-rendered and markdown would be useful for some of this crowd. I think it should be noted that markdown support is preliminary at best. I have a lot of work to do to promote it to the level of

Todo.py plugin changes pushed

2013-10-21 Thread Terry Brown
I've just pushed some changes to todo.py, nothing fundamental, but if these changes mess up anyone's workflow, let me know and I'll try and wrap them in @settings. - date selection - custom calendar widget which displays multiple months at a time. By default it shows the next three months,

Re: Todo.py plugin changes pushed

2013-10-21 Thread Edward K. Ream
On Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 9:01 AM, Terry Brown terry_n_br...@yahoo.comwrote: I've just pushed some changes to todo.py, Thanks for this work, Terry. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups leo-editor group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving

Re: This, and *only* this, can make Leo more popular

2013-10-21 Thread Edward K. Ream
On Sunday, October 20, 2013 1:51:14 PM UTC-5, stevelitt wrote: I think the first step in getting this kind of review is to get more fans who can write and who are listened to. To do that, you'd need to give them enough of a burning desire to spend a few days learning the ins and outs of

Please tell us: what are the benefits of Leo to *you*

2013-10-21 Thread Edward K. Ream
A few words, a few sentences, or a few paragraphs. Focus on benefits, not features, but it's ok to mention features. Thanks! Edward P.S. If you haven't done so recently, you might find Leo's quotes page inspiring: http://leoeditor.com/preliminaries.html#what-people-are-saying-about-leo EKR

Re: Please tell us: what are the benefits of Leo to *you*

2013-10-21 Thread Jacob Peck
Well, Leo's impact on my life since I found it in January has been substantial. Leo allows me to automate my life to a great extent. It is my to-do list, my personal assistant, my address book, my password log, my recipe archive, my rss feed reader (due to rss.py), and my favored editor. It

Re: This, and *only* this, can make Leo more popular

2013-10-21 Thread Steve Litt
On Mon, 21 Oct 2013 07:17:09 -0700 (PDT) Edward K. Ream edream...@gmail.com wrote: Exactly right. And that's what hooked me the instant I prototyped Leo using the MORE outliner! Not sure why you said you can specify a computer program as an outline like thing in an outliner like setting.

Re: Old Leo descriptions now in LeoDocs.leo

2013-10-21 Thread Edward K. Ream
On Sunday, October 20, 2013 5:37:15 PM UTC-5, Matt Wilkie wrote: I am not convinced that putting any of these on Leo's web site would make any substantial difference, but I am open to discussion. I think it's useful to [have] everything in the installed files somewhere on the website,

Re: leo on sourceforge

2013-10-21 Thread Edward K. Ream
On Sunday, October 20, 2013 6:54:14 PM UTC-5, Matt Wilkie wrote: Possible things for Leo's entry on Sourceforge: Add to Categories: Topic::Text Editors Topic::Text Editors::Text Processing Thanks for this suggestion. It will be done for b1. Edward -- You received this message

Re: Please tell us: what are the benefits of Leo to *you*

2013-10-21 Thread Jacob Peck
On 10/21/2013 11:57 AM, Edward K. Ream wrote: On Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 10:31 AM, Jacob Peck gatesph...@gmail.com mailto:gatesph...@gmail.com wrote: Well, Leo's impact on my life since I found it in January has been substantial. [Snip] Thanks Jake. I'll add these words to the

Re: This, and *only* this, can make Leo more popular

2013-10-21 Thread Edward K. Ream
On Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 10:32 AM, Steve Litt sl...@troubleshooters.comwrote: On Mon, 21 Oct 2013 07:17:09 -0700 (PDT) Edward K. Ream edream...@gmail.com wrote: Not sure why you said you can specify a computer program as an outline like thing in an outliner like setting. Why not just say,

Re: This, and *only* this, can make Leo more popular

2013-10-21 Thread Edward K. Ream
On Sun, Oct 20, 2013 at 2:00 PM, Fidel N fidelpe...@gmail.com wrote: Wow the three videos thing is a great idea, I also think that one could be very useful. But if no one is willing to make those, at least the website could include an in-website video to some of the already existing ones

Re: This, and *only* this, can make Leo more popular

2013-10-21 Thread Edward K. Ream
On Sun, Oct 20, 2013 at 2:07 PM, Fidel N fidelpe...@gmail.com wrote: Also, there is an interesting article on Sourceforge on how to increase a projects popularityhttp://sourceforge.net/blog/what-we-can-do-to-help-promote-your-project/ . [snip] Getting Leo on the Sourceforge mass monthly

Re: Please tell us: what are the benefits of Leo to *you*

2013-10-21 Thread Edward K. Ream
On Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 11:01 AM, Jacob Peck gatesph...@gmail.com wrote: Not that it's terribly important, but could I also be added to the list of plugin contributors? Sure, where is it ;-) Edward -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups leo-editor

Re: Please tell us: what are the benefits of Leo to *you*

2013-10-21 Thread Jacob Peck
On 10/21/2013 12:20 PM, Edward K. Ream wrote: On Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 11:01 AM, Jacob Peck gatesph...@gmail.com mailto:gatesph...@gmail.com wrote: Not that it's terribly important, but could I also be added to the list of plugin contributors? Sure, where is it ;-) Edward On that

Re: Leo in the wild

2013-10-21 Thread Edward K. Ream
On Monday, October 21, 2013 3:43:02 AM UTC-5, Zoom.Quiet wrote: 2013/10/21 Matt Wilkie map...@gmail.com javascript:: One of the more interesting sightings of Leo in the Wild I've come across: http://zoomquiet.org/ Though reading Chinese would be useful to uncover just how Leo is

Re: This, and *only* this, can make Leo more popular

2013-10-21 Thread Edward K. Ream
On Sun, Oct 20, 2013 at 2:51 PM, Steve Litt sl...@troubleshooters.comwrote: This is almost ready to be a Khan Academy lesson (and by the way, Khan Academy courses on Leo would be another excellent mindshare builder). I've made a note of this. Does anyone have instructions for

Re: On Leo Default Config

2013-10-21 Thread Don Dwiggins
On 10/18/13 7:42 AM, jkn wrote: For clarity, I might point out this corresponding action from Ecco Pro for getting items to the first child of a node I'd like to second jkn's wish. For reference, here's a brief intro I wrote up, describing Ecco's outlining behavior:

Re: Please tell us: what are the benefits of Leo to *you*

2013-10-21 Thread Edward K. Ream
On Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 11:27 AM, Jacob Peck gatesph...@gmail.com wrote: On that same page, further down under acknowledgements, I think. http://leoeditor.com/preliminaries.html#acknowledgements Done in LeoDocs.leo. I am going to separate the preliminaries pages again. This will allow sphinx

Re: On Leo Default Config

2013-10-21 Thread Edward K. Ream
On Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 11:50 AM, Don Dwiggins ddwigg...@advpubtech.comwrote: On 10/18/13 7:42 AM, jkn wrote: For clarity, I might point out this corresponding action from Ecco Pro for getting items to the first child of a node I'd like to second jkn's wish. Yes, this will happen, but not

Re: Please tell us: what are the benefits of Leo to *you*

2013-10-21 Thread Haroldo Stenger
hi Ed, the link to Joe Orr's tutorial page is broken. The wayback machine does not hold more than the index, because the links were POST http requests, so I'm afraid that tutorial is lost, unless someone has saved it and can share. I think that a broken link is bad for Leo. best regards, Haroldo

Re: This, and *only* this, can make Leo more popular

2013-10-21 Thread Haroldo Stenger
hi, 2013/10/20 Steve Litt sl...@troubleshooters.com On Sun, 20 Oct 2013 12:00:30 -0700 (PDT) Fidel N fidelpe...@gmail.com wrote: Wow the three videos thing is a great idea, I also think that one could be very useful. I fully agree. Nowadays, no matter how much effort one puts toward

Re: This, and *only* this, can make Leo more popular

2013-10-21 Thread Edward K. Ream
On Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 12:50 PM, Haroldo Stenger haroldo.sten...@gmail.com wrote: when one youtube's for Leo editor, there sh ould pop up more than 20 non-nonsense , to-the-point videos, but they are not there. The gut-level sensation that I get is: there are people benefit a lot for

Re: Please tell us: what are the benefits of Leo to *you*

2013-10-21 Thread Edward K. Ream
On Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 12:19 PM, Haroldo Stenger haroldo.sten...@gmail.com wrote: hi Ed, the link to Joe Orr's tutorial page is broken. I don't see this link at leoeditor.com. Are you looking at the correct home page? Edward -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the

Re: This, and *only* this, can make Leo more popular

2013-10-21 Thread Haroldo Stenger
hi Ed again, I know that you're after it, you've gone (alongside with the kind and thoughtful leo team) a long way, with a lot of effort, which is really joyful to know of, and in a minimal part on my own, to be a part of. Thanks you all. best Haroldo 2013/10/21 Edward K. Ream

Re: Please tell us: what are the benefits of Leo to *you*

2013-10-21 Thread Haroldo Stenger
hi Ed, Yes, see this page's part: http://leoeditor.com/preliminaries.html#acknowledgements There are two links, the second one being: http://www.evisa.com/e/sb.htm which renders Error 404 - Not Found It got offline a couple of years ago if I'm interpreting wayback machine's historical data.

Re: Please tell us: what are the benefits of Leo to *you*

2013-10-21 Thread Ville M. Vainio
- The outliner format helps me organise/reorganise my thoughts gradually, instead of putting everything in the right place from the beginning. I write a lot of body text with few headlines, and Leo's approach leaves lots of space for the body text and therefore suits my workflow. I find that I end

Re: Leo in the wild

2013-10-21 Thread Matt Wilkie
thank you for the extended description and links :) In the wild means something like beyond the village or outside walls of protected garden. On Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 1:43 AM, Zoom.Quiet zoom.qu...@gmail.com wrote: 2013/10/21 Matt Wilkie map...@gmail.com: One of the more interesting

Re: Leo in the wild

2013-10-21 Thread Edward K. Ream
On Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 3:43 AM, Zoom.Quiet zoom.qu...@gmail.com wrote: Please note Leo's new home address: http://leoeditor.com/ All links to http://webpages.charter.net are broken: in particular, the Leo link at the bottom of http://zoomquiet.org/ Edward -- You received this message because

Re: This, and *only* this, can make Leo more popular

2013-10-21 Thread Edward K. Ream
On Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 2:53 PM, Terry Brown terry_n_br...@yahoo.comwrote: I haven't contributed to this thread because I still struggle with a concise view of what Leo is. Sometimes I think of it as a multitool

Re: Please tell us: what are the benefits of Leo to *you*

2013-10-21 Thread Edward K. Ream
On Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 2:36 PM, Haroldo Stenger haroldo.sten...@gmail.comwrote: hi Ed, Yes, see this page's part: http://leoeditor.com/preliminaries.html#acknowledgements There are two links, the second one being: http://www.evisa.com/e/sb.htm which renders Error 404 - Not Found

Re: Please tell us: what are the benefits of Leo to *you*

2013-10-21 Thread Matt Wilkie
I found a working copy! http://screenbooks.net/e/sbooks/leo/ I've sent a message to Joe Orr asking if it's okay to mirror it. -matt On Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 10:19 AM, Haroldo Stenger haroldo.sten...@gmail.com wrote: hi Ed, the link to Joe Orr's tutorial page is broken. The wayback machine

Re: Please tell us: what are the benefits of Leo to *you*

2013-10-21 Thread Edward K. Ream
On Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 2:45 PM, Ville M. Vainio vivai...@gmail.com wrote: - The outliner format helps me organise/reorganise my thoughts gradually, instead of putting everything in the right place from the beginning. I write a lot of body text with few headlines, and Leo's approach leaves

Re: On Leo Default Config

2013-10-21 Thread jkn
Hi Edward On Monday, 21 October 2013 17:55:09 UTC+1, Edward K. Ream wrote: On Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 11:50 AM, Don Dwiggins ddwi...@advpubtech.comjavascript: wrote: On 10/18/13 7:42 AM, jkn wrote: For clarity, I might point out this corresponding action from Ecco Pro for getting items

Approaching Leo

2013-10-21 Thread Steve Litt
Hi all, I think this has some bearing on the recent discussion about increasing Leo's mindshare. Today I successfully completed Gatesphere's Leo Hello World, and you know what I discovered? Leo, as it's documented currently, is impenetrable to all but the most determined. Take a look at this:

Why is nobody on #leo?

2013-10-21 Thread Steve Litt
Hi all, There's a #leo IRC channel on FreeNode, devoted to Leo, but right now I (and Chanserve) are the only ones on it. For something as featureful as Leo, a well-attended IRC channel is a spectacular tool, if for no other reason than it has a lot less latency than a mailing list. When I have

Re: Why is nobody on #leo?

2013-10-21 Thread gatesphere
Good point. I think I'll start idling on there... --Jake (a.k.a. gatesphere) On 10/21/2013 8:08 PM, Steve Litt wrote: Hi all, There's a #leo IRC channel on FreeNode, devoted to Leo, but right now I (and Chanserve) are the only ones on it. For something as featureful as Leo, a well-attended

Re: Leo in the wild

2013-10-21 Thread Zoom.Quiet
2013/10/22 Edward K. Ream edream...@gmail.com: On Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 3:43 AM, Zoom.Quiet zoom.qu...@gmail.com wrote: Please note Leo's new home address: http://leoeditor.com/ All links to http://webpages.charter.net are broken: in particular, the Leo link at the bottom of

Re: Approaching Leo

2013-10-21 Thread gatesphere
On 10/21/2013 8:00 PM, Steve Litt wrote: Hi all, I think this has some bearing on the recent discussion about increasing Leo's mindshare. Today I successfully completed Gatesphere's Leo Hello World, and you know what I discovered? Leo, as it's documented currently, is impenetrable to all but

Re: Leo in the wild

2013-10-21 Thread gatesphere
On 10/21/2013 9:36 PM, Zoom.Quiet wrote: 2013/10/22 Edward K. Ream edream...@gmail.com: On Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 3:43 AM, Zoom.Quiet zoom.qu...@gmail.com wrote: Please note Leo's new home address: http://leoeditor.com/ All links to http://webpages.charter.net are broken: in particular, the

Re: Leo in the wild

2013-10-21 Thread Zoom.Quiet
2013/10/22 Edward K. Ream edream...@gmail.com: On Monday, October 21, 2013 3:43:02 AM UTC-5, Zoom.Quiet wrote: 2013/10/21 Matt Wilkie map...@gmail.com: One of the more interesting sightings of Leo in the Wild I've come across: http://zoomquiet.org/ Though reading Chinese would be

line-height CSS attribute

2013-10-21 Thread David McNab
Hi, I'm wanting to use Leo for writing university essays, reports, case studies etc. But to make this practical, when editing works of thousands of words, I really need to increase the line spacing to support easier reading and focus. I tried setting the line-height CSS attribute within the

nose and Leo : any success?

2013-10-21 Thread wgw
I am trying to get nose working in leo. Has anyone else had success? Here are my experiments. I saved this @shadow nodetest.py: import nose def addit(x,y): return x+y def test_evens(): for i in range(0, 5): yield check_it, i, 3 def check_it(x,y): assert x + x ==